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I somehow managed to never watch The World’s Ende until yesterday. It was awesome. I’d probably rate it higher than Hot Fuzz and just below Shaun.
I adore The World’s End and it’s my favourite but it is also basically made for me. Pegg and Frost are a tiny bit older than me, the 90s soundtrack is exactly what I listened to at that age, the questions about ageing/maturing (as they are not the same thing) exactly what me and my mates face today.
Objectively Shaun is the best film but sometimes things just hit a very personal chord.
This is something that Wright/Pegg/Frost have always done well, making you feel like their stuff is pitched for you specifically. I felt exactly the same about Spaced at the time, and to a slightly lesser extent Shaun.
Watched the first episode of the Brave New World series tonight. It’s ok, and reimagines some of the ideas from the book in interesting ways, but it felt a bit bland and straightforward.
Hopefully they can tease out more complexity and depth in future now the setup is out of the way.
I hadn’t heard that, but of course the trades that the rival gangs would make in order to maintain the peace between them reminded me of my favorite issue of Kirby’s NEW GODS.
It made all the rounds on the usual comic clickbait sites, and yeah I was skeptical too, but then the first couple of episodes even almost quote THE PACT issue verbatim, and how Josto and Gaetano are basically the analogues for Kalibak, and etc. It’s fun to really see it play out, reminds me of the Fifth World Dark Side Club stuff Morrison did.
I somehow managed to never watch The World’s Ende until yesterday. It was awesome. I’d probably rate it higher than Hot Fuzz and just below Shaun.
Oh man, I love The World’s End….to a point. For 99% of it, it’s basically my favorite of the trilogy. I just found it so damn heartening, and engaging, and sobering…and not in small part cause of how I related to some of the more mature topics it handled. So damn good. But then the last 2 minutes kinda ruin it for me. I’d rank it as a close second to Hot Fuzz on my personal chart though.
Ooh, the prequel/sequel isn’t that good, but you should watch it just for Young Harry’s Waterloo number. It’s delightful.
I adore The World’s End and it’s my favourite but it is also basically made for me. Pegg and Frost are a tiny bit older than me, the 90s soundtrack is exactly what I listened to at that age, the questions about ageing/maturing (as they are not the same thing) exactly what me and my mates face today.
Yeah, same here. When the soundtrack really went into This Corrision in the credits, I just had to sing along.
This is something that Wright/Pegg/Frost have always done well, making you feel like their stuff is pitched for you specifically. I felt exactly the same about Spaced at the time, and to a slightly lesser extent Shaun.
Watching Shaun for the first time was a kind of visceral shock to me, because it felt exactly like this was the movie I always wanted to make, that I’d always talked about making with my friends. Only better. It was amazing.
Oh man, I love The World’s End….to a point. For 99% of it, it’s basically my favorite of the trilogy. I just found it so damn heartening, and engaging, and sobering…and not in small part cause of how I related to some of the more mature topics it handled. So damn good. But then the last 2 minutes kinda ruin it for me. I’d rank it as a close second to Hot Fuzz on my personal chart though.
I get that. It didn’t spoil anything for me, but damn that was a weird ending.
This is something that Wright/Pegg/Frost have always done well, making you feel like their stuff is pitched for you specifically.
I think this only true if you are in the “demographic” it’s pitched at (or, less cynically, are roughly the same age as them). I remember watching Shaun of the Dead when it came out and thinking “I’m at least half a generation or more too young for this movie”. Which isn’t to say it’s bad, but… well, Hot Fuzz is better.
I think that’s fair Martin. I mean you can always get it, I love stuff like Booksmart about Gen Z teens in America so you don’t have to directly relate to enjoy something but Dave and I are of the same generation as Frost and Pegg and I think listening to Primal Scream’s ‘Loaded’ behind middle aged pals meeting up will have that specific resonance for us.
Hot Fuzz actually has a lot of nods to 70s and 80s film and TV but I think they are less specific than the cultural references in the other two films so it works whether you get them or not.
Hot Fuzz actually has a lot of nods to 70s and 80s film and TV but I think they are less specific than the cultural references in the other two films so it works whether you get them or not.
Hmm, although thinking about it, the local flavour to Hot Fuzz probably does for me what the generational stuff in Shaun does for your generation.
Ooh, the prequel/sequel isn’t that good, but you should watch it just for Young Harry’s Waterloo number. It’s delightful.
I’ve been avoiding the sequel for no apparent reason. Might have to remedy that. :)
I watched Mamma Mia: Here we go again, and this movie is so incredibly inferior to the original I regret watching it altogether.
Mama Mia: Here We Go Again is a fucking amazing movie title though
Yeah, apparently some swedish electro-funk band incorporated it into one of their songs.
Yeah, apparently some swedish electro-funk band incorporated it into one of their songs.
