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Hmm, don’t read Twitter?
In other news, John Jackson Miller has a SNW book now out in Feb-Mar 2023, probably be worth a look.
He also has a Picard book out now for Rios that I ought to consider.
Later this year, Una McCormack has a Picard book out that might be good too. Looks to be a Raffi story.
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Hmm, don’t read Twitter?
I was thinking more about the kind of Orion behaviour Tendi doesn’t engage in.
In other news, John Jackson Miller has a SNW book now out in Feb-Mar 2023, probably be worth a look.
He also has a Picard book out now for Rios that I ought to consider.
Later this year, Una McCormack has a Picard book out that might be good too. Looks to be a Raffi story.
I have heard good things about the Rios novel, and Una McCormack is always good.
In other news, a bunch of people have seen screener copies of SNW episode 1, apparently it’s a good ‘un – though the people I’ve heard that from are generally fans of NuTrek so mileage may vary. But the guy who plays Uncle Phil in the Fresh Prince of Bel Air remake is playing Robert April, so the pissbabies are pissing and crying.
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I’ve enjoyed quite a bit of new Trek – the Kelvinverse and s1-2 of Discovery worked well enough for me, the wheels only came off in s3 for me.
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Looks to be a Raffi story.
My kids used to LOVE Raffi:
Wait…what?
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Stumbled on a rather cool bit of news.Mack has a book out on December, In Harm’s Way. It’s a TOS story.What’s significant about it is it sees Kirk and co crossing paths again with Vanguard.The Vanguard series is a fantastic and epic side story. It concluded and got its own spin-off successor, Seekers.The new story is set inbetween one of the books. Quite cool that part of the old litverse continues.
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First episode of SNW is pretty good, very much feels like a modernised TOS.
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It was fine. Felt very much like the pilot for a 90s sci-fi show, only shinier. The presence of a memorable bridge crew already gives it a nod over Discovery, as does sexy time with Spock.
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The first episode of the Pike show was pretty good… there were still some bits of stupid, but very few… although looking at the “coming up” reel, it looks like it’s gonna go to absolute shit like Discovery and Picard… but hey, here’s hoping it doesn’t devolve into another Feelings: The Show (doubt it)… =/
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Did the alien make-up remind anyone else of the vampires from Buffy? Crossover potential…
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Good lord, Pike’s hair. That mane deserves its own spot in the opening credits.
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What do we say about the fans who insist that the Enterprise set be exactly like the one in the 60s original?
Who cares what they think.
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Wait wait wait wait… Hoooooly shiiiiiiit… 2 entire episodes of Star Trek with self contained stories and people not bawling their emotions out every 10 minutes??? 2 entire good episodes???
The fuck is happening? Should I dare hope? lol…
Oh well, it only took them six REALLY shitty seasons of Discovery and Picard to make 2 episodes… good job I guess?
Still, I can’t shake the feeling that it’ll all go tits up, because this nu ST always does, but credit where credit is due, these 2 episodes were legit good. Proof that you don’t need to go stupid with emotions… also proof that you don’t need “forced diversity” crap… oh diversity is also in here, but it just is and it’s good, there’s no need to tell us it’s there and it’s good… huge difference.
Bonus a billion points for not having an insufferable Tilly-like character in this.
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Yeah, I am loathe to jinx it and it has only been two episodes but this show seems primed to succeed where Discovery and Picard failed in terms of quality control.
The hook of having a lead character who knows exactly when and where he will die is also a great premise.
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Hey, and I’m sure there’s gonna be some emotional stuff happening… I mean, that security chick is primed to have an emotional meltdown at some point… but as long as it’s not every other scene like in Discovery where everyone is always crying or saying something really obnoxious and stupid… or whatever dumbfuckery that Picard show was… I’m cool with it. Like I said though, the season preview in the 1st episode left me worried, so I guess I’ll just hope they’ve finally learned something and just bail yet again if they haven’t.
But hot damn, it’s refreshing to see a crew actually act like a professional crew and not a bunch of CW characters who look old but behave like teenagers running around like amateur idiots.
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What do we say about the fans who insist that the Enterprise set be exactly like the one in the 60s original?
We quote Paul Levitz:
Be warned that the phenomenon of “chronicler’s error” lurks in all Legion tales- because technology changes so much in the next thousand years, it’s impossible to neatly fit all the facts together, much less correctly depict all the changing technology (we once believed they used jet packs or flying belts, but in all probability the flight ring was their most important device from close to the team’s inception.
