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First, dropping three eps, constructed as a mini-arc, is a very smart move. Does it work? Yes, it does.
The opening with Cassian going from disaster to quick learner was funny, especially in a series where everyone seems to pilot with ease.
Did I recognise the moon he was on? Nope. Talking of, that strand with a load of idiot rebels was funny and sharp.
The wedding on Chandrila was a smart depiction of how the trappings of aristocracy can be a trap. Social mobility loses its lustre when you see what lurks at the top. Polite conversations masking murderous ambitions.
Talking of ambition, Krennic acting as if he is running everything only heightens the stabbing he’ll receive from Tarkin. The entire sequence in the room was well executed.
For an ambitious, climb over the corpses of her enemies, high-flyer, Dedra has a surprising blind spot in thinking she can say no to Krennic. The later sequence with Syril’s mother could almost win you over, until you remember there’s nothing good about Syril, who’s swapping one predator for another.
Talking of saying no, the plot with Bix and Lieutenant Krole was superbly creepy. Having placed that gun on the wall, would they fire it? Yes, they did.
And then there was Brasso. Damn, that one hurt, as did the betrayal that led to it. Did Kallen get Lando’s choice? We don’t know. What we do know is Cassian inflicted a fitting vengeance on the Empire.
Running through all these is the sense of the Empire hanging over the galaxy, tightening its grip, while enabling casual cruelties. ANH’s breezy, speedy style obscured just how grim things are, Andor places that in full focus.
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I watched all three episodes of the first batch tonight. I think it’s a really good, well-made show, and I think releasing them three at a time is a good plan given the pacing.
It’s just intelligently-written stuff that makes you care about the characters, and also illustrates nicely both the cost of resistance and the price of living under an oppressive regime. There’s some good characters development in there and I also think the humour is nicely judged – the meal with Syril’s mother was great.
I wouldn’t recommend this for kids but it’s a nice adult take on Star Wars and I’m looking forward to seeing how it all plays out. Plus the show looks incredible, very cinematic in places.
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I read Brassos attack on Kellen after being captured as an attempt to help Kellen. He did not think that Kellen betrayed him, but wanted the empire to think that he did, so that they would see Kellen as a guy who would betray refugees rather than help them, and therefore not suspect him of any wrongdoings.
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Watched the first two episodes yesterday, will watch the third one tonight.
It’s good to be back in this world. Loved the rivalling rebel group idiots, and the TIE fighter sequence, and the other arcs are building nicely. Also, that rapey Imperial officer was creepy as fuck.
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So I think this is the series my brother worked on. Maybe only for episode 10 though.
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There was a lot of humour in the episodes, the bickering of the shitty Rebels on Yavin, a lot of wordplay at the wedding, but it was all very wry and for the most part fit into the idiom of the show. It’s the biggest change from series 1 so far.
I did laugh a lot, especially in the third episode, with the absurdity of the wedding and the fantastically funny scene with Syril, Deedra and Eedy (like you said). The show is doing great in balancing the wry sense of humour with a sense of impending doom.
Third episode did great in drawing it all together.
The entire sequence in the room was well executed.
That was my son’s favourite scene. He called it their Wannseekonferenz.
I am wondering about one loose thread:
Is Andor really going to let those guys die on Yavin? I mean, they were fucking idiots, but they were also in a tough situation and lost their heads. I hope that we find out at some point that he told somebody where to find them.1 user thanked author for this post.
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We need to talk about the Brasso track.
It’s superb stuff, but listening to the track on its own there’s a very clever discordance running through it. It zips along but there’s these notes that are off, they don’t feel right, which is the point.
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So I just realised they’re gonna Jurassic Bark the ending of the show. We’ll get Andor dying on Scarif and then cut to B2EMO waiting patiently for him on the agricultural planet as the people he was left with age and die.
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Andor S2 eps 4-6
A quieter set of episodes with a literal banger of an ending
That Tarkin already landed a cruiser on a crowd renders an already nasty plan by the ISB as even more sicker and twisted. The sole point of building the armoury to overshadow the massacre monument is to inflame the population and enable a second slaughter.
Dedra and Syril remain a toxic couple, even as Syril finds himself on the receiving end of the ISB treatment. Syril also has no idea how to lead a team save hierarchy tyranny.
Talking of leadership, while Saw gets high on his own supply, it’s interesting how both Luthen and Partagaz both don’t see any pastoral dimension to it. Partagaz actively encourages infighting, while Luthen thinks compartmentalising everything is the solution in all instances.
