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Sean Robinson wrote:

That’s pretty disgusting.

Crazy shit…this should sink Trump but it probably won’t. In short, Epstein wrote a letter to convicted pedo Larry Nassar, saying he and Trump are also pedos.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/23/epstein-files-larry-nassar-letter

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Todd

Atm I’m not that interested in Odyssey, I might go see it if it has glowing reviews. This teaser is underwhelming.

Ha yes I think you’re right about that. I’ve been thinking about getting a library card, for some reason I don’t even understand I never got a card from the local library.

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Dave

lorcan_nagle wrote:

Also James Ransome.  Apparently he hung himself at the weekend

Oh man, Ziggy Sobotka.

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Ben

And then what, go watch netflix? I’ve been checking out bluesky but for the moment the more interesting discourse is still on twitter. You just have to click the “following” tab after  you reload.

 

The worst brainrot out there I think is still tiktok.

Twitter automatically goes to the “for you” tab now, when you reload it. And the for you tab is giving me 50 % of Ruski propaganda and 50 % AI slop of cats driving cars.

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Christian

I think it’s interesting that Santaclaus (or the Sinterklaas we have in the Netherlands on the 5th of december) who is an archetype derived from the pagan deity Odin has a “naughty kids and nice kids” list. It’s similar to the God of the bible having a “list” of people who did bad things and who have to pay in hell. Sinterklaas always scared the crap out of me as a kid, I like the presents but this weird looking bearded old guy better keep his distance from me.

 

I think it’s an archetype of authoritarianism, or maybe what some people call patriarchy. Maybe you can also compare Santaclaus to the old tribal village chief who decided who is on the nice list and who is on the naughty list.

 

edit: oh and something interesting happened this year, in the run up to the Sinterklaas celebration here in the Netherlands we have a “sinterklaasjournaal” on tv for kids. They do funny stories about Sinterklaas for kids, his daily life etc. And this year in one of their items they – according to their critics – “gave away Sinterklaas’s secrets”, hinting that it might be mom and dad who bring the presents. It was mainly conservative people who were seething about this. Sinterklaas is like a fixed ritual and every deviation is heresy to them. Have to keep the kids afraid…

Al-x wrote:

dying Darkseid

Is he dying AGAIN!?!

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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20251217-us-congress-passes-defense-bill-defying-trump-anti-europe-rhetoric

 

This is somewhat encouraging; however it is also true that Europe should build a military that can crush Russia.

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Todd

I’ve got a number of books in Dutch that are translations from Latin, that were done by Flemish translators. It’s always noticeable. The vocabulary is slightly different, Belgians often use more words that are derived from French. For instance, Flemish people often use “plezant” meaning enjoyable or pleasurable, where Dutch people would use “leuk” or “vermakelijk”. And the word order is different sometimes than the way a Dutch speaker would express things.

Really if I’m looking at the world as it is right now, honestly, Europe is fucked. We don’t have what it takes to save ourselves. We’re really dumb. Our right wing is pants on head stupid and the left just can’t be fucking normal if their life depended on it.

 

If we’re serious about saving democracy, we shoud just give nukes to Poland and Germany and South Korea and Taiwan and Japan.

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Uncle Retrospective, Todd

A fusion physicist was killed in his home. Kind of odd. There are a lot of developments crrently around fusion. So I guess a lot of money is involved.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/dec/17/mit-shooting-death-nuno-loureiro

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njerry wrote:

And of course our classy leader responds to this tragedy with his usual flair:

TRUMP HITS A NEW LOW IN ASS-HOLERY

Yes, that is very disturbing. Increasingly people take joy in sadistic pleasures. It’s not just Trump, there is a lot of this kind of cruelty.

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Dave wrote:

Rob Reiner and his wife have died, in an apparent homicide. Very sad news.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/dec/15/rob-reiner-director-harry-met-sally-found-dead-with-wife-michele-singer-reiner

Damn…

 

I remember him mostly because he was hilarious in one Curb your Enthusiasm episode.

 

RIP

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Todd

Outrageous to see some politicians saying people protesting against Israel carry some blame for the attack in Australia. Fuck them.