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Fwiw, there was this fan production called Star Trek Continues. The site no longer has the episodes, they might be on YouTube. The sets were EXACTLY like the 60s. Lou Ferrigno was in a ep, as was Takei, and the actor who played Apollo.
Then there were more real good fan productions that pushed the story, but then Paramount cracked down on all of them as copyright infringement.
Now, Paramount is churning out the streaming shows, apparently borrowing from some of the fan productions but I digress…
As for fans… Some don’t realize what was done in the TOS, also the first black woman captain was in the fourth movie (her ship was the first to come across the probe that wanted to contact the whales), and that all that trans and sex change material was done over 25 years ago with Jadzia being the host of the trill.
They just don’t notice those things.
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What an excellent idea!
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I’ve read — and I don’t know if it’s true — that the miniskirt was introduced on Star Trek because Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Rand) requested it.
If you look at the original pilot (with Pike) and the second pilot (with Kirk), female uniforms were just like the male uniforms, with trousers. The first regular episode to be filmed was the Corbomite Maneuver, and was the first to include Grace Lee Whitney as a cast member. That’s when the female uniform changed to miniskirts.
Maybe Whitney was proud of her legs
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Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Rand)
My cousin and I met her once at a convention in Manhattan. She was so nice. She signed her autobiography book that my cousin bought.
I took him on his birthday. It was his first time at a convention. It was a Saturday and the convention concluded on Sunday, and he liked it so much he went again the next day without me. He met and got pictures of the actor and actress who played Tom Paris and Belanna Torres. For him, it was like Disneyland with all the cosplay, the conversations about the shows, meeting cast members. etc. One of his most memorable birthday presents he got.
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I love Nimoy and got used to Quinto, but this one playing Spock is also very good. He isn’t as tall as the other two, but he fills out in his body more than them.
This is a great chance to see the Enterprise under Pike. I know it is Capt. Kirk’s brother and James as a character is slated to come next season. The security one with the British accent (and the Gorn trauma) is supposed to be related to Khan somehow. The helmslady Ortegas is Ok, she has this (how can I say) non feminine haircut and is her own character. All of them including Chapel , we will have to see the whole season, but this is better than the others. A nice cast so far. Great set and special effects.
Now I am compelled to catch the episodes of Discovery which have Pike and No. 1 (2nd season) and the one where some of the crew ended up in the 32nd century.
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I hate that her name is OrtegaS… it should be just Ortega, I’ve never heard that surname with an S at the end, it’s sooo distracting every time.
Also, no, don’t watch Discovery.
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I’ve read — and I don’t know if it’s true — that the miniskirt was introduced on Star Trek because Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Rand) requested it.
If you look at the original pilot (with Pike) and the second pilot (with Kirk), female uniforms were just like the male uniforms, with trousers. The first regular episode to be filmed was the Corbomite Maneuver, and was the first to include Grace Lee Whitney as a cast member. That’s when the female uniform changed to miniskirts.
Maybe Whitney was proud of her legs
This is a half truth, Nichelle Nichols and Grace Lee Whitney had no problem showing off their legs and enjoyed the attention, but the removal of trousers as part of the female cast costumes was a directive from NBC which came down during the filming of the fist block of 6 episodes.
Now I am compelled to catch the episodes of Discovery which have Pike and No. 1 (2nd season) and the one where some of the crew ended up in the 32nd century.
It’s well worth watching and most of series 2 is self-contained so you won’t be too lost if you don’t watch series 1. But you should watch series 1 because it’s also very good.
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Thanks @lorcan I will add it to my already long list of must see streaming. 😂
I got this from Wiki regarding the actress Jess Bush who plays Nurse Chapel:
Co-showrunner Henry Alonso Myers felt the character’s portrayal in The Original Series came from a “very different conception of women and of marriage and what people would do in their jobs” that present-day audiences would not expect, and sought to tell new stories with a character inspired by Bush’s strengths.
Well, if telling new stories (and giving a more modern take on the original concept from the 60s) is what they want to do, then have at it.
I like Ethan Peck more and more as Spock. T’pring had a great line in the first episode.
This Uhura will get better and I had mixed feelings about singing musical notes to resolve the plot, but then there are two Star Trek novels that also did that.
As for the fans insisting that the show needs to look like the original sets back in the 60s leave them be… I already have.
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I had mixed feelings about singing musical notes to resolve the plot, but then there are two Star Trek novels that also did that.
I was the same, but it’s very Star Trek so I got over it
Really enjoying the show so far.
