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the scheduling for the AZ-COL series is a head scratcher. Both are western teams but they are getting Eastern times.
Pacific(MTN) times for the first four games Gm1 230(330) pm Weds, Gm2 11(12) am Fri, Gm3 12(1) Sat, Gm4 230(330) pm. Only one is available to watch for your average 9-5 employee. Fortunately for me i’m on the East Coast and only have a conflict on Friday.
Smart money goes to a Colorado- Philadelphia Final.
But this is 2020. Get good odds and put something down on a favorite. We already have chaos happening a little. Maybe it goes way out of whack.
Anything can happen, especially now.
Smart money goes to a Colorado- Philadelphia Final.
Thanks for your support Sean but Vegas is everyone’s darling. I have a lot to say about Saturday’s game but I am not going let myself get started. Remember how San Jose last year won some series controversially well the coach on that team is now Vegas’ coach. Add in the fact they play in the Nation’s gambling capital with the foremost experts in handicapping all sports minutes away and very suspicious thoughts can occur. CALL ME paranoid. I don’t care. (deep breath). It’s a game. I deeply love my team but gotta deal with the shit that comes their way. I believe my team is the most talented team out there and can beat anybody but games are not played on paper and the best laid plans rarely survive contact with real life.
Vegas is everyone’s darling
He’s not even a playable character in the original SF2!!
… what?
Vegas is everyone’s darling
He’s not even a playable character in the original SF2!!
… what?
If what follows is a noseful of your high grade heroin, count me the fuck in!
If what follows is a noseful of your high grade heroin, count me the fuck in!
I’m now imagining that’s the translation of this.
(That actually looks a bit like Tarantino doesn’t it? Perfect!)
Holy fuck! The Columbus Tampa Bay game started over 6 hours ago. In the 5th Overtime right now.
As they need a minimum of 90 minutes between games (for the ice), they have postponed the next game from the Toronto Hub.
Boston Carolina is now tomorrow (Wednesday) at 8 AM Pacific- 11 AM Eastern
Holy Puck! The Columbus Tampa Bay game started over 6 hours ago.In the 5th Overtime right now.
FIFY
it finished approximately 1 min and 30 seconds before setting the record for modern day hockey. there were 2 games in the 30s that went longer but some of those teams don’t exist anymore. the Calgary-Dallas game started and finished while the other game was in OT. Jumbotron in Toronto had fun with messages for people watching the game. “Still Overtime” in the 3rd and “we apologize if you had anything else to do tonight” in the 4th.
Happy they moved the BOS-CAR to this morning.
There’s a rugby player in the English league called Tom Cruse, slightly different spelling but it’s pronounced the same so always amusing when he plays. Anyway I was looking a preview of the league starting up again this week and they mentioned a new player in the same position for an opposition team is called Ethan Hunt.
So looking forward to the prospect of Tom Cruse v Ethan Hunt head to head later in the year. The commentators should have fun with that one.
NHL news
So, Vancouver wins 4-3 @ 5:55 of the first OT period to take a 2-0 series lead over St. Louis.
(I hope the link shows everything)
Canuck Captain Bo Horvat opened the scoring with the best goal of the playoffs so far, and short-handed to boot.
Every replay likened it to a video game.
He also scored the OT winner.
He also leads the League in goals? (Six) I guess that counts the Qualifying Round.
Vancouver faltered just before the season paused (various reasons).
We had been riding the top of the Pacific Division for a long time, by a tight margin.
Vegas ended up on top when Covid stoppage happened.
It wasn’t good for the (defending Stanley Cup Champions) St. Louis Blues to go through a round-robin and lose three straight as Vancouver (while losing the first Qualifying game) just won three straight.
I just knew as it was happening that it was better to go through the qualifying round (Colorado and Vegas owned the round robin, Dallas and St. Louis looked horrible).
So, the West has:
Vegas lead Chicago 2-0
Colorado lead Arizona 2-0
Calgary lead Dallas 2-1
Vancouver lead St. Louis 2-0
The East has:
Philadelphia tied Montreal 1-1
Boston tied Carolina 1-1
Tampa Bay tied Columbus 1-1
NY Islanders lead Washington 2-0 (?)
So the last two Stanley Cup winners (St. Louis (2019) & Washington (2018)) are down 2-0 in their respective series.
Pittsburgh (2017, 2016, 2009) and LA (2014, 2012) are out.
Chicago (2010, 2013, 2015) is down 2-0.
Boston (2011) is tied to Carolina (2006) 1-1.
Detroit (2008) and Anaheim (2007) are out
5 teams from the last 14 years (Post – Lockout 2004-05 Year) are alive.
Time for some fresh blood.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29666909/boston-bruins-goalie-tuukka-rask-opts-ahead-game-3
He obviously didn’t want to play and I am not sure there aren’t more Bruins not wanting to play. Their only win comes in OT after a controversial goal that shouldn’t have counted. Argue all you want but if a puck is under a goalie’s glove play should be stopped.
The East seems to be a bloodbath. Hungry qualifiers are really taking it to the top 4. Tampa, Boston, and Washington have all lost a top level player and Philly just lost 5-0. It is very early but it could be that the Western conference final could be the defacto Stanley Cup as the 2 best teams atm are Vegas and Colorado and the East Winner could be exhausted from a knock down drag out slug fest.
p.s. congrats Sean on your teams early success.
I was a big snooker fan as a teenager but never liked Ronnie O’Sullivan, largely due to his persona. I don’t know what’s changed but in recent years I’ve come to really enjoy his pisstaking and refusal to conform to the usual clichés. This interview gave me a chuckle.
O’Sullivan is by miles the most talented cue sport player ever. It’s hard to try and convey to someone who’s never played snooker how incredibly impossible something like this is. The table is double the size of pool and the pockets less than half the size. He then sometimes takes the piss and tries shots left handed.
