The Eurovision 2022 Thread

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It’s that time again…

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Eurovision 2023: UK host city will need to cancel other events to make way for contest

Hoping Aberdeen is unsuccessful as we were hoping to take the kids to the dinosaur thing mentioned in the Aberdeen list.

On the other hand, apparently we have a way of stopping Celine Dion from coming to Birmingham.

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DavidM, Bruce, Todd

We could just feed Dion to the dinosaurs.

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DavidM, Dave, Todd

Bruce wrote:

Dion to the dinosaurs

All chickens are dinosaurs (but all dinosaurs aren’t chickens)

Bruce wrote:

Eurovision 2023: UK host city will need to cancel other events to make way for contest

Right, that’s it, now cancel culture has gone too far.

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Presumably this is a problem for the host city every year, it’s not some exceptional problem caused by the UK “stepping in” at short notice. For the host country, it’s always going to be short notice because you never know if you’re going to win the contest, and big arenas are always fully booked years in advance.

 

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It sounds all a bit overblown to me. In the end the song contest is one night and they want a venue with around 10,000 seats. I’m too lazy to count but I believe 8 UK cities have put their hat in to host it, I’m sure they will do fine. It’s not that hard, it will sell out and the TV people know what they are doing.

Its a fun habit of the media to forecast disaster for any major event, they do it by default but it almost never actually happens. There were endless articles written about how the London 2012 Olympics would be a disaster and almost everything was perfect. Games in Rio, World Cups in Brazil and South Africa, they were all fine. This will be fine. There is nothing to worry about.

I don’t think anyone is predicting disaster, the organisers just seem to be saying they need the venue to clear its schedule for six or seven weeks in the leadup for setup and rehearsals, which seems like a lot.

I think they should do the opposite, just wing it and throw the whole thing together on the night, and see if anyone notices the difference.

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garjones

garjones wrote:

it almost never actually happens

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Todd

Dave wrote:

I think they should do the opposite, just wing it and throw the whole thing together on the night, and see if anyone notices the difference.

Billy Mcfarland was released from prison earlier this year, I’m sure he’d love to help.

garjones wrote:

This will be fine. There is nothing to worry about.

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Dave

garjones wrote:

Its a fun habit of the media to forecast disaster for any major event, they do it by default but it almost never actually happens. There were endless articles written about how the London 2012 Olympics would be a disaster and almost everything was perfect. Games in Rio, World Cups in Brazil and South Africa, they were all fine. This will be fine. There is nothing to worry about.

Hold that thought until after the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

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njerry wrote:

Hold that thought until after the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

Yeah that’s fair. 😂

garjones wrote:

It sounds all a bit overblown to me. In the end the song contest is one night

It’s not one night, there are two semi-finals and there are several dress rehearsals, plus technical rehearsals etc.. My friend goes every year with a press pass and spends two whole weeks in the media/press office provided by the host arena (with trips out for parties hosted in the embassies of competing countries who want good press coverage). Hosting Eurovision is a lot more than the one night we see.

 

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garjones

Apologies, I now agree it will take most of the year and be unsustainable. That’s why 8 cities are fighting to bid for the pain. 😉

On a more serious note you guys are better informed on the details and I genuinely welcome that but I do have an inherent recoil to the immediate negative stories in the British press about any event which is ever awarded. The ‘doom’ article follows quickly but in the end it all turn out fine again. If Tallin in tiny little Estonia managed fine then I’m sure Sheffield or Birmingham can too.

I genuinely haven’t seen any “doom” articles saying it’s going to be a disaster. I’m sure they’re out there somewhere, but after so many recent successful international events being held in the UK, some of which last weeks or even months, it seems a bit silly to say that holding Eurovision is beyond the country’s abilities.

garjones wrote:

The ‘doom’ article follows quickly but in the end it all turn out fine again. If Tallin in tiny little Estonia managed fine then I’m sure Sheffield or Birmingham can too.

I agree on that. That’s why I said, this must happened every year to every winner. It’s always a “last minute” choice of host arena, and arenas always operate on a two-year booking cycle which will therefore be disrupted for them, and yet somehow it still always works. There’s no need for doom and gloom just because poor Elton John might have to cancel a single show on his tour (for which somebody’s insurance will richly compensate him).

 

Dave wrote:

I genuinely haven’t seen any “doom” articles

You need to scroll faster. The doom is there. Just keep scrolling.

Looks like it’ll be Liverpool or Glasgow.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/sep/27/eurovision-song-contest-2023-to-be-hosted-in-liverpool-or-glasgow

Liverpool.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/07/liverpool-to-host-eurovision-song-contest-on-behalf-of-ukraine

BUMP!!!

Germany has voted for who’s going to represent us. There was actually a pretty good variety of stuff in there, a lot of which was truly terrible but the kind of song that has pretty good chances at the ESC. The winning band is a glam metal kind of thing though, which is good fun.

They’re usually more of a dark metal band apparently, and have been at it for quite a while.

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lorcan_nagle

Holy shit, Lord of the Lost?! Between this and Hatari a few years ago the Goth/Industrial subculture is making a big inroad into Eurovision. Ireland should totally get VNV Nation to go.

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Christian

Hatari gave such a great performance, too. I voted for them.

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lorcan_nagle

Christian wrote:

Germany has voted for who’s going to represent us.

I was rooting for Patty Gurdy. It would have meant that for the probably the first time ever there would be a song in Eurovision by somebody I actually own albums by.

On the bright side, Australia have entered a progressive metal band. It’s not a band I’m a fan of, but I will probably still have to vote for them as a matter of principle.

 

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The UK entry is very Eurovision.

Yeah, it is. It’s alright, it’s catchy enough. But, you know, bland.

Feels a bit Dua Lipa-lite to me.

Yeah it sounds very current pop in the verse, then the chorus has a chunk of la-la-la Eurovision-ness. Someone has worked to what they feel is a winning formula there but I agree with Christian that it ends up quite bland.

From the PopBitch gossip email:

Quite a few people have noticed that the UK’s recently revealed Eurovision entry sounds not entirely dissimilar to our disastrous nul points entry from 2003, Cry Baby. Both are in A minor, both are within a few beats per minute of each other, both feature prominent Spanish-tinged guitar riffs.

Don’t worry if you don’t quite hear it yet; you’ll have a great opportunity come May. Because to mark 20 years since their own absolute pantsing in Riga, with Eurovision returning to their home city of Liverpool…

Jemini are reforming.