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  • #143543

    Sad news, I didn’t know his work but it sounds like I would have come to.

    In Memoriam: Comic Artist Adam Terence Stone

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  • #143899

    Yesterday, I went to my LCS to pick up by subscription books. I hadn’t been there in 2-3 months.

    I only had two comics in my box.

    I know I’ve scaled down my purchasing but this was still a bit of a shock to me. I think the loss of the Diamond catalog has affected my purchasing. It really made looking at upcoming books easy and let my LCS know what I want. I know Sean posts links to the upcoming books. Still, having one source with everything in it made ordering easier.

  • #144371

    I think the loss of the Diamond catalog has affected my purchasing. It really made looking at upcoming books easy and let my LCS know what I want. I know Sean posts links to the upcoming books. Still, having one source with everything in it made ordering easier.

    I do miss those days of browsing the Diamond catalogue and deciding which books to get. That was always a good day.

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  • #144596

    I was downtown yesterday at the Planet. Nice stuff on the glass display. The prices:

    https://i.ibb.co/DDDMWMDZ/Forbidden-Planet.jpg

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  • #144769

    Action Comics No. 1 soars to record $15 million sale, resetting all-time mark

    For the second time in less than two months, there’s a new most expensive comic book in the world

    The title of “most valuable comic book in the world” changed hands again Friday.

    But the record still belongs to the Man of Steel.

    Less than two months after a copy of Superman No. 1 went for a record price, that all-time mark was shattered when a rare issue of Action Comics No. 1 sold for an eye-popping $15 million in a private sale, which was first reported by the Associated Press.

    Metropolis Collectibles/Comic Connect in New York brokered the sale for the comic book that featured the first appearance of Superman, according to the AP. The buyer wishes to remain anonymous.

    The sale come after a new high-water mark was established by the Nov. 20 sale of Superman No. 1 at Heritage Auctions for $9.12 million. That book was graded CGC 9.0, the highest graded copy ever assessed by the leading authenticator.

    The issue of Action Comics No. 1 that sold Friday (also graded CGC 9.0) was stolen from the home of actor Nicolas Cage in 2000, per the AP, and later recovered in 2011.

    Metropolis Collectibles/Comic Connect president Vincent Zurzolo said that backstory likely contributed to the record price.

    “This is among the holy grail of comic books. Without Superman and his popularity, there would be no Batman or other superhero comic book legends,” Zurzolo told the AP. “Its importance in the comic book community shows with his deal, as it obliterates the previous record.”

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  • #144774

    The prices:

    I mean, I’m paying off two Macross toys in that price range right now…

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  • #145219

    Two podcasts I listened to (X-Wife and House of X) stopped doing weekly reviews for a while because so many X-titles were being churned out by Marvel and it was just too time consuming. So even podcasters dropped titles. 🤣

    They aren’t weekly but every few weeks they will give a 1+ hour podcast reviewing an event like this age of revelation X event.

    I haven’t listened to Jay and Miles in a while and no recent shows have been released.

    Now I am hearing that Jay and Miles will end sometime this year.

     

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  • #145307

    Neil Gaiman claims sexual assault allegations are result of ‘smear campaign’

    Author says accusations ‘spread and amplified’ by people more interested in ‘outrage and getting clicks’

    This will clear it all up, good thinking Neil.

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  • #145308

    Oh, yeah, that’ll work. He needs to fire his advisors.

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  • #145309

    Neil Gaiman claims sexual assault allegations are result of ‘smear campaign’

    Author says accusations ‘spread and amplified’ by people more interested in ‘outrage and getting clicks’

    This will clear it all up, good thinking Neil.

    That popped up on my Instagram feed today, as I forgot I follow him.

    All I could think when I read that was, “Dude, shut the fuck up. You need to stay under whatever rock you crawled beneath and stay quiet for several years. Get therapy or whatever.”

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  • #145329

    In his instagram, he has also linked to a research by a supposedly independent (anonymous) online journalist who I don’t think has done anything else… anyway, they go through the allegations and the available materials and harshly criticise the podcast that broke all this. Now, I haven’t read all of Gaiman’s correspondence with Scarlett and all of the other court documents, but I think this “investigative journalist” is jumping to conclusions in a similar way, just from the other direction.

    Gaiman may be right when he claims that he didn’t force women into clearly non-consensual sex. But there is too much that went on that’ll leave a bad taste in your mouth to attribute all this to a “smear campaign”. I don’t know, maybe he actually does feel completely innocent. Which is particularly sad in its own way.