In the 90s SKY TV had some Mosconi Cup tournament where they invited snooker players to take on the world 9 ball pool champions and despite all the different tactics (like jump balls) they schooled them. I think they genuinely found it very easy.
Yeah I’ve seen snooker players playing in some of the pool tournaments and cleaning up.
I grew up watching Hendry in his prime and always admired his temperament, but like a lot of snooker players he had a bit of a boring personality.
O’Sullivan was a dick and can still be like that, but at least there’s a kind of honesty in his reactions.
It’s hard to try and convey to someone who’s never played snooker how incredibly impossible something like this is. The table is double the size of pool and the pockets less than half the size. He then sometimes takes the piss and tries shots left handed.
Yeah, I used to play occasionally on full-size tables and always found it incredibly challenging – I think my best ever break was like 12 or something.
Playing for real made it all the more impressive when watching it on TV, where there’s a foreshortening effect that distorts the size of the table and makes it look smaller than it is.
Really with the advent of widescreen TV they should orient the table horizontally. I wonder why they don’t.
The Sports Thread reduced to a discussion about snooker; this is what it’s come to.
DAMN YOU, COVID!!!!
In 1985 (in the days of 4 channels) the highest rated ever BBC2 show in history was the snooker final. A significantly pre-covid occurrence.
I have a couple of snooker related anecdotes I will share in the next day or so, regardless of interest.
In 1985 (in the days of 4 channels) the highest rated ever BBC2 show in history was the snooker final.
And after midnight, no less!
I was too young to have seen it at the time but I’ve watched the replay of that entire final frame since, and it is pretty gripping stuff.
All of it is better than baseball, the most tedious of sports.
This is not a UK v US rant, I really like NFL and basketball. Even in 5 day test cricket you’ll never watch for 50 minutes and see nobody hit the ball. That level of non-action is reserved for baseball, which is probably why its most famous for cards or kiss cams or t-shirt machines.
I’ve always kind of equated cricket and baseball in my mind, in that the idea for both seems to be to go and have a nice day out sitting in the stands drinking and eating, with the sport itself almost incidental to the experience.
And one of the greatest feats in baseball is a no-hitter.
In 1985 (in the days of 4 channels)
I have no idea if you are telling truth, or jerking my chain.
Actually, I’ve gathered enough references over time that you are probably telling truth.
Plus I was in Sydney, Australia for the month of December 1991 (uncle lives there).
I remember staying in a posh suite. 5 channels, option for 3 more costed more money.
Kinda weird, but I wonder if the Ozzies were ahead of the UK at that time
From my history (please remember my dad is Scottish, and as sterotypically cheap as it gets…).
I’ll say 1979, we finally bought a ‘converter’ (the kind that took the cable line ‘in’ and two came out, one to ‘VHF’ (Very High Frequency – channels 2-13), and one to ‘UHF’ (Ultra High Frequency (ooh! sounds fancy…).
Others had better equipment, but nice to slowly catch up.
Two stations from down south (Seattle and Tacoma) changed everything.
Swear to F**k, waking up to ‘Star Blazers’ every morning (and at school on time) helped me with my superior organizational skills later in life.
Love the fact that this evolved into what we have.
Old days had people originally from the UK (and elsewhere) going to a pub at 4 AM on Saturdays and Sundays to watch a
game, excuse me, football, on ‘Satellite’.soccer
I could ramble on, but will save you from that.
p.s. congrats Sean on your teams early success.
You know what I’ve been telling friends, family, and co-workers?
No fans in the stands is a boon for this team.
After the awkward chuckle, they know I’m not joking.
Seriously, the winning game in the qualifying round saw us blow a lead and then win in OT.
Just like the last game.
If that was in this ‘mood-swingy-asshole’ market, then no way.
We would’ve jinxed it good and proper and made the team lose in regulation.
Here the captain (Bo Horvat) is allowed to lead the way.
Locally, he’s just had a son (Gunner Horvat), been with him for a week, then entered the bubble.
Every analyst watches him (those that are parents) and says he’s found his purpose, his reason.
Good for him!
Of note: ‘mood-swingy-asshole market’, well, I think I have an ‘almost’.
I’m onto something, just doesn’t roll off the tongue.
Seahawks cut Kemah Siverand after CB caught sneaking visitor into team hotel
The Seattle Seahawks waived Kemah Siverand, a little-known rookie cornerback, on Tuesday, and the reason for his departure has come to light.
NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported Thursday Seattle cut Siverand, an undrafted free agent, after he was caught on video trying to sneak a female visitor into the team hotel, per sources informed of the situation. The woman was wearing Seahawks gear in an attempt to disguise her as a player, Pelissero added.
Dumbass!
I have no idea if you are telling truth, or jerking my chain.
It’s true that there were only four terrestrial channels in the UK in 1985.
And even then, only just – as Channel 4 had only launched in 1982.
There were 3 network channels in the UK until Channel 4 started in 1982 as Dave says.
A very small number of people with cable connections got more channels around 1985 (I was one but we only had a cable connection because of bad reception otherwise). Outside of that less than 1% Cable TV didn’t exist.
Then in 1989 Murdoch launched Sky satellite TV which added a lot more. Various cable companies expanded at the same time and offered the same channel options as satellite.
In various conversations I’ve had with people around the world that experience and timeline is actually pretty typical and it was north America as the outlier with a lot of TV channels before the 1990s.
There were 3 network channels in the UK until Channel 4 started in 1982 as Dave says.
I remember summers on my aunt’s farm in West Cork in 1971-73 where there was only 1 network — RTE, which broadcast weekdays from 6pm til 11pm. On weekends it began its broadcast earlier to show old films and live sporting events. When we would visit family in Drogheda (north of Dublin on the east coast) we also got BBC1 and (I think) a couple of other stations — possibly BBC2 and ITV at that time, with more extensive broadcast times.