My my
I could tolerate a third movie only if they use the greatest possible subtitle of an ABBA song, Mama Mia: Put On Your White Sombrero.
I could tolerate a third movie only if they use the greatest possible subtitle of an ABBA song, Mama Mia: Put On Your White Sombrero.
Mamma Mia: Super Trouper. It’s a reboot into a war story.
They could complete the trilogy with Mamma Mia: I’ve Made Up My Mind, It Must Come To An End.
They could complete the trilogy with Mamma Mia: I’ve Made Up My Mind, It Must Come To An End.
Meryl Streep and her shotgun in action.
This week’s episode of Archer, “The Double Date”, was hilarious. The series feels like it did in the early seasons while exploring the new status quo.
Sorry if this is a double post, but I think the board ate it when I edited it.
I watched the first episode of Sky History’s new reality competition type thing The Chop last night. It’s essentially The Great British Axe Off – a load of amateur woodworkers competing to make wooden things and be deemed the best. Nothing that’s going to change your life, a nice bit of fun.
It’s a bit weird though, because it has two presenters. Not really a pair or presenters, but two separate presenters. Safe pair of hands Rick Edwards does most of what you’d expect a presenter to do on these kinds of show – he introduces the tasks, he talks with the judge/expert about the criterai, interacts with the contestants, wanders around as they’re working to get a sense of what’s happening etc. But the actual programme is presented and narrated by comedian Lee Mack. It’s like an extra layer of presentation that’s been moulded over the top of the finished product. There are some bits where Mack meets the people from the show – there are weird little chats he has with individual contestants to get to know them and pad things out and there’s one scene at the end of the first day where he goes into the forest and meets up with Rick and the judge guy, but that all seems completely disconnected from the rest of the show. I’m not convinced it wasn’t filmed later and added in. It’s a bit like those imported Sentai shows, where they use footage from two different series and marry it up with new stuff and hope you don’t notice the gaps. Did the producers have Edwards do it all originally and then lose confidence so call in Mack for reshoots? It’s kind of bizarre.
Anyway, the core wood-working competition bits are fine if you can get past the production oddities.
Watched The Trial of the Chicago 7 this afternoon and loved it. It’s not the most nuanced of stories in Aaron Sorkin’s hands, with a few too many cut-and-dried good-guys and bad-guys, but it’s a shamelessly entertaining trial movie, with so many punch-the-air moments my arm was getting tired. With such a dearth of quality entertainment around in The Year That Covid Stole, though, it felt as satisfying as a five course meal.
Sooo I watched Helstrom… so you guys don’t have to xD
Yeah it’s as bland and mediocre as it looked in the trailers… it’s 10 episodes long and that was like 5 episodes longer than it needed to be, and I’m being generous. I don’t expect it to get a 2nd season…
The Dark Knight is on. background, but I keep coming back and staring at the screen.
I love this, and the reason why I haven’t done a ton of re-watches is that it’s pretty thick. You are in from beginning to end so you have to be in right frame of mind (with time) to pick.
Now it’s on I wish I just changed plans and picked my option without commercials.
“Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
Aha! I knew it was from somewhere! Ronnie said that to me.
Someone with his number give him a good drunken ‘love you man’ call from me.
I’ve been watching a series called Evil which seems to have crept in without any fanfare but is actually pretty good.
The premise is that a trainee Catholic priest (Mike “Luke Cage” Colter) and his team (a forensic psychologist and a tech expert) is sent out by the Church to investigate cases of suspected miracles or demonic activity (so far we’ve had resurrection, possession, haunting) to see if they are really what they claim or just hoaxes.
The characters are good, and the stories are cleverly done, quite creepy but in a psychological way not a gross-out-horror way. And though they always find a mundane explanation, you (the viewer) are always left being not *totally* sure… (Disclaimer: I’m only four episodes in, so if the certainty of proof changes later don’t spoil me. I actually hope they never “prove” anything, as it works better like this.)
It’s episodic (with a few ongoing sub-plots) so you can jump in at any time. I recommend it.
Specific spoiler for the end of episode 4 which I watched last night: Holy cow that end scene was devastating. When the mother says the boy is “missing”, I just knew they had killed him, and when it cuts to the team’s faces and you realise they are thinking the same thing, and can’t do a damned thing about it, that was doubly tragic.
I’ve been watching a series called Evil which seems to have crept in without any fanfare but is actually pretty good.
Yeah, this one flew under the radar despite getting solid reviews. My wife just started watching it; I guess CBS released it to streaming services to build up interest in the upcoming second season.
I watched the first episode of Sky History’s new reality competition type thing The Chop last night. It’s essentially The Great British Axe Off – a load of amateur woodworkers competing to make wooden things and be deemed the best. Nothing that’s going to change your life, a nice bit of fun.
