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If music be the food of love, let’s eat it.

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  • #98567

    KMFDM SUCKS

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  • #98571

    I can back up my opinion with facts:

    1. Their music is sampled – totally fake. It’d done by machines cause they don’t make mistakes.
    2. They don’t have no lyrics, their message is nil.
    3. Whatever they tell ya, it’s mentally crap.

  • #98588

    I can back up my opinion with facts:

    1. Their music is sampled – totally fake. It’d done by machines cause they don’t make mistakes.
    2. They don’t have no lyrics, their message is nil.
    3. Whatever they tell ya, it’s mentally crap.

    Have some pity for the majority of people that enjoy their music!!

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  • #98612

    Fair points, but it’s not like it’s intended for sober listening!

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  • #98629

    This is a mix of shoegaze and electronica and somehow sounds like the opening to an anime show.

     

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  • #98734

    In case anybody is interested, it’s another Bandcamp Friday.

    https://isitbandcampfriday.com/

     

    This is the day when music selling platform Bandcamp (already the best-paying way for independent artists to sell their music, according to everyone) waives their fees and give 100% of profits to the artists.

    If there’s that new band you’ve been meaning to check out but never got round to it, today’s the day to do it.

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  • #98760

    This works surprisingly well:

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  • #98816

    This is all kinds of wrong.

  • #98959

    I’m 50 years old next year and I was an advert crop up on social media for Harry Styles supported by Wet Leg in the Principality Stadium in Cardiff and really wanted to go.

    In these days of very fragmented music platforms it’s hard to get an entry into point into new stuff unless you are very into a single genre, which I’m not, all my favourite artists cross genres all the time and I tend to like slightly leftfield pop but not the hyper commercial stuff with a hivemind of 27 Swedish songwriters.

    I found Radio 6 Music doing a summary of the Mercury Music prize (which is notoriously eclectic) and there was so much good stuff nominated. The only singer I’d listened to a lot before was Gwenno (who only sings now in Welsh and Cornish) but it introduced me to half a dozen artists I now follow.

     

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  • #98961

    I’m 50 years old next year

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  • #98965

    I don’t understand the joke. I would rather not be that age.

    Is it meant to suggest I am boasting? Weird.

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  • #98967

    Is it meant to suggest I am boasting? Weird.

    I was looking for bragging gifs, yes.

  • #98968

    OK. You think so little of me? Are you back on the drugs? If not, I think my response is ‘fuck off’ as you seem to be searching for a reason to insult me for no reason.

  • #98969

    OK. You think so little of me? Are you back on the drugs? If not, I think my response is ‘fuck off’ as you seem to be searching for a reason to insult me for no reason.

    No, I am not.

    Okay, I’m sorry. I was just trying, lightheartedly, to post a gif in response to your post. But okay, sure.

  • #98971

    There, all better now.

    I’ll tell everyone who vaguely insults someone else to fuck off from now on.

    Here’s a great place to start:

    You think so little of me? Are you back on the drugs?

    Nnnnaaawww, did I hurt the moderators wittwe feewings?

  • #98972

    Nnnnaaawww, did I hurt the moderators wittwe feewings?

    Hey, me you can’t say that shit! Now fuck off!

  • #98973

    Fuck me, you’re right!

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  • #98987

    I’m 50 years old next year and I was an advert crop up on social media for Harry Styles supported by Wet Leg in the Principality Stadium in Cardiff and really wanted to go.

    In these days of very fragmented music platforms it’s hard to get an entry into point into new stuff unless you are very into a single genre, which I’m not, all my favourite artists cross genres all the time and I tend to like slightly leftfield pop but not the hyper commercial stuff with a hivemind of 27 Swedish songwriters.

    I found Radio 6 Music doing a summary of the Mercury Music prize (which is notoriously eclectic) and there was so much good stuff nominated. The only singer I’d listened to a lot before was Gwenno (who only sings now in Welsh and Cornish) but it introduced me to half a dozen artists I now follow.

     

    A few years ago, I started listening to an indie station on satellite radio as I really wanted to hear some new and different music that wasn’t Top 40 pap. I have found a lot of music I truly enjoy that I would not have discovered before. Last year, Chaise Longue from Wet Leg and and was immediately taken with it. I really enjoy their music.

  • #99068

    A few years ago, I started listening to an indie station on satellite radio as I really wanted to hear some new and different music that wasn’t Top 40 pap. I have found a lot of music I truly enjoy that I would not have discovered before. Last year, Chaise Longue from Wet Leg and and was immediately taken with it. I really enjoy their music.

    That is similar to my experience back in the day. REM was big in college radio and in the early 90s was the MTV show “120 Minutes” with all these indie bands (some British) and it was “alternative”, not top 40, and edgy. Then from that genre of music came Nirvana and their video and sound ended the Hair band era and Nirvana and Pearl Jam were like the new mainstream.

    30 years ago though. That era’s nostalgia will come back, and I am patient. I still check out indie stations and bands.