So there’s only two series left in the NHL’s first round, Philly/Montreal and St. Louis/Vancouver.
Both Philly and Vancouver can advance tonight, or play a game 7 Sunday.
As there is no hockey tomorrow, the only confirmed match-up of the second round starts Saturday @ 8PM Eastern
Colorado vs. Dallas
Colorado is looking scary good. After winning their first two games (but leaving their opponents thinking ‘almost…’), and then Phoenix winning one, they won games 4 and 5 each by a score of 7-1.
I would think that would put them as the favorite to win, yet a betting advertisement in the paper today has Vegas #1 and Colorado #2 (Tampa #3, Boston #4) to win the Cup.
I don’t see it, but admittedly I just don’t respect the Vegas hype machine.
Anyways, could more on the future schedule later tonight.
So the NHL East is set: Philadelphia advances (over Montreal).
Tampa Bay over Columbus, Boston over Carolina.
The only upset (lower seed) to win is NY Islanders(6) over (2018 Cup Winners) Washington(3).
Brackets do not apply. Re-seeding happens.
Philadephia vs. NY Islanders
Tampa Bay vs. Boston
The Islanders will provide more of a challenge to Philly than Montreal did, but that Tampa Boston match-up could be like the winner is too punch drunk to continue.
Philly needs to focus, don’t read the papers or listen to the radio. Game by game, and their path to the Finals is there.
And the West is set. Vancouver beats the defending Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues 6-2 in game #6.
So happy right now. Good team effort. 3rd and 4th lines showing up, and everyone was saying it would be the other way around before the series started.
Last years hero for St. L goaltender Binnington was replaced with Allen for games 3 & 4, who responded with 2 wins to tie the series.
But he lost game 5, and while not the reason, didn’t look great.
They went back to Binnington, and he was going to decide the series one way or the other.
(he was yanked after 4 goals, just before the midway point of the game).
So it’s Colorado vs. Dallas and Vegas vs. Vancouver
Schedule not out, but we know Saturday and Sunday’s line-up.
Saturday:
Dallas @ Colorado – 8 PM eastern
Sunday:
Boston @ Tampa Bay – 8:00 eastern
Vancouver @ Vegas – 10:30 eastern
Hmmm. 3 of those teams haven’t played since Wednesday, Vancouver played earlier tonight.
I hope the Hockey Gods give Vegas a serious Zamboni accident to even up…
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Oh, and something happened today that families are NOT allowed inside the bubble (Edmonton the only Host city for Conference Finals and Finals) for the Conference Finals.
Everything was conditional, but I’m guessing government pulled back
So after hockey was called out for playing games on Wednesday, the players cancelled games on Thursday and Friday (so everyone affected, equally by one game).
Vegas Golden Knights forward Ryan Reaves and opponents come together
Exerpts
“Am I really going to walk out on my team and be the only guy?” Reaves asked himself. “Or [are there] going to be a couple of guys?”
Then Reaves woke up Thursday to a text from former St. Louis Blues teammate Kevin Shattenkirk… a bunch of players in the East wanted to talk.
Then Reaves received a text telling him Canucks players (current second round opponents) wanted to talk too.After the announcement Thursday, five players stood at microphones in Edmonton: Reaves, Colorado Avalanche center Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, Dallas Stars forward Jason Dickinson, Canucks center Bo Horvat and Avalanche center Nazem Kadri. Players from each of the four teams in the hub stood behind them.
“I go to war with these guys, and I hate their guts on the ice. But I couldn’t be prouder of these guys. The statement that they’ve made today is something that’s going to last. These two days isn’t going to fix anything, but the conversation and the statement that’s been made is very powerful, especially coming from this League.”
Reaves has a unique perspective on the issues. According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, his mother, Brenda, is white. His father, Willard, is Black and a former sergeant with the Manitoba Sheriff Services in Winnipeg. His great-great-great-grandfather Bass Reeves was the first Black deputy U.S. marshal (and spelled his last name differently when born a slave in 1838).
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Updated schedule has: (eastern times)
Saturday:
Tampa Bay @ Bruins – 12:00 PM – game #4 (Tampa leads 2-1)
Philadelphia @ NY Islanders – 7:00 PM – game #3 (series tied 1-1)
Vegas @ Vancouver – 9:45 PM – game #3 (series tied 1-1)
Sunday:
Colorado @ Dallas – 6:00 PM – game #4 (Dallas leads 2-1)
Philadelphia @ NY Islanders – game #4 – 8:00 PM
Vegas @ Vancouver – game #4 – 7:30 PM
– was ready to throw in the towel after the game #1 loss to Vegas. They’re just too damn good.
Then Vancouver won game #2, and we can do this.
Not as easy as typing it, though.
Vancouver has to execute perfectly, and everyone has to bring their A-game, but it can be done.
We need our goaltender to be our best player.
Nice to see Colorado win a game! Ummm, WTF happened there? Dallas lead 2-0 after 2 games?
All 4 series had ‘Evil’ winning the first game, but then Dallas went and upset a ton of gambling.
Interesting…
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NHL comes down hard on Phoenix over scouting violations
Takes away Phoenix’s 2nd round pick this year and 1st round pick next year.
It had been speculated previously that punishment of some sort would be given to the Coyotes, who were reported in January to be under investigation for improper scouting procedures.
The NHL prohibits teams from working out prospects prior to the league’s scouting combine. In Februrary, TSN’s Darren Dreger reported there were “at least 20 incidents” of the Coyotes fitness testing draft-eligible players. At the time, The Athletic’s Craig Morgan reported that the Coyotes didn’t believe they violated the rule, and that a source said the Coyotes merely conducted permitted meetings with prospects and asked that the players “show up for the interviews in a T-shirt and shorts so that team staff could ‘eyeball’ their bodies.”