Like the last arc, we see the effects of the Empire at all levels of society, even the aristocracy. The verbal duelling between Mothma and Krennic was very clever, plus even Perrin got some good lines in this set.
And then there are the Ghorman rebels, who ask for an honest assessment of their ability and get offended when it is supplied. The best idiot rebels are those too arrogant to accept they are so. Thus Cinta is killed by an idiot boy with a blaster he was told not to bring.
Bix’s revenge on Dr Gorst was delicious. And then Cassian blows the office up for good measure!
World design, effects, soundtrack, the attention to little details, like the Empire pledge or Rylanz believing the Empetor to be more benevolent, it was all very good. Although, given what happened to Brasso last week, I knew one of their number would be up when Vel and Cinta were reunited. Just didn’t know the how, when or why of it.
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So I just realised they’re gonna Jurassic Bark the ending of the show. We’ll get Andor dying on Scarif and then cut to B2EMO waiting patiently for him on the agricultural planet as the people he was left with age and die.
Fuck you very much for this, I’m off to have a cry.
You monster! :D3 users thanked author for this post.
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So I just realised they’re gonna Jurassic Bark the ending of the show. We’ll get Andor dying on Scarif and then cut to B2EMO waiting patiently for him on the agricultural planet as the people he was left with age and die.
They’ll just wipe his memory and everything will be okay!
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“I w-w-w-ant C-c-c-c-c-c-cassian”
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My favourite comment in revies of this batch of episodes has been “of course they have sex with the lights off”
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My favourite comment in revies of this batch of episodes has been “of course they have sex with the lights off”
When I thought of them having sex, the word “perfunctory” was the first thing to pop into my mind.
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I just finished the latest batch of episodes (clearly, keeping up with three per week is almost proving too much for me).
It continues to be a really, really good show. Well directed and acted, smartly written with some complex storytelling that sometimes takes a while to pay off, but always does. It’s the birth of the rebellion as a gritty political thriller and somehow it works really well.
I also love the way it’s bringing in allusions to all sorts of real-life examples of rebellions and resistance and using that as shorthand so that we quickly get what’s going on in a given situation. (Although I have to admit, the space-French did make me laugh a little bit.)
Looking forward to more.
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I was a bit worried that the pace of the story was going to make it hard to empathise with the new additions to the cast, but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking hell, the Ghorman massacre was so tense and as we saw those dipshits get shot down I felt bad for every single one of them. And then laughed as Syril grew a conscience for about eighteen seconds and then threw it all away only to get shot.
And then somehow, for a second I felt bad for Eedy.
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All right, general non-spoiler stuff first.
Even by the standards the series has set for itself, this trio easily exceeeded them. There is some stunning ambition across the set, with skilful execution that realises it.
But there’s no way to talk of that without spoilers so…
The first episode that lays out the pieces so quietly, yet you know where it is going. Cassian and Wilmon’s return to Ghorman, the heavier, more sombre atmosphere there, Dedra and Syril, the complicit journalists, the Ghor… it’s all arrayed masterfully. Nor does it limit itself to Ghorman, as Yavin now hosts a far more armed and organised rebellion.
The second episode is an exemplary piece of work. Even as you think you know the Empire’s plot, the actual thing itself is even more twisted and evil. There is very clever timing in the build-up to the inevitable detonation, which it then sustains all the way to the end.
Amid all the mayhem, it also shows Syril the truth of his relationship to the perpetually bulldog chewing on a wasp Dedra. It makes it very clear Dedra only thinks she loves him, when what she loves is control. Then, as he flees her and sees all the mayhem in the plaza, the show dangles the notion, ever so briefly, that he may turn on the Empire.
Then he sees Cassian and it’s all gone because, really, it’s only ever been about Syril. His anger and outrage at Dedra? Not for the sake of the Ghor, but that he was fooled, that he lost. And Syril Karn cannot lose, after all, if he does, what would his mother say?
Then the show pulls the trigger – Syril does get the drop on Cassian, is about to shoot him but stops fractionally when Cassian asks who he is. How can this man not know who Syril Karn is? And that allows Rylanz to shoot him in the head dead!
Still the episode keeps going, the flight from the plaza and the Empire and the K2 droids, as Dreena broadcasts the truth of the slaughter is another excellent sequence. At the end, as Cassian escapes Ghorman, we see two crocodiles crying.
