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Bananas. Diesel. Armadillos. The square root of 1,364.

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  • #40013

    There is an added health component to a Wetherspoons over other pubs though, the 1.2km walk to find the bogs.

    In my experience of Wetherspoons many people seemingly never find them and piss straight into the beer pipes.

  • #40014

    There is an added health component to a Wetherspoons over other pubs though, the 1.2km walk to find the bogs.

    In my experience of Wetherspoons many people seemingly never find them and piss straight into the beer pipes.

    Ah, the British source of Budweiser is revealed!

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  • #40090

    For a short time there, just about every young one was encouraged to get into coding as “the next wave of the future” the hot thing to study and get into. So I took a class in Computer Science and learned C and a little Python (coding language) on the side. I can do it but it just is not for me. Doesn’t really pull me in and hold my interest. I guess I will miss out on making millions…

    Studies show that many graduate with degrees but they just aren’t in the STEM subjects, the really hard demanding subjects and there will be (probably already is in some fields) a shortage of specialists. Apparently, everybody wants to go to college, but nobody wants to take on the hard classes.

  • #40101

    there will be (probably already is in some fields) a shortage of specialists.

    In the US there is already a shortage of plumbers, electricians, painters, carpenters and other “blue collar” specialists, especially in big cities and surrounding suburbs. There are lots of people going into higher education for engineering degrees and computer programming degrees, but few who are learning trades. As a result a good plumber/electrician/tradesman is in high demand and can pretty much name his own price. High school guidance counselors would be doing a service to some students by recommending that they learn one of those trades.

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  • #40102

    Vocational Blue collar work like that in NYC depends on a lot. Union politics, if there is work or if work is slow, immigrants competing with you, the mob, and so on. I don’t even want to get into having minority status…

    My point originally is that coding is not for me and not too many American college students want to take on the tougher majors.

  • #40110

    Coding has been touted as this great solution when there really aren’t that many opportunities.

    And really, it’s a game for the young. for the better end of the pay scale, you’re putting in god-awful amounts of time that tends to burn out most people by the time they hit 30.

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  • #40142

    In the US there is already a shortage of plumbers, electricians, painters, carpenters and other “blue collar” specialists, especially in big cities and surrounding suburbs. There are lots of people going into higher education for engineering degrees and computer programming degrees, but few who are learning trades. As a result a good plumber/electrician/tradesman is in high demand and can pretty much name his own price. High school guidance counselors would be doing a service to some students by recommending that they learn one of those trades.

    It’s the same in the UK. In recent years 50% of school leavers go to university. When I went in 1893 I think it was less than a fifth of that. Obviously I’m all in favour of education and I wish we lived in a world where 100% of the population could be free to learn anything they wanted while robots did the hard work. But the reality is that we don’t need 50% of the population to be graduates, and many of them will end up in low-level jobs that they are vastly over-qualified for. A few more people trained in plumbing or other skilled trades would be far more useful to society (and probably more fulfilled personally) than another Media Studies graduate filling in Excel spreadsheets for a  living.

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  • #40145

    I couldn’t do a job sitting behind a computer all day, I’d end up throwing the computer through the office. I would much prefer doing some kind of physical labour.

  • #40148

    When I went in 1893 I think it was less than a fifth of that.

    Damn, you’re old!

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  • #40152

    DavidM wrote:
    When I went in 1893 I think it was less than a fifth of that.

    Damn, you’re old!

    That would explain DavidM’s fascination with music that has harpsichords and lutes…

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  • #40171

    DavidM wrote:
    When I went in 1893 I think it was less than a fifth of that.

    Damn, you’re old!

    That would explain DavidM’s fascination with music that has harpsichords and lutes…

    We need to get him into bardcore.

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  • #40195

    Pop songs don’t last long enough.

  • #40204

    Some pop songs last far too long.

  • #40221

    Pop songs don’t last long enough

    https://qz.com/quartzy/1438412/the-reason-why-your-favorite-pop-songs-are-getting-shorter/

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  • #40321

    High school guidance counselors would be doing a service to some students by recommending that they learn one of those trades.

    In my experience, the parents don’t want to hear that.

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  • #40360

    In my experience, the parents don’t want to hear that.

    Certainly in some cultures parents want their children to be doctors or lawyers, but if all you want is for your child to do better than you financially, get him or her an apprenticeship with a plumber or electrician.

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  • #40377

    but if all you want is for your child to do better than you financially, get him or her an apprenticeship with a plumber or electrician.

    Just… give the child all your money? You’ll have nothing and they’ll be… doing better than you financially.