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  • #145347

    The original podcast that broke the story was dodgy as fuck, it was hosted by Boris Johnston’s sister and seems to have been an attempt to get people to defend Gaiman so transphobes could point to it as “proof” that progressives had no principles.  But Vulture not only interviewed most of the women the podcast found, they found four more.  It goes way beyond the actual smear campaign, if that is what the original podcast was.

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  • #145377

    A long time ago, can’t remember where, think I read an intro by Gaiman where he talked about never apologise, never explain is a good rule for life.

    It’s also a good rule for being a complete arse.

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  • #145451

    I saw this listing:

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  • #145453

    I saw this listing:

    What is it, and who generated it? Is it a list of Marvel-only pages drawn by these artists? Did Curt Swan, Jerry Ordway and Kurt Schaffenberger draw for Marvel?

    Or is this a list of the original artwork that Al-x has stored in his mansion? That seems more likely… :-)

  • #145457

    What is it, and who generated it? Is it a list of Marvel-only pages drawn by these artists? Did Curt Swan, Jerry Ordway and Kurt Schaffenberger draw for Marvel? Or is this a list of the original artwork that Al-x has stored in his mansion? That seems more likely… :-)

    From Gail Simone Facebook page. IIRC.

    I came across this database phone app for comics and other things that’s good for cataloging and finding the going rate value of an issue. All you do is scan in either the cover or barcode and a reading will appear giving you all the info.

  • #145470

    What is it, and who generated it? Is it a list of Marvel-only pages drawn by these artists? Did Curt Swan, Jerry Ordway and Kurt Schaffenberger draw for Marvel?

    I thought Curt Swan’s only artwork for Marvel was a picture of Gladiator for the origional Marvel Handbook series.

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  • #145476

    Did Curt Swan ever draw for Maevel?

    Yes, legendary DC artist Curt Swan did work for Marvel, though it was very minimal, as he was known for being a loyal, “DC guy” for 51 years.

    Based on records, his Marvel contributions included:

    Captain America #616 (2011): This issue featured a Captain America sketch by Swan that was originally created in 1994.

    Genesis #0 (1993): He contributed work to this Marvel title.

    Other Potential Work: Some sources suggest he may have provided a spot illustration of Gladiator for a Marvel Universe handbook.

    While Swan was approached by other companies, he largely remained exclusive to DC, specializing in Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes from the late 1940s to the mid-1980s.

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  • #145477

    If Curt Swan was a robot, would he take over the earth?

    Based on the legacy and personality of the late, legendary DC Comics artist Curt Swan, if he were a robot, he would almost certainly not take over the Earth.

    Instead, he would likely be programmed to create the most stable, anatomically correct, and beautifully rendered comic book art possible.

    Here is why a robot Curt Swan would be harmless:

    He was “The Norman Rockwell of Comics”: Biographer Eddy Zeno and critics described Swan’s artistic style as approachable, big-hearted, and gentle. A robot based on this philosophy would likely focus on nurturing, not conquering.

    He was a Dedicated Professional: Swan was known for being a consistent, prolific artist who “plodded on” to get the job done. He was more interested in delivering exactly what was required for the page than seizing power.

    His Focus Was Truth and Justice: According to colleagues, Swan (and his art) was a “philosophical product” that believed in “truth, justice and the American way”. A robot version would be programmed with these moral, heroic ideals.

    He Valued Human Connection: His work was revered for bringing emotion and humanity to Superman. He depicted heroes in believable, everyday situations rather than acting as a cold, calculating machine.

    If anything, a robot Swan would simply “fix” the artistic consistency of every comic book in existence, not rule the planet.

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  • #145526

    I heard news that Alex Ross has a Marvel project coming in September.
    I always liked him and his work, but I can see how some who read “Kingdom Come” said that the art made up for the story.
    I liked it, but I was asked “If it was drawn regularly, would you still like it?” and… had a point.

    Todd McFarlane in his own case, felt artwork first then story:

  • #145548

    Todd McFarlane in his own case, felt artwork first then story:

    Which is why most of his books were dogshit.

    I always liked him and his work, but I can see how some who read “Kingdom Come” said that the art made up for the story.

    Really? I always thought it was a pretty solid story. I mean, come on. Mark Waid is one of the industry’s most productive writers. A lot of his work is standard superhero fare, but he also did some outstanding work.

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  • #145549

    Really? I always thought it was a pretty solid story. I mean, come on. Mark Waid is one of the industry’s most productive writers. A lot of his work is standard superhero fare, but he also did some outstanding work.