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  • #99099

    This month’s blog post.
    Prog metal, loads of electronica, some shoegaze and other really great music.

    August Music Round Up 2022

  • #100758

    Iron Maiden announce UK, Ireland and Europe tour

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  • #100872

    This is a fun article:

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/oct/06/the-100-greatest-bbc-music-performances-ranked

    The BBC is 100 years old (from its radio beginnings in 1922, the TV started in 1936 and then went on hiatus during the war). So this is a summary of the best exclusive live* performances they’ve shown over the years and Youtube links to them all. Nobody is going to agree with the order, I certainly don’t, so that’s not important but there’s every genre of music there dating from the early 60s to today. They have had exclusive Glastonbury coverage for many years so I guess technically they could add a lot of great stuff there but I get not including that.

    Number 4 has a rather obscure show nobody remembers but the performance from poor Ian Curtis of Joy Division is probably the most intense thing you’ll ever see. His body jerking and eyes set back in his head, it gets repeated a lot.

    * a few are mimed performances on Top of the Pops but are notable for more weird entertaining reasons. I remember watching that TOTP with New Order (no.69) and having several double takes that for some reason the Hoff in full Baywatch setup appeared. Also the Nirvana one (no. 11) where they took the piss out of playing with a backing track and Cobain sings it in a weird Morrissey voice, I always likes that TOTP always showed those however silly they got – despite pretending it was, it wasn’t aired live.

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  • #100941

    I’m not going to quibble, because it’s a bold and probably fair selection even though most of my favourites aren’t there :-)

    The BBC In Concert (radio) series that ran in the late 60s/early 70s was a tremendous live showcase that I don’t think has an equivalent today. Every big name was on it, and you could probably fill a top 100 just with those broadcasts. Many bands have subsequently acquired the rights to their In Concert sets and issued them on disc. Naturally I would recommend the Deep Purple sets from 70 and 72, but possibly even more than that I would recommend tracking down the Led Zeppelin set from 1971. It would have been the first time most people in the UK heard any material from the fourth album. as you can tell when Plant introduces a new song called Stairway to Heaven and the audience gives a smattering of polite applause. I think this was probably the first time I ever heard Led Zeppelin (on a Radio 1 repeat of the programme in the 80s), and the performance blew my mind. The studio albums were a bit of a let down after that.

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  • #100942

    On the Top of the Pops miming thing: it wasn’t necessarily miming to the studio track. I don’t know how widespread the practice was, but in at least some cases a band would go into the studio in the afternoon, record a live (audio) performance, and then mime to that.

    You can see it in this video, Deep Purple from 1970. The recording is clearly not the studio version of the song (trust me on that :-) ), it’s a completely new live performance. But the band is not playing it live on film — watch Ritchie’s fingers, and he’s not playing the guitar solo we hear. His problem is that he improvises solos, and can never remember what he’s played.

  • #100945

    On the Top of the Pops miming thing: it wasn’t necessarily miming to the studio track. I don’t know how widespread the practice was, but in at least some cases a band would go into the studio in the afternoon, record a live (audio) performance, and then mime to that.

    My brother was in a band that got onto Irish TV about 18 years ago and they were given the option then, no reason to expect it’s gone away.

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  • #100947

    From listening to the Chart Music podcast the approach from TOTP has varied a lot over the years of its run. Originally the logistics of setting the sound up for so many bands meant they insisted on miming, some acts would do the Deep Purple approach, then as tech got better they gave the option, at one point in the mid 90s they went the other way and demanded at least live vocals (which with some acts wasn’t always for the best – Dr. Alban managing to rap out of tune was memorable).

    By the last decade or so it was left up to the bands how they wanted to do it.

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  • #100948

    The September music round up. Electronica, indie rock, shoegaze, prog and some metal. It’s been another great month.

     

    September Music Round Up 2022

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  • #100949

    Depeche Mode have announced a new album and tour and they’re doing one of the big open-air gigs at Malahide Castle next year. There are ads up in town now and it’s just a photo of Dave and Martin and that’s so weird.

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  • #100968

    it’s just a photo of Dave and Martin and that’s so weird.

    It really is. :wacko:

    The London tickets start at £85 standing before the fees so that’s a no from me.

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  • #100970

    it’s just a photo of Dave and Martin and that’s so weird.

    It really is. :wacko:

    The London tickets start at £85 standing before the fees so that’s a no from me.

    I can probably get a slot volunteering at the bar if I don’t feel like paying the… checks ticketmaster €80 ticket price.

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  • #100975

    I can probably get a slot volunteering at the bar if I don’t feel like paying the… checks ticketmaster €80 ticket price.