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I get the feeling that if the show gets more of a following, they just might develop “something” where Pike escapes his “destiny” leaving the show more open ended and not so much of a prequel.
It’s about 7 years from SNW series 1 to Pike’s accident, so I doubt they’ll change that. The bigger problem is that Kirk is in command of the Enterprise for a couple of years by that point, so that’s the more pressing deadline. Even so, they should be able to have the show run for 5 or 6 series, assuming they want to adhere to 1 in-universe year per series.
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Hot damn… 3 for 3… I’m impressed.
Though I gotta say, the haircut gal sticks out like a sore thumb in this show… her mannerisms are waaaaaaaaay too modern day that she’s kinda not in the same show as everyone else… blondie nurse is about as far as I can take it, tbh… so I hope they’ll write her more like the rest of the group and less like a modern day sassy chick.
But other than that, another very solid self-contained and overemotion-free episode… did someone replace Kurtzman with a replicant or something?
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I am enjoying the hell out of this show.
10 episodes? Excuse me?
Sorry, you’ll be doing a minimum of 16 episodes per season starting in season two, and we expect this show to go 7 seasons.I like every member of the crew and look forward to learning more.
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Same here… It’s like modern day TOS episodes.
I’ve never seen any ST tv shows before Discovery, so I can’t make those comparisons… I do have a rather good idea of what people say OG ST is all about, and yes it seems to fit into that mould a lot more than the other shows… but besides that, this show is actually well produced (all of them are to be fair), well acted but particularly well written… the issues they tackle, they do it in a smart way, well integrated with the plot, and they raise interesting points… unlike those other 2 garbage shows Discovery and Picard where they go at it in the most hamfisted way possible.
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That was some movie level Trek excitement! Really enjoyed it yet again and have nothing but good things to say about this show.
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Yeah that would have been a great movie. Love a bit of cat-and-mouse battling in Star Trek.
Could have done without those sudden close ups of the stitching, though!
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As much as I’m enjoying SNW I have a weird fear: The show is hewing so close to older Trek that it might lead to executives passing a decree that all the shows ongoing should do the same, mixed in with a modern Star Wars-level of empty pandery fanservice. And that’s gonna lead to the same problems we had in the 90s and 2000s of Trek becoming too formulaic and stale. Sure TNG and DS9 were great, but Voyager and Enterprise did largely the same thing and were shiiiiiiiiit. I’d far prefer weird experiments that fail than eighteen minor variations on a theme with a CGI recreation of a dead or old actor along for the ride.
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So the fourth episode was really good. This is the fastest a Trek show has ever found its feet.
Please don’t fuck it up.
Oh, I finished Piccard season 2.
Wow. To go from dull and boring to shitting the bed that much in the last episode was impressive. Pity the android space squid didn’t make a reappearance
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As much as I’m enjoying SNW I have a weird fear: The show is hewing so close to older Trek that it might lead to executives passing a decree that all the shows ongoing should do the same, mixed in with a modern Star Wars-level of empty pandery fanservice. And that’s gonna lead to the same problems we had in the 90s and 2000s of Trek becoming too formulaic and stale. Sure TNG and DS9 were great, but Voyager and Enterprise did largely the same thing and were shiiiiiiiiit. I’d far prefer weird experiments that fail than eighteen minor variations on a theme with a CGI recreation of a dead or old actor along for the ride.
Doesn’t seem to be the case so far. SNW does have the TOS nostalgia thing going for it, while Picard has the ’90s nostalgia writ large. But then they’ve got Discovery doing its own thing, for better or worse. They’ve got animated shows for the kids and for the grown-ups. Then there’s Section 31, which one would imagine is not going to be dwelling on the past a whole lot. Anything else being added to the slate probably depends on one of the existing shows being wrapped up first and maintaining the balance between things rooted in the past and things set in the Discovery era.
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Some “Hunt for Red October”
Or, you know, Balance of Terror
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The (Daredevil) engineer is Enar and not Andorian. His attitude so far, I don’t know … yet.
He’s an Aenar, they’re an Andorian subspecies introduced in Enterprise
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Aenar
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New Trek TV is a weird thing. Some bits work well then go off the rails, while others were already way off them and in a perpetual slow motion crash. Yet, even with all that, I continue to find the books far superior and fun.
TV appears to do strange things to writers. How else to explain the difference between Beyer’s Voyager books and her Picard work? I can’t match the two up.
Which is a long route to….
