Star Wars Thread

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As part of the testing process I thought I’d kick off the traditional Star Wars thread.

The Obi-Wan Kenobi series with Ewan McGregor has been confirmed for Disney+ to begin shooting next year.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/23/20830478/obi-wan-kenobi-standalone-spinoff-series-disney-plus-series-ewan-mcgregor-streaming-star-wars

There’s also been new footage previewed from Rise Of Skywalker, although it’s not online

https://io9.gizmodo.com/new-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-footage-featured-r-1837449069

Sounds like it could be interesting.

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RonnieM wrote:

It’s not Disney I’m worried about but those poor theater employees who are just getting a fraction of that pittance you paid for tickets.

Clearly better for them to have a minimum wage job than everyone cleans their own stuff and they get let go. I bet you are a big fan of self-service checkouts putting people out of work too.

garjones wrote:

Clearly better for them to have a minimum wage job than everyone cleans their own stuff and they get let go. I bet you are a big fan of self-service checkouts putting people out of work too.

I’m more of a “wipe your own ass” kind of guy or do you have someone do that for you too?

More seriously, it sounds a bit like moaning about no longer having chimney sweeps, milk men or other jobs that have moved on.  We still have both self check out and teller check out side by side in the US.

Use of milk men has increased recently in the UK. It’s a greener option as they use reusable glass bottles instead of plastic.

We’ve joked about this a lot of times but really it’s all just what is expected, they don’t even provide any bins for you to use. You are supposed to leave your used cups and cartons behind and they quickly sweep the auditorium in much the same way as they do when turning around an aeroplane between flights. If it was the cultural norm for them to provide somewhere to dispose of your stuff I’d do that.

I know that answer’s not quite as much fun though.

 

It’s more efficient anyway. If they did provide bins, there would still be some lazy oiks who wouldn’t use them, so the staff would still have to check the whole auditorium for stuff chucked on the floor. So if they’re going to do that anyway, they may as well save the effort of putting bins out.

Most grocery stores here in the US offer online ordering where you can have curbside pickup (you drive to the store and they load it into your car) or home delivery.

What about grocery stores on Coruscant?

Well, with just a week to go until the new Star Wars movie it’s great that everyone is so excited about it that they can’t stop talking about how to dispose of rubbish and methods of grocery delivery.

Dave wrote:

Well, with just a week to go until the new Star Wars movie it’s great that everyone is so excited about it that they can’t stop talking about how to dispose of rubbish and methods of grocery delivery.

Look, they have to top the iron scene in Last Jedi somehow

Well, this is weird.

Burger King is using Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker spoilers to sell Whoppers

If you say these Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker spoilers out loud, Burger King will give you a free Whopper.

There seems to be some confusion over this, but some people think these are actually genuine spoilers. Baffling.

They released a new trailer that was considerably less cautious than the previous ones.

Does it work? Hard to say. Certainly changes the picture in some respects.

Ben wrote:

They released a new trailer that was considerably less cautious than the previous ones.

Does it work? Hard to say. Certainly changes the picture in some respects.

Links or it doesn’t exist.

https://youtu.be/UGTEylnSwQs

I’m going to see it if only for evil Threepio. Even if they stole it from auralnauts.

 

edit: not a spoiler btw, it was just some theory based on him having red eyes in a trailer

 

 

It’s an easy YouTube search you lazy git.

More seriously, the reason I didn’t link it here is it does drop a rather significant plot bomb and I don’t know what the spoiler rule is for RoS.  Time to start a dedicated thread for it, a large The Mandalorian?

I’m disappointed my derailment didn’t last long, even more so that people discussed milkmen without posting the GIF! I really have to figure out image posting from my phone on this site.

Ronnie would sign up straight away if they brought in blue milk delivery.

One topic that has come up recently is the Mandalorian and Disney+ effect on the box office for Ep IX.

Hadn’t really thought much of it, but Disney+ launches here 31 March, likely cost is £6-8 per month.  Add in the near-certainty that Disney will place Ep IX on their streaming portal, possibly exclusively, in 3-4 months time and what reason do I have to pay at least double to see it on the big screen now?  I know lots of people will do that anyway, but it’s an interesting example of how streaming can change the approach to media.