So this has been a topic of debate on Twitter today because it turns out that one of the contestants, Darren, is possibly a Neo-Nazi. He’s absolutely covered in facial tattoos and most people (including me) took one glance at all that and didn’t look any closer, some sharper people noticed that a lot of them are Neo-Nazi references – 88 on one cheek, “homegrown” on his lower lip and 23/16 (apparently code for “WP” ie “white power”) on his temples.
Meet the Woodman, the Bloke-With-All-The-Tattoos or Darren as we like to call him. #TheChop pic.twitter.com/uLdSRPr1S8
— Sky HISTORY (@HISTORYUK) October 19, 2020
One would be maybe coincidence and possible to explain away (as Sky History have done with the 88, saying Darren got it because his dad died in 1988) but three of them breaks the bounds of believability. And either way, it’s not a great look for the History Channel of all people to not spot Nazi references, given how much of their programming is about Nazis.
So this has been a topic of debate on Twitter today because it turns out that one of the contestants, Darren, is possibly a Neo-Nazi. He’s absolutely covered in facial tattoos and most people (including me) took one glance at all that and didn’t look any closer, some sharper people noticed that a lot of them are Neo-Nazi references – 88 on one cheek, “homegrown” on his lower lip and 23/16 (apparently code for “WP” ie “white power”) on his temples.
Not surprisingly, that Tweet is now deleted.
I watched Totally Under Control this afternoon, Alex Gibney’s documentary about Trump’s disastrous response to the coronavirus pandemic. The second half in particular will make your blood boil. The sheer, staggering, unconscionable ineptitude on display is mind-blowing. Everyone who’s ever enabled this guy or been enabled by him deserves to rot in jail for the rest of their hopefully short, miserable lives.
So this has been a topic of debate on Twitter today because it turns out that one of the contestants, Darren, is possibly a Neo-Nazi. He’s absolutely covered in facial tattoos and most people (including me) took one glance at all that and didn’t look any closer, some sharper people noticed that a lot of them are Neo-Nazi references – 88 on one cheek, “homegrown” on his lower lip and 23/16 (apparently code for “WP” ie “white power”) on his temples.
Not surprisingly, that Tweet is now deleted.
They’ve also postponed the show.
While we investigate the nature & meaning of Darren’s tattoos we have removed the video featuring him from our social media, & will not be broadcasting any eps of The Chop until we have concluded that investigation. Sky HISTORY stands against racism & hate speech of all kinds.
— Sky HISTORY (@HISTORYUK) October 20, 2020
Someone (not Sky History) looked up when the guy’s dad died and do you know, it turned out not to be any date to do with 88.
Speaking of nazis and history, I’ve been bingeing on the new season of Babylon Berlin. I don’t know whether this is available outside of Germany on streaming, but it’s actually well worth watching: A crime detective series set in Berlin in the 1920s and produced (and sometimes directed) by Tom Tykwer, it’s got good production values and it does a nice job of fleshing out the atmosphere of the Weimar Republic and the common people living in tumultous times as well as some of the historical developments on the eve of the nazis’ rise to power while on the other hand working as a typical detective story that is, well, good enough to keep your attention even if logic isn’t the strongest suit when it comes to that part of the show. Anyway, all of the seasons are worth a look if it’s on somewhere.
Speaking of nazis and history, I’ve been bingeing on the new season of Babylon Berlin. I don’t know whether this is available outside of Germany on streaming, but it’s actually well worth watching:
It’s on Sky in the UK/Ireland and Netflix in the US. I watched S1-2, but haven’t gotten to S3 yet.
I’ve been watching Staged on iPlayer. Presumably it was shot during lockdown because it’s essentially a Zoom call in which David Tennant and Michael Sheen play themselves attempting to rehearse a play they’re planning to do. Essentially it’s a two-hander, but there are occasionally some guest-stars, including their respective real-life partners, and some others who are a little more famous.
The episodes are only 15 minutes long, and I wasn’t sure about it at first, but the last couple of episodes have had me in tears of laughter, as they both wind each other up. It’s a little gem of a show.
I loved Staged (I think I wrote about it on a previous page) and I was delighted to hear today that there’s a sequel series coming.
This weeks Archer was yet another return to form for this show. We get some stakes, some rampage and the gang all together. And so many archerisms.
“Lana, introspection is the enemy of happiness”.
That said, I’m about to dive into Borat 2. I have feeling this one might need its own thread.
Watched most of season 2 of Doom Patrol. Still great.
This weeks Archer was yet another return to form for this show. We get some stakes, some rampage and the gang all together. And so many archerisms.
“Lana, introspection is the enemy of happiness”.
Mallory’s line about mowing them down like it’s a bad day at the Somme had me howling.
I forgot to mention this at the time, but last Friday on Sky Arts there was a film called White Riot. It’s worth watching if it’s still available (I’m not sure if Sky Arts have an on-demand option, but they repeat a lot so I’m sure it will be on again).