 

Israel is still killing people in Gaza after the “ceasefire”.

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Ben wrote:

You do see what’s going on in the US currently?

Winter, measles, flu, falling use of vaccines, and in the last few hours, the politicians voted to let the health insurance subsidies expire which will send health costs soaring for millions. And that’s on top of the ongoing cost of living crisis. A pandemic isn’t needed to kill people, especially when RFK Jr is running the health department.

And yet, amid all of this, older voters, who will be more impacted by it, declare they will keep voting for the arsonists while complaining about the fire.

It’s going to be nasty.

You are right, it could have an effect on the voting outcome, but then the excess death rate would have to be similar as it was during the period of covid, between now and october 2026. Like 600,000 more elderly people dying than normal, and most of those Republicans. (This was approximately the yearly excess death number in 2020 and 2021, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.05.24303783v1.full?)

 

The health situation is pretty bad in the US I think, and it could get worse, which is terrible, but I am not convinced it will significantly impact the voting result. But there is a possibility that it will of course.

 

 

Chimay makes excellent beer but their cheese is also outstanding:

 

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Well I don’t think it is very likely we’ll have a new pandemic that will wipe out elderly voters before the midterms but you never know. We’ll see I guess

Ben wrote:

Only so long as they’re alive and RFK Jr is doing his best to kill them. Not directly of course, but insurance up, vaccines restricted, winter time, new viruses on the prowl.

 

That’s like the Downfall meme…”That’s alright, the older voters will die off before they next election because they’re not vaxxed…”

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/heading-into-midterms-republicans-hold-edge-with-older-voters-reutersipsos-poll-2025-12-11/

 

This is a problem. The dems really need to get something going.

 

I bet Trump is going to campaign for the midterms. And the dems don’t really have a central figure to rally arond. Like figures that can unite the party and deliver an inspiring message.

True, but it does say something. Yuros often look down on Americans for reasons that make no sense. (Or just isn’t true)

 

A reporter I used to respect went on a rant against the US on a podcast I listened to, basically saying they are dumb. He said Europeans read way more books, for instance. I checked this on chatgpt and it is actually the opposite, Americans read more books.

lorcan_nagle wrote:

Christian pride is a contradictio in terminis…

Eh I’m certainly in favor of punishing all the evildoers, but that is not the whole church. Getting rid of the whole church is definitely a bit too far for me.

 

It’s better to get rid of the bad parts and keep the good. Outlawing the whole thing is a bit Stalinist.

Do you think pope Francis in the recent past and currently pope Leo still shielded child abusers? Googling that stuff and using chatgpt gives me results on that that are inconclusive. Also you have to distinguish poor judgment from active shielding of abusers.

 

I think it is all pretty complicated and not as black and white as it seems.

 

I think you can push for reforms, but you can’t get rid of the church altogether. There is freedom of religion and a religion needs its priests, bishops, monks, scholars, people who take care of the buildings and church property etc

 

 

Chatgpt is telling me there is no pope Leo and the current pope is Francis…

 

I think in the end outlawing the church just isn’t the answer. I doubt that the case can be made that the church as a whole is a criminal organization. There are bad elements and that’s what you have to go after.

 

I read a bit about the culture of tolerance for child sexual abuse that existed for a long time in countries like France. Like there were writers that openly boasted about having sex with children and people didn’t care. I think “abolishing the church” is like saying we are going to get rid of France.

Well the Christian faith seems to flourish under persecution.

I want religious institutions to reflect on things they may have done wrong, but getting rid of them altogether would definitely impoverish society. I think these beliefs enrich us.

I agree it could be good to get them out of things like owning hospitals and running schools. (Not getting rid of religious schools, I mean there can be Catholic schools, Islamic schools etc but I think it is better if they are run as independent organizations)

Catholicism is a major cultural current in Europe and the world and I don’t want to see it go, I think they do many good things. Of course you can’t really get rid of the catholic church, we have freedom of religion.