    I’m not saying that it sucked. It’s just that some readers might have a point when they say that the artwork and formatting added a lot more to it. I liked the story about Superman’s comeback, reuniting the JLA etc. The storytelling is there. I like good storytelling accompanied with the artwork to do it justice. (And I read Alan Moore’s long DC “pitch” and proposed story epic “Twilight of the God’s”)

    As for McFarlane, I liked his initial run on Spiderman and a few Spawn stories. But McFarlane is his own case entirely.

  • #145550

    During that period in the late 80s/early 90s, I always felt that Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld were great “pin-up” artists, capable of drawing an exciting, sexy image, but not very good at telling a story through their art. Jim Lee and Marc Silvestri were much better at sequential art that was also dynamic and exciting.

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  • #145552

    During that period in the late 80s/early 90s, I always felt that Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld were great “pin-up” artists, capable of drawing an exciting, sexy image, but not very good at telling a story through their art. Jim Lee and Marc Silvestri were much better at sequential art that was also dynamic and exciting.

    While his style wasn’t as “KEWL!” as the other Image Founders, Jim Valentino was an excellent storyteller, in both writing and art. His work always had a great energy to it. I loved his Guardians of the Galaxy run. He was like a kid in a candy store, having fun basically doing whatever he wanted.

    Valentino is underrated, in my opinion.

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  • #145558

    I remember this argument playing out in the letters pages of “adjectiveless” Spider-Man when Todd was on the book.

    Back then McFarlane made the argument that a comic full of images but with no text was still a comic, but a book full of text with no images wasn’t. His editor argued that a book that was all images and no text was a portfolio and not a comic either.

    I did laugh to myself when around 10 years later Marvel ran its special “nuff said” event where every book was silent for a month with no text and the story was told entirely through the art. Maybe Todd had a point after all.

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  • #145568

    I can understand great art adding to a good story, but whether it makes up for bad storytelling…

    Now Straczynski had something to say.

  • #145573

    Looks like Dstlry is running into problems.

    Dstlry Creators Express Concern To Bleeding Cool, Dstlry Responds

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  • #145578

    I’m not saying that it sucked. It’s just that some readers might have a point when they say that the artwork and formatting added a lot more to it. I liked the story about Superman’s comeback, reuniting the JLA etc. The storytelling is there. I like good storytelling accompanied with the artwork to do it justice. (And I read Alan Moore’s long DC “pitch” and proposed story epic “Twilight of the God’s”)

    Well, you said the artwork “made up for” the story, which would be the case if it sucked. As it is, I think it would have been a good book with a different (good) artist, as well, although Ross’ art of course stood out and was no doubt also responsible for its great success.

    Back then McFarlane made the argument that a comic full of images but with no text was still a comic, but a book full of text with no images wasn’t. His editor argued that a book that was all images and no text was a portfolio and not a comic either.

    He’s making the categorical mistake of reducing the writing to the dialogue and captions, though. The writing is the art of telling the story, and if you don’t do that, a portfolio is indeed what you are left with.

    I loved David Kuper’s The System back then, a Vertigo book without words.

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  • #145583

    He’s making the categorical mistake of reducing the writing to the dialogue and captions, though. The writing is the art of telling the story, and if you don’t do that, a portfolio is indeed what you are left with.

    I think adjectiveless Spider-Man proved this too. :rose:

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  • #145587

    He’s making the categorical mistake of reducing the writing to the dialogue and captions, though. The writing is the art of telling the story, and if you don’t do that, a portfolio is indeed what you are left with.

    This is what annoys me when artists say they’re the most important part of a comics creative team (not necessarily untrue) and that they don’t need a writer. If you’re making sequential pictures that form a story, guess what? You’re the writer. They haven’t eliminated the need for one, they’ve just taken it on themselves.

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  • #145591

    The truth is of course that the distinction between Writer and Artist isn’t and has never been a clear binary distinction in comics. Artists are constantly adding “writing” aspects to the story in terms of the choices they make in how to frame an image, what expression to give a character, how much detail to provide in a scene, colour selection etc.

    You only have to think of Stan Lee’s classic Marvel comics with Kirby and Ditko to realise how much an artist can bring to what we might think of as “writing” aspects of a story.

    So really, falling into the trap of this entire debate is the mistake. The beauty of comics is the way that words and pictures come together to form a fused artform of its own, and characterising writers and artists as being entirely separate and distinct (or even worse, opposed) aspects of that seems to miss the point, for me.

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  • #145597

    I remember Byrne feuding with Claremont with the X-Men over things like Colossus struggling to pull out a tree stump, Wolverine from Canada and his background being in Japan, Alpha Flight characters, and so on.

    Back to Alex Ross: He feuded with Waid over the amount of credit for Kingdom Come. As for Kingdom Come, there were many arguments online at the time when some said it was on par with Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen. They were the ones who would say the artwork made up for a few lapses (for lack of better wording right now) in the story, Waid lifted ideas from Alan Moore’s pitch etc.