But the statement from the NHL tells a different story:
“At the outset of the hearing, the club acknowledged that it had violated the policy by conducting physical testing on 2020 draft-eligible players prior to the combine.
Note: Phoenix does not own their own 1st or 3rd pick, so will not pick until round 4
Their first round pick this year already went to New Jersey in the Taylor Hall deal.
Taylor Hall is a UFA, and may get a huge payday as Phoenix doesn’t want to let him go (or have anything to show for the deal)
Ummm, WTF happened there?
Grubauer went out early in GM 1 and 3 others have joined him on unfit to play list. Hopefully by Gm 4 they will have made the adjustments they need to make for Francouz and the other new players to play their best. :fingerscrossed:
So, I know everyone was wondering how many times a goaltender has played in his first ever playoff game while his team is facing elimination, and won the game (staving off elimination).
Before this year the answer was 13.
Then it happened twice in two nights.
Colorado’s Michael Hutchinson made 31 saves in their 6-3 victory over Dallas Monday night, forcing a game 6 (which just started minutes ago.
Then Vancouver’s Thatcher Demko made 42 saves in their 2-1 win over Vegas Tuesday night.
Game 6 goes Thursday.
Also staving off elimination Tuesday night was Philadelphia with a victory over the NY Islanders.
That game 6 also goes Thursday.
Honestly want all three to force game 7’s (and win them).
The only one to move on is Tampa Bay winning in 5 games over Boston.
So the NHL had three series force a game 7 (Philly – NY Islanders starts a half hour from now and will set the eastern Final).
Yesterday was a heartbreaker for both me and Rocket. Dallas and Vegas go on (and game #1 is tomorrow (Sunday)).
Colorado vs. Dallas started at 1 PM (my time) so I was at work, and in my car when the overtime goal happened.
Sports radio guys remarked it was very surprising Dallas got 5 goals against Hutchinson.
Colorado deserved a better fate. Just couldn’t overcome injuries.
The second game, Vancouver got outstanding goaltending yet again.
But this time we couldn’t score (couldn’t sustain pressure or keep puck possession).
One late goal won it (and two empty-netters sealed it)
Game #6 was a perfect example of how not panicking against Vegas’ speed and cycle attack can work.
Keep them to the outside, let the goaltender see everything, and they get frustrated.
Game #7 showed that Vegas is the better team overall.
Both had their 5th game in 7 nights, but Vegas’ depth has them roll 4 lines, and were the better skating team in game 7.
After the shock, this town should be happy with what we’ve accomplished.
Preliminary round, plus making it to the second round (making a damned good effort).
And it felt good. Hasn’t felt good in a long time.
So who do I cheer for? Not Vegas, and not Dallas.
But I guess if I’m sick Vegas being “everyone’s darling” (and thanks for that quote), I guess Dallas from the West.
But now I’m free to become a Philadelphia fan.
Honestly hope Alain Vigneault (Philly coach) gets a Stanley Cup.
They just have to win their game 7…
Argghhh. Missing post from 3 hours ago. It was good, damned good.
Anyways, so of course the three I pick (Colorado, Vancouver, Philadelphia) to come back from 3-1 deficits all look awesome in winning games 5 & 6 (forcing a game 7).
Did you know, odds are against coming back from 3-1, but in the NHL, teams that are down and then wins games 5 & 6 are 50.6 % winning game #7.
All 3 lost, Evil reigns supreme in the world, and I’m scared to search that stat as 3 teams could affect that math.
Anyways, the Western Final (Dallas Stars @ Vegas Golden Knights) starts Sunday at 8 PM EDT, the Eastern Final (NY Islanders @ Tampa Bay Lightning) starts Monday at 8 PM EDT.
Don’t know who to cheer for in the West (don’t want to, more accurately) and I guess it’s quite impressive what Barry Trotz (2018 Cup winning coach with Washington) has done with the Islanders, so maybe I root for them?
Oh, don’t listen to me for gambling. You’ll go broke…
All 3 lost, Evil reigns supreme in the world,
Seconded. it was so close
edit: <span style=”color: #222222; font-family: Raleway, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;”>Don’t know who to cheer for in the West (don’t want to, more accurately).</span>
I ain’t. next weekend English football starts on Saturday and American football starts on Sunday. as far as hockey goes, waiting on next season and prayers for good health next year.
Missing 7 players(including the captain, 2 goalies, #1 defenseman, 2 3rd line studs) and still had a lead with 3 minutes to go in GM 7.
This video picks up on the Mission Winnow thing we were talking about a while back.
A nice interview with one of Gar’s favourites:
Neville Southall: ‘You don’t expect loose cannons to take over your own country’
Big Nev, best goalie in the world in his time and an extraordinarily great bloke off the field.
Reminder: @MikeTyson is 54 years old 😳
(via kingsmma_hb/IG) pic.twitter.com/9NCCNuC795
— ESPN Ringside (@ESPNRingside) September 16, 2020
I love this video. It’s the Euro 2016 tournament and Irish football fans are overflowing outside an Irish pub in Paris. This random Parisian bloke on his balcony becomes the source of entertainment.
It’s one of those things that’s incredibly dumb but also rather heartwarming when big crowds are having some harmless fun.
Game # 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals is on.
Sat. – Mon. – Wed. – Fri. – Sat. – Mon. – Wed.
The back – to – back next weekend keeps a possible game 7 from being in October (!)
The Dallas Stars vs. the Tampa Bay Lightning.
I didn’t really watch too much of the 3rd round.
I’ll make more of an effort (it is the Finals after all), but I’m just not that into this scenario.