And there’s an episode left to go! How the hell is it supposed to follow all that? By switching to Coruscant and the political fallout from the massacre on Ghorman.
This allows us to see what the Senate has become and the extent of control over it the Empire has, including willing collaborator Senators and extensive covert monitoring. It also blows up long dormant plot bombs, like Mothma telling Luthen she knows he had Tay killed, Luthen doesn’t deny it.
The escape sequence with Cassian again demonstrates the domination of the Empire on the Senate. Although, at the start of it, Cassian is clearly operating Worricker style by walking instead of running.
And then the end on Yavin, with Draven, and Bix and K-2SO. Cassian may be able to let the Empire go, but Bix can’t, so she legs it.
There’s also an intriguing sequence on Yavin earlier with a Force healer, who sees something of Cassian’s nature, or future. That he tends to be in the right place at the right time, which Luthen also tells him on Coruscant.
It all makes for an incredibly accomplished and brilliantly executed set of episodes.
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I blazed through the latest three episodes tonight. It’s still very good and there are a lot of payoffs for stuff that’s been seeded through this season, but at the same time as the timeline gets closer to Rogue One and A New Hope, the capacity to surprise is reduced as everything ultimately has to align with what we already know is the endpoint.
But it’s still very, very good – the Ghorman storyline in particular has been handled very smartly and the inevitably horrible outcome landed just as it should.
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Inevitability is the keyword here, we can see with the strength of hindsight how these events are going to end. We know the Ghormans are doomed, but how they die is as important as that they die. We know that Cassian and Mon Mothma are “safe”, at least for the duration of the show, but there’s still power in Mon’s speech to the Senate, partially because it’s been a long time coming, partially because we can see how it’s assisted by the malicious compliance of the senate techs, and partially because of Mon’s journey to this point in the show. We can worry about Luthen, Wilmon, Kleya and Vel.
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The other thing that I hope they maintain for the last three episodes is they kill characters off, but know it’s unwise to kill off everyone as the audience gets wise to that. So far, for me, it’s done the deaths it has in smart ways. There’s no playing with the audience to deliver a gotcha moment.
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Yeah, for me it’s not so much about who lives and dies but more the general direction of where it’s all going. The show has been quite unpredictable and inventive so far, but it naturally becomes a little easier to anticipate its moves as we get closer to the start of Rogue One.
Ghorman is a great example of an aspect where there has been lots of tension and drama because none of those aspects are known.
And even for those plot points where we do know the overarching shape of how things have to go, seeing why it happens and how it happens is still interesting. Mothra’s exile and escape at the end of the latest episode is a good example.
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One little detail I loved in Mon Mothma’s escape is that they mention the mole on Bail Organa’s security team is “one of Jung’s agents”. Lonnie, Luthen’s man on the inside at the ISB’s surname is Jung. It’s in the credits in every one of his appearances, but I don’t recall if it’s ever said out loud in the show.
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The other thing that I hope they maintain for the last three episodes is they kill characters off, but know it’s unwise to kill off everyone as the audience gets wise to that. So far, for me, it’s done the deaths it has in smart ways. There’s no playing with the audience to deliver a gotcha moment.
I felt like Luthen was for the chopping block during the second arc with how erratically he was behaving, like Mon was going to have him taken out for similar reasons to Tay Kolma. But that seems to have passed. Similarly I thought Bix’s drug usage was foreshadowing her death. But at this point I hope Bix just goes off and does Rebel stuff and makes it out the other side.
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I also liked that it’s steered clear of forced cameos or connections to other parts of the saga. The droid stuff at the end of this latest batch of episodes is probably as close as it’s come so far, but even then it feels pretty much justified.
The few characters who do show up are ones who would logically be involved, like Bail Organa (Jimmy Smits lost weight, he looks good on it), and even then it’s not treated as a big reveal or dramatic moment, he’s just there.
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It turns out the whole thing about Mon Mothma being brought to Yavin on another ship escorted by Gold Squadron is a reference to Rebels, whoch had already portrayed elements of her escaping Coruscant and making a speech about the Ghorman massacre. But it still felt organic, it didn’t need to have a cameo from the live-action incarnations of the Rebels cast or anything.
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It turns out the whole thing about Mon Mothma being brought to Yavin on another ship escorted by Gold Squadron is a reference to Rebels, whoch had already portrayed elements of her escaping Coruscant and making a speech about the Ghorman massacre. But it still felt organic, it didn’t need to have a cameo from the live-action incarnations of the Rebels cast or anything.