    I say the artwork complemented the story and I look forward to Ross’ Marvel project in September, which sounds like the Marvel version of those DC tabloid size books he did about Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, and Shazam. Should be cool.

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  • #145644

    So really, falling into the trap of this entire debate is the mistake. The beauty of comics is the way that words and pictures come together to form a fused artform of its own, and characterising writers and artists as being entirely separate and distinct (or even worse, opposed) aspects of that seems to miss the point, for me.

    Quite so. There’s all kinds of writer/artist collaborations, and sometimes the writer is doing more of the storytelling and sometimes the artist is doing more of it. And sometimes the artist and the writer are the same person, and that allows all kinds of different approaches for those who are talented in both areas.

    That being said, I think as readers we look for different things in comics. I know that for many people, the art is the most important thing about a comic book, but I have always been the other way around. In American comic books, with that traditional split between writers’ and artists’ jobs, I follow writers and I am quite happy if I also like the artist illustrating their book, but it doesn’t matter all that much to me.

    I would love, say, Planetary just as much if Hitch had illustrated it and The Authority if that’d been Cassaday. But I’d hate both if they’d been written by Brad Meltzer or Geoff Johns.

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  • #145720

    Rob Liefeld has spent the last 24 hours arguing with loads of randoms on twitter about whether DKR #1 came out in late February 1986 (as some modern listings say) or mid-March 1986 (as contemporary sources suggest).

    Like, who cares? If I made millions from comics I feel like I could find better things to do with my time.

    It’s kind of funny as it doesn’t even really matter, he’s just responding to a load of people positively celebrating the 40th anniversary (I know) with a load of “well hactually…”

    Bizarre.

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  • #145721

    Anything to avoid drawing Youngblood: Bloodsport issue 2, I guess.

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  • #145723

    Guy who can’t draw feet says what, now?

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  • #146020

    Corporate blight Embracer Group remove Mike Richardson from DHC.

    https://www.comicsbeat.com/founder-mike-richardson-exits-dark-horse-after-40-years/?utm_source=threads&utm_medium=jetpack_social

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  • #146026

    Corporate blight Embracer Group remove Mike Richardson from DHC.

    https://www.comicsbeat.com/founder-mike-richardson-exits-dark-horse-after-40-years/?utm_source=threads&utm_medium=jetpack_social

    I wonder how many independent creators will renew their contracts, if they’re even offered, now that Richardson is gone.

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  • #146028

    Yeah, my DHC buys now are Mignolaverse and Usagi and they don’t have to stay with DHC.

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  • #146029

    Richardson made Dark Horse into a creator-friendly company that attracted the likes of Mike Mignola, Frank Miller, Art Adams, Mike Allred, John Byrne, Paul Chadwick, Geof Darrow and others in the mid-1990s. I can’t imagine Dark Horse without his guiding hand; on the other hand, Richardson knew what to expect when he sold the company to a conglomerate like Embracer.

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  • #146030

    The statement the new management put out gives very little confidence, look at it:

    “In a statement that went out to business partners and creators obtained by Popverse, from Dark Horse vice president of product development and sales, Randy Lahrman, the move was explained as a way for

    “changes to modernize the business and strengthen collaboration across publishing, games, film, merchandise, and other key areas.” The statement, sent by Dark Horse’s vice president of product development and sales, Randy Lahrman, stresses this leadership change was done in order to “better align Dark Horse within a more connected and forward-looking group structure” within Embracer.

    “Our goal is simple: to ensure Dark Horse is positioned for sustained success while continuing to serve creators, partners, and fans at the highest level,” writes Lahrman. “

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  • #147238

    Generation X-23 Is The Only Marvel Comic Left That Costs “Just” $3.99

    It’s only a matter of time before everyone else follows suit.

  • #147243

    Don’t understand how anyone affords comics now.

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  • #147247

    The single issue market is insane now. Surely it’s not in any way sustainable for much longer and they’ll need to switch to an OGN format?

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  • #147248

    Apparently Powers (Bendis/Oeming) is in development by Netflix as a cartoon, in partnership with Dark Horse Entertainment.

    (I also recently found out that the end of Powers season 2 had a post credit scene that I completely missed. My partner is still cross about the ending and I really want to find it.)

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  • #147259

    I found this amazing interview. Moore and Claremont in the UK Comics new rag Speakeasy from 85 which is a few year before I discovered the whole scene…

    https://archive.org/details/moore-and-claremont-speak-out-on-writing-from-speakeasy-054/mode/2up

  • #147267

    The single issue market is insane now. Surely it’s not in any way sustainable for much longer and they’ll need to switch to an OGN format?