Not enough of a Tampa fan, and Dallas just bugs me (no, I’m not sure why, and yes it may be a tad unfair, sex with goats after victories being unproven (although 90-something % sure that applies to Tom Brady, but that’s a different sport…)
Anyways, this is still Hockey in Summer!
I didn’t really watch too much of the 3rd round.
I watched hardly any of the championship games but watching the Stars success just makes me think “What IF”
Some say that baseball is a boring game. I say to each their own. If you watch American football where a team goes nowhere on a few plays and punts the ball and that team does nothing either and punts, you change the remote. Soccer (or real football) is also a trading of ball possession with very little scoring. Hockey is back and forth as is basketball. Tennis. Golf.
Any sport can be considered boring when no one scores.
It all lies on the remote giving us all short attention spans as well as all the alternatives in entertainment and this need to fill in all this down time.
Just saying.
Any sport can be considered boring when no one scores.
Any sport can be considered boring when you do not understand the skills and strategies within that sport. From my years as a Little League coach I came to appreciate the teamwork involved in baseball; for instance, the way a shortstop covers the bag when a ground ball is hit toward the second basemen, or how a pitcher will run to cover first base. Seeing how well each player responds and does his job as part of a team makes watching the game more enjoyable and less boring to me.
The same could be said for just about any sport, even curling (the guy with the broom has a fascinating job!).
I’m still on the fence about tractor pulls as a competitive sport.
Any sport can be considered boring when you do not understand the skills and strategies within that sport
As my friend taught me when he was dragging me to the UFC’s from the beginning.
Lotsa work in that ground game, but sometimes hard to watch.
The uneducated just roll their eyes, but lots going on.
When Conor McGregor lost his boxing match to Floyd Mayweather Junior, I honestly thought he had a real decent chance.
But Mayweather paced himself like a pro. McGregor was winded after over-exerting. Mayweather also smarter on home turf (and the better conditioned athlete).
So I honestly brought that up, and then remembered what I heard on sports radio Friday.
A quick search brings up something from 2 hours ago.
Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor to fight next year
MANILA — Philippine boxing champion Manny Pacquiao will face former two-weight UFC champion Conor McGregor in the ring next year, and part of proceeds from the fight will go to coronavirus victims in his country, his office said on Saturday.
Both fighters are “getting ready for this one epic last boxing fight,” said Jayke Joson, special assistant to Pacquiao, who is also a Philippine senator.
Joson’s statement followed a tweet by Irishman McGregor in which he said that he would be “boxing Pacquiao next in the Middle East.”
“We don’t deny it,” Joson said of the former UFC featherweight and lightweight champ’s tweet.
McGregor announced on Twitter in June that he was retiring from the sport for the third time. He first quit in April 2016. In March 2019, he again announced he was hanging up his gloves, but on both occasions the retirements were short-lived.
Negotiation between the two camps “is now starting to move on,” Joson said, adding a “huge portion” of Pacquiao’s earnings would go to those who were affected by the pandemic.
Total confirmed coronavirus cases in the Philippines surpassed 300,000 on Saturday, while deaths rose to 5,284.
The Philippines has the most confirmed COVID-19 infections in Southeast Asia and the region’s second highest number of coronavirus deaths, next to Indonesia. The 41-year-old Pacquiao, whose speed and power belie his age, is the only man in boxing history to hold world titles in eight different divisions.
He defeated Keith Thurman to win the WBA Welterweight Super Championship in July, taking his record to 62-7-2 with 39 knockouts.
McGregor has only fought once in professional boxing, suffering a 10th-round technical knockout loss to Floyd Mayweather at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas in a lucrative bout that took place in August 2017.
Despite his limited experience in the boxing ring, McGregor, a former two-weight UFC champion, told Reuters in November 2017 that the Mayweather fight earned him $140 million.
so game #5 is tied 1-1 entering the 3rd period.
If Tampa Bay wins, they win the Stanley Cup.
This is both Dallas and Tampa Bay’s 3rd trip to the finals (both have a previous win).
Tampa won in 2004 (over Calgary) and lost in 2015 (to Chicago).
Dallas won in 1999 (over Buffalo) and lost in 2000 (to New Jersey)
As Dallas was previously the Minnesota North Stars and they had losses in 1981 (to NYI) and 1991 (to Pittsburgh) then this would be their 5th trip.
4 teams have yet to make a trip (Columbus, Minnesota Wild, Winnipeg (former Atlanta) and Phoenix (former Winnipeg)
5 teams with one trip have nothing to show (Vegas, San Jose, Ottawa, Nashville, and Florida)
Buffalo have nothing in two trips, Washington, Carolina, and Anaheim are 1-1
Colorado is 2-0
Of the teams that have 3 trips or more?
Yeah, sucks for me but Vancouver is 0-3 (and every other team has at least one Cup victory, St. Louis win last year put them at 1-3)
List of Stanley Cup Finals Appearances
Only Detroit (11), Toronto (13) and the Montreal Canadians (24) have double digits.
Boston and Chicago are next with 6 each.
Edmonton and Pittsburgh each have 5.
New York Rangers and New York Islanders each have 4
The New Jersey Devils have 3
Philly, LA, and Colorado have 2
Ha! been doing multiple things for a while now, but this game is tied 2-2 and going to Sudden Death Overtime
Dallas forces game # 6!
watching the Stars success just makes me think “What IF”
No shit! When Vegas beat Vancouver, I figured easy-peasy path to victory.
And they don’t even give us the god-damned courtesy of doing-it-all?
Tampa Bay (in reality) should/will focus, and get a Cup Monday night, with D-man Victor Hedman getting the Conn Smyth Trophy.
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Dissing Dallas reminds me of dissing Edmonton in 2006 (after the lockout year).
“Edmonton will NOT make the playoffs”
“Ok, but they will not win the first round”
“Alright, but they will not make it past the second round”
“Dammit, they will FAIL in the Conference Finals”
“Fuck! But no way in Hell Edmonton wins the CUP!”