    I’m not sure how things are in Ireland at the moment but there’s no way most people in England have the cash to blow on things like expensive gigs any more. We’re almost £7 a pint for average lager in most pubs at this point :/

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  • #100976

    I don’t think the cost of living crisis is as acute here as it is there, but it’s definitely a concern. No idea how much a pint costs in bars between being a weird hermit and not drinking…

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  • #100978

    Dublin in my experience is pretty bad on the price of a pint, maybe worse than London although not taking into account recent inflation, but aside from that I do think there has been a shift generally in music from making money from recordings to live.

    My first single purchase in the early 1980s was 99p, that’s actually more, not adjusted for inflation,  than it would cost me today to buy on iTunes or similar offerings. Live events though like gigs or sporting tickets have gone through the roof. Gigs I would have paid a tenner for then are ten times that now.

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  • #101046

    Nine Inch Nails Full Show Cleveland in 4k 9/24/2022

    So I guess Reznor and Richard Patrick made up.
    Patrick’s on stage at a NIN show and they’re playing Hey Man Nice Shot.
    Good on them, doubly on Reznor.

    edit to add
    Nice to hear Heresy, and early in the set.
    My negativity just assumes, but there it is.

    and it had Ministry and Nitzer Ebb

    Found an article ‘End of an Era’
    https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/09/nine-inch-nails-marks-end-of-an-era-with-historic-performance.html

    Fuck, wish I was there

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  • #101056

    So I guess Reznor and Richard Patrick made up.
    Patrick’s on stage at a NIN show and they’re playing Hey Man Nice Shot.
    Good on them, doubly on Reznor.

    Yeah, Trent mentioned Richard Patrick during his speech when NIN were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and they appeared there together a couple of weeks ago during a Q&A with a bunch of current and past members of the band

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  • #101316

    Click here for the top 20 biggest selling debut albums. Number 6 will surprise you!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63244820

    I own the #1 album, obviously, because I am totally down with mainstream tastes as you all know. (Can you guess what it is?)

    Deeply unfashionable in the era of disco and punk, it was rejected by four record labels. But when it was finally released in 1977, it became an immediate success in the UK, thanks to an unforgettable performance on BBC TV show The Old Grey Whistle Test.

  • #101317

    I have exactly one album from that list.

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  • #101321

    I have exactly one album from that list.

    Yeah obviously, but within that band which Spice Girl is your favourite?

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  • #101322

    Mel B, of course

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  • #101328

    I have exactly one album from that list.

    I have three. Because you are clearly out of touch with mainstream taste, not with it like me.

    I am tuned in and switched on.

    In short, I am a happening guy.

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  • #101339

    I have two, not so happening but more than Lorcan.

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  • #101340

    I’ve been trying to work out which one Lorcan’s is, and none of them fit what I know of him. Best I can come up with is Scissor Sisters :unsure:

     

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  • #101342

    The only one from that list I own is GnR’s Appetite for Destruction, and I dont remember the last time I listened to it.

    Edit: unless I listened to it yesterday and the Alzheimers has finally kicked in.
    How would I know?

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  • #101345

    I’ve been trying to work out which one Lorcan’s is, and none of them fit what I know of him. Best I can come up with is Scissor Sisters :unsure:

     

    Incorrect! It’s Jagged little Pill.

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  • #101347

    The only one from that list I own is GnR’s Appetite for Destruction, and I dont remember the last time I listened to it.

    Edit: unless I listened to it yesterday and the Alzheimers has finally kicked in.
    How would I know?

    Do your arms feel tired from playing air guitar for 53 minutes solid? If not, you probably didn’t listen to it yesterday.

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  • #101349

    I’ve been trying to work out which one Lorcan’s is, and none of them fit what I know of him. Best I can come up with is Scissor Sisters :unsure:

     

    One of mine is Scissor Sisters, the other is Tubular Bells.

    Since as the article says high CD sales at the time means there’s a lot of 90s stuff I have absorbed a couple more by osmosis in my college days. Jagged Little Pill and Definitely Maybe were on constant rotation so I know all the tracks on them.

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  • #101359

    I have two albums from the list:
    – Dido, No Angel
    – Norah Jones, Come Away With Me

  • #101366

    Fun Fact: Dido’s brother is known as Rollo professionally and is most known for being the main guy behind the band Faithless although he’s even quite anonymous there, I couldn’t point him out in a police lineup.

    He pretty much invented a very ‘hands in the air’ brand of house music around 92/93 that just builds and builds, expanding on the original Chicago house stuff that was moodier and not quite as driven by the adrenaline (or MDMA) rush. Recording under the names Felix and O.T. Quartet (early house guys in the UK all changed their name every record, Norman Cook has charted under 8 different names). With O.T Quartet he even spells out what he is doing with ‘builds like a skyscraper’ to describe the mix.

    That synth build is hugely influential on pop music today which both sides of the Atlantic heavily uses house ticks of that period so while barely anyone knows who he is his legacy is actually much bigger than his sister’s who mostly sang pretty middle of the road ballads and one rap crossover with Eminem (which to be fair is a very good song).

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  • #101374

    I am tuned in and switched on.

    In short, I am a happening guy.