 

That said, there are crimes which seem to have been tolerated to some degree by the leadership of the church and they have to answer for that. To some extent the church (and other religious groups, Buddhists, Jews and Muslims have the same problems) reflected the ignorance of the time and they have to reflect on that.

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Dan, Todd

Dan wrote:

Arjan Dirkse wrote:

Map of psychopaths in Europe:

 

I have… questions.

It’s bike lanes…

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-catholic-bishops-condemn-trump-administrations-immigration-enforcement-2025-11-14/

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Todd

Map of psychopaths in Europe:

 

lorcan_nagle wrote:

Spain, Netherlands, Slovenia and Ireland have all pulled out of Eurovision

Nedertwitter thinks this is the end of the world.

Next week 14 degrees. I’m not complaining, that’s the ideal temperature. But for december that’s superhot.

I think there is some kind of doublethink regarding refugees dying, Palestinians being killed etc. In a sort of official way, people tell themselves they believe all people to be equal. But when Palestinians do bad things, killing their babies is OK. Human rights get lip service, but in real life they’re often not pursued.

 

(The reverse is also true, some Palestinians and pro-Palestinian people think killing Israeli babies is OK because Israelis do bad things. That’s equally abhorrent. War is always awful but killing innocents and collective punishment has to be avoided as much as possible)

Yeah I probably should stop following Russia news so much. It is scaring me. I know it’s a lot of bluffing and mind games, but it just becomes a heavy weight on my mind after reading articles about it.

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I believe that if you don’t have a lot of money, getting some money is a pretty thoughtful present. Better than some toy or a dvd boxset

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Honestly at the moment I’m feeling pretty negative about the whole Russia situation. Maybe it’s time to get a bottle of vodka ready in case the Russkis overrun Europe.

 

Really it’s been quite a disaster. Europe is a cursed continent and our history could end here.

It’s very troubling and I’ve been naive thinking there are not that many people who think that way.

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Megyn Kelly on alleged war crimes: "I really do kind of not only wanna see them killed in the water, whether they're on the boat or in the water, but I'd really like to see them suffer. I would like Trump and Hegseth to make it last a long time so they lose a limb and bleed out." pic.twitter.com/yvIWczKS5L

— Republican Accountability (@AccountableGOP) December 2, 2025

 

This is an example of that dehumanization. Just totally bloodthirsty. I’m sure some Europeans think this way about some of the refugees that die at sea though.

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The thing that struc me in what Klein said is that there is no place for “useless people” in the Musk-Trump-Putin NWO. People have to be good obedient little workers for them, the people they don’t like get shipped to concentration camps in El Salvador. With AI we could see many people becoming “useless”, but I don’t think they’ll give them UBI.

 

There’s something very dark growing. Like I mentioned Naomi Wolf who is one of the craziest people on twitter. She is now retweeting nazi accounts that call for the remigration of 100 million people from the US. Now I think endless migration streams are a big problem, but we have to make an effort at least to treat people humanely. There is a lot of dehumanization happening on social media.

 

It does give me hope that Trump’s approval rating is dropping. I don’t think the inhuman agenda is very popular.

I checked and there is no Dutch transation available for the Shock Doctrine. English books take a long time to order for the local bookstore for some reason. It takes like 3 weeks. Amazon is faster but I don’t like using them.

 

I should get a library subscription. For some reason I never got one.

 

 

Sun Kyeong is a wacky but insidious cult from South Korea that has enchanted a bunch of Dutch celebrities. They’re a bit like Scientology but with an East Asian/Buddhist/Taoist bent, asking exorbitant sums of money for healings. They also worship a “Mother Goddess” who is a regular living South Korean woman. Unsurprisingly a lot of the money end up with the Mother Goddess.

I didn’t read any books by her, just some articles online…I like some of her insights.

Naomi Klein* talks about Trump, Putin, Orban, Bannon, Musk, Thiel etc representing “end times fascism”. Maybe a hyperbolic term, but there is some truth to this. They see a future of climate change, scarcity, and growing inequality, and instead of trying to fix it, they break down democracy and build fortresses for themselves to stay safe when the angry masses come for them.