Carolina wins the 2006 Stanley Cup in 7 games
Ha! Told you! I’m always right!…
Any sport can be considered boring when no one scores.
Some people enjoy the journey. I happen to think Football and Baseball can be more boring because they are so regimented( plays and plate appearances) rather than the flow you see in soccer, hockey and basketball. Quality is always more important than Quantity. I watched the end of Cin-Phi game because it was the only thing on at the time. They were both pathetic and the score was 23-23 or like Sean was talking about, Game 5 of the Stanley Cup also went overtime and was much more interesting and the score was 3-2
It really comes down to how into the sport you are. If you appreciate the gameplay and dynamics, the score becomes incidental.
It really comes down to how into the sport you are. If you appreciate the gameplay and dynamics, the score becomes incidental.
To a degree but it’s also the mindset of the viewer.
I listened to a long rant this week why basketball is a silly game because you are expected to score on every possession. It’s basically a measure of which team fucks something up, 110-108 means one guy tripped over his shoelaces, even though the action is constant.
Then you’ll get those bemoaning US football or cricket for being so slow, too many breaks. The some will rag on soccer for too being low scoring even though the action barely stops.
Rivalry though is a massive thing, I’ll cheer on the most bullshit of sports in the Olympics if there’s a Welsh guy in it.
Quest complete: Tampa Bay Lightning blank Dallas Stars to capture elusive Stanley Cup
Looking at MLB playoffs, it almost feels like 2017 again. How did the 29-31 Astros get a better seed than 35-25 Indians and 32-28 Blue Jays? MLB really doesnt have a clue how to punish cheaters, does it?
The Jets and Giants are awful.
I saw the Ravens-Chiefs game and it just makes me realize the level those teams are on. It is like they drive the Ferrari and the Jets and Giants drive the Flintstone car.
It isn’t even that… When the team gets blown out by other teams (Bills, Niners) that are basically on their level on paper. It should have been a tight back and forth game on paper, not blowouts.
Anyway the Jets coach might get fired this Friday if they stink up the place against the Broncos. Good thing there are no fans or else…
https://sports.yahoo.com/ap-source-2-more-positives-stops-titans-return-133625548–nfl.html
My team is the Broncos and I live in Bills territory. Both their games are threatened by their opponents health.
edit: Bills-Titans is now Tues which moves Bills-Chiefs from Thursday to Sunday smh. Tennessee deliberately broke the rules(https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30070046/source-tennessee-titans-informed-rules-prior-players-informal-workouts )and now NFL is bending over backwards to accommodate them.
I hope that the NFL will step in and send a qualified crew into disinfect Tennessee’s stadium and make sure none of the players who test positive are on the field when Buffalo travels to Tennessee for the game.
Tom Brady
I’m not saying the New York Giants were robbed, but an 0-4 NYG that brought their best effort of the season deserves a better fate than 0-5
Also having Dallas win and lead the division with a 2-3 record is just all kinds of wrong.
And I still have a hard time seeing LVR.
What? Is something broken?
Oh, the Las Vegas Raiders.
Maybe one of these weeks it’ll sink in.
Hell, I’m just glad the Texans won. It’s amazing what can be accomplished when you remove a toxic element from an organization.
The Seattle Seahawks go to 5-0 for the first time in franchise history.
Well, Vancouver counts as Seahawks north, and I do count them as ‘my team’, but I don’t have the same vibe as the Superbowl year.
They could have a perfect season and Wilson coukd cement himself as one of the all time greats.
You just can’t give up that many points every game.
Playoffs are a different animal.
Maybe in Covid year…
NHL speculation.
Never let owners do the talking.
When asked about the wisdom of trading D-man Nate Schmidt to Vancouver (within the division), Vegas owner Foley replied: “It’s not going to matter. They will play in the Canadian Division.”
Yup. Next season is aiming for a Jan. 1st start, but the speculation is they’ll start with geographical divisions (or groupings).
The U.S. could have 3 – 5 divisions (at least to start).
No cross border traffic for a couple of months, and then wait for the governments to open things.
What if they don’t open the border?
I for one could not be more excited than to play to same hated teams 16-18 times in one season!
Fuck! It’s Canadian Cabin Fever at it’s worst.
Riots every weekend.
But beer sales would go through the roof.
The first paragraph of this story is so much fun for any Red Sox hater. Add that to the Broncos win and Boston sports fans must be loving life right now.
Should Trevor Lawrence stay in Clemson for one more year just to avoid being drafted by the Jets?
I heard a sports commentator last night opining that, with a new owner, the NY Mets may be contenders for a World Series next year.
I laughed so hard I pulled a muscle in my back. But it doesn’t hurt me as much as watching the Mets choke again.
So, I’m not a baseball guy, but sometimes I could easily be if I grab onto some hype.
This is not one of those times, and I don’t know anyone who is.
I mean, it’s the World Series, but, eh…
I get the feeling that lots are thinking the way I am (feel free to call me out if I’m wrong).
On a weird note, each city is guaranteed a Championship Double.
L.A. won in the NBA and Tampa Bay won in the NHL.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/30240929/nhl-2020-21-season-plans-latest-format-line-challenges
Hey @sean_robinson you might be getting more hockey up your way
The American Hockey League affiliates for the Canucks Oilers and Flames are all based in the U.S., and if the border situation remains as it is, a mandated 14-day quarantine would make recalls nearly impossible. That’s one of the reasons the AHL also is considering an all-Canadian division, with the possibility of temporarily moving the Utica Comets (Canucks) Bakersfield Condors (Oilers) and Stockton Heat (Calgary) to Canada for the 2020-21 season. Nothing is finalized on that front.
Jeopardy! is a game show, not a sport.