White Riot is a documentary about the Rock Against Racism movement in the UK in the 1970s, told through a mixture of archive footage and modern interviews with the people who were there.
The racism in the 70s was frankly horrific. I was there, but I was a young teenager (and also, white) and didn’t really understand the extent, or what it meant to see skinheads on the nightly news. But watching this brought back that, no matter how bad we think racism is today we’ve come a long way from what it was (in the UK at least, I’m not going to speak for other countries).
The film ends with the Victoria Park Carnival in 1979, a huge punk festival organized by RAR and the Anti-Nazi League. I barely registered it at the time (not in London, not interested in punk rock, didn’t watch the news much as a kid) but my partner (who is a few years older than me) was in the ANL and helped organize the carnival (you can see her standing in front of the stage in one shot ) so I now know a fair bit about it. But watching it in this film, seeing the energy of the people involved and hearing them talk about how important the moment was, was still eye-opening. It’s really powerful stuff.
I really recommend watching this film if you can.
Watched most of season 2 of Doom Patrol. Still great.
One of the best shows at the moment, yeah… definetly one of the best CB shows ever… it’s weird how I’ve never read it yet I recognize all of the Morrison-ery oozing out of it =P
I watched the first 25 minutes of the new Borat film and switched it off. I thought it was pretty weak.
This first section was mainly not pranks and interviews but acted sketches about Borat (and his daughter) that fail for the same reason the Ali G movie did – outside of the context of the interviews, the character just isn’t very funny and doesn’t have much mileage.
When the interviews/pranks do come, they’re fairly short, they’re with nobodies, everyone seems to be playing along because it’s clearly SBC (whether the disguise is Borat or another character), and they’re just not that funny either way. I guess I just struggle to see the point.
Separately, I’ve recently rewatched the whole of Black Books on Netflix over the last couple of weeks and enjoyed it.
I remember it as being a late 90s sitcom but it’s actually a slightly later than that (2000-2004). But either way it features a huge number of cameos and guest appearances from well-known faces in the late 90s/early 2000s UK comedy scene, many of whom went on to become bigger names later, which makes it feel a bit more star-studded than it did at the time.
Even without that though, it’s a fun watch. Very silly and light and whimsical – often to the point of absurd fantasy – but the central characters/performances are all enjoyable enough that the plots don’t matter, they’re just an excuse for the gags and funny situations, which have a fairly high hit rate.
It’s nice when you watch these well-remembered shows and they don’t let you down.
This first section was mainly not pranks and interviews but acted sketches about Borat (and his daughter) that fail for the same reason the Ali G movie did – outside of the context of the interviews, the character just isn’t very funny and doesn’t have much mileage. When the interviews/pranks do come, they’re fairly short, they’re with nobodies,
This much is true for the first Borat movie as well.
everyone seems to be playing along because it’s clearly SBC (whether the disguise is Borat or another character), and they’re just not that funny either way.
This, however, isn’t. And I agree with you. Some bits were really good, like the bit with the Pastor and Ghouliani, the rest of it just don’t have the absolute madenning zest that the original film did.
I’ll be honest, I wasn’t a huge fan of the first film either.
At the advice of friends I persevered with Borat and it did get better, there were some funny gags and a couple of decent setpieces in the back half.
I still feel like it’s a bit odd that the film is largely scripted when the only stuff that really works is the genuine stunts and events, but maybe that’s more to do with my personal preferences for what SBC does than anything else.
I’ll be honest, I wasn’t a huge fan of the first film either.
Yeah and humour is like that. I was doubled over laughing at Borat, it’s one of the funniest films I’ve ever seen. If it doesn’t tickle you it just doesn’t, there’s loads of highly lauded comedy that does nothing for me (most US sitcoms that aren’t animated for a start).
Yeah and to be honest I think I’m maybe overthinking it in trying to find reasons why it doesn’t work for me. This movie seemed to suffer from all the narrative/scripted/clearly setup scenes necessary to move the story along, but without that it probably wouldn’t work as a film. And with SBC’s most recent series, Who Is America, I think I criticised that for being all ‘gotcha’ moments as it felt a bit mean-spirited and exploitative. So maybe he just can’t win with me and it just isn’t to my tastes any more.
(Although I used to absolutely love his Ali G stuff on the Eleven O Clock show, back when he was lesser known and could get away with it all more easily.)
Saw I’m Thinking of Ending Things. It’s an incredibly good movie – funny, disturbing, cerebral – but I feel like my brain wasn’t awake enough for it yesterday night. I may have to watch it again to figure it out. Or I’ll just find someone smarter than me who wrote about it…
Saw I’m Thinking of Ending Things. It’s an incredibly good movie – funny, disturbing, cerebral – but I feel like my brain wasn’t awake enough for it yesterday night. I may have to watch it again to figure it out. Or I’ll just find someone smarter than me who wrote about it…
I liked it a lot, but found that I enjoyed it more after thinking on it the day after watching it. I couldn’t really process or understand it as I was watching it, but the more I thought about it afterwards the more I felt like I could make sense of it.