    Is that you, AL-X?!

    I’m not ashamed to admit I own 9 of the 20 albums on that list — 1, 4, 7, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17 and 20. No regrets, though I only picked up the Keane album (#7) because they were the opening act for a U2 concert I attended.

  • #101377

    Surprised not more people had Jagged Little Pill… even I used to own that at some point =P

  • #101423

    I am tuned in and switched on.

    In short, I am a happening guy.

    Is that you, AL-X?!

    I’m not ashamed to admit I own 9 of the 20 albums on that list — 1, 4, 7, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17 and 20. No regrets, though I only picked up the Keane album (#7) because they were the opening act for a U2 concert I attended.

    I should have trademarked that…. Then again, it wasn’t mine to begin with. 🤣

    And NO… Not all that all over again! 🤣🤣🤣

    I see this article on Nicki Minaj and this back and forth Twitter feud with someone else:

    https://blavity.com/nicki-minaj-grammy-age-shaming-feud-latto-social-media-twitter?category1=entertainment&category2=news&fbclid=IwAR1rb3zb7gbp9rC4FLvue93OCNia92YUcQuFDob1iwJxBS0rUxx9yJOQx3M

    Not that I care for her  (defended her husband who r*ped in his teen age years, attacked and tried to pay hush money to the victim… Loves to “differentiate” herself being Carribean from African Americans for all the good that does her), but with regards to the Grammys, she said that she is being put in the pop categories more where the old (ignorant) Grammy voters will have to choose between her and a Harry Styles or an Adele. She implied the Grammys want her to win less.

    Remember the Grammys are the ones of Jethro Tul over Metallica fame and let’s not forget MacClemore.  🤣

    Fwiw… I can give a huge list of black and BIPOC entertainers and celebs that I can’t stand, but that is another story.

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  • #102500

    Watching these football and baseball games and the crowd sometimes chant the old “7 Nation Army” riff by the White Stripes.

    ———

    Never did get into The Killers or Imagine Dragons music

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  • #102586

    It’s just occurred to me that I’ve probably never heard the original piano version of that before.

    I think Ravel’s orchestral version works much better, to be honest.

    And ELP’s version, of course :yahoo:

     

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  • #102695

    New month, new blog.

    October Music Round up 2022

    We have post rock / goth, electronica, screamo, indie / shoegaze and other stuff. It’s been an incredible month.

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  • #102744

    Always enjoy these monthly write ups.

    I heard the Bicep song on the radio earlier in the week. I didn’t recognise who it was so had to Shazam it.

    I tried a few tracks on the Bolts album after the mention of Four Tet but it qas a bit too out there for.

    I’ve also downloaded the AA Williams and Knifeplay albums for future listening.

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  • #102748

    Watching these football and baseball games and the crowd sometimes chant the old “7 Nation Army” riff by the White Stripes.

    My department’s office/staff base is directly across the centre quadrangle from the music department. I’ve heard that song being played with varying degrees of success by teenagers over the years. It has very much taken the joy out of the song for me.

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  • #102762

    Always enjoy these monthly write ups.

    I heard the Bicep song on the radio earlier in the week. I didn’t recognise who it was so had to Shazam it.

    I tried a few tracks on the Bolts album after the mention of Four Tet but it qas a bit too out there for.

    I’ve also downloaded the AA Williams and Knifeplay albums for future listening.

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    Thanks for the kind words, it really means a lot to me that anyone reads it. 😄

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  • #102930

    Watching these football and baseball games and the crowd sometimes chant the old “7 Nation Army” riff by the White Stripes.

    My department’s office/staff base is directly across the centre quadrangle from the music department. I’ve heard that song being played with varying degrees of success by teenagers over the years. It has very much taken the joy out of the song for me.

    There are definitely songs I objectively think are good but cannot enjoy any more because of overplay.

    I can’t listen to Hotel California or American Pie, they make my head hurt and they are good songs but I think you hit that Chinese water torture moment with anything that gets played endlessly. I’m a big Prince fan but I get the same with Purple Rain, I can derive no enjoyment from that song. When I watch old Prince concerts and stuff like his Superbowl show, he often ends with that song and I enjoy up to that point and then press ‘stop’.

  • #102960

    Whenever Deep Purple fans discuss setlists, I always say I’d be happy if they left Black Night off for once, they play it every single gig, I’m bored with it, just give it a rest.

    As soon as the riff starts in the gig, I’m like WOOOO! YES! BLACK NIGHT! WOOOOOO! :yahoo:

    For similar reason, I will never tire of hearing somebody spin something like American Pie. Yes, I’ve heard it a million times, but there’s a reason why these songs are played so often. I still smile every time I hear it.

     

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  • #103016

    So catching up on SNL last night, I was exposed to an artist I’ve never heard of (not uncommon with SNL now – the sweet spot for me having heard of the musical guests was early 90s to late 00s) but this one was actually really good. Willow, who… well, the tracks she did on the show I’d have called heavy metal, but listening to the album on Spotify now, it’s more varied and harder to pin down. The best comparison I can think of is a hard rock Marina and the Diamonds, maybe?