Yeah, I haven’t watched the cartoons but I read something saying that those lines help reconcile how the speech was shown in Rebels with what we see in Andor.
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It turns out the whole thing about Mon Mothma being brought to Yavin on another ship escorted by Gold Squadron is a reference to Rebels, whoch had already portrayed elements of her escaping Coruscant and making a speech about the Ghorman massacre. But it still felt organic, it didn’t need to have a cameo from the live-action incarnations of the Rebels cast or anything.
Yeah, I haven’t watched the cartoons but I read something saying that those lines help reconcile how the speech was shown in Rebels with what we see in Andor.
However, Star Wars fans may note that this speech diverges somewhat from the canon that was established in the animated series Rebels. In season 3 episode “Secret Cargo,” Mon makes a speech broadcast across the galaxy from within a ship as she is transported to Yavin by Gold Squadron.
Andor creator Tony Gilroy explains that he and writer Dan Gilroy felt constrained by having to adhere to the speech she delivers there (and weren’t all that interested in parroting someone else’s writing). “We are hijacking canon,” Tony Gilroy admits. “In canon, she’s rescued by the Gold Squadron and the speech that they gave in the cartoon, which was a canonical show, [is on that ship]. And Danny’s like, ‘Do I have to stick to this f–ing speech?'”
As it turns out, they figured out a way where he didn’t have to, allowing them to eat their rebel cake and have it too. Cassian (Diego Luna) would rescue Mon from the Senate, evading Bail’s corrupted squadron, and he would deliver her to the safe house. But she would remain there, awaiting Luthen’s arranged transport with Gold Squadron, and she would make another speech broadcast to the entire galaxy once safely on her way to Yavin.
“In a really sneaky way, we’re minimizing what they did in Star Wars Rebels, but we’re keeping it consistent,” Gilroy notes. “We’re just saying you don’t really know the whole story of what happened.”
At first, the whole story was told a bit differently. Mon’ speech was fragmented, pieces of it cut between a flurry of action scenes, depicting Bail’s corrupted Gold Squadron, Cassian’s entry to the Senate, and the Empire’s frantic attempts to shut Mon down.
But O’Reilly wanted Mon to get the full meal of a moment here. “Tony came into my trailer, and I said, ‘It’s just extraordinary,'” she recounts. “And he just sat there and went, ‘You want me to write the whole speech, don’t you?’ And I said, ‘Yes, please, please, I would love that. Write the whole speech’.”
“Within a day or two, he came with that whole speech,” she continues. “He gave it to me, the idea being that I would learn it and then they would just do those moments. Then, I went to the director, and the director was like, ‘Yeah, let’s film the whole speech.’ It was such a huge thing to me to give that whole speech. It feels really special.”
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The fix is multiple speeches. Mon did a lot of talking that day.
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I saw this on an Andor fan on Facebook:
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In terms of what could have been, there were plans scrapped in the scripting stage for an episode where Cassian was trapped on a ship being hunted by a KX droid, which he would disable and then reprogram into K2SO, and well into development Cassian was going to bring Mon mothma to Chandrilla where she’d try and bring Perrin and Leida with her, only for Perrin to basically reject her. Cassian would then lead her to the Ghost to be taken to Yavin and the episode would end.
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I saw this on an Andor fan on Facebook:
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realise that Saw Gerrera was a play on Che Guevara.
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Episode 10. Fucking hell.
That is all for now.
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Episode 11: FUCKing hell.
More to come
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Episode 12: Well fuck.
I almost called that ending perfectly
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I thought episode 10 was excellent. It’s the kind of episode that builds on everything that’s come before while also telling a great story in its own right.
While the last two episodes are fine, they don’t feel like the dramatic peak of the series. More like tying everything off and lining it up as it needs to be for Rogue One.
Even given that though, there’s a slight sense of loose ends here. Despite running for 12 episodes, it feels like there wasn’t quite the scope for this second season to explore everything that it could have.
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All right, one last time, though, I am, like almost everyone else it seems, likely plotting a Rogue One re-watch. And that, of course, leads to Star Wars.
This set of episodes are a bit different to their predecessors. Where those formed discrete arcs, these act as both epilogues to Andor, and prologues for Rogue One. It is testimony to the skilled execution of them that they easily cover both roles.