After that, I went and read up a little about the book (and Kaufman’s choices in adapting it to the screen) and it largely jibed with what I had taken away from it, so I felt like the movie did its job well.
But it’s worth checking out some of the articles that have been written on it, as there are some almost-invisible background details throughout the movie that play into the finale and help to make a bit more sense of it all.
Currently watching Lorcan and friends play battletech on twitch. It’s visual gibberish with irish commentary. Like, just a minute ago or so one guy allegedly exploded his mech due to excessive heat from moving too much but I’ve yet to… see anything happen. Sometimes one little mech moves. Or maybe all of them. It’s hard to follow.
I feel really old. Or young. Depending on how old this game is.
At the advice of friends I persevered with Borat and it did get better, there were some funny gags and a couple of decent setpieces in the back half.
We watched it here on Friday night – like Gar I found the first film way back when one of the rare things to make me laugh ’til I was sore (same with the under-rated Bruno) – Borat 2 is a better film than the first, but not as funny – make of that what you will.
The plot is more substantial, and it’s better made, with a purpose and some heart – and its plot’s topicality points to some very quick re/writing.
It’s a comedy so if laughs-per-minute is the only metric for comedies it lags behind the first film. The actor playing his daughter is very impressive, and some of the real life people are quite horrifying, but because of the nature of the film I was constantly taken out of the narrative in trying to figure out how they did this, who’s in on what; distracted throughout.
Yes, I can’t disagree with any of that.
because of the nature of the film I was constantly taken out of the narrative in trying to figure out how they did this, who’s in on what; distracted throughout.
I agree. But then I also felt the same about the first film, where a lot of the supposed real-life sections were obviously staged. Which completely destroys the comedy for me – because if the reactions are real and genuine then it’s funny, but if they’re scripted and fake then you can’t help but feel they should be better.
Currently watching Lorcan and friends play battletech on twitch. It’s visual gibberish with irish commentary. Like, just a minute ago or so one guy allegedly exploded his mech due to excessive heat from moving too much but I’ve yet to… see anything happen. Sometimes one little mech moves. Or maybe all of them. It’s hard to follow.
I feel really old. Or young. Depending on how old this game is.
Sound like our war games. An hour spent looking up rules, writing notes, plotting your movement, and then moving one counter one space on the map. I can’t believe it’s in any way interesting to spectators.
Currently watching Lorcan and friends play battletech on twitch. It’s visual gibberish with irish commentary. Like, just a minute ago or so one guy allegedly exploded his mech due to excessive heat from moving too much but I’ve yet to… see anything happen. Sometimes one little mech moves. Or maybe all of them. It’s hard to follow.
I feel really old. Or young. Depending on how old this game is.
Sound like our war games. An hour spent looking up rules, writing notes, plotting your movement, and then moving one counter one space on the map. I can’t believe it’s in any way interesting to spectators.
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We were using a client that automated the game, so stuff was happening it’s just the main thing you’d see was counters moving and then the text report of stuff what happened. Also, there was banter
Oh, I assumed you were playing the video game version of Battletech.
Oh, I assumed you were playing the video game version of Battletech.
It could be described as a video game version of BattleTech…
I’m bingeing The Expanse from the start, what a great show. I’m up to the back end of season 2.
Best Sci-Fi show since season 2 of BSG.
I won’t venture into the dedicated Expanse thread for fear of spoilers but I do have a couple of questions for the afficionados.
1) How come they start swearing in season 2? I thought it was season after S3 they moved from SyFy to Amazon as the main broadcaster. (It is worth it for Chrisjen’s “whoever the fuck you are, sit down and let the girl speak’ line.)
2) How long is this expected to last? I know it shouldn’t suffer the George RR Martin issue as the final novel is due next year but I read that the first season covered half the first novel. Is Jeff Bezos up for funding 19 seasons or have they upped the pace and 9 will probably do it?
1) How come they start swearing in season 2? I thought it was season after S3 they moved from SyFy to Amazon as the main broadcaster. (It is worth it for Chrisjen’s “whoever the fuck you are, sit down and let the girl speak’ line.)
It was a production decision by Alcon for streaming and home video. The episodes were censored when they aired on Syfy with highly noticeable overdubs – not as bad as ITV in the 90s but still not great. Presumably as Avasarala’s novel arc kicked off (she’s not in book 1) and she swears like a shipfull of sailors they figured it had to be in there.