If they mimic the standard one-month-free trial model, it’d be possible, with the right timing, to perhaps see both Ep IX and Mandalorian S1 for ‘free’ !

lorcan_nagle wrote:

What about grocery stores on Coruscant?

Since Coruscant is like Manhattan on a planet-wide scale, they probably don’t have grocery stores. People would probably shop in billions of little bodegas on every corner.

I imagine a Rodian running a little hole-in-the-wall shop stacked with Oreos, Ramen noodles, cigarettes, phone chargers, and Goya beans, while a Kowakian monkey-lizard sleeps on a stack on newspapers.

It’s a planet wide society. They get their groceries delivered.

Interesting.  I wonder if not releasing the original theatrical cut of the Original Trilogy was a stipulation Lucas left in the sale or something to do with the Fox distribution rights.  I wonder if the THX cut would qualify.  That’s the one I would prefer.

They also mention it being available on 20 year old DVD sets.  Was the theatrical cut ever released on DVD?

https://www.newsarama.com/48280-j-j-abrams-wants-disney-to-release-the-undoctored-original-star-wars-trilogy-but-disney-won-t-budge.html

 

RonnieM wrote:

I wonder if not releasing the original theatrical cut of the Original Trilogy was a stipulation Lucas left in the sale or something to do with the Fox distribution rights. I wonder if the THX cut would qualify. That’s the one I would prefer. They also mention it being available on 20 year old DVD sets. Was the theatrical cut ever released on DVD?

Yes, but as a fuck-you-pan-and-scan-4:3 format.  If you want widescreen, then its unofficial laserdisc bootlegs.

When it comes down to the whole versions of SW issue, Lucas was a damn idiot.  He could have done a Ridley Scott, issued a set with multiple versions and gone: ‘I know which ones my favourite, but fine off you go’, but no.

He even took it so far as to add one last fuck you ‘noooo’ to Jedi for the Blu-Rays – and given how great that scene is, there’s no way it can be anything other than cultural vandalism – and now, very recently, there has been the 4k Maclunky cut of the Han-Greedo shoot-out.

Ben wrote:

RonnieM wrote: I wonder if not releasing the original theatrical cut of the Original Trilogy was a stipulation Lucas left in the sale or something to do with the Fox distribution rights. I wonder if the THX cut would qualify. That’s the one I would prefer. They also mention it being available on 20 year old DVD sets. Was the theatrical cut ever released on DVD?

 

Yes, but as a fuck-you-pan-and-scan-4:3 format. If you want widescreen, then its unofficial laserdisc bootlegs.

The unaltered trilogy was released to DVD only once, in 2006 as supplemental discs to the “Limited Edition” editions of the OT. It was in widescreen, but it was just a straight pull from the old laserdisc transfer and wasn’t enhanced for 16:9 screens. It was only a marginal upgrade from VHS, and wasn’t remastered in any way from the 1995 laserdiscs.

Each of these DVDs is a two disc set; the first disc is the exact same movie disc from the 2004 boxed set, and the second disc is the non-Special Edition version of the film.

 

Behind-The-Scenes Star Wars Facts For Those Cantina Friends

The despecialized  2.0 OT the only way I watch it now. Though I’ve heard there’s a 4K version in the works.

I have some version of Harmy’s Despecialized versions of the OT in 720p that I have a USB stick I can play through my blu-ray player, and that’s good enough for me. I might seek out better versions in the future, but I don’t really mind the more lofi versions of these decades old films.

That said, the OT (and even PT) absolutely deserve definitive blu-ray/4K special edition releases with all of the available deleted scenes and previously-released documentary material, but I’m not holding my breath that Disney/Lucasfilm will make them.

 

 

Jason wrote:

Each of these DVDs is a two disc set; the first disc is the exact same movie disc from the 2004 boxed set, and the second disc is the non-Special Edition version of the film.

How many people threw out the first disc and only ever watched the second?