Star Trek: Discovery: Wonderlands
I shouldn’t have wanted to buy this. The book should be a disaster. It’s a Michael story and did she become a mess in series three, never seeing a spotlight she couldn’t hog. With all that in play how in earth does this book manage to not only work but succeed?
Two words: Una McCormack. Much as she did for the Picard series by expanding its backstory, so too here. We get a look at how the Federation unravelled, of the impact of the Temporal Wars, of the Burn being a catalyst and final breaking point but far from the first.
McCormack walks a careful line between showing the flaws of the Federation as it became and the value of its ideals. The one does not render the other worthless.
It is the characters that make this all work – Burnham and Book, with Grudge, is the main relationship axis but other characters also get added in or expanded on. It becomes a very effective and focused ensemble piece.
A good, fun read.
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I like the women characters although I see an overlap in some of them.
Uhura isn’t quite like she is in TOS, but here she is just starting out and getting a feel for Starfleet. She has yet to be the character we all know.
Soongh’s point about the Gorn was spot on. It showed a little of how naive the Federation is in thinking that everyone they meet in space is negotiable and can be reasoned with to eventually become a friend and join the Fed. That reminded me of when Q snapped the ship way out there to meet the Borg for the first time.
Now, I wish that JJ Abrams did his reboot in this way. We would have had Star Trek like this all this time and wouldn’t have needed Strange New Worlds. But what can you do?
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I am loving SNW. I like the old school feel of the show. One of my favorite characters is the new Chapel. I loved her part in episode 5. I like that they have made her a “player” just out for a good time. Her “escape” by sitting down with Spock was great and helped advance the plot.
I never had time for the original. She was ultimate nepotism. I don’t know if there is a different word for getting your girlfriend a job so if I used the wrong word, im sorry. Is anyone here an old school Trekkie? I was reading Twitter when I saw a tweet from a Trekkie complaining that Dr. Roger Korby was not mentioned in the current episode. WTF? He was on one episode! Where is Shatner screaming Get a Life!
Lorcan mentioned a worry that TV Execs might ruin future Trek projects because SNW is running so close to TOS. I don’t think they are. Uhura is quieter, Chapel is more promiscuous, and Spock has had more sex in 5 eps than he had in 2 years on TOS. Pon Farr anyone?
Meanwhile I am liking pretty much everyone on the show. I even like “Where fun goes to die”
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I liked it that Uhura had that very brief scene on the negotiation table.
In “Amok Time”, it was Uhura who asked Spock who T’pring was.
So Uhura never met T’pring in any of the SNW episodes to preserve her surprise in “Amok Time”Finally…without interruption.
Surprise there was no appearance of the engineer.
Side note:Is the ship dependent on dilithium crystals?
That was a great episode of everyone taking a nice break.
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Lorcan mentioned a worry that TV Execs might ruin future Trek projects because SNW is running so close to TOS. I don’t think they are. Uhura is quieter, Chapel is more promiscuous, and Spock has had more sex in 5 eps than he had in 2 years on TOS. Pon Farr anyone?
My worry is more the hewing closer and closer to established parts of the setting for comfort rather than doing new things with them. Like I’m loving SNW, especially the radical idea of giving Nurse Chapel a personality. It’s more that I’m concerned that they’ll Mandalorian it up and begin to just do rote references and that sort of self-conscious HEY LOOK IT’S A THING YOU RECOGNISE FROM THE SPACE MOVIES lingering camera shot…
Like imagine if Picard’s replacement is like a prequel show on the Stargazer with new actors playing young Picard, Jack and Beverley Crusher? And it was more slavishly like TOS/TNG than SNW is?
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I don’t mind them continuing to utilise the characters that people actually care about, so long as the quality of the end product holds up. If they did that Stargazer show and it was SNW quality then I’m all for it. If it was Picard quality then kill it, kill it with fire.
Enjoyed the languid pace of this week’s episode after the frantic prior week. They didn’t even get to the body swap part until about 23 minutes in but it was so enjoyable spending some relatively quiet time with the characters that I didn’t mind the pacing.
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Episode 4 was outstanding… a great TV episode overall.
Episode 5 showed a bit more of the “stupid” we can see in the other nuTrek shows, but never to the degree it is in those… it still was a very well written episode, despite it somewhow feeling very “filler” in a procedural show.
I’m guessing this show is 10 episodes, sooo half way there and it’s all good so far… here’s hoping they don’t drop the ball.