2) How long is this expected to last? I know it shouldn’t suffer the George RR Martin issue as the final novel is due next year but I read that the first season covered half the first novel. Is Jeff Bezos up for funding 19 seasons or have they upped the pace and 9 will probably do it?
Series 2 finishes book 1 and does a fair chunk of book 2. They rushed through the back third of book 2 and all of book 3 in series 3 and did all of book 4 for series 4. If they wanted to rush things they could probably truncate books 5 and 6 to a single series, and 7-9 into 2, but books 7 and 8 both have natural cliffhanger/endpoints so it would lose some dramatic urgency.
not as bad as ITV in the 90s
It’s actually surprising with stuff like that they don’t just film the scene twice rather than dub, even if they do a decent job of covering over it.
S4C, the Welsh language channel, does entire series like ‘Hinterland’ where they repeat every scene with English dialogue to sell to English language markets (others aren’t so bothered they are okay with subtitles). It’d be way easier to do that when it’s one scene in 10, with the same script, where someone drops an F bomb.
But then you’d miss out on censorship overdubs like “yippe kiyay, Mister Falcon” for Die Hard. And who wants to live in that world?
Speaking of TV censorship though, I wish more Sky channels encrypted themselves (with pin protection) during the day while showing prime time programmes. Law & Order is on about three different channels, but they all only ever show the daytime edits of episodes. I’ve seen the episode where one of the ADAs is killed off a few times over the years and they’ve never included the shot of her body that’s the only confirmation she died and hasn’t just disappeared.
But then you’d miss out on censorship overdubs like “yippe kiyay, Mister Falcon” for Die Hard. And who wants to live in that world?
Don’t forget the monkey fighting snakes on the Monday to Friday plane.
I’m going to die on this hill…but “Yippie-Kay-Yay Mister Falcon” is a much better line than the original. For two reasons – 1. Repeating the same line is kinda lame, all things considered, so it was nice to switch it up. 2. Switching it up to Mister Falcon is actually really clever since the villain’s codename in the movie is “Falcon”. So, it’s a bit of a funny way to play with expectations about his well-known previous quip.
My wife has fond memories of Goonies and put it on for the kids the other day. After a few minutes she realised she must have watched a pre-watershed TV edit as a kid, as the uncensored versions has shits-a-plenty as well as gags about drugs and a sex dungeon.
It went over the kids’ heads though, and as we’ve said several times before swearing was pretty commonplace in those 80s kids’ comedies (Short Circuit, Flight of the Navigator etc.).
There was also a bit of a trend in the 80s and early 90s (in the UK, at least) where adult-oriented movies were edited for a kid-friendly pre-watershed audience. Eddie Murphy was huge at the time for kids as well as adults and I remember versions of Beverly Hills Cop and Coming To America being broadcast at Saturday teatime with all of the bad language cut or overdubbed. It wasn’t until years later that I saw them as intended.
Apparently there’s an infamous UK TV edit to one of the Indiana Jones movies that wrongfoots a lot of people when they see it for the first time on DVD or other media. Something to do with a heart being ripped from a chest.
Eddie Murphy was huge at the time for kids as well as adults and I remember versions of Beverly Hills Cop
That Beverly Hills Cop at 7.30pm on BBC1 is actually the first time I had seen a full on ‘muddy funster’ edit (I’d seen the original on VHS).
They were apparently made for US network TV airing were you aren’t allowed to swear any time of the day and there was a period round that time UK broadcasters aired those versions. I don’t think it lasted much beyond a couple of years though and they went back to showing 15 and 18 rated movies uncut after 9pm.
What’s actually bad about swearing, the words or the intent?
Words themselves have no power without intent behind them. So many people use “fuck” as an interjection in everyday language, it’s meaningless, it’s not swearing, it’s exactly as shocking as saying “er…” when you speak, as that’s exactly how they are using it.
But if you say “muddy funster” and you really mean it, that’s swearing, and that ought to be banned in kids’ shows.
What’s actually bad about swearing, the words or the intent? Words themselves have no power without intent behind them. So many people use “fuck” as an interjection in everyday language, it’s meaningless, it’s not swearing, it’s exactly as shocking as saying “er…” when you speak, as that’s exactly how they are using it.
It’s a conversation I have with my own kids a lot at the moment. At 7 and 9 they both know the vast majority of the naughty words (with the exception of The Butcher’s favourite) and we talk about them quite often as they ask what they mean and how they are used etc.
They know when it’s appropriate to use them and when it’s not, and they know what they mean. Which I think is far better than them potentially picking them up without that context and knowledge.
At 7 and 9 they both know the vast majority of the naughty words (with the exception of The Butcher’s favourite)
You’re a cunt for not teaching them that word.
That’s not why
What’s actually bad about swearing, the words or the intent?
