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I still like the idea of Prodigy more than the execution but I’ve enjoyed it overall and I really liked the big things they did for the finale. I’ll be back for series 2. Very funny that the concept of spanning disks seems to have been lost in the Post-Atomic Horror, though.
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I did have a chuckle at that. 🤣
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So… I got into DISCO S2 to see Pike and Spock and that lead me to (now) the beginning of S4.
Interesting cast, the usual blend of multi cultures, LGBTQ+, comic relief aliens, quirky geniuses in
engineering.I see why the ship was ushered into the future, as the ship and crew would have messed up the TOS
canon. No mention of Discovery at all ever after.I like it that it put a black woman at the forefront, but she is like a super hero, as some of the episodes
had her like “Aliens”, “Die Hard”… could do no wrong, all her split second last minute decisions save all the
situations. There is this term of a woman character like that called “Mary Sue” and she is that.DISCO is OK to binge in a slow time as a filler while you are waiting for the streaming shows you really want to watch.
but why is the resolution to some plots is to talk to a child, sing a song, humanist philosophy speeches, etc?(For the record: The first black woman captain we saw was in the opening scene of Star Trek 4, the first ship that came
about that cigar probe.)ADD: Some bits were borrowed from Star Wars, like the epic space battles. Another is this notion that every dive bar
on the edges of a solar system is where you find out so much, and make contacts like Luke and Kenobi in the Cantina.
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I like it that it put a black woman at the forefront, but she is like a super hero, as some of the episodes
had her like “Aliens”, “Die Hard”… could do no wrong, all her split second last minute decisions save all the
situations. There is this term of a woman character like that called “Mary Sue” and she is that.That was one of the main criticisms in the thread for the show back when I was watching it. My main thing was though, that they were addicted to producing big emotional moments that were in no way earned by the story, and they constantly had the characters crying, too. I was shouting at the TV whenever that happened, which was basically at least once every episode.
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Today is the 30th anniversary of the best Star Trek, Deep Space 9
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https://www.avclub.com/star-trek-picard-team-why-show-ending-with-season-3-1849966879
“Stewart told reporters during the TCA panel that he’d potentially continue Picard only if the show could maintain the same quality.”
Come on now, Patrick.
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Top 5 Star Trek series:
1. The original series
2. The Orville
3. Galaxy Quest
4. TNG season 3 onwards
5. Enterprise
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I know someone who’s seen episodes 1-4 and loved them, and they were quite critical of series 1 and 2 so hopefully it bodes well.
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Also, for the UK, Picard S3 will be Amazon Prime, not P+. Might be the same for some other countries too.
Unexpected, must be a contract thing. Does encourage me to finish s2.
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Does encourage me to finish s2.
This is not a good thing.
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It can’t be worse than Season “fuck off Picard” 1.
Hey, it was “the sheer fucking hubris” and “shut the fuck up”, not “fuck off”
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In all honesty, Picard series 2 isn’t worse or better than series 1, it’s just that the bad parts are similar yet different. Pacing is still a mess but this time the show seems to work on a principle that one or two plot points have to happen in a given episode, and any characters not involved in that are going to be cooling their heels. There’s a lot of well-executed moments in there, some fantastic performances, and… some frustrating bits to boot.
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Being more serious, I lost interest in S2 and fully expected S3 to be on P+. That gave me no reason to return.
Now the picture is different, S2 might work better as a quick hit.
Back to playing around and you just know the new model of the Enterprise will be FU.
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Picard series 3 gets a good review from the AV Club:
https://www.avclub.com/star-trek-picard-season-3-tv-review-paramount-plus-1850095207
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Well, finished Picard S2.
Bit of a slog, with an interesting ending that’ll see Starfleet HQ going “fucking Picard”.
For some of what they wanted to cover though, their ambitions far exceeded their reach. If you’re going to do a story with Picard addressing the trauma from his mother’s suicide then the writing has to be excellent and it wasn’t.
If anything the start / end eps feel different to the connecting middle ones. Does making Q nastier give the story anything? Not really.
I’ll give S3 a look as I’ll be able to access it but can it turn it around? I really don’t know. I’ve enjoyed a couple of Picard books more than the core series.
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Season 5 of Discovery confirmed to be its last season, will premiere in 2024
https://intl.startrek.com/news/to-our-dearest-disco-family
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Guessing Michelle Yeoh’s price tag for a Section 31 show just shot way up.
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Guessing Michelle Yeoh’s price tag for a Section 31 show just shot way up.
That assumes she will have time on her schedule for it.
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If the Section 31 show happens to… disappear, that would be perfect.
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Akiva Goldsman gave a talk this week and he said that there’s going to be an announcement soon about when SNW series 2 is going to air, and apparently they’re already filming series 3.
