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Star Wars Thread: Episode II
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I don’t think it ever happened in the original trilogy.
Yeah, if you restrict this to the OT, that’s fair.
My canon stops with the OT
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I don’t think it ever happened in the original trilogy.
Yeah, if you restrict this to the OT, that’s fair.
My canon stops with the OT
Original theatrical cut. No “special editions” or other revisions.
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I don’t think it ever happened in the original trilogy.
Yeah, if you restrict this to the OT, that’s fair.
My canon stops with the OT
I used to think like that as well, but when your son is a massive fan of all SW content, that kind of changes that reality.
(He does agree that the prequels are bad movies – thank fucking Christ, I mean, I would’ve had to get rid of him somehow! – but the story and characters from those movies are important to him, because he loves the Clone Wars and all kinds of other stuff that builds on the prequels.)
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So, the big book of the year, Shadow of the Sith, is out.
With a bit of luck it’ll be the start of more material for Sequels that’ll do for them what the various Prequel material has done for that era.
Does that change the films? Not the films as such, but it can change perception of them. Not least as they are no longer the only representation of the era.
One thing that was true from the start for the Sequels is the most interesting stuff was being done far away from films, in lower profile, under the radar mediums. In that respect, the new book continues that very strongly.
Could it be considered as an episode 6.5? Due to an absence of much competition, it has some from Bloodline, it could be. Unlike the earlier book it can look at the three Sequels films rather than one.
It’s also a substantial hardback, with 465 pages of story and a wonderfully creepy take on Sith artifacts. Also, Exegol.
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For a significant retainer fee no doubt.
If Disney are foolish enough to alter the deal….
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So it seems Disney and LFL have woken up to the idea that they may have made the Empire too cool.
To remedy this they have done both Andor and the Bad Batch, the latest of which makes it very clear that yes, the Empire are the baddies.
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Also, and we have more Andor instead of Mando? I want to stay liking Star Wars. :(
I do hope that Andor’s success encourages them to do more of this kind of show. It’s not exactly easy, of course – Tony Gilroy is an incredible writer, and handing this series over to him to do it with his sensibilities, that was actually quite a decision. And he’s busy working on that second and last season of Andor, and it’ll probably be the last Star Wars project for him. But making some shows that are more nuanced, more complex and made with more attention to detail, that’s something they should be able to manage with other creators, as well. Fingers crossed.
So it seems Disney and LFL have woken up to the idea that they may have made the Empire too cool.
To remedy this they have done both Andor and the Bad Batch, the latest of which makes it very clear that yes, the Empire are the baddies.
The thing that strikes me most about the Empire in Andor isn’t even the cruelty of that prison planet and all that, but mostly just how boring it must be to live in the Empire. Syril’s new job of course being the standout where that is concerned.
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The iconic voice of Darth Vader and Mufasa, James Earl Jones turns 92 today pic.twitter.com/4t2OlXwXaz
— Geek Vibes Nation (@GeekVibesNation) January 17, 2023
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Star Wars: Visions S2 info, including Aardman!
Star Wars: Visions Volume 2 starts streaming May 4 on Disney+ , featuring nine new animated shorts from nine studios from across the globe. https://t.co/41wgwbyqrO pic.twitter.com/WYsP4Eu3eA
— Star Wars | #TheBadBatch now streaming on Disney+ (@starwars) February 2, 2023
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The Bad Batch S2 just dropped a superb two-parter for its midway point.
Quite delicious seeing Rampart be thrown under the bus while, at the same time, the Emperor manipulates the Senate to approve the creation of the stormtroopers. Who in turn will replace the clonetroopers.
It also neatly recasts the Death Star discussion in ANH the Moffs have about the Senate.
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A Disturbance In The Force Trailer: New Doc Looks Back At The Maligned Star Wars Holiday Special
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Bad Batch season 2 just concluded in excellent fashion, there better be a season three!
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The Bad Batch stuff about phasing out the Clone Troopers has been brilliant. I’d really like if they focused more on that than the mostly average adventure of the week stuff.