 

*not to be confused with Naomi Wolf who used to be an advisor to Clinton and is now batshit crazy

Trump’s approval rating keeps dropping, it is something like 38 % now which is even lower than in his first term. A good sign I guess. But as support falls away he might do some crazy things.

 

(I mean even crazier than what he has already done)

When I was 18 conscription was scaled down so I never went. If I had been selected at the time I probably would have chosen civil service because I definitely wasn’t very military minded at the time.

Honestly I don’t have a huge problem with conscription as long as there is an out for conscientious objectors, who can do non-combative service, like working as a nurse or something like that. I don’t think it is bad for a country to require people to do some service like that.

Christian wrote:

Arjan Dirkse wrote:

Interesting. Germany tries to build up its military but people are so brainwashed to think “military = bad” that they refuse.

Weeeeeeeeell, this is an opionion piece and what Sanyal fails to mention is that actually 2/3rds in Germans are in favour of reinstating military service. Yes, the young people who actually have to do this service are mostly against it, but German politicians have really created an absolute communications disaster around it. Articles like Sanyal’s aren’t helping because it suggests that youths drawn into military service will be sent to Ukraine to die, which is just complete nonsense.

If German wants a military that would be able to defend itself in case of an actual war, there’s probably no way around a general military service. BUT as before (we had this until 2011), it’d be possible to serve in civil service instead, as quite a lot of us did. AND as before, in military actions outside of Germany, only professional soliders will be sent, never those who are doing their mandatory service year.

The real reason this is being discussed so hotly is that the politicians have failed to make those points clear to young people, and that the CDU fucked up in not just supporting the Defence minister’s original proposal in which they’d first try and get as many voluntary conscriptions as possible – at a time when the military isn’t equipped to deal with a sudden influx of military service year members anyway, which is where the whole lottery nonsense comes from.

Fair enough, thanks for the explanation.

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A right wing party in Romania called Pace stole the logo of Polish right wingers Konfederacja, and didn’t realize the outline of the logo was based on Poland’s borders.

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/28/germany-war-army-national-service-citizens-ukraine-europe

 

Interesting. Germany tries to build up its military but people are so brainwashed to think “military = bad” that they refuse.

 

It’s a bit similar in the Netherlands I think. People often just refuse to acknowledge Russia is an enemy. Those drones that were spotted in Western Europe recenty, some people just refuse to think they are real and call it all fake news.

We’ve got a “radical left” youtuber in the Netherlands called left laser who is drawing a lot of views, like 80K per video (well for a Dutch channel that is a lot of views). He has made some interesting videos in the past but he’s spouting Russian propaganda now, bashing NATO, saying both Ukraine and Russia are bad etc.

Watched some stuff about 764, and the researcher said this movement grew during the covid lockdown. When people were locked up in their homes, and cut off from their social contacts, glued to the internet for interaction.

About Marjorie Taylor Greene, I think her current actions are in part because of her antisemitism. Her crowd of Jew hating supporters are obviously very much anti-Israel, and Trump strongly supports Israel, so that is a reason to create distance between herself and Trump. Also the Epstein thing involves a number of Jews, so her supporters have turned against Trump for hiding the “files”.

 

(Just to make myself clear, I don’t think it is bad to be against Israel, but MTG supporters are not against Israel for the right reason – the war crimes – but because they are Jews.)

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Uncle Retrospective

There is a wine company in Spain in the region of Valencia called Neleman that is led by a couple of Dutch people. They make good organic wines for a very good price, the supermarket here sells their tempranillo and their garnacha for about 7 euros.

 

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I think Mamdani could be great, but he will have to prove that by achieving results.

 

It’s a shame he can’t run for president though as he was born in Uganda. As a mayor his influence will not be that big, but he could be a good campaigner for other candidates.

Honestly at this point in time, both the left that we have and the right that we have suck balls. Their agenda, on both sides, is just ever increasing control and enslavement of the cattle. You see this in the UK with the digital ID. And the right of course has Palantir and all that crap. It is just ever increasing surveillance and humiliation rituals.

 

In the long run, only a strictly anti-authoritarian, and humanistic agenda will bring improvement to out lives.