Joe Williams joined Toto in 1986, so technically the man who wrote the Return of the Jedi songs wasn’t Toto’s lead singer :P

10 Subtle ‘Star Wars’ Acting Moments You May Have Overlooked

<p style=”text-align: left;”>I do hope that number one is “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!”</p>

Todd wrote:

10 Subtle ‘Star Wars’ Acting Moments You May Have Overlooked

I suppose those must all have happened while Lucas was occupied doing something else.

saga wrote:

“NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!”<

<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; color: #000000; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px;”>Crazy Rich Asians director Jon M. Chu is squarely in Rose Tico’s corner. Chu has taken to social media to urge Disney+ to make a Star Wars series revolving around Resistance member Rose Tico, played by Kelly Marie Tran in the Star Wars films The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 1rem; color: #000000; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px;”>“Ok @disneyplus. Put me in coach. Let’s make this series happen. #RoseTicoDeservedBetter @starwars,” Chu tweeted Friday.</p>
Jon M. Chu Lobbies For Disney+ ‘Star Wars’ Series For Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico

I don’t think a Rose Tico series will happen, but Tran is a very good actor and I’d like to see her career benefit more form being in these films.

Well since she’s probably the only one interested in there being a Rose Tico anything at all, that’s probably not gonna happen xD

The tweet has 10,700 likes and counting, so it’s not like no-one is interested.

But a tweet is not a pitch.

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-future-of-star-wars-movies-project-luminosity/

A new rumor from Making Star Wars (which has been pretty reliable with Star Wars scoops in the past) says the next Star Wars saga will take place during an era being referred to as “The High Republic Era.” Similar to previous rumors about the project Benioff and Weiss were working on, this new series will take place 400 years before The Skywalker Saga. But unlike the saga that just wrapped up, we won’t be looking at a new trilogy.

This new Star Wars saga will be made up of a series of films that will take place in the same story era and connect with each other in a way similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Apparently this storytelling approach was meant to be applied to the Star Wars Story line-up of films, but since Solo ended up being a disappointment, Lucasfilm decided to pull back and focus their attention elsewhere. But that would explain why Kennedy recently talked about moving away from the trilogy format.

Along with this information, Making Star Wars also brought our attention to a scoop from Ziro.hu, and their recently uncovered information lines up with these new details. Supposedly first step in the future of Star Wars is all tied to an upcoming, secret multimedia initiative called Project Luminous, which was announced by Lucasfilm publishing at New York Comic-Con earlier this year. The initiative involving Star Wars comic writers Claudia Gray, Justina Ireland, Daniel José Older, Cavan Scott, and Charles Soule will span comics, books, video games, and more, and it appears to be the lead-up to this new series of Star Wars movies.

But what will this new Star Wars saga be about? Well, Project Luminous is rumored to follow a group of Jedi setting out to explore the then-unknown regions of the galaxy. The Jedi heroes would go on numerous adventures and encounter a few different kinds of enemies, including some sort of ancient, evil Sith gods. There would be various Jedi that we follow, each with different strengths and Force powers, similar to what we’ve seen from The Avengers in the MCU. But there will also be heroes who aren’t Jedi.

Hmm. I suspect this will go as well as every other non-Marvel attempt to deliberately create a connected universe movie franchise.

Ugh, setting it in the past is a major turn off for me. A lot of those ideas would work in a post-TRoS universe. Let’s see the Reconstruction Era that we missed between Ep 6 and Ep 7. Show us the post-First Order universe. Show the rise of a new and different Jedi Order and give them new threats to face. There is so much to explore if they move forward.

Yeah, I feel the same way about Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings.

Todd wrote:

Ugh, setting it in the past is a major turn off for me.

I agree, Star Wars jumped the shark at this point:

 

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paul f wrote:

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-future-of-star-wars-movies-project-luminosity/

A new rumor from Making Star Wars (which has been pretty reliable with Star Wars scoops in the past) says the next Star Wars saga will take place during an era being referred to as “The High Republic Era.” Similar to previous rumors about the project Benioff and Weiss were working on, this new series will take place 400 years before The Skywalker Saga. But unlike the saga that just wrapped up, we won’t be looking at a new trilogy.