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Star Wars Series ‘Ahsoka’ Casts Lars Mikkelsen as Fan Favorite Villain Grand Admiral Thrawn
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Not in a world of streaming where to catch up you’re looking at no more than a month subscription, if that.
None of the TV series are a big timesink, the ep count is low.
Plus, in all likelihood, the film will be written in such a way as to work no matter what. Think of Avengers – that film pays off the previous four but if you haven’t seen them? It still works fine. This’ll just be the SW version.
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Not in a world of streaming where to catch up you’re looking at no more than a month subscription, if that.
None of the TV series are a big timesink, the ep count is low.
Plus, in all likelihood, the film will be written in such a way as to work no matter what. Think of Avengers – that film pays off the previous four but if you haven’t seen them? It still works fine. This’ll just be the SW version.
I don’t trust Filoni with that at all, given how much of Mandalorian S2-3 relies on people caring about the animated series, and how the Ahsoka trailer looks like it’s at least in part going to be a direct continuation of Rebels, a show I watched but have little affection for.
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As to Mando and Ahsoka’s links to TCW / Rebels I think that again reflects streaming. It’s far easier to go back and access the older material if you want.
Sure, but there’s over 200 episodes worth of material in the animated series, and a lot of it isn’t very good. Expecting people to do the homework doesn’t work for me.
They care so little about catching people up who don’t watch everything that they didn’t even include Mando getting Grogu back in the Previously On at the start of Mandalorian S3. Boba Fett was just something you’re expected to have watched.
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The Filoni movie is the one that’s least interesting to me of those. I am glad to see them continuing the story of the Jedi’s re-establishment past the Empire, and that they’re bringing Rey back for it.
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This is too good not to share.
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That was amazing. I wish that was an actual movie, I’d watch the hell out of that.
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Visions Season 2
This set felt better, more consistent and varied in style. Where the first series was more anime, this one takes a more global approach, mixing up the styles far more.
The witch in the second ep was more than a little scary. Aardman’s short was excellent, as was Lawson’s voice cameo. The Bandits of Goluk is indeed a highlight, being an India-inspired take on SW.
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Yesterday the 25th was the 40th anniversary of the RotJ premiere.
The storytelling was a notch below Empire Strikes Back, but RotJ had its moments that I won’t mention right now.
40 years…
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Yeah, I’m really hoping this will be another good one. Statistically, the chances are slim, but the trailer does look neat. Of course, I am not even the target audience – my kid, having watched all the animated stuff and read the Thrawn novels, is having a heart attack over this.
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That actually makes Ahsoka look far better than it is.
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That actually makes Ahsoka look far better than it is.
Which is impressive given how much shade they threw at the show in the narration.
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That actually makes Ahsoka look far better than it is.
Which is impressive given how much shade they threw at the show in the narration.
Exactly!
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Yeah, I wanna watch that show, that looked cool!
Oh, all our Ahsoka talk was in the watching thread, right? I don’t remember if I bitched about the last episode enough.
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Right, I’ll add this at least then: I thought it was very silly that the big, climactic fight of the episode was a sword-fight between Morgan and Ahsoka. Not only did they pull a mythic sword out of their ass at the last minute, Morgan also hadn’t been shown to have any fighting expertise up to that point in the series – yes, if you remember her from Mando, you’ve seen her fight before, but to be honest, I’d completely forgotten about all that. So, you know, the Fallen Jedi who had been built up as the physical opponents for the whole season just disappear and she steps in for the big end fight. Just… so daft. Almost as daft as saying something like “Ezra is where he belongs now, and so are we” (or something along those lines) when for all you know he’s been taken prisonar by Thrawn while you are stuck with the fucking turtle people. It’s a great example of dialogue written not for the characters or the actual situation, but with a writer’s goal in mind that don’t fit either of the former.
And I mean, hey, sure, you can include total nerd knowledge like stuff from that one episode of Clone Wars and that non-Jedi force family stuff, but if it’s the one thing hinting at what Baylon’s character is all about, you might want to make it a little more understandable for the 99.9999% of the audience who hasn’t seen that episode (unlike me, who did, because it’s among the Clone Wars episodes that my kid made me watch (I was happy to catch a few of them, but there was no way I was going to watch that whole series)).