  • #103022

    It’s Will Smith’s daughter I think? I have heard curious/furious and it’s nowhere near what I would call heavy metal, so I guess she has some stylistic range at least.

  • #103670

    Xmas songs…No

    Mariah Carey
    George Michael
    War is Over
    Feed the World

    For now, just
    Grandma got run over by a reindeer 🤣

  • #103694

    I’ve started playing Christmas music already. I wouldn’t normally start this early, but I just got the Mediaeval Baebes new album, and it’s a Christmas album:

  • #103794

    I’ve been following a few a few female Scottish artists over the past year or so and through them came across Becca Starr – a Scottish rapper/singer. I’ve really been enjoying her album over the past few days and while I do enjoy the novelty of a Scottish voice rapping I think it’s a genuinely great listen.



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  • #103795

    Oh! It appears we can embed Spotify albums on the board. Neato!

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  • #103797

    Oh I like that, I’ll follow Becca. In a world where most singers centre on some pseudo-American accent I love artists that buck the trend. Be it The Proclaimers or Cerys Matthews, Bjork , Dolores O’Riordan or even Chas and Dave it adds so much.

    On a related note, here’s a black guy rapping in Welsh.

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  • #103814

    There’s an app that takes your Spotify streams and creates a fake festival bill based on which bands you’ve listened to most. I don’t use Spotify but being a nerd I write down every album I listen to. So I made my own festival poster without needed no fancy app (Well, apart from Excel and Word.)

    fest

    I’m rather proud of having an almost perfectly gender-balanced* bill. Try finding that at any major festival.

     

    . * Well, possibly short on trans representation, though I don’t actually know for sure.

  • #103817

    So I just did the app and got this as my festival. I’m sure loads of people will want to come to the… Industrial and J-pop festival.

    Unholy-Space

    I do have some trans rep but does it count if they’re a real-world friend of mine?

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  • #103825

    but being a nerd I write down every album I listen to.

    You should try Last.fm. It’s a free service and logs your listening. You can get lots of pointless stats about the music you listen to.

    https://www.last.fm/

    Here’s my most listened to bands of the 6 years I’ve been using it.

    last

     

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  • #103828

    Anyway. New month, new blog post.

    November Music Round Up 2022

    We have Korean trad crossed with post rock. Thinking about it, we have a lot of post rock. We have prog metal, some great electronica and a smidge of jazz.

    We apologise for the prog and jazz :scratch:

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  • #104063

    December is a busy auld time when you do music reviews. This is the ep’s and singles of the year.

    We have electronica, metal and other odds and sods.

     

    EPs and singles 2022

     

    Next up the albums of the year, when I’ve finished writing the bloody thing B-)

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  • #104136

    I’ve taken to watching old TOTP episodes randomly appearing on Youtube.

    This 1984 one was amusing as it’s my kind of era when I first got into music but it’s not good at all.

    There are 3 ratings.

    Decent: Bananarama and Ray Parker Junior.

    Absolute genius: Bronski Beat’s Smalltown Boy.

    Shite: Everything else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASI8dvqbg_o

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  • #104150

    I’ve taken to watching old TOTP episodes randomly appearing on Youtube.

    This 1984 one was amusing as it’s my kind of era when I first got into music but it’s not good at all.

    There are 3 ratings.

    Decent: Bananarama and Ray Parker Junior.

    Absolute genius: Bronski Beat’s Smalltown Boy.

    Shite: Everything else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASI8dvqbg_o

    Having watched the episode, I’d put Ultravox and Flying Pickets in the Decent category as well, but yeah, there’s some serious novelty crap going on between Neil and the theme from Auf Wiedersehen, Pet being there.

    I did find it amusing that they were using Yellow Pearl by Phil Lynott as the theme at that point, and Slade were on. One of Phil’s mum’s favourite anecdotes about him was that one of Thin Lizzy’s first big gigs was supporting Slade and the crowd hated them, but within a year Lizzy were playing the same venue as the headline act and Slade were the support.

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  • #104153

    Even though I actually bought that single at the time I am a bit torn on the Flying Pickets because it is a novelty cover of a really great song by Yazoo so it can’t be bad but it is a much worse version.

    I agree Ultravox is decent too, I just forgot about it. 😏

    I generally love Slade but that ‘My Oh My’ song is a proper annoying dirge.

    Yellow Pearl was the theme for 5 years 1981-86. I also found this video of the all their intros from 1964 to today (as the show still comes out twice a year) and it’s quite amusing how unrelated a lot of the opening images were in the late 60s ones. People riding helicopters and cars exploding. In the 70’s it’s just pretty women looking fashionable, by the 80s it has moved to ‘flashy’ computer graphics and get progressively shorter and shorter until it’s just a 10 second sting.