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Wow. I heard that Jess Bush who plays Chapel was on the show “Australia’s Next Top Model”, but this backstory of the actor playing the (Daredevil) engineer is amazing. I wish him well so much.
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Episode 5 showed a bit more of the “stupid” we can see in the other nuTrek shows, but never to the degree it is in those… it still was a very well written episode, despite it somewhow feeling very “filler” in a procedural show.
I see this “complaint” and I sort of understand it. But what is “filler”?
I have to say that you need an episode (or a comic issue) where the characters take a break after a serious story. It also gives the audience/reader a chance to unwind a little, before the next big story comes. It goes along the lines of a “comic relief” scene in a story that gets more serious as it goes along.
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Couple of Qs:
How many eps is SNW s1?
Is Paramount+ likely to do what Disney+ did with Mando and still trickle the eps out for UK viewing?
10 episodes, no word on what the episode releases will be like when Paramount+ launches over here
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Couple of Qs:
How many eps is SNW s1?
Is Paramount+ likely to do what Disney+ did with Mando and still trickle the eps out for UK viewing?
10 episodes, no word on what the episode releases will be like when Paramount+ launches over here
Three episodes on the 22nd, one a week after.
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Thanks, that supplies what I need to nab the free trial, blitz the lot and terminate.
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I’ve never seen any ST tv shows before Discovery, so I can’t make those comparisons… I do have a rather good idea of what people say OG ST is all about, and yes it seems to fit into that mould a lot more than the other shows… but besides that, this show is actually well produced (all of them are to be fair), well acted but particularly well written… the issues they tackle, they do it in a smart way, well integrated with the plot, and they raise interesting points… unlike those other 2 garbage shows Discovery and Picard where they go at it in the most hamfisted way possible.
I read this at first and then I wondered: Since you’ve never seen TOS, what are you basing your criticisms on? Then you explained more. I take it you also got the reason why episode 5 was a “take a big break” episode.
Now for this week:
They have a big budget with high production.
All this adventure on the planet. Some romance… modern day TOS.
Pike’s hair – there will be meme’s out there. It’s not exactly like old Morrissey but…
La’an’s being so tough on Uhura, but in the end lets cadet Uhura take all the credit for her findings that break everything open.
Nice that the game breaking discovery isn’t always by Spock. As for that pithy English accent…The “villain” at first and the fighters turn out to be in the right all along.
The @$$hole doctor/caretaker of the “golden child” turns out to have gone about things the wrong way at first, but once you get to know him…
It is always a highly advanced civilization (with hologram tech on everyone’s hands) with all this science and tech achievement that have a dirty little secret. Like the prosperity of a civilization always comes at the expense of…
For having all that tech etc. and the presumed objectivity needed to be so advanced, the civilization still holds onto some archaic ways of doing things. Reminded me of “Black Panther” in that sense.
With all this plot armor… You just can’t put one over on the crew.
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I was a bit disappointed when I saw who was the female guest star. She played Cassandra on the Librarians with No.1 playing Eve on the Librarians. but there was no reunion to be had because their screen time together was minimal. The story itself was weak. Hopefully Dr’s daughter’s improvement will provide a silver lining for this episode. I get that every ep can’t be a success but I think Johnny Bravo Pike should have spent less time thinking with his small head because the ending was a bit obvious. I guess I liked that Cranky, Mean Dr turned out to be the one on the light side and the pretty, cheerful woman turned out to be the dark side.
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Johnny Bravo Pike! Ha! My first thought when I saw him this ep as well.
Yeah, it was the weakest episode so far, but it wasn’t bad, and I’ve dogdamned absolutely loved every ep before it and consider myself spoiled.
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This week was basically The Ones Who Beam Up From Omelos. And it wasn’t bad, but it definitely was the least-strongest story so far. Some great character work as always though it’s really nice to just spend time with the crew.
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There is a parallel to a 1973 short story by Ursula K Leguin:
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I just watched ep 7 and it might have been the best one yet. Since this is not a spoiler thread I will not provide details but I loved the character building of my favorite SNW people and the additional lore introduced into SNW.
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Gotta love how Spock keeps the existence of his relatives on a strict need to know basis.
Shrek the Pirate Chef was so goofy he really undercut the tension that the rest of the episode had built so well.
Captain Angel was great fun. Looking forward to her inevitable return.
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Ortegas always has these quip and witty one liners.
In TOS it was Sulu as helmsman and some Chekov
(not to forget Uhura was at the helm in Balance of Terror)
and now in this series it is Ortegas.