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Coming in 2023, here's your first look at premiere dates and renewals for #StarTrek #StrangeNewWorlds, #StarTrekLowerDecks, and #StarTrekProdigy! pic.twitter.com/tWF93xuTFb
— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) March 28, 2023
Here we go
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Well, there was this:
(I’m kinda let down Noel Wells didn’t paint herself green)
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https://ew.com/tv/jack-quaid-bromance-ethan-peck-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-crossover/
“[Boimler] holds such a special place in my heart. He’s one of my favorite characters I’ve ever played, but to be able to fully inhabit him, put on the uniform, make my hair purple, all that stuff, that was such a good time,” the actor says.The uniform, however, was sweatier than expected.“I figured it would be sweaty ’cause I tend to sweat a lot, but my God, that thing is not breathable,” Quaid admits. “It looked really good, but there were those first few fittings where I had the purple hair, I had the uniform on, it just blew my mind. The coolest part was I was able to study the show and look at how the artist animated Boimler and how he moved, and I was able to put a little bit of that in there.”3 users thanked author for this post.
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Star Trek: #StarfleetAcademy is coming to @ParamountPlus! From executive producers @Alex_Kurtzman and @NogaLandau, the series will follow the adventures of a new class of Starfleet cadets as they come of age in one of the most legendary places in the galaxy. #StarTrek pic.twitter.com/Jay5o8DYJR
— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) March 30, 2023
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“Now shut up about a Starfleet Academy show”
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I can’t believe that after decades of different projects there will finally be a SFA show.
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“For the first time in over a century, our campus will be re-opened”
It sound like it may be set in the Discovery future timeline.
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Tawny Newsome is one of the writers on the new show.
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Tawny Newsome
Are you sure that’s a real person, not a Bond girl?
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Tawny Newsome
Are you sure that’s a real person, not a Bond girl?
There’s literally a photograph of her on this page!
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There’s literally a photograph of her on this page!
The one with the purple hair, yeah?
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Potentially a fun thing. But I’m sure it’s going to suck as much as all the other current Trek shows.
Fucking Kurtzmann.
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"I’m beyond thrilled to return to my Star Trek family."
Academy Award winner Michelle Yeoh will star in #StarTrekSection31, a special movie event coming to @ParamountPlus! pic.twitter.com/QHKYim06PC— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) April 18, 2023
To Kurtzman:
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Also:
‘Galaxy Quest’ TV Series in the Works at Paramount+
Paramount+ is teaming with its studio counterpart, Paramount Television Studios, for a live-action adaptation of the 1999 cult favorite sci-fi spoof. Sources say the project is in the early development stages and a search is under way for a writer to pair with Mark Johnson, the Breaking Bad alum who exec produced the film and is returning for the scripted update. Johnson and his Gran Via Productions banner are the only execs currently attached to the project.
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They need to fill that show to the gills with Trek alumni
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I quite like the sound of the summary, but sceptical if the execution.
What they ought to do is get Donnie Yen to guest star, have him take none of Georgiou’s crap, cue proper sword duel.
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And in some other trek news, IDW releases details about its upcoming crossover between the Star Trek & Defiant titles, Day of Blood:
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Greetings from such great heights 🖖 #StarTrek #StrangeNewWorlds Season 2 premieres June 15 on @ParamountPlus! pic.twitter.com/V1WdJfSWEL
— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) April 19, 2023
https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-2-teaser
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Started watching Lower Decks. It’s a lot of fun.
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Started watching Lower Decks. It’s a lot of fun.
It’s the best modern Trek show.
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I may be biased considering he is also Hughie from the Boys but Boimler is one of my favorite new starfleet officers
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I cannot wait for him and Mariner to show up in SNW
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It’s the best modern Trek show.
I’d definitely agree with that, but after all I don’t like any of the other current Trek shows.
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Some of you might find this interesting:
On a side note:I’ve read some of the valid complaints over the years by Jolene Blalock on her character, namely that the character was becoming less Vulcan and wearing more tank tops for no apparent reason.
True she was cast to be that show’s 7 of 9, but Blalock had her points…
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Some of you might find this interesting:
On a side note:I’ve read some of the valid complaints over the years by Jolene Blalock on her character, namely that the character was becoming less Vulcan and wearing more tank tops for no apparent reason.
True she was cast to be that show’s 7 of 9, but Blalock had her points…
Sorry, but the series really wasn’t very good.
It’s biggest mistake was that it was a prequel series. In every sense, it was a step backwards. While Voyager had its problems, it did build and move forward from TNG and DS9. ENT reversed course. And as much as I love Scott Bakula, he really was miscast as Archer. He never felt like a “maverick”.
It was the first Star Trek series I never finished watching.
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It’s biggest mistake was that it was a prequel series. In every sense, it was a step backwards. While Voyager had its problems, it did build and move forward from TNG and DS9. ENT reversed course. And as much as I love Scott Bakula, he really was miscast as Archer. He never felt like a “maverick”.