  • #40399

    Certainly in some cultures parents want their children to be doctors or lawyers, but if all you want is for your child to do better than you financially, get him or her an apprenticeship with a plumber or electrician.

    I completely agree. I’m just saying as far as high school counselling is concerned, they do already recommend that. I know that here in Germany at least, we try our best to give that advice to students who are unlikely to succeed in an academic field, and the experience is that parents most of the time are not very open to this.

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  • #40402

    Vocational Blue collar work like that in NYC depends on a lot. Union politics

    It is really for plumbers and electricians? I don’t know the situation in New York but the places I’ve lived those roles are mostly freelancers. They get the training, certification, some tools and a van and they’re off and running.

  • #40403

    For big commercial projects in the NYC area, most of the big contractors are unionized, and hire primarily union subcontractors for plumbing, electrical, etc. just to avoid the complications and bad publicity of picket lines. Small businesses and home-owners typically hire a tradesman who is self-employed or a small non-union labor, as the Unions won’t bother putting pressure on such small clients. I should note that those small operators still have to be registered with the NYC Department of Buildings and maintain the appropriate insurances (Workers Compensation, Disability, Liability, etc) in order to apply for permits; but many of them don’t bother and take the risk that they won’t get caught and fined.

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  • #40674

    You know:

    I am not a crusader for good English grammar, but I am none too crazy about these new “words” I read on social media.

    Words such as “normalize” and “weaponize”. I prefer to say make normal and make into a weapon.

    What is with these words anyway?

  • #40677

    From Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

    First known use of weaponize is from 1957.

    First known use of normalize is from 1847.

    So “weaponize” is older than the treaty of Rome, and thus the EEC and the European Union, while “normalize” is older than the country Germany.

    But to your point, I like new words. The world is changing, we need new words to map it out.

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  • #40690

    Stop awfulizing everything, Al. You’re so sus.

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  • #40694

    You’re so sus.

    After playing Among Us with a load of kids over the weekend, I have heard a lot of this lately.

  • #40699

    You know:

    I am not a crusader for good English grammar, but I am none too crazy about these new “words” I read on social media.

    Words such as “normalize” and “weaponize”. I prefer to say make normal and make into a weapon.

    What is with these words anyway?

    I see it is time to post one of my favourites again:

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  • #40722

    I bet Calvin is who popularised “gift” as a verb, the little shit. That raises my hackles every time I hear it.

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  • #40725

    Regarding English, I find a frustration with people over others who have been in the country for over twenty years, have children who speak English, yet don’t speak English well themselves. They still speak a “broken” form of English after all this time.

    It happens when they stay in their own social circle speaking their native language all the time. Surprising that they don’t pick up the language watching American TV or movies.

  • #40729

    Creating new words embiggens us as a people.

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  • #40730

    Bigly

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  • #40732

    Regarding English, I find a frustration with people over others who have been in the country for over twenty years, have children who speak English, yet don’t speak English well themselves. They still speak a “broken” form of English after all this time.

    It happens when they stay in their own social circle speaking their native language all the time. Surprising that they don’t pick up the language watching American TV or movies.

    Like the american black community?

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  • #40788

    Actually, is Airplane now on the blacklistlist of unapproved films due to that scene?

    (Serious question.)

  • #40789

    Regarding English, I find a frustration with people over others who have been in the country for over twenty years, have children who speak English, yet don’t speak English well themselves. They still speak a “broken” form of English after all this time.

    It happens when they stay in their own social circle speaking their native language all the time. Surprising that they don’t pick up the language watching American TV or movies.

    There is a great number of factors that contribute to immigrants not learning the language of the country they’ve migrated to, and it’s usually not because they don’t want to.

    Where TV and movies are concerned, I think globalisation has actually made things somewhat harder; these days, you can usually get your original home country’s television, and the kids mostly do everything with the internet anyway, so they find native language content easily.

  • #40791

    Actually, is Airplane now on the blacklistlist of unapproved films due to that scene?

    (Serious question.)

    None of this will ever affect the German dub is all I know, because in a stroke of genius the synchronisation studio didn’t try and go for some kind of German street slang, but instead has them speaking in the Bavarian dialect.

    I swear, if you can speak German, this variation is really, really funny.

    As for answering the question seriously… I think this is the kind of scene you probably wouldn’t in this way today, but on the other hand it’s not all that far from the kind of thing Key and Peele have been doing until recently. Nobody is in blackface and the humour of the scene is in the absurdity of the old white lady speaking slang; I don’t think that’s very problematic?