This new Star Wars saga will be made up of a series of films that will take place in the same story era and connect with each other in a way similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Apparently this storytelling approach was meant to be applied to the Star Wars Story line-up of films, but since Solo ended up being a disappointment, Lucasfilm decided to pull back and focus their attention elsewhere. But that would explain why Kennedy recently talked about moving away from the trilogy format.

Along with this information, Making Star Wars also brought our attention to a scoop from Ziro.hu, and their recently uncovered information lines up with these new details. Supposedly first step in the future of Star Wars is all tied to an upcoming, secret multimedia initiative called Project Luminous, which was announced by Lucasfilm publishing at New York Comic-Con earlier this year. The initiative involving Star Wars comic writers Claudia Gray, Justina Ireland, Daniel José Older, Cavan Scott, and Charles Soule will span comics, books, video games, and more, and it appears to be the lead-up to this new series of Star Wars movies.

But what will this new Star Wars saga be about? Well, Project Luminous is rumored to follow a group of Jedi setting out to explore the then-unknown regions of the galaxy. The Jedi heroes would go on numerous adventures and encounter a few different kinds of enemies, including some sort of ancient, evil Sith gods. There would be various Jedi that we follow, each with different strengths and Force powers, similar to what we’ve seen from The Avengers in the MCU. But there will also be heroes who aren’t Jedi.

Hmm. I suspect this will go as well as every other non-Marvel attempt to deliberately create a connected universe movie franchise.

If this is true this is fucking dumb.</p>
Kennedy and Horn should show some restraint and focus on making one film at a time.

Anonymous wrote:

Kennedy and Horn should show some restraint and focus on making one film at a time.

Although making one film at a time is arguably what screwed the sequel trilogy.

Leaving the era aside, doing a series of relatively self-contained stories that can link together isn’t the worst idea, if they start small and build up like the MCU did, as opposed to trying to do The Jedi Avengers right out the bat like the DCEU did or hyping up the endpoint before checking if anyone was interested like the Dark Universe.

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I think it’s the wrong approach.

Star Wars means a bunch of different things to different people. There are people that loves Solo and hated Rogue One and vice versa.

Its unwise to go for a shared narrative straight out of the gate.

Work out what your audience(s) respond to first. There’s a huge history and a built in audience unlike any franchise ever. You risk losing traction with the current audience in an attempt to build a future audience and I think you can do both. The modern audience is cynical and the future audience likely to be even more so.

Shared narrative should be phase 3 or 4, not phase 1. Build the love with the audience first and show the universe is varied and worth investing in (again).

True. And in spite of my general hatred of prequelisation, I wouldn’t mind an Old Republic setting all that much, really, as it is so far removed from the other movies that it hardly matters anymore whether it’s in their past or future. I’d rather see a continuation, but you could see movies in that era as a bit of a restart – just a setting in which you have proper Jedi, not the incompetent asses from the prequels, and their adventure. Why the fuck wouldn’t I watch that?

I’m waiting for the official announcement but the bit that jumped out in the quote is that it’ll act as the lead-up to whatever the next film is.

That can work – see R1 – or can be a disaster – see TLJ.  Do I have confidence in LFL’s ability to coordinate the pieces?

Dave wrote:

Although making one film at a time is arguably what screwed the sequel trilogy.

The sequel trilogy wasn’t one movie at a time; it was doing five movies at once so that they could get them out in a four-year period. Trevorrow was announced for Episode IX back before TFA came out.

paul f wrote:

The sequel trilogy wasn’t one movie at a time; it was doing five movies at once so that they could get them out in a four-year period.

They announced them all at once but they clearly didn’t have a big overarching plan for them in the sense that we’re talking about for this rumoured next phase. The sequel trilogy could have done with a lot more cohesive an approach creatively.

paul f wrote:

Trevorrow was announced for Episode IX back before TFA came out.

And look how that turned out!

I have a feeling there’ll be a really interesting book written one day on how this era of Star Wars was put together. It all feels very seat-of-the-pants as an outsider.