It s tough to predict how much of MAGA or this type of radical right direction will remain if Trump is gone. If MTG were the one to lead it, I think it might become too unpopular to win elections. But I’m not sure of that.

 

Vance is difficult to see what he is about. He could be playing the long game, like I think Pence was doing, pretend to get along with Trump, but then when he is gone try to steer the Republicans back to “normality”. It looks like Vance is trying to maintain some kind of balance between the different factions that inform the Republican mindset, the tech oligarchs, the postliberals, the Christian nationalists, and the groypers.

Man the last few days were really unpleasant. Very cold for Novembers, only 2 degrees celsius, sleet, and a strong wind. Today it feels nicer.

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Todd wrote:

Who do they have? JD Vance? MTG? Mike Johnson?

The democrats have a high likelihood of picking a candidate so shitty he or she will lose to JD Vance.

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Uncle Retrospective

Mamdani seems to be having a great time with Trump. Weird. But it could be good.

Curaçao qualified for the football world cup. The smallest country to ever do.

 

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I have this fear that they’re going to try to release the “Epstein files” with all the Republican names scrubbed…

There is a weird contradiction in stoicism…a good person should only focus on their own choices and not be perturbed by suffering that is inflicted on him by external forces…stoics like Marcus Aurelius are so extreme in this regard that they say it isn’t an evil thing to be hurt by evil actions from a tyrant. But when you take that position, how can you still claim that ruling like a tyrant and oppressing people is wrong? After all they’re not really hurting people by this. It seems like a permit for tyrants to do whatever they please.

Also “the Catholic League” is a bullshit group, led by a crazy right winger named Bill Donahue, that doesn’t really have anything to do with mainstream cathlicism. I think this guy used to have debates with people like Christopher Hitchens. He’s been around for a long time.

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Everything below the age of consent is simply wrong for an adult and arguing it’s not “pedophilia” but “hebephilia” or whatever is stupid. It is still the same fact, no matter what term you use for it.

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Ben

The Catholic League agrees with Megyn Kelly that Jeffrey Epstein was not a pedophile…jesus christ these people…it’s just beyond parody.

 

MEGYN KELLY IS RIGHT ABOUT EPSTEIN

I noticed in some youtube videos Americans from the Appalachians have trouble pronouncing the letter L at the end of a word. Like “roll” sounds more like row. That’s similar to how Polish make the L sound like a w.

Apparently Epstein had a meeting with the Macron government in 2019.

 

This is some interesting speculation but I disagree with the conclusion. It is about a Russian book called Project Russia, which alleges Russia is waging some kind of spiritual warfare against Western degeneracy and democracy, which it sees as immoral. But Russia just uses this veneer of religiosity for propaganda, it doesn’t really have these high flying ideals.

 

The Wide Angle: “Project Russia,” Unknown in the West, Reveals Putin’s Playbook

Noam Chomsky wrote this letter of recommendation for his “highy valued friend” Jeffrey Epstein even after his conviction.

 

Here's some kind of letter of recommendation that Noam Chomsky wrote for his "highly valued friend" Jeffrey Epstein. pic.twitter.com/t73oxMcXte

— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) November 14, 2025

This Epstein email leak is 20,000 files. Someone needs to read through all this crap and give the info that is the most incriminating.

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Fetterman wears a hoodie to pretend he is one of the regular folks and people fell for it.

Frankly on a geopolitical level or even European level the Netherlands is an absolute non-player. We have no military or any cards to play, just a little US vassal state. I think all of Europe atm depends on France and Germany. The French centrists could lose the election to Bardella. And then Bardella could get friendlier with Putin. Germany of course depends on wether CDU would be willing to form a coalition with AfD or condone an AfD government. And then the EU will be definitively over. We’ll be part of a new continuum, led by Russia.

Honestly I think there is something broken in Dutch politics. It doesn’t work anymore.

 

The documentary I mentioned about Israel which I saw a while back reminded me of this country, how Wilders’s voters are absolutely mindfucked boomers. And VVD to a lesser extent are the same. Those two could really fuck things up. We could become Hungary I think. Dysfunctional propagandized shithole.