    For $69/year, you can subscribe to Marvel Unlimited and get:
    – 30,000+ comics accessible anytime, anywhere
    – New comics available as soon as 3 months after they hit shelves
    – Read on iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ devices and web

    (There are other options.)

    If you don’t mind not owning the comics, reading digital versions, and waiting three months for new books, this is honestly the best deal. For the price of almost 14 comics priced at $4.99, you get access to 30,000+ books. “Unlimited downloads and offline reading for all comics, including Marvel’s all-new in-universe stories, told in vertical format!” If there’s a story you really like, you can always go buy the trade assuming it’s available.

    What’s wild is I think it’s been that price for years now. Even if they doubled the price, you still come out ahead. That’s insane.

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  • #147269

    The primary reason that the Marvel Unlimited costs subscriptions are relatively inexpensive is that they are subsidized by the sale of print copies at the local comics shops. If the majority of fans go digital, Marvel would have to increase the subscription fees and/or drastically reduce their output of monthly books; and those comics shops that have supported the industry through thick and thin would find themselves without paper products to sell. Many of these shops have already been struggling, and it won’t take much loss to force many stores to close permanently. Which would suck.

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  • #147270

    Don’t understand how anyone affords comics now.

    It’s really no longer a sustainable model anymore.

    For $4.99, you get 20 pages of story that takes 10-15 minutes to read. That’s ludicrous. The days of buying every book are dead, though I think that’s been dead for quite some time. People are paying that price for DC’s Absolute line, and I understand it to be excellent. But to pay $4.99 per issue of books you like, what books are not being purchased? This isn’t a Marvel vs. DC issue; it’s $4.99 and higher price point vs. how much money you have in your wallet. This decision becomes more relevant the more companies raise their prices.

    Gen X is getting to retirement age. We’re not going to be able to afford the hobby anymore at those prices. As you get closer to that point, you start looking at what you can cut. Comics at that price are an easy choice.

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  • #147288

    End of an era: comics journalism outlet Newsarama gutted by layoffs as final writer exits – Popverse

    After years of cuts, Newsarama has finally gone silent

    The storied comic news site Newsarama is seemingly defunct, after a series of layoffs by parent company Future PLC resulted in the elimination of the last dedicated person working on the website. Long-time Newsarama staff writer George Marson announced earlier this month that they had been laid off earlier this month as part of a broader round of cuts across the journalism & events corporation.

    “After 17 years, I am no longer writing for Newsarama or its associated sites,” writes Marston on Instagram. “I am devastated. My career is my passion. I love what I do, and I loved my job. But I take pride in the fact that 17 years of unbroken work for a single outlet is a rare accomplishment, especially in the comic industry.”

    Newsarama was formally launched in 1998 and quickly became one of the primary places to get news, interviews, and commentary on the North American comic book industry online. The site changed as the comics industry and the digital industries changed, and following a series of acquisitions, it was folded into the comics vertical of the website GamesRadar.com by 2018, while keeping the Newsarama branding, alongside other publications including Total Film and SFX. In the past 12 months however, the Newsarama branding on the GamesRadar.com website was largely eliminated, with the comics coverage remaining left as a secondary vertical and writing efforts minimized to focus primarily on games, film, & TV related to comics.

    At its peak, Newsarama had a full-time staff of three with various additional writers, videographers, and others working in a freelance capacity. That was cut down to two by 2022, and, following his abrupt departure, co-founder Mike Doran was replaced by a general ‘comics editor’ that was shifted soon after to focus (in title and in work) on streaming TV & film, leaving Marston as the sole remaining Newsarama staffer until now.

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  • #147291

    Truly the end of an era.

    Newsarama, Comic Book Resources, and The Pulse (now The Beat) were THE comic news sites. You went to them daily, if not multiple times a day. They were the leaders of the pack.

    It all started to change when Jonah Weiland sold CBR and the site went to shit literally overnight. Then came the rise of social media, which enabled creators and companies to interact directly with readers. Newsarama was sold a few times and the spark was gone. The Beat is still around and plugging on. It feels like the comics news scene is a ghost of what it was. It is very rare that I even go to one nowadays and when I do, it’s usually through a link someone shared.

    RIP Newsarama

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  • #147293

    I genuinely didn’t know Newsarama was still going. I’ve not heard anyone mention it in years.

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  • #147295

    It all started to change when Jonah Weiland sold CBR and the site went to shit literally overnight.

    Technically newsarama beat them to the punch by being shit from the start.

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