From Espn.com
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/30279564/aaron-rodgers-athletes-teams-remember-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek
So the NBA has said they want to start the next season on Dec. 22nd
Rumor has it there is some push back behind the scenes, but there is way too much money involved in their games on X-mas day.
Hockey? Well, the NHL did say they were targeting Jan. 1st as their start date.
However a lot are saying that is too soon (judging by what we’re still seeing with the pandemic).
The NHL is very different from the NBA with a lot of players from not only the U.S. and Canada, but Europe as well.
If 2 week isolations are still involved, the players are not interested in leaving their families until after X-mas.
The rumor going around is a 56 – game season to start late January.
This would allow the players to have X-mas, 2 weeks isolation upon arrival, and then a 2 week training camp.
We’ll know more soon – ish…
Money is always going to trump health and safety in the US. Sad but true.
He talks about the difficulties of traveling state to state. Last time I heard, NYS had restrictions when traveling into New York from 31 different states.
Los Angeles Dodgers Great Tommy Lasorda Hospitalized, Hall Of Fame Manager In Intensive Care
This basketball player James Harden just turned down 50M a year from his team the Houston Rockets.
He must really want out of there!!!
50M!!!
Just saying.
This basketball player James Harden just turned down 50M a year from his team the Houston Rockets.
He must really want out of there!!!
50M!!!
Just saying.
And I’ll be glad to see him go. He’s the reason why the Rockets choke post-season.
Report: James Harden, Russell Westbrook want out of Houston due to owner’s Trump support
So I can’t take my eyes off the NFL standings, particularly the NFC East.
Philadelphia leads the division with a 3-6-1 record?
Dallas, NY Giants, and Washington are tied at 3-7?
And one of these trainwrecks is guaranteed a playoff spot!
Thursday has Washington @ Dallas (4:30 ET)
Sunday has the Giants at Cincinnati (2-7-1)
Next Monday has Seattle (7-3) @ Philadelphia
Honestly, anyone can take this division, but the Giants control their own destiny.
I’m cheering for this to happen, but unsure if I’m giving a finger to the League, or have some serious issues, or what.
So I can’t take my eyes off the NFL standings, particularly the NFC East.
Philadelphia leads the division with a 3-6-1 record?
Dallas, NY Giants, and Washington are tied at 3-7?And one of these trainwrecks is guaranteed a playoff spot!
Thursday has Washington @ Dallas (4:30 ET)
Sunday has the Giants at Cincinnati (2-7-1)
Next Monday has Seattle (7-3) @ PhiladelphiaHonestly, anyone can take this division, but the Giants control their own destiny.
I’m cheering for this to happen, but unsure if I’m giving a finger to the League, or have some serious issues, or what.
You can tell an era in football has ended with the fall of the Patriots. They got beat by my Texans. THE TEXANS!!! Texans had only 2 wins going in. The Patriots have six losses for the first time since 2009 and are in danger of not making the playoffs for the first time since 2008.
https://medium.com/violence-examiner/which-martial-art-is-best-for-self-defense-7b8452ec4264
Honestly, anyone can take this division, but the Giants control their own destiny.
…and immediately get eliminated in the Wild-Card round.
I am a bit biased but those in charge of Covid in college and pro football do not know what they are doing. In the Pro’s Tennessee and Baltimore have gotten break after break despite being the worst cases of Covid. Meanwhile Buffalo got hosed because they had to prep for a Tuesday against Tenn and a Thurs against KC. Buff is 8-3 and excluding the Hail Murray against Ari, those 2 games are the only losses on Buffalo’s record.
Then a big FU. NFL told the Broncos on Friday that all their QBs were ruled out for a game 2 days later despite there being a rule saying if a entire position group is missing, the game can be postponed. They played and got destroyed But the Ravens without missing a position group has had their game moved twice.
In College(most likely the most corrupt sport in US) Ohio State has only played 4 games and is most likely headed for the playoff ahead of teams 9-0 and 8-0. Another big name team USC Trojans have only played 3 games, won them and is position to win the PAC 12 because their toughest game just got cancelled(traveling to also undefeated University of Colorado) there is the bias.
those in charge
of Covid in college and pro footballdo not know what they are doing
No lies detected. Carry on.
This season of F1 has been a wild ride, less so for the action on track (where Hamilton has again largely dominated) bar the crazy races at Monza and Turkey and Roman Grosjean’s horrific crash this Sunday, but moreso for the COVID elements. The shortened season has had to go to tracks not used for a while, or ever before (which has been a nice change), both Racing Points drivers have had to miss races after catching COVID (being replaced by fan-favourite Nico Hulkenberg each time), several teams have had pit crew go out with it, to the point where most of the Williams pit team at the moment aren’t very experienced at working directly on the car, and now Lewis Hamilton has tested positive for COVID.
Luckily for him, he’s already sewn up the championship two races ago, but it means the best car on the field is going spare for two races. This isn’t the kind of thing that happens very often. Mercedes haven’t announced who’s replacing him yet, but there are a few options:
Stoffel Vandoorne – Mercedes’ actual reserve driver and the obvious choice. Drove for McLaren a few years ago, when the car was shit, and was massively out-performed by Fernando Alonso, which took all the momentum out of his F1 car and saw him going to Formula E with Mercedes (where he’s doing pretty well). Trouble is, Vandoorne is currently in Spain for FE testing and so there’s a slim chance he may have to isolate upon arrival in Bahrain. Not entirely likely though, as he was scheduled to travel over after the FE test anyway, so they must be confident they can get him in no problems, but the fact they haven’t immediately announced him as the replacement is odd.
Esteban Gutirrez – drove for Haas and I think Sauber several years ago and was mediocre-terrible. Somehow has ended up at Mercedes as a test/development/sim driver. I can’t imagine anyone would be desperate to see him in the car, but it’s 2020, so it could happen. Although his super license may have expired, preventing him from doing it.