It’s too early for a series review but, one thing is clear to me. In an era of trickery and subverting expectations, Andor didn’t do that. It has its surprises and deaths and twists, but it plays fair in all of it. It’s probably one of its strongest cards.
What really stood out to me in the confrontation between Dedra and Luthen, aside from how much was left unsaid, is Dedra clearly embodying the Vimes Rule of Villainy. Namely, she likes to gloat, and that gives Luthen his one opening.
Getting to see Kleya and Luthen’s origins, plus their early rebellions worked well. The highlight was her infiltrating and exiting a fully locked down hospital to enable him to die. That it was thought by the ISB to be a team of three is fitting testimony to her skills.
That it is Dedra who finds out there are, in the ISB, fates worse than death is wonderfully fitting. In her arrogance Dedra never picked up on Partagaz’s coded warning to her about Krennic. Watching her get done over by him is darkly amusing, especially when combined with the knowledge that Tarkin will do unto Krennic as he did to Dedra.
The extended escape sequence on Coruscant was excellent. Again showing the force of the Empire and their controls over the environment.
On Yavin, it was an interesting move to render Bail as more of an obstacle. The other two Senators seen in Rogue One are present, as is Raddus. Like in the film, the only defining feature of those two is their utter uselessness.
Draven cuts a more interesting figure here. As a general, he’s in the enforcer role, but he also knows his people well. He can’t be seen to agree with either Wilmon or Cassian, but he knows they have a point.
Three brilliant scenes, with great emotional impact, was the toast between Cassian and Vel. And then there’s Partagaz, listening to Nemik’s manifesto, which has gone viral, ahead of his suicide. Finally, in case you thought they had forgot, the story shows where Bix and B2 are.
This has been a spectacular four weeks. Now to get the UHD disc set that should follow, unless someone’s being very unwise.
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Dedra’s fate was far more brutal than expected.
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There’s a shot early in episode 10 of Luthen staring at his reflection, and so much of these last three episodes are about mirror images, counterparts.
Luthen is his own in many ways: the effette, charming dealer in antiquities is an absolute contrast to his brusque duciplitious nature. But a huge part of what the show does this week is to show Cassian and Dedra as reflections of each other. They’re both smart, motivated, and able to operate on their own initiative. They’re at odds with the broader structures around them and that’s becoming more and more prounounced. Dedra’s independent streak was tolerated or ignored as long as it got results, but her unwillingness to give up on Axis made her too much of a liability. Cassian’s been independent-minded since the beginning, his radicalisation gave him a cause to believe in but left his rebellious streak intact, so as the Rebel Alliance moves from being a loose connection of terrorist cells and independent brigades to being a political entity with a standing army, he doesn’t fit in. The difference is that the Rebels appreciate the utility of a maverick to some degree, while the Empire very much lives by the maxim of the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. Fascism ultimately has no place for the competent, and people who are good at their jobs will always end up being replaced with the mediocre.
Speaking of which, Syril and Dedra are mirror images while ultimately being so much more alike than we ever thought. While Cass and Dedra are mirrored in their circumstances, this pair are mirrors of competency while matching on drive. Both are undone by reaching too far, pushing outside their boundaries until one fuckup too many does them in.
The other reflection that comes to mind immedately is the difference between the raid on Ferrix by the Pre-Mor cops way back in series 1, and the ISB assault team that comes for Kleya here. The ISB troopers are infinitly more professional, there’s no time or space for pithy speeches or the attempts thereof, the sergeant is the one taking charge. Not that it does them any good, but at least a better effort was made.
It’s worth noting as a separate thematic point that the rot is beginning to set in the Rebel Alliance, that will lead the to eventual complacency and destruction of the New Republic. The council is already more interested in parliamentary procedure than acting quickly and decisively. It’s something I’ve lived though in activist circles. There’s value in a structured organisation but it does push out or minimise more radical and self-motivated people. I may have shuddered involuntarily when one of them said “we don’t have a quorum”
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Very cool George Lucas homage:
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Very cool George Lucas homage:
The 1138 reference goes back as far as A New Hope, where there was mention of a Cell Block 1138 on the Death Star.
I love Easter Eggs.
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There’s a shot early in episode 10 of Luthen staring at his reflection, and so much of these last three episodes are about mirror images, counterparts.