    I have to admit the most recent drum and bass influenced version of Whole Lotta Love is probably my favourite.

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  • #104193

    I’ve taken to watching old TOTP episodes randomly appearing on Youtube.

    This 1984 one was amusing as it’s my kind of era when I first got into music but it’s not good at all.

    There are 3 ratings.

    Decent: Bananarama and Ray Parker Junior.

    Absolute genius: Bronski Beat’s Smalltown Boy.

    Shite: Everything else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASI8dvqbg_o

    Are you kidding? Ultravox and Slade! (Though admittedly not the finest offering from either band.) I also liked The Flying Pickets, they had a nive sound and that was a great arrangement.

    But… Neil!!!! :yahoo:

    I actually bought Neil’s Heavy Concept Album back in the day. It really wasn’t very good.

    You might be surprised to find I agree with you, Bronski Beat is the cream of the crop there.

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  • #104194

    Last night’s gig in York: Mostly Autumn’s home-town Christmas show. Always the highlight of the year, and the official start to my Christmas :yahoo:

    This is an older show, but the spirit is the same…

    A cover of Fairytale of New York in the encores used the original words. Though a look that passed between the singers after *that* line suggests they intended to change it and forgot!

  • #104202

    You might be surprised to find I agree with you, Bronski Beat is the cream of the crop there.

    Nah, we may have slightly different musical slants but you know what works.

    As well as being a banging tune it was also an incredibly fucking brave song and video to make in 1985.

    Chart Music’s latest podcast had me enjoying that randomness of TOTP. A 1980 episode presented (for the first time) by Timmy Vance it had a lot of rock for our Tommy. Whitesnake, Saxon and Motorhead, mixed in with The Nolans and Dexy’s at number one.

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  • #104216

    My end of year write up. What a great year for music!

     

    Albums of the year 2022

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  • #104219

    Tenacious D performing an incredible cover of Wicked Game

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  • #104528

    The Specials, they were special.

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  • #105285

    I don’t really care much about the “vinyl revival” but I thought this was an interesting piece about the massive slowdown in its growth in 2022.

    (I’ve got the whole thing because it’s on a subscriber exclusive Substack and meh)

    A few months ago, I wrote about returning to vinyl after giving up on it 34 years ago.

    But I was shocked at what I encountered. Few of the albums I wanted were available in vinyl. Prices were outrageously high. The whole market seemed designed to discourage buyers.

    I’d heard so many grand claims for the vinyl resurgence, but the reality was tremendously disappointing. And I was a late adopter—the revival had been going on for a decade, but record labels still didn’t have their act together.

    In my case, I ended up buying vinyl albums, but mostly used ones. I simply couldn’t find new pressings of the records I wanted. This was fine for me, but lousy for musicians and labels—who make no money on the sale of a secondhand vinyl album.

    I have some experience in these matters—in my alternative career I worked with CEOs chasing after fast growth product categories. I know how they handle these situations. But, really, it’s no mystery. The strategies you use in this kind of business are very straightforward:

    (1) You add manufacturing capacity aggressively—to make sure you have enough product to fuel growth.

    (2) You bring down costs by getting scale advantages. But this only happens because unit costs drop as volume increases. So the single biggest goal is to grow sales as hard and fast as possible.

    (3) You constantly reduce prices to keep demand building. In some cases, you even set prices below your costs to accelerate growth rates. When I originally saw companies do this I was skeptical—how can you make profits if you sell below your costs? But I soon learned that you eventually got a huge payback.

    (4) You keep expanding the product line, so that you constantly have something new and exciting to sell to every potential buyer.

    (5) You invest in R&D so that you eventually have a next generation technology to keep the growth going over the long haul.

    None of this is easy to do, but it isn’t impossible. It just takes investment, focus, management commitment, and hard work. And later you reap the benefits. You turn a small business into a huge one, and enjoy a big payday.

    The record labels could have done that with vinyl. It was taking off—unit sales doubled in just 5 years. And these sales were insanely profitable, because much of the demand was for old music. So labels didn’t even have to pay to sign artists, and cover the costs of recording sessions. The music was already there, with the fixed costs amortized long ago.

    They just had to press the bloody album and ship it to the store. How hard is that?

    But what did the music industry do?

    They hate running factories—which is hard work. So they tried to outsource manufacturing instead of building it themselves. Chronic shortages resulted.

    They refuse to spend money on R&D, so they stayed with the same vinyl technology from the 1950s. In other words, the record business became the only entertainment industry in the world with no plan for technological innovation. In the year 2023, even bowling alleys, bordellos, and bookies are more tech savvy than the major record labels.

    They want easy money, so they kept prices extremely high. That was bizarre because their R&D and catalog acquisition costs were essentially zero, and they could have priced vinyl aggressively. Instead they treated vinyl as a luxury product, even as they dreamed of it also becoming a mass market option. But you can’t do both without a careful market segmentation strategy—which the labels never even started thinking about.