She will eventually get a spotlight episode. At least I hope so.Loved seeing Spock dodge that laser shot.
A little “Die Hard” in the episode.A sad story to tug at the heart and I loved how Captain Angel she got so sassy once she revealed her true self
I get it that some characters in a large cast have to be “sidelined” to give more airtime for others
but where was the engineer all this time? It is the 3rd straight episode.Not a bad idea to “redeem” some bad Star Trek material. Is V’ger next? 🤣
Stonn is in the background… good to know.
That kiss…. but Chapel should be meeting a Dr. Korby soon if we follow TOS.
As for future episodes: Angel returning would be nice. but TNG had Q and
TOS had Kirk and the ship encounter some energy God-like being several times.
I wonder if this series will have an episode like that.Angel can come back like Seska came back on Voyager to annoy the crew every now and then.
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Captain Angel’s pronouns are they/them according to the episode, even though Jessie James Kietel’s are she/her
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Very much enjoyed this episode. Captain Angel is a good character addition and look forward to more appearances.
Also enjoying what they’re doing with Spock, and very cool he now has a Moriarty.
This show has really jived with me and set itself up to be good for a long time!
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Thanks for the heads up about the pronouns @lorcan_nagle
I would add those who say “F it” just don’t want to recognize and be accommodating for others. That is either out of ignorance, laziness, unwillingness, hatred or all of the above.
Trans people have a complicated history with tv/ film — but at a time when trans women are constantly vilified, mocked & legislated against IRL, I take pride in flipping the script. Cis actors get to play every shade of good & evil — let us do the same! 😈🏳️⚧️☠️🏴☠️ #StrangeNewWorlds pic.twitter.com/UUbAlP37zT
— Jesse James Keitel 🏳️⚧️ (@JesseJKeitel) June 17, 2022
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FWIW… There are TOO MANY production set design pictures on Twitter and other sites.
(That ship is so clean. Where are the ship janitors? 😂)
Google them yourself. No way am I going to post them all. 🤣
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Yeah, another enjoyable episode. Basically a holodeck story minus the holodeck.
Top quality corset action going on too. Ahem.
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Denny Russell
I Googled the name and got a Dennis Russell Morris and all these books
on physics, Clifford algebra, and some Quantum Mechanics.
Is that him?
It’s the SF writer in the 1950s who Sisko had visions of in Deep Space 9
(and now I realise my post had a typo, it should say Benny Russell)
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Saw this on Facebook:
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Nice bit of Alien-inspired, wall-punching action this week. The shift in tone from the prior week’s light-heartedness – and the fact that they pulled off both so well – speaks volumes about the quality of the show.
If there’s one weak point it is the Uhura scenes. We already know what career path she takes and any conflict over that decision is under-developed, so it all falls flat.
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This show!! We knew there was going to be GrimDark but the switch from the opening scenes to what happened was amazing. They pull off another season of this and it’s going to be up there with TNG
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They must stop with this “Pike’s hair” stuff. Imho.
I hate to see those two go.
So, the newly promoted personnel ….Some “Aliens”, some “Predator”, and I really wish everyone would stop going on and on comparing it with
TOS “Arena”. They are just expanding on the Gorn like they are expanding on and giving more dimension to
Pike, M’Baga, Number 1, T’Pring, Uhura, etc. There some material in the pilot and TOS that they can expand on and
give more of a backstory.Funny: Every situation has its severe limitations ie. unchartered areas, can’t transport, can’t relay a message for help, etc.
Is Uhura doubting her place on Starfleet supposed to be like a student doubting their place at Oxford or Harvard?And:
Also… A few YouTube videos and podcasts have people thinking that they are way too clever for their own good by ripping into episodes. Their ripping into the episodes are really telling on themselves that they are nitpicking, over-analyzing, being very anal…
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That is the problem with prequels:
I can understand not having Uhura in a scene with T’Pring so as not to contradict Uhura asking Spock who she is in “Amok Time”
but now, there is all this “stuff” about what the Gorn look like and their portrayal vs. the “Arena” episode.
The writers are just taking what they can from the pilot and TOS to give more dimension and a backstory to.
Unfortunately, they have to put up with the “fans” and some of their silly “nitpicks” which aren’t exactly flagrant contradictions.
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Episode 9 was indeed dark but one positive did come out of it redshirts are not death sentences. blueshirts die too
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Episode 9 was indeed dark but one positive did come out of it redshirts are not death sentences. blueshirts die too
There was one casualty of each shirt colour!
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