The BBFC actually take this into account. They sometimes have a spokesman on the Radio 5 film show and he discussed the swearing in The King’s Speech. Normally (following the rule I consider stupid from the US classifiers) they allow only one F-word in a 12 rated film. They allowed more in that case because a) the stutter thing and b) it was not spoken with hurtful intent.
Not as far as the intent being all that matters but they did say if that was an angry ‘fuck you!’ then they wouldn’t have allowed it.
Watched The first episode of The Undoing, David E Kelly’s latest glossy drama series about a perfect family with a perfect life, but of course things aren’t all they seem. It was okay. My biggest takeaway from it is that Donna from The West Wing hasn’t aged a day in the last 20 years.
I watched the season finale of Archer and it was hilarious.
The best part was the surprise appearance by a Frisky Dingo character.
Watched Upgrade, which I’d heard good things about here when it came out. And it was great fun, a very effective little movie that knew exactly what it wanted. There was not an ounce of fat on this one. And for a mid-budget movie, the action scenes were extremely impressive, especially the fights were great. It’s also the most cyberpunk movie I’ve seen in twenty years or so, I think. I’ll have to see Whannell’s Invisible Man, too. And apparently he’s turning Upgrade into a TV series, which is very, very easy to see indeed. I’d like to see them stick with the protagonist of the movie as the antagonist of the TV series, that’d be neat.
Watched Upgrade, which I’d heard good things about here when it came out. And it was great fun, a very effective little movie that knew exactly what it wanted. There was not an ounce of fat on this one. And for a mid-budget movie, the action scenes were extremely impressive, especially the fights were great. It’s also the most cyberpunk movie I’ve seen in twenty years or so, I think. I’ll have to see Whannell’s Invisible Man, too. And apparently he’s turning Upgrade into a TV series, which is very, very easy to see indeed. I’d like to see them stick with the protagonist of the movie as the antagonist of the TV series, that’d be neat.
Yeah, I put it on expecting very little and really enjoyed it.
Finally saw Venom last night. It was actually very similar to Upgrade, both thematically and in being very effective. It’s a pretty dumb movie, but it’s fun enough and doesn’t outstay its welcome.
I also watched The Babysitter, a horror comedy thing on Netflix. It was actually pretty good. Home Alone with a bit of gore, basically.
It’s a pretty dumb movie, but it’s fun enough and doesn’t outstay its welcome.
This is Venom in a nutshell. It feels like a very 90s style of superhero movie.
I also watched The Babysitter, a horror comedy thing on Netflix. It was actually pretty good. Home Alone with a bit of gore, basically.
I really liked the Babysitter… There’s a second one which isn’t as good, but okay nonetheless. The first one is really fun though.
Still on The Expanse, up to middle-ish of season 3.
I love Cara Gee as Drummer. She just has these slightly weird mannerisms and stances to go with the Belter slang, she steals every scene she’s in but with a restrained performance.
I’m watching both “Evil” and “Truth Seekers”, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost’s new show, and they have a few things in common; they’re both about teams of paranormal investigators, and both deal with a case each episode but also have continuing threads that run throughout the series.
Also, they’re both kind of average. I’m only about a 3rd of the way through both series, but hopefully the ongoing questions will be resolved this season, or they’ll be bit of a letdown.
I’ve been watching the anthology series Soulmates. The premise is scientists have discovered the “soul particle” and by taking “The Test”, you can be matched with your soulmate. People will leave marriages they’re in to be with their soulmate.
All in all, it’s very Black Mirror Extra Lite. The stories are pretty much ones you’ve seen dozens of times before in various other series and movies, just set in this universe with The Test/soulmate thing as the MacGuffin to launch the tale. You pretty much know the ending 5 minutes in.
They’ve aired 4 of the 6 episodes so far and they’re mediocre at best.
Still on The Expanse, up to middle-ish of season 3.
So has that bit with Amos happened?
Still on The Expanse, up to middle-ish of season 3.
I love Cara Gee as Drummer. She just has these slightly weird mannerisms and stances to go with the Belter slang, she steals every scene she’s in but with a restrained performance.
Cara Gee is so different to Drummer it’s uncanny. Up there with Stefanie Beatriz and Rosa Diaz
I’m watching both “Evil” and “Truth Seekers”, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost’s new show, and they have a few things in common; they’re both about teams of paranormal investigators, and both deal with a case each episode but also have continuing threads that run throughout the series.
Also, they’re both kind of average. I’m only about a 3rd of the way through both series, but hopefully the ongoing questions will be resolved this season, or they’ll be bit of a letdown.
I’m hoping the ongoing questions in Evil aren’t resolved, as I think it makes a more intriguing series when you don’t know the answers for sure. (I also think it’s well above average, partly for that reason).
I’m hoping the ongoing questions in Evil aren’t resolved, as I think it makes a more intriguing series when you don’t know the answers for sure. (I also think it’s well above average, partly for that reason).