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  • #40793

    My brother was posted to Bosch in Stuttgart during his sandwich year in university. He spent a few months trying to get some basic German listening to linguaphone tapes and he’s quite good at self learning so got at least to a level he could carry out a simple conversation.

    On his first day he introduced himself in German and got the response ‘ah you’re from the UK, great, I can practice my English’. He had that so often that he didn’t really use the German much at all and when he got home a year later wasn’t that much better than when a left.

    It links to your first point because for many people they don’t learn easily on their own and need some formal instruction, while people in monoglot English speaking countries often moan about immigrants not learning the language they don’t do very much to help them. There’s irony present in how they expect it to be easily done with little support when they have never learnt a second language themselves.

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  • #40796

    In the German refugee/immigration discussion, one of the little absurdities was that last year or so, people complained a lot that so many immigrants hadn’t learned any German yet and there was a political debate about making taking language courses mandatory (and tying that to monetary benefits – if you don’t take a language course, you’d be punished by having the monthly money you get to survive being reduced). At the same time, if you looked at the actual situation, the problem wasn’t that immigrants refused (or didn’t bother to) take language courses but that there weren’t enough of them being offered, and that they didn’t have the skills to maneuvre the German bureaucratic system well enough to get the free courses (what with there only being German-language application forms and whatnot).

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  • #40799

    It’s an interesting contrast in Wales because Welsh speakers are bilingual and naturally very keen to promote their minority language. So they provide more resources and volunteer free classes for refugees that they don’t necessarily get in English from central government.

     

     

  • #40801

    Any questions?

    Thank you for you attention.

    And anyway, that’s why I’m posting like this.

    He was one smart guy, that’s all I can say.

    Frankly, I don’t know how Merlin managed it.

    Because it’s quite difficult to remember what you have to have done next.

    I might not be able to maintain it.

    For a trial period, anyway.

    I have decided to live my life backwards.

  • #40814

    Nope, seems pretty clear to me. Good luck!

    Also, this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time%27s_Arrow_(novel)

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  • #40841

    Bayrisch sounds to me like someone speaking mock Yiddish.

    Edit: I looked up the differences between Bayrisch and Standard German, and it makes sense I heard some Yiddish. Bayrisch grammar is more like Yiddish grammar then that of Standard German, and the forms is for ist and a for ein are common between Bayrisch and Yiddish. The r sound and the shift of a to o are also commonalities, but most of the other phonetic differences are more like standard German in Yiddish.

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  • #40861

    “Bayrisch”? Is that the one that starred David Hasselhoff and Pamela Anderson?

  • #40865

    Of course, did you forget who is the #1 performer in Germany?

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  • #40986

    I was talking about The Trialm of the Chicago 7 movie with a friend today, saying that I was willing to watch this solely for Sacha Baron Cohens involvement. My friend interjected with “Oh! It’s also got that guy, Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay!” and I immediately both knew exactly who he was talking about and burst out laughing.

    That’s his name now. Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay.

  • #41001

    Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay.

    Devoid of all other context, “Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay” sounds like something the immigrant character with hilariously broken English in some shitty movie would say to prove they know about western pop culture.

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  • #41016

    Like Borat.

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  • #41026

    Like Borat.

    Well a lot of context just slammed into me all at once there

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  • #41027

    HIGH FIVE!

  • #41141

    This is weird: things keep evolving into crabs.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34389129/crab-evolution-carcinization/

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  • #41151

    This is weird: things keep evolving into crabs.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34389129/crab-evolution-carcinization/

    #lifegoals

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  • #41180

    It’s not as weird as that time when everything was turning into cake.

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  • #41181

    This surely means crab cakes are the optimum form for all things on the planet.

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  • #41301

    It’s not as weird as that time when everything was turning into cake.

    Metabolically bisturbile.

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  • #41457

    Something Gar might be interested in, I think.

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  • #41541

    Last night I dreamt I was at an airsoft happening in a big warehouse but I somehow got a real gun.

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  • #41560

    Something Gar might be interested in, I think.

    Never heard of Pat Sharp on this side of the pond. All this time I thought Gar’s avatar was Lief Garrett.

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  • #41631

    Never heard of Pat Sharp on this side of the pond

    I wouldn’t expect you to, I doubt many people in the UK under 30 know who he is and at best he was a minor TV presenter 2o+ years ago.

    I just like his silly 80s hair for my avatar which have always carried a theme of obscure D-list British celebs.

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  • #41701

    Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay.

    Devoid of all other context, “Huey Lewis Gordon Ramsay” sounds like something the immigrant character with hilariously broken English in some shitty movie would say to prove they know about western pop culture.