I think you absolutely could have done a prequel, especially with Enterprise’s stated goal of showing a more dangerous, lawless frontier. It’s just Berman and Braga were not the people to write that show, the same way they weren’t the right people to write Voyager as both shows essentially became TNG but without the magic. I do agree 100% that Bakula was miscast as Archer. He could have been a great Starship captain, but not Archer as written
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I agree with Todd that doing a prequel wasn’t a good idea. And it’s a shame they’ve been doing nothing but prequels or nostalgia shows these days*. This isn’t about the future anymore, it’s all become just reveling in the past of what we used to imagine as the future.
(*except for Lower Decks, which is the only current Trek show worth watching)
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I think you absolutely could have done a prequel, especially with Enterprise’s stated goal of showing a more dangerous, lawless frontier.
Kind of sounds like Voyager, a bit? ;)
They could have done that in the 24th century by sending a ship to the fartherest regions of the Federation. This is where the Fed’s influence isn’t as strong because the areas are either being settled, or new worlds are being integrated and that’s not always a smooth process. The Federation is having to deal with governments, organizations, and rogue elements like pirates that are trying to exploit the various situations. This starship is the lone sheriff trying to bring order and stability to the area.
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Kind of sounds like Voyager, a bit? ;)
Well yeah, and that failed for a lot of the same reasons. They set up reasons for the ship and crew to not be like the Enterprise and then smoothed them all out – Divided between Starfleet and Maquis? Hardly ever comes up after the first few episodes. Resource shortages? Ignored in favour of an endless supply of shuttles and torpedoes and everything else they need. Just about every time they come up against a major thread, the reset button gets pressed.
Similarly Enterprise worked around or ignored all the things that would have made it unique. They don’t have phasers or shields, but they have phase pistols and polarised hull plating that works identically in practise. When I read the phrase “temporal cold war” in the leaked script for Broken Bow, I knew it was going to be more of the same.
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Mariner and Boimler hiding out in the background
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Seeing some of the casts picketing:
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The people writing current Star Trek should have their pay cut
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Can’t wait until ChatGPT takes over from those Discovery writers, that’s for sure.
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I really hope you two are joking, because if you’re not it’s a seriously fucking shitty attitude towards working people even if you don’t like their work.
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Amen to that. It is a lot more than just the Star Trek shows.
Jeri Ryan is outspoken on this:
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I hope those are stand ins because Boimler does not look like Jack Quaid.
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I really hope you two are joking, because if you’re not it’s a seriously fucking shitty attitude towards working people even if you don’t like their work.
That sounds like a line from one of their scripts
So you’re literally taking the position that workers don’t deserve a living wage unless you personally approve of their work?
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Having a laugh has no place in Star Trek.
If you were crying, on the other hand, you’d fit right in on Discovery.
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I really hope you two are joking, because if you’re not it’s a seriously fucking shitty attitude towards working people even if you don’t like their work.
That sounds like a line from one of their scripts
So you’re literally taking the position that workers don’t deserve a living wage unless you personally approve of their work?
No Lorcan, I’m literally having a laugh
Try being funny and not cruel next time.
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Personally, I was indeed joking. See, the joke was to use the real danger of AI replacing TV writers to absurdly over-emphasise my dislike of Discovery’s writing. I don’t actually want anybody to lose their jobs (though I certainly would like the authors involved to work for projects that I’m not interested in in the first place).
HAPPY NOW, LORCAN??? HAPPY NOW???
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Personally, I was indeed joking. See, the joke was to use the real danger of AI replacing TV writers to absurdly over-emphasise my dislike of Discovery’s writing. I don’t actually want anybody to lose their jobs (though I certainly would like the authors involved to work for projects that I’m not interested in in the first place).
HAPPY NOW, LORCAN??? HAPPY NOW???
That doesn’t seem like a good joke to me.
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Eh. Everybody is a critic. Look, this is obviously a sensitiv topic for you, I’m just going to shut up now
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New worlds. New adventures. New faces. #StarTrek #StrangeNewWorlds Season 2 premieres June 15 on @ParamountPlus! pic.twitter.com/q5u73MHDGt
— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) May 24, 2023
LOWER DECKS! LOWER DECKS! :p
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I really hope you two are joking, because if you’re not it’s a seriously fucking shitty attitude towards working people even if you don’t like their work.
That sounds like a line from one of their scripts
So you’re literally taking the position that workers don’t deserve a living wage unless you personally approve of their work?
No Lorcan, I’m literally having a laugh
Try being funny and not cruel next time.
So you’re literally taking the position that jokes don’t deserve to be told unless you personally find them funny?
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I really hope you two are joking, because if you’re not it’s a seriously fucking shitty attitude towards working people even if you don’t like their work.
That sounds like a line from one of their scripts
So you’re literally taking the position that workers don’t deserve a living wage unless you personally approve of their work?
No Lorcan, I’m literally having a laugh
Try being funny and not cruel next time.
So you’re literally taking the position that jokes don’t deserve to be told unless you personally find them funny?
So you’re bringing back up an argument that’s faded away just to start shit?
Sorry, I didn’t pay much attention to the posting date on that.
Just for clarity, would my post have been ok if the argument hadn’t faded away?
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