 

I agree that writing the trilogy as it’s being filmed isn’t a great idea.

Although that’s how almost all movie trilogies happen (excepting, for example, the Godfather). Star Wars 7-9 didn’t have room to breathe to get the story right and it also had the burden of 40 years of film history to speak to. I agree it should have had a more cohesive plan straight out of the gate.  At least drafts for all three films, given it was a certainty they would go into production.

That’s not the impression im getting from a MCU style Star Wars universe.  I don’t like that idea.  I don’t think you should do it with Star Wars until you work out what the audience will respond to, and you need to spend some time building up the idea (to the average movie goer) that there’s a universe outside the Skywalkers first, at the least.

paul f wrote:

a series of films that will take place in the same story era and connect with each other in a way similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Apparently this storytelling approach was meant to be applied to the Star Wars Story line-up of films

You can see how it would work. You’ve got Solo, a guy with ship looking to make a fast buck. You’ve got Rogue One, which introduces a princess on the run with secret plans. The next movie could be, maybe, about a random kid who lives on the planet the plans arrive on. And maybe a fourth movie about an old guy who knows the significance of the plans and brings all the others together.

Then when they’ve laid the character groundwork like that, they do a big “Avengers”-style team-up where all these characters get together and stop the big bad. Man, that team-up movie would be epic if they get the foundations right first.

The flaw is in thinking Star Wars is a fanbase – it isn’t really.  It’s not cohesive nor coherent thus there’s no way to set up a story that can tap the entirety of it.  What it comes down is making the best story you can come up with and then try to sell it.  You won’t get everyone but you might get enough.

Why can’t you get everyone? For instance some fans always wanted a definitive ‘end of’ story, but others want a ‘continuing adventures’ model – that’s one fundamental disagreement.  Is it enough for a continuation to have things go wrong but without personally inflicting cost on the characters? Some will say yes, some will say no.  We know the ST’s choices on both of these Qs now.  That being done allows Disney and LFL to sidestep both problems but they get replacements.

What reason is there to care about the new situation and characters? What is the hook? Can an entirely independent story, with no link to Lucas’ films work?  The ST was unarguably boosted by that, what happens when that’s not there?  Find out we will.

Ben wrote:

What reason is there to care about the new situation and characters?

My problem with the ST was they came out with the original 3 as senior citizens and 3 random new characters. I think they did themselves a huge disservice by throwing away the Extended Universe, at least the Animated Universe. Dave Filoni, the guy in charge of Clone Wars and Rebels, created some very compelling characters which had good backstories and loyal fan bases. Use them instead of Rey, Finn, and Poe. They had so much story to tell that we never go to know much about these characters.  here is my take. the only flaw is you need to know the basics from the cartoons.

Replace Vice Admiral Holdo with General Hera Syndulla

Replace Poe with Ezra Bridger

Replace Finn with Sabine Wren

on second thought, you could keep Rey

there, the problem with backstories is fixed. Also, you are able to stop away from the Skywalkers and truly open up the Star Wars Universe.

 

 

p.s. I haven’t seen ROS so I can’t comment on The Knights of Ren, but in my take, you could also scrap Kylo Ren and replace him with Darth Caedus

Whatever they do next, just be more consistent and better organised.

If they’d started completely fresh with no callbacks, or continued from the expanded universe these films would still have annoyed people by being more than a bit crap at presenting the characters and telling the stories.

Disney can have it all. They can have all the merchandising opportunities, they can engage the general public and (I think) please a lot of fans.

But maybe I’m being optimistic?

I really think the problem is just the films, as stories with characters and events that made basic sense, were lacking.

Double post.

I guess it was an attack of the clones?

Rocket wrote:

there, the problem with backstories is fixed.

..only if the majority of the movie-going audience has also seen the Clone Wars animated film and other media formats in which those characters appeared. A lot of people who have followed the big-screen live-action releases (my wife and myself included) have not seen Clone Wars or Rebels, nor have most of the SW fans I’ve asked. Not a scientific survey, mind you, but I’m as familiar with Sabine Wren as I was with Finn when he appeared in The Force Awakens.