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It’s assuming to a dumb degree. I’ve enjoyed Clone Wars but do I remember the numerous eps that well? Not really. I’m certainly not going to link an old statue to an ep seen years ago without any verbal prompt or other cue.
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It’s assuming to a dumb degree. I’ve enjoyed Clone Wars but do I remember the numerous eps that well? Not really. I’m certainly not going to link an old statue to an ep seen years ago without any verbal prompt or other cue.
Yeah, that statue threw me. I didn’t know it referenced something specific but just assumed it was somehow “important”.
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The only reason I know it’s from Mortis is someone else posted the answer, no way would I have connected the two.
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This feels like clutching at straws.
https://gizmodo.com/new-star-wars-movie-mandalorian-grogu-jon-favreau-filon-1851152084
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This feels like clutching at straws.
https://gizmodo.com/new-star-wars-movie-mandalorian-grogu-jon-favreau-filon-1851152084
What, you don’t want to see Dave Filoni canonise some shit from Droids and have a bunch of guest stars you don’t care about and a CGI ghoul of.. I dunno, Admiral Tagge in a movie?
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What, you don’t want to see Dave Filoni canonise some shit from Droids and have a bunch of guest stars you don’t care about and a CGI ghoul of.. I dunno, Admiral Tagge in a movie?
Is this a trick question?
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I just wish they’d move past all this prequel bullshit. It’s a complete storytelling dead end.
The Rise of Skywalker was a bad movie, but the way it’s terrified them to not want to continue the progression of the story is crazy. It’s still made a billion for gods sake so I don’t get why it’s scared them away from movies and has them hiding in tv land..And now we’re getting a glorified tv movie🤨..It’s bizarre.
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I just wish they’d move past all this prequel bullshit. It’s a complete storytelling dead end.
The Rise of Skywalker was a bad movie, but the way it’s terrified them to not want to continue the progression of the story is crazy. It’s still made a billion for gods sake so I don’t get why it’s scared them away from movies and has them hiding in tv land..And now we’re getting a glorified tv movie🤨..It’s bizarre.
So I know someone who does a lot of writing for Star Wars ancillary media, and he says that Once your project is greenlit you’ve got a lot of creative freedom from Lucasfilm. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the creators who would drive the franchise forward have been scared off by dickhead fans. And it’s not like those dickhead fans aren’t going to turn on Lucasfilm when they play it safe as well – a bunch of the same people who claimed Mandalorian was the true way forward for Star Wars two years ago were screaming and crying because they had Jack Black and Lizzo in it. You know, because black and fat people shouldn’t exist in a galaxy far, far way or something.
All that said, they do appear to be developing a Rey-centred project at the moment so maybe that will change. Or not, given how most of the interesting stuff in pre-production has been cancelled or indefinitely postponed.
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crying because they had Jack Black and Lizzo in it.
In fairness Jack Black and Lizzo were fucking awful in that rubbish episode. But the weird incel haters can fuck off, don’t get me wrong.
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rubbish episode.
It’s quicker to just type “Mandalorian”
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crying because they had Jack Black and Lizzo in it.
In fairness Jack Black and Lizzo were fucking awful in that rubbish episode. But the weird incel haters can fuck off, don’t get me wrong.
Unfortunately at this point I think Star Wars TV probably has to provide a bit more than just “this will piss off incels.”
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crying because they had Jack Black and Lizzo in it.
In fairness Jack Black and Lizzo were fucking awful in that rubbish episode. But the weird incel haters can fuck off, don’t get me wrong.
Unfortunately at this point I think Star Wars TV probably has to provide a bit more than just “this will piss off incels.”
At least Andor’s pretty great.
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This week has been peak Star Whinge, as fans whinge more than some guy wanting to get some power converters.
Monday – it goes viral that in an interview the director for the Rey film, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, thinks Star Wars being directed by a woman is overdue. Cue outrage.