Luthen is his own in many ways: the effette, charming dealer in antiquities is an absolute contrast to his brusque duciplitious nature. But a huge part of what the show does this week is to show Cassian and Dedra as reflections of each other. They’re both smart, motivated, and able to operate on their own initiative. They’re at odds with the broader structures around them and that’s becoming more and more prounounced. Dedra’s independent streak was tolerated or ignored as long as it got results, but her unwillingness to give up on Axis made her too much of a liability. Cassian’s been independent-minded since the beginning, his radicalisation gave him a cause to believe in but left his rebellious streak intact, so as the Rebel Alliance moves from being a loose connection of terrorist cells and independent brigades to being a political entity with a standing army, he doesn’t fit in. The difference is that the Rebels appreciate the utility of a maverick to some degree, while the Empire very much lives by the maxim of the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. Fascism ultimately has no place for the competent, and people who are good at their jobs will always end up being replaced with the mediocre.
Speaking of which, Syril and Dedra are mirror images while ultimately being so much more alike than we ever thought. While Cass and Dedra are mirrored in their circumstances, this pair are mirrors of competency while matching on drive. Both are undone by reaching too far, pushing outside their boundaries until one fuckup too many does them in.
The other reflection that comes to mind immedately is the difference between the raid on Ferrix by the Pre-Mor cops way back in series 1, and the ISB assault team that comes for Kleya here. The ISB troopers are infinitly more professional, there’s no time or space for pithy speeches or the attempts thereof, the sergeant is the one taking charge. Not that it does them any good, but at least a better effort was made.
It’s worth noting as a separate thematic point that the rot is beginning to set in the Rebel Alliance, that will lead the to eventual complacency and destruction of the New Republic. The council is already more interested in parliamentary procedure than acting quickly and decisively. It’s something I’ve lived though in activist circles. There’s value in a structured organisation but it does push out or minimise more radical and self-motivated people. I may have shuddered involuntarily when one of them said “we don’t have a quorum”
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I started rewatching Rogue One last night for the first time since finishing Andor. It’s remarkable how well they’ve made it all line up, to the point where the movie now feels like an action-packed series finale for the show.
There are countless little references and asides in the film that end up referring to stuff that we’ve now seen in the show, it’s really quite impressive how they reverse-engineered so much backstory (that I’d forgotten about) into the series.
And having so many returning actors on the series really makes the whole thing feel seamless.
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Andor creator Tony Gilroy and star Elizabeth Dulau unpack epic Kleya backstory episode
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I’m watching Rogue One and the scenes with Saw Guerra take on a whole new complexion when you realize he’s high as fuck from huffing rhydonium.
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Last night, I watched Star Wars: Tales of the Underworld. I went in blind, not knowing anything about the series except that episodes were about 15 minutes long.
The first episode begins with a funeral. I don’t recognize the characters so I figure they’re new. I quickly realize they’re part of Dave Filoni’s extended animation creations. I haven’t watched any of those shows so I then have to wonder if I should have to know more than I do. The second three parter was the origin story of a popular bad guy in the various animated projects. Honestly, both sets of stories were mediocre at best.
This is something I truly appreciated about Andor: it told a different story that tied into the larger mythology but didn’t feel so incestuous. I would love for Disney to bring in different creators to tell different stories with minimal connections to Filoni’s neck of the woods. It’s a huge universe; there are plenty of stories to tell.
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Finally finished Andor, and my God was that satisfying.
Maybe my favourite moment was the conversation between Krennic and Partagaz. They needed so very few lines to show that these two had a long relationship going back, and also to show us how even the people at the very top are terrified of being eaten and shat out by the system. Well, by Palpatine, but this is how authorianism always works, of course.
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Finally finished Andor, and my God was that satisfying.
We finished the final “year” of season 2 last night, and I had the same appreciation for that Krennic/Partagaz conversation. I also appreciate the decision to present this season as a quartet of 3-hour films with a one-year break between arcs, to create a better sense of time passing as the rebellion amps up. As soon as the last episode ended, I immediately wanted to start watching ROGUE ONE, but that will have to wait for this weekend.
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One thing that bugged me was that they went a bit into an incompetent leadership trope towards the end. Luckily, only for a tiny bit of time, because that kind of thing is very annoying.
(More precisely, this would probably fit this trope: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeadInTheSandManagement.)
Oh, and it made me and my kid very happy to get a shot of Mon’s husband being awesome in the ending montage. We were both very annoyed we didn’t get to see him while she was giving her speech.
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