SteveUK wrote:

I really think the problem is just the films, as stories with characters and events that made basic sense, were lacking.

This.  It’s a film, not a roller coaster with 90 degree hairpin bends.

njerry wrote:

Rocket wrote:

there, the problem with backstories is fixed.

..only if the majority of the movie-going audience has also seen the Clone Wars animated film and other media formats in which those characters appeared. A lot of people who have followed the big-screen live-action releases (my wife and myself included) have not seen Clone Wars or Rebels, nor have most of the SW fans I’ve asked. Not a scientific survey, mind you, but I’m as familiar with Sabine Wren as I was with Finn when he appeared in The Force Awakens.

Keep up or get out the of the way granpa!

I think the reaction to Darth Maul showing up alive at the end of Solo shows that 95% of people have no idea about anything that’s from the cartoons. See also the Darksaber (?) from the end of The Mandalorian, which I only know from this insanely convoluted podcast clip video:

Do you really need to know anything about the darksaber other than that it’s a black lightsaber and cool as fuck?

Yeah I knew Darth Maul from the movies.

I had no idea about the darksaber – I just thought it was some weapon Moff Gideon had found because he has some kind of designs on becoming a with or something somehow.

Yeah I saw that thing and thought it was dumb as hell and was shocked when I went on Facebook and my Star Wars fan friends were loosing their minds about it.

Ben wrote:

Keep up or get out the of the way granpa!

I know that Clone Wars is considered “official canon”, but the Star Wars powers-that-be have done a piss-poor job of letting the general public know that fact. For instance, I’ve seen box sets that include Episodes 1-8 plus Rogue One, but I have yet to see a set of the movie series that includes Clone Wars. When television channels like TBS or TNT or USA have a Star Wars weekend, they typically show Eps 1 through 6, but not Clone Wars. As a result, lots of viewers (not just us old ones ) are unfamiliar with Ahsoka Tano.

Isn’t the clone wars movie terrible?

rory wrote:

Isn’t the clone wars movie terrible?

The movie is terrible. The show, on the other hand…

paul f wrote:

I think the reaction to Darth Maul showing up alive at the end of Solo shows that 95% of people have no idea about anything that’s from the cartoons.

Apart from the hardcore Star Wars fans who’ll consume everything it is really hard to get that overlap. Rebels and Clone Wars air on what are considered kids TV channels out of the way of casual viewers.

There’s a generation that have that as their entry point (it took 2 years for my son to stop referring to anything ‘Star Wars’ as ‘Star Wars Rebels’) but in his case and a few others I know they aren’t that fussed about the films in comparison.

With the upcoming Marvel shows on Disney+ they look a lot more geared to the same audience as watch the films. I still hope they make the connections more ‘easter eggs’ than vital plot points though. In most of the Marvel movies, even with the connected universe, they are pretty easy to get into as standalone stories.

JRCarter wrote:

rory wrote:

Isn’t the clone wars movie terrible?

The movie is terrible. The show, on the other hand…

How many non movie Star Wars things are there?

I am vaguely aware of the CG cartoon, but it’s relatively old isn’t it? Like prequel trilogy old?

I know i could google this but … so much … effroertttt…..

Anonymous wrote:

JRCarter wrote:

rory wrote:

Isn’t the clone wars movie terrible?

The movie is terrible. The show, on the other hand…

How many non movie Star Wars things are there?

I am vaguely aware of the CG cartoon, but it’s relatively old isn’t it? Like prequel trilogy old?

I know i could google this but … so much … effroertttt…..

Star Wars canon is currently Episodes 1-9, Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, the CG Clone Wars cartoon, Rebels, the current Marvel comics and any novels published by Disney that aren’t tagged Legends.

What is Rebels?

Yes, the signposting is terrible. They haven’t really considered how to do that.

Anonymous wrote:

What is Rebels?

Another cartoon. Clone Wars ran from 2008 to 20013, then Rebels ran from 2014 -2018. Then Clone Wars has come back for additional episodes most recently (which is why you are right it is old but it is also new).

Ah okay – is that a result of the Disney buy up?