    That movie is a guilty pleasure of mine, and Hueylewis is his youngest son, and is a traditional name in his version of his country

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  • #41790

    Few things:

    My barbershop (Astor Place) is going to close down the end of the month because of Covid. They lost 90% revenue so…
    Now I will go one last time before they close for good, exchange numbers with my barber, maybe follow him where he goes etc..
    Or find a new place and new guy I can trust. Decisions, decisions…

    —–

    All these streaming subscriptions… I might get CBS All Access for all the Star Trek shows and other things. Seems to offer more for me. 5.99 (really 6 bucks) a month, comes out to 72 a year. Not bad, but things are slow these days. Again decisions, decisions.
    Any ideas?

    ——

    Might change my avatar again. Won’t go crazy like the old MW days but…

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  • #41815

    All these streaming subscriptions… I might get CBS All Access for all the Star Trek shows and other things. Seems to offer more for me. 5.99 (really 6 bucks) a month, comes out to 72 a year. Not bad, but things are slow these days. Again decisions, decisions. Any ideas?

    Have you seen much of the new Star Trek stuff yet? I quite enjoy Discovery but thought Picard was a bit dull.

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  • #41826

    I would look at $72 a year and think, I could buy the full Star Trek original series on Blu-Ray for that. And then next year, all of TNG. Then next year…

     

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  • #41843

    I would look at $72 a year and think, I could buy the full Star Trek original series on Blu-Ray for that. And then next year, all of TNG. Then next year…

     

    The problem is they haven’t done Blu-ray releases of DS9 and Voyager and likely won’t because of poor sales on the later years of TNG

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  • #41856

    Anyway, I am on the proverbial fence trying to decide to go for the streaming or not… I need a little more content and better word of mouth.

    ——–

    As for the pictures thread, @davewallace saw what I was doing and did a send up of it. Well done! I found it funny as well.
    Not all the pictures have to be funny but they can be interesting, thus expanding on the thread. I found what @stevesensible posted on Mr. Rogers and Thor to be cool…

    ———

    Oh, and for now my avatar for those inquiring is the singer Halsey. And don’t worry: I will refrain from posting booty pictures in the picture thread. :-)

  • #41857

    As for the pictures thread, @davewallace saw what I was doing and did a send up of it.

    Was it a send-up or just a follow-up?

  • #41865

    Yes.

  • #41951

    https://people.com/movies/scarlett-johansson-colin-jost-married/?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=5f9b13c68752e70001756cfa&fbclid=IwAR2maoL02QhBW1BcY2KaRSfO4AQV9PHTZpOvUF_6o7yG1Wj_lYLLZKHjhlg

  • #41994

    Random puzzle for @Al-x (or anyone else):

    What is the maximum number of knights you can place on a chessboard in such a way that none of them can take any other one (hypothetically, not as part of a real game of chess)

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  • #41997

    32

  • #42000

    64, if they’re all of the same colour.

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  • #42003

    1,437, if you have a strong enough table.

  • #42049

    24

  • #42062

    Pi

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  • #42063

    I was watching The Expanse just now and noticed a TV meme, specifically American, that has been going on for ages but is a bit silly.

    Pouring and drinking  large glasses of whisky all the time.

    Whisky (or whiskey) is a very strong beverage but right back to watching Dallas as a kid characters in these shows keep knocking back glasses of it with seemingly no impairment.

    I’d like a new version where they decide all this business and machinations shit is a waste of time and it’d be good to have a karaoke session followed by an unhealthy takeaway. Then fall down.

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  • #42090

    I…noticed a TV meme, specifically American, that has been going on for ages but is a bit silly.

    Pouring and drinking large glasses of whisky all the time.

    That’s an unfair generalization, Gar.

    Sometimes we drink gin. Or vodka.

    Occasionally rum…

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  • #42094

    Sometimes we drink

    Upvoting Obama | Know Your Meme

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  • #42106

    “Terror” vs. “Horror”: Which One Is Worse?

  • #42125

    https://people.com/movies/scarlett-johansson-colin-jost-married/?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=5f9b13c68752e70001756cfa&fbclid=IwAR2maoL02QhBW1BcY2KaRSfO4AQV9PHTZpOvUF_6o7yG1Wj_lYLLZKHjhlg

    Okay, you got me, Al. I clicked and now I know that Scarlett is with a guy called Colin Jost, who looks encouragingly average and is a comedian I have never heard of. I also now know that it’s her third marriage (in her thirties! Bloody hell, Scarlett!).

    So… thanks, I guess?

    “Terror” vs. “Horror”: Which One Is Worse?