Then another quote from her was that she likes to make men uncomfortable. Turns out it was in relation to her 2015 documentary on abuse in Pakistan, which by its nature, would not be comfortable viewing.
Tuesday – the Mando film is announced. Cue outrage, that Disney is forcing fans to the cinema, that it is a betrayal of its streaming origins – you’d think the film had gone around overnight, pissing in cornflakes and running over cats.
And it’s only Weds.
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Monday – it goes viral that in an interview the director for the Rey film, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, thinks Star Wars being directed by a woman is overdue.
I don’t know why Bryce Dallas Howard hasn’t been given a Star Wars movie gig yet. Her Mando episodes have been standouts.
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Tuesday – the Mando film is announced.
At least give it its full name, The Mandalorian & Grogu: Caravan Of Courage.
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At least Andor’s pretty great.
Please. Pretty fucking great.
I’m off to rewatch Luthen’s soliloquy.
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Star Wars: Rogue Squadron Back in Development, Patty Jenkins Says – IGN
Patty Jenkins says her previously shelved Star Wars project, Rogue Squadron is back in development.
The Wonder Woman director shared the update in during an interview with the Talking Pictures podcast. It’s a surprising update for those who thought the fighter pilot-focused spinoff would never land, but Jenkins says she is at least back writing a draft now that her schedule has opened up.
“When I left Star Wars to do Wonder Woman 3, and I started working on that, we talked about, ‘Well, maybe I’ll come back to Star Wars after Wonder Woman 3,’ so we started a deal for that to happen,” she said. “When Wonder Woman 3 then went away, Lucasfilm and I were like ‘Oh, we’ve got to finish this deal.’ We finished the deal right as the strike was beginning, so I now owe a draft of Star Wars.”
In other words, Rogue Squadron remains in the early stages of development since our last update in 2022. However, it’s at least some positive news that signals Disney still wants this project to happen in some form. The company is currently in a bit of a lull when it comes to Star Wars movies as Disney+ spinoff shows content continues to roll out. Other films in the works include The Mandalorian & Grogu as well as Taika Waititi’s untitled movie.
“They have a hard job in front of them of, ‘What’s the first movie they’re going to do?’” she continued. “They have other directors who have been working, but I am now back on doing Rogue Squadron. We’ll see what happens. We need to get it to where we’re both super happy with it.”
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron was originally announced as a Jenkins-directed film in 2020. Progress continued steadily from there until Disney hit fans with an indefinite delay in 2021. Then, the following year, the company removed the project from its calendar entirely.
It wasn’t until April 2023 that LucasFilm President Kathleen Kennedy clarified that her Rogue Squadron project could still happen. At the time, she said the film is something that “we still talk about,” though she also warned that it may not return as what was originally pitched.
“Whether it’s a movie, or whether it ends up being in the series space, that’s definitely something,” she said.
Although Jenkins does say today that she’s always wanted to create a “fighter pilot movie,” it’s still unclear if Rogue Squadron will stick to the original vision.
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Rogue Squadron is one of the few remaining Star Wars projects I was still interested in, so it’s good to see it might still be kicking around.
Also, it’s beginning to amuse me that they seem to have made a big push to have everyone forget The Child and remember Grogu instead, but Din Djarin is still called The Mandalorian. Presumably because they can trademark Mandalorian and Grogu but not Child.
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So will it be more Mando or Andor?
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I suspect more Andor.
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One can always hope…
It’s an interesting setting, at least, and the showrunner was one of the creators/writers on Russian Doll, which was great. But to be honest, the other stuff she did doesn’t look all that great, and it doesn’t exactly scream “Star Wars” either. But hey, maybe that’s a good thing – Tony Gilroy also came at this with a completely different perspective.
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It is 1999 – all anyone talks about is how the story must uphold canon and who must die in order to do so.
It is 2016 – all anyone talks about is how the story must uphold canon and who must die in order to do so.
It is 2024 – all anyone talks about is how the story must uphold canon and who must die in order to do so.
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Given the way the Filoni shows went in the end, I have zero interest in the movie length fan-service fest that that’s going to be.
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