Also, am I right to assume they are not linked and that Clone Wars is set in the prequels and Rebels is set during the OT?

Yes and no.

TCW = prequel era

Rebels is set about 4 years before A New Hope

They were to be separate but there are overlaps later in Rebels with TCW.  I went from the latter to the former and it works well, so long as you accept it’s a kids show.

Although, both can also be surprisingly brutal at times.

Jesus I don’t get Star Wars.

I think Disney has clearly taken a lead from Marvel’s collected editions department in how to make the Star Wars stuff easy to follow for a casual observer.

Then again, this stuff is never really aimed at the casual observer, is it? You could say the same about how all the various Star Trek TV shows and movies fit together – impenetrable to an outsider but pretty clear once you understand the basics.

Wait Star Trek and Star Wars aren’t connected!???

Whaaaaaaaaa!

Are you going to tell me that Indiana Jones isn’t either!

Anonymous wrote:

Are you going to tell me that Indiana Jones isn’t either!

I knew it.

I loved it when Indy went on that space adventure and made out with the galactic princess and then came back to earth to make fun of Sean Connery.

Those movies were great.

They should just make more of those ones.

Han Solo: Nazi Hunter

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus I don’t get Star Wars.

It’s very simple. There was a stand-alone movie called Star Wars. It was, and still is awesome.

That is literally all there is to know

They should make a sequel!

DavidM wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus I don’t get Star Wars.

It’s very simple. There was a stand-alone movie called Star Wars. It was, and still is awesome.

That is literally all there is to know

You say that, but if you regard the original Star Wars as standalone then how are viewers supposed to understand the economic and trade disputes that led the Jedi to disappear in the first place?

Dave wrote:

DavidM wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus I don’t get Star Wars.

It’s very simple. There was a stand-alone movie called Star Wars. It was, and still is awesome.

That is literally all there is to know

You say that, but if you regard the original Star Wars as standalone then how are viewers supposed to understand the economic and trade disputes that led the Jedi to disappear in the first place?

I just wish General Organa would stop trying to make that stupid trade war between Alderaan and Tatooine a thing.

No one cares about your stupid embargos, Organa.

That was all down to Russian hackers.

lorcan_nagle wrote:

I know i could google this but … so much … effroertttt…

if you notice the names I used were actually links, all you had to do was click on them.

Really people. my job is helping mostly senior citizens comprehend basic computer functions and you people are making them look good.

Dave wrote:

DavidM wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus I don’t get Star Wars.

It’s very simple. There was a stand-alone movie called Star Wars. It was, and still is awesome.

That is literally all there is to know

You say that, but if you regard the original Star Wars as standalone then how are viewers supposed to understand the economic and trade disputes that led the Jedi to disappear in the first place?

They’re dead Dave, everybody’s dead.

Ben wrote:

They’re dead Dave, everybody’s dead.

Now that’s a crossover I can get behind.

Darth Rimmer and Emperor Fribble.

Rocket wrote:

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Now you’re making me scroll all the way up … this is the worst day ever…

Dave wrote:

Then again, this stuff is never really aimed at the casual observer, is it? You could say the same about how all the various Star Trek TV shows and movies fit together – impenetrable to an outsider but pretty clear once you understand the basics.

Pretty much, but LFL and Disney had an opportunity to improve this with doing that clean slate reboot in 2014.

Instead….

…. Same as it ever was.

Nah, we’ve got that covered in The Mandalorian thread already.

As an answer to what Star Wars needs…

Is it the widespread realisation that Star Wars was a very fun movie from 1977 that too many people have been taking far, far too seriously in increasingly critical ways for decades? That would be good.

This is quitter talk.

Ben wrote:

As an answer to what Star Wars needs…

I can’t watch this video as it seems to be blocked here, but John Wick with lightsabers would be awesome.

Anonymous wrote:

John Wick with lightsabers would be awesome.

Much better than the actual John Wick 3 film.

With the family stuff in SW I wonder if we’ll get a big revelation that Baby Yoda is Yoda’s grandkid.

 

njerry wrote:

Much better than the actual John Wick 3 film.

This is true.