    They love hype, so they focused on high visibility vinyl reissues, which look good in press releases, but couldn’t be bothered to make back catalog albums available. After a decade of the vinyl revival, they still hadn’t taken even basic steps in offering a wide product line.

    This is a lazy strategy—and the exact opposite of what they should have done. And the results are, of course, predictable.

    Here’s what I predicted in my article 11 months ago.

    The level of greed is off the charts. Because it’s so hard to make money in music nowadays, the labels have decided to squeeze as much cash as they can from vinyl fans. This is one area where Spotify and Apple don’t call the shots, so why not charge twenty dollars for vinyl? Or maybe thirty dollars is better. Hell, let’s ask for forty, and see who will buy?

    In other words, a technology that is 70 years old—and in which labels have invested almost zero additional dollars—is priced as if it’s a hot new innovation requiring billions of dollars in startup capital. This is like taking your old shoes, and trying to sell them for twenty times what you paid for them.

    In a market where retro is hot, you might get away with this—at least for a short time. Some of my readers will probably respond: Well, if Taylor Swift fans are willing to pay forty bucks, it’s a perfectly fair price. That may be true, but it’s still a stupid price—because the vinyl revival won’t become a mass market phenomenon at these prices. I’ve spent a lot of time over the years studying the economics of pricing, and will tell you with absolute confidence that what record labels are doing right now will eventually be taught in business schools as a case study in mistaken priorities.

    And now all this is starting to happen. Last week Luminate released its end-of-year figures for the music market.

    Despite all the hype, vinyl album unit sales only grew 4%. I’ve heard some people praising this in silly news stories about the continued growth in vinyl.

    But those numbers are a HUGE disappointment.

    Just a year ago, the industry was bragging about a vinyl market that had doubled in size in a single year. In just 12 months, demand had increased from 21.4 to 41.7 million units.

    But then in 2022, the growth rate collapsed from 95% to 4%. That’s not a slowdown—that’s slamming on the brakes right before you hit the brick wall.

    Check out the trend line—which tells you immediately that the amazing growth spurt of the last few years is now over.

    And if it wasn’t for Taylor Swift, the vinyl market would have actually declined in 2022. This one artist did more to support vinyl sales than the much hyped “Record Store Days.”

    But here’s an even more ominous sign. Half of vinyl buyers don’t own a record player. They apparently bought the Taylor Swift album as a kind of memorabilia—something a little nicer than a band T-shirt.

    This can’t be a good thing for the record business. After all, how many records are you going to buy if you don’t have a turntable? This is like trying to sell Teslas as a status symbol to people who don’t drive.

    Maybe some brilliant minds at the major labels are already thinking ahead to the next fad—the supposed cassette tape revival.

    But those folks are blowing smoke. Cassette sales are minuscule. Despite all the hype, they are still below a half million units—roughly the streams The Weeknd gets over a weekend.

    Here’s the bottom line on album sales in all formats (physical and digital). The tiny growth in vinyl and cassettes isn’t even enough to compensate for the drop in digital album purchases.

    On an aggregate level, consumers are simply not buying music. They prefer to stream it for pennies rather than purchase it for dollars.

    As these figures make clear, vinyl has stalled out around the size of the moribund compact disk market.

    I guess it could be worse—but it couldn’t be much worse. The music industry took its fastest growing segment and killed it through greed and laziness.

    If they had followed the standard playbook for growth industries (outlined above), they could have brought vinyl back as a mass market option. They might have easily convinced 40-50 million consumers to buy a dozen vinyl albums per year. That would create a total market more than 10 times as large as the current one.

    In that kind of world, musicians would benefit. Record stores would thrive. Fan loyalty would increase. And record labels would have more cash for themselves and a legitimate way of making money that doesn’t rely on Silicon Valley technocrats and hostile streaming platforms.

    In short, the culture would be healthier.

    Maybe this can still happen. But once you blow an opportunity like this, you rarely get a second chance.

    For my part, I have zero confidence in the people who made this mess in the first place. Nothing will get fixed until they’re replaced by visionaries who can actually lead the music business in the right direction.

    Sometimes those people emerge—as I recently reported with Barnes & Noble, where a new leader at the top reversed course and fixed longstanding problems. And I know that people like that exist in the music world. I’ve even met some of them—but not in executive suite of any major label.

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  • #105386

    A few months ago, I wrote about returning to vinyl after giving up on it 34 years ago.

    But I was shocked at what I encountered. Few of the albums I wanted were available in vinyl. Prices were outrageously high. The whole market seemed designed to discourage buyers.

    This is false thinking and/or bad memory.

    Deep Purple’s Made in Japan had a retail price of £3.25 in 1972 (we know this because it had a big, ugly sticker on the cover). Run that through an inflation calculator and that’s around £55 today. Amazon will sell me the 2014 vinyl reissue for £33.25.