    Many of the most suspenseful moments of fiction—within the Gothic genre or others—are caused by terror. As writer and editor Lincoln Michel notes, “Terror is the feeling of dread and apprehension at the possibility of something frightening.” He describes horror as “the shock and repulsion of seeing the frightening thing.” A Gothic novel can use terror to build suspense, while works of horror often put extreme violence on full display. Of course, some novels combine elements of the two.

    This reminds me of the Jamie Delano Hellblazer GN The Horrorist, drawn by David Loyd. I need to reread that one.

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  • #42142

    32

    Correct.

    It baffled me until I finally figured out the (obvious, really) reason.

    64, if they’re all of the same colour.

    Good try, but I think I covered this by saying not a real game of chess :P

  • #42147

    It baffled me until I finally figured out the (obvious, really) reason.

    Presumably it’s alternating stripes of knights, because each can only take on either the stripe one square or three squares across?

  • #42149

    32

    Correct.

    It baffled me until I finally figured out the (obvious, really) reason.

    It was a question on QI some time ago, but to be fair, I answered it correctly before Sue Perkins gave the correct answer.

  • #42150

    It baffled me until I finally figured out the (obvious, really) reason.

    Presumably it’s alternating stripes of knights, because each can only take on either the stripe one square or three squares across?

    A knight’s move always ends on a different colour to the one it started on. But even knowing that, it wasn’t until I started arranging pieces on the board that I realised how that fact basically answered the puzzle.

  • #42151

    It baffled me until I finally figured out the (obvious, really) reason.

    Presumably it’s alternating stripes of knights, because each can only take on either the stripe one square or three squares across?

    A knight’s move always ends on a different colour to the one it started on. But even knowing that, it wasn’t until I started arranging pieces on the board that I realised how that fact basically answered the puzzle.

    Ah, got you.

  • #42176

    Tonight, most of us set the clocks back an hour, back to standard time.
    This means for me in NYC, it will get real dark starting at 5pm…

    Depressing.

  • #42185

    We really need to do away with Daylight Savings Time. It just confuses me when I’m trying to figure out if my relatives in Europe are 5 hours or 6 hours ahead of me.

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  • #42229

    I think you’re focusing on the wrong end of the day, Al. When our clocks changed last weekend I got an extra hour of light in the morning :unsure:

  • #42243

    There’s lots of discussion about staying on DST, but don’t count on my vote.
    At the darkest point in the year sunrise wouldn’t happen until almost 9:00 AM.

    No way. I’m all for doing away with changing, just keep it the way it is now (Standard Time).
    Plus, I just got back my hour you stole from me.
    Don’t think you’re going to take from me without paying it back!

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  • #42245

    Do American parents ever really name their sons “Bubba”, or is it a nickname?

  • #42246

    Do American parents ever really name their sons “Bubba”, or is it a nickname?

    It wouldn’t surprise me if it has happened but it tends to be a nickname.

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  • #42447

    Hey y’all I’m back. I’m going to post funny pictures mostly. And tell you what beer I’m drinking.

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  • #42454

    Great to have you back Arjan.

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  • #42455

    Thanks I had a rough couple of weeks and I noticed posting here was a bit “triggering”. So I had to stop for a while. I feel a lot better now but I don’t think I am going to engage in any heavy debating.

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  • #42459

    Good to have you back, Arjan!

    If you think a particular thread might be triggering, it is best to avoid it.

    On the other hand, The Thread of Goodness and Positivity can always use new content!

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  • #42491

    I don’t think I am going to engage in any heavy debating

    So you don’t want to weigh in on whether MAN OF STEEL is better than PROMETHEUS?

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  • #42494

    No but I’ll argue about wether Belgian beer is better or German.

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  • #42495

    I had a parcel left with a neighbor while I was out shopping.

    As it’s illegal for me to meet my neighbor at the moment, the best plan I can think of is to throw stones at his window from the garden gate until he looks out, then mime him putting my parcel in the street while I back off :unsure:

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  • #42506

    As it’s illegal for me to meet my neighbor at the moment, the best plan I can think of is to throw stones at his window from the garden gate until he looks out, then mime him putting my parcel in the street while I back off

    Don’t forget coronavirus can remain active on various surfaces for hours or even days, so he’d better just leave it in the street for you to retrieve on Monday.

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  • #42513

    Have you tried telephoning him?

  • #42517

    Have you tried telephoning him?

    I was going to ask that question, but do neighbors share their phone numbers these days? my wife has the cellphone number of one of my immediate neighbors, the family that was living on this block when we moved in 30 years ago. But we don’t have the numbers of any other neighbors on the block, despite conversing with some of them on a regular basis.

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