Nico Hulkenberg – he’s the Racing Point reserve driver, the most recently experienced F1 driver not in the field and I guess probably in Bahrain at the moment anyway. The Racing Point is basically last year’s Merc anyway, so it wouldn’t be a huge leap up to use the current one. He’s good enough that he’d probably get up to speed across the first race weekend, let alone the second and that might finally let him get his first podium (or even win) in F1. Which would make all the diehard fans like me happy, but it’s a longshot it’ll happen.
George Russell – Russell is a Mercedes academy driver (basically a young driver they’ve funded through their junior career) and currently drives for Williams where he’s sort of doing terribly. He’s just equalled the record for consecutively out-qualifying a teammate, at 36-0 across this season and last, which is impressive, I guess. Unfortunately for him, he’s also just tied for third in the all time list of races without a point at 36, which rather makes the qualifying record moot. He finished last in the championship last year (behind his teammate who scored a point and thus helped keep Williams solvent with the travel expense money they get for that) and is currently last in the championship this year (behind his new teammate who hasn’t scored a point but has had more higher place finishes). He was on course for a point a few races ago, when he crashed behind the safety car for literally no reason. Just swerved into the barriers as they were slowly going down a straight. It was hilarious. Despite this, there’s a huge amount of hype around Russell (not least from the British commentary teams) and he has a fervent fanbase of young fans and already loads of them are acting like he’s owed a go in the Mercedes, which goes along with the massive chip on his shoulder that comes across in interviews and the F1 Netflix documentary, where he really exudes the aura of thinking he’s destined to be at Mercedes and Williams is just something he has to put up with til he gets there. It would maybe make sense for Mercedes long term to give him a go in the car, if they think he’s a future team member, but I can’t see Williams wanting to give him up for the races (even if they get given Vandoorne or Hulkenberg in exchange), and short term it might not be worth the bother (especially if he crashes it again). But then Mercedes have already sewn up both championships this season, so what have they got to lose, really?
Anthony Davidson – part of the Sky F1 commentary team, but also Mercedes’ sim driver (by virtue of having been a driver at Honda’s B-team, Super Aguri in the late-00s, moving to the main Honda team as reserve driver when Super Aguri collapsed, staying there through it becoming Brawn and then when Mercedes bought the team. He’s practically part of the furniture). Hasn’t driven in an F1 race in 12 years, is over 40, but an endurance racing champion and familiar with the car (virtually at least). That would be the real cinderella story.
Whoever gets picked, it’s a wild end to a weird season. Oh, Grosjean is doing ok btw, with only minor burns on his hands, but will be replaced by Haas’ reserve driver for at least the next race. Given the huge fireball that went up when he crashed and the smouldering cinder that used to be his car, it’s pretty incredible.
I had a link here to an article that asked can Bruce Lee win a real fight. Now Bruce Lee is considered the GOAT of martial arts and it asked if he could transcend his era and win today. Which brings me to this little tirade:
Imho, the GOAT of any sport would have to be able to transcend his/her era and dominate any era you put them in. When Tom Brady won and people here were saying he was the GOAT, I said that he has the most rings, but would he have dominated in the 60’s and 70’s era of football when the level of play was rougher and teams talent weren’t as diluted? The same goes for Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Bird, and Magic in basketball. A lot of oldtimers before them said the rules were a little harder in their day… I can go on but by now you should get the point: GOAT depends on its going definition, and according to the way I defined it, it remains debatable.
Just saying…
On the other hand, people were shorter decades ago than they are now, and generally weren’t as fit as athletes today who have better training equipment and nutritional guidance. If you plopped Brady onto a 1970 NFL gridiron his height and agility, compared to the players of that era, might give him the advantage even though the game was rougher then.
In short, there is no point in calling someone the Greatest of All Time in general, as there is no fair way to measure and compare athletes 50 years or more apart. GOAT is subjective at best, and shortsighted at worst.
This is true… Jerry, once again is the voice of reason, a gentleman, and a scholar.
Now, I tried to get that Bruce Lee link here, but the forum wouldn’t let it. I wonder why…?
Stephen Jay Gould wrote an excellent book where he analyses the fact that baseball players are always getting better (faster and stronger due to better diet and training *cough*steroids*cough*, and pitching and hitting is measurable better) but there are no more .400 hitters like there used to be, and that’s why the greatest of all time were all back in the 1940s. (He explains it so that even as a Brit knowing nothing about baseball I understood the argument.)
Full House: The Spread of Excellence from Plato to Darwin – Wikipedia
(The UK edition of the book — the one I have — is called Life’s Grandeur.)
The book is actually a discussion of statistics as much as it is baseball, and how pure stats don’t always mean what you think they mean and why you can’t always compare two things over time just by looking at numbers. It’s a great book (all his books are), whether you’re interested in science or baseball.
That is debatable too. Even baseball commentators said that a lot of those records like hitting .400, all those homeruns, hitting streaks, etc. occurred during segregation, where whites never played against the good black talent. Kind of like winning a marathon when the Kenyan and other world class runners never came to give you competition.
I still liked Stephen Jay Gould though. My original point is that you can’t say anyone is a GOAT because you can’t compare a player now to a previous era of play and gauge how he would have done.
Even Bruce Lee….
Someone today looked back 10 years to the day Fifa awarded the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, a country with no football pedigree and no suitable stadia at the time it was awarded and where it also reaches 50 degrees celsius (122 F) in the usual month it is played.
22 people voted on the outcome of this decision. Of those 22, 15 are now either banned from FIFA for life, suspended, imprisoned or fighting extradition to the USA to face federal charges. Only, one still actually works for FIFA.
Well, it’s comforting to know that the US doesn’t hold the monopoly on blatant corruption.
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