I worry that they can’t be resolved satisfactorily. They’re setting up “The Sixty” as though they’re the hordes of Hell, so at some point it’ll either have to be revealed as some kind of *very* elaborate hoax, or they’ll have to have some big CGI fight-fest, which would be a bit silly.
It’s okay – I’m not particularly emotionally invested in any of the characters, and Kristen’s kids are *incredibly* annoying.
‘Evil’ is the one with Michael Emerson. I watched the first few episodes and he was freaking me out.
We just watched the new version of The Witches.
I thought it was great and the reimagining worked well while staying very true to the spirit of the book. The kids loved it and found it just scary enough to shit them up a little bit in a couple of places, as it should be.
Octavia Spencer and Anne Hathaway were both brilliant (Hathaway seemed to be having the time of her life).
Even the CGI was good!
Cara Gee is so different to Drummer it’s uncanny.
I Googled a video of her chatting normally without the constant vocal fry and beltalowda slang.
I’ve been betrayed, she’s an inner!
I take it back – “Evil” is bloody brilliant! Still got 3 episodes to go, but the last few episodes have been great. I love all three leads now, and positively boo and hiss every time Michael Emerson appears on screen. I loved the way his little scheme with the incel guy played out as well.
“Evil” is bloody brilliant!
It really grew on me and became one of my favorites.
Looking forward to season 2 (production started last month, so probably in the new year?).
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Do NOT click the link until you’ve watched season one in it’s entirety.
EVIL FANS ARE SOLVING A BIZARRE PUZZLE THAT COULD REVEAL SEASON 2 SPOILERS
The map is set.
…fans are still trying to piece together the alternate reality game (ARG) introduced in Season 1. Co-showrunner Robert King has hinted that the clues to solve the ARG reside in Evil’s episode titles (all of which include at least one number) and the episodes themselves. While the puzzle remains unresolved for now, additional Season 2 clues could reveal exactly where the puzzle’s map will lead…
…“There is a puzzle approach with the whole season. It’s a combination of the numbers and other things you can find within the episode. It’s a fairly complicated puzzle. There is a pattern, and it won’t come together until the last episode. It’s not something you can figure out along the way, even though you should be keeping track.”…
…Fans on Reddit have taken the bread crumbs littered throughout Season 1 and placed them over a map of New York City. Each clue has led to a series of red lines and boxes that seemingly work as a blueprint to finding the answer…
I’ve been catching up on The Crown with Audrey recently.
Saw the episode ‘Tywysog Cymru’ which is based around Charles being invested as Prince of Wales in 1969. For a change was really impressed with the accuracy of the rather lengthy sections of the episode spoken in Welsh. I expected to cringe a lot but the dialogue was very natural and well written.
We’ll have to take your word for it, Gar.
You certainly will.
It is surprising though how often you watch something about a subject you know well and they are completely off the mark, I know Dr Mike can barely watch any medical dramas for that reason. So it’s always refreshing when they don’t mess it up. I’d be surprised if Welsh people made up 0.5% of the viewers of The Crown so they don’t really have to care.
For me it’s when TV programme show people playing video games. Veronica Mars had her play multiplayer in a single player game once, I remember seeing a bit of Coronation Street once, years ago, where a kid was deeply engrossed in a Game Boy that didn’t even have a game in it. And that’s even before you get to actors that have clearly never used a controller before and have no idea how to act using one.
Spaced was maybe the first show I ever saw where someone playing a videogame actually looked like they were playing it.
, I know Dr Mike can barely watch any medical dramas for that reason.
I always find this school of thought a bit odd, it’s all just part of suspension of disbelief. I’ve seen shitloads of dramas with completely nonsensical legal elements over the years and it’s only the ones where they actively unravel the whole fabric of the show that are really unwatchable in that way (yes Broadchurch series two, I’m looking at you). Mostly you can just shrug it off. It’d be like letting a minor continuity error in a superhero comic stop you from enjoying the entire thing.
I always find this school of thought a bit odd, it’s all just part of suspension of disbelief.
Well it’s a personal thing and I think it also impacts on what you think the ramifications of bad information are.
It’s like in Argo I don’t object to them completely making up the end of an exciting airport chase but did at the accusations made that specifically NZ and the UK refused to help the US embassy staff, which was the opposite of the truth.
Some judge using a gavel in a UK drama is wrong but it may suit the dramatic point so you let it pass, if the entire concept is contrary to how the law works then it jumps the shark. For example Broadchurch series 2 which I probably would have enjoyed in blissful ignorance.
For example Broadchurch series 2 which I probably would have enjoyed in blissful ignorance.
Honestly there was stuff in that series that would have been obviously questionable even to a layman. Witnesses being allowed to sit in court and listen to proceedings, stuff like that.
You’re right though, this stuff is all subjective really.
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