    Vinyl is relatively cheap today. The guy writing this has just been spoiled by decades of under-priced CDs and (worse) downloads.

    Edit: I should say that I like and agree with his article overall. I just think he’s wrong on the cost to the consumer.

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  • #105565

    “Reaction videos” are huge on Youtube but I love that this one shows nobody in any demographic cannot help but love ‘Ace Of Spades’ by Motorhead.

    It’s a simple but unrelenting poke at perfection, you could stick me in a room with classical, indie and pop geniuses, you aren’t beating this.

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  • #105572

    “Reaction videos” are huge on Youtube but I love that this one shows nobody in any demographic cannot help but love ‘Ace Of Spades’ by Motorhead.

    It’s a simple but unrelenting poke at perfection, you could stick me in a room with classical, indie and pop geniuses, you aren’t beating this.

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  • #105719

    @GARJONES

    Some Grammy winners have been announced and I think you will be happy. I know I am!

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  • #105735

    Some Grammy winners have been announced and I think you will be happy. I know I am!

    Nice to see some songs/albums on the list that I actually listened to last year.

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  • #105746

    My monthy round up is back. This is Dec and Jan.

    Loads of great music again, from ambient, to dancefloor fillers to some crushingly heavy slow death.

     

    Music roundup, December and January 2023

  • #106050

    I stumbled on this on Youtube. It is apparently Nirvana’s first ever TV performance anywhere, on a UK show called The Word which was a provocative programme by design. I would have been 18 when this went out and almost certainly watched it live. The Word was a post pub staple you’d watch half drunk on a Friday and Kurt Cobain proclaiming Courtney Love to be the ‘best fuck in the world’ was the kind of material they wanted. To rile up the ‘moral majority’ and get good ratings.

    When L7 were on the singer dropped her trousers and underpants and sang naked and they loved it. It got more contrived after a while with a section called ‘The Hopefuls’ which was about getting people to do extreme things like a 20 year old French kissing an 80 year old woman and ebbed away after that. Everything is better when it is more organic.

     

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  • #106064

    The Word was such an amazing show at it’s height. I actually saw a really good documentary about Nirvana and their time in the UK last year that went into a lot of detail about the trip over where they got booked to appear. And hey, I found it quickly on YouTube

    In the relevant to Gar’s interests, Trash Theory’s latest video is all about Wet Leg:

  • #106065

    I actually saw a really good documentary about Nirvana and their time in the UK last year that went into a lot of detail about the trip over where they got booked to appear.

    They played a venue called TJ’s in Newport on that first visit and the number of people I have seen who said they were at that gig (TJ’s was a nightclub with a capacity of 400) is similar to the 250,000 that claim to have been at the Manchester Free Trade Hall to see the Sex Pistols.

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  • #106066

    I actually saw a really good documentary about Nirvana and their time in the UK last year that went into a lot of detail about the trip over where they got booked to appear.

    They played a venue called TJ’s in Newport on that first visit and the number of people I have seen who said they were at that gig (TJ’s was a nightclub with a capacity of 400) is similar to the 250,000 that claim to have been at the Manchester Free Trade Hall to see the Sex Pistols.

    So I did see them live, but at least I saw them in a 6000-capacity venue so people don’t look at you sideways in the same way.

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  • #106117

    The funny thing is a few of them will be genuine but the maths don’t add up overall for all of them.

    In my hometown in the early 80s there was a local nightclub of a similar size that had a good band booker and the list of bands is pretty insane, 8 years or so before I was old enough to go to clubs but I knew guys a few years older who had been to them all.

    The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Psychedelic Furs, Simple Minds, Adam and the Ants and The Pretenders all played these tiny gigs there.

    Just before I moved to Malaysia I was frequenting the Barfly in Cardiff which was even smaller than those two, more a pub size or 150 at most. Barfly was a chain that arranged tours to each venue and I saw Kings of Leon, Keane and Scissor Sisters there just before they broke big. In the 90s I saw Oasis and The Prodigy in Panama Joe’s nightclub, although that was quite a big one, closer to 1000 capacity. These clubs don’t seem to exist in the same way now looking from afar, when I go back they are ‘being closed down’ as The Specials would sing.

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  • #106120

    I have actually been to TJs in Newport, 20+ years ago. No idea if it still exists today. I remember it being pretty tiny.

    There are still plenty of small music clubs around, but it does seem that every few weeks you hear of another “legendary” club venue closing down. The lockdowns were a big factor in killing a lot of them, but it has been happening for longer than that. Live music is barely financially viable now, for bands or for venues. There’s a popular myth that album sales don’t matter any more because bands make their money off tours, but unless you’re someone like Beyonce or Elton John the exact opposite is true. Small bands need to shift albums or they can’t afford to tour (that’s also one reason why physical media aren’t going away — it’s much harder to sell a download at the merch desk).

     

  • #106122

    Yeah, Ministry had to cancel their European Tour in November because one festival got cancelled and the whole tour was no longer viable.

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