 

The thing is people associate the Netherlands with Amsterdam which is a woke melting pot but the rest of the country is pretty conservative. And those conservatives have lost their minds, frankly. Like Wilders still calls himself a “liberal” but he wants to outlaw freedom of religion. It’s pure madness. As a country we’re borderline schizophrenic and getting worse.

I just saw a documentary on Dutch tv about a little village in Israel on the border with Gaza. Crazy crazy place. There are a lot of foreigners there who come to support the Israelis in several ways, and disaster tourists who come to hear the bombs falling in Gaza. Israel brings influencers from all over the world there to do their propaganda.

 

I have to say it really touched me. The level of craziness is so shocking.

It also typifies the general insanity of the Wilders voters in the Netherlands and the protestant SGP voters who are so pro-Israel that they routinely lie to themselves about anything in the media they see as anti-Israeli propaganda. It’s all quite Orwellian.

The maddening puzzle of trying to form a coalition has begun and the right wing liberal VVD has said they don’t want to govern together with Labor. One of the possible coalitions is D66-VVD-CDA-Labor but that seems out of the window now. So it will probably be more right wing, without Labor. Another possible coalition is D66-VVD-JA21-CDA. JA21 is pretty right wing but not really crazy like PVV or FvD.

 

A coalition over left is impossible. It would have to include Christian democratic CDA which absolutely rules out a coalition with the small left wing parties which would be in such a coalition.

Eh we’ll see with the primaries I guess. Right now Harris seems to be in the lead. That’s bad. I don’t think she can win.

Compared to president Lindell?

Well you need someone who can convince the independent voters in Ohio and Wisconsin to vote for him or her. They voted for Obama and even Biden.

 

 

I think Newsome actually has a chance to win. If you’re just going for an ideologically pure candidate, I doubt you’ll end up a winner. You’ll have president Carlson and vice president Taylor-Greene in 2028.

I don’t know…would that imply more people died from covid here than in other countries? Most statistics I’ve seen says we were somewhere in the middle with that compared to other EU countries. Some did better, some did worse.

The Netherlands is the only EU country where life expectancy decreased from 2019-2024

 

Hideous massacres in Sudan right now. It’s time the world paid more attention to this conflict.

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garjones wrote:

By her own account in her book he didn’t exert any force

OK, I got that wrong then. I thought it was a non-consensual thing.

 

I agree it is tough to find a crime under British law then. It is still odd though, the way he is being ejected from the royal family if there is no real crime. Maybe there is more to all this.

Interesting that prince Andrew apparently has to give up the title of prince now, yet it seems there is no police investigation against him.

 

 

Hertog Jan makes a good Pilsener beer. I think it’s one of the best in the Netherlands, together with Grolsch. Grolsch is a bit sweeter and Hertog Jan is maltier and darker. Gulpener is also good.

 

Heineken and Amstel are not bad, you know what you’re getting, but I would prefer some of the others.

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Ben wrote:

Exactly, there is bad and there is worse, no social media platform is good. X is in the worse category due to Musk. But the others also polish Trump’s nuts.

Back to Dutch politics, this was an interesting read:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/02/dutch-voters-positivity-liberals-patriotism-d66-netherlands-election

I have some problems with D66, theyre into things like digital surveillance a bit too much for my liking, but they’re not bad. They have some smart people in the party.

Someone on twitter made the point that all the main platforms are controlled by right wing billionaires. Bezos (who owns Washington Post) and Zuckerberg seem to have switched to supporting Trump. It’s all quite concerning.

I don’t have threads because for some reason my meta accounts always get banned, but apparently on threads things are even worse than twitter. People there are now yelling that the Dutch elections were a fraud.

https://www.euronews.com/green/2025/10/30/spanish-photographer-captures-worlds-first-ever-white-iberian-lynx-on-camera

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It’s funny that people like Wilders who are yelling about “saving our culture” don’t have the slightest clue what our culture really is or how it could be saved. He is a vulgarian, a small minded person for whom culture is summed up in nice pictures of tulips and windmills.

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