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[DavidM]

BBC Radio 6, 19:00 tonight (Friday 4th):

The legendary comic book writer shares two hours of his favourite music and chats to producer and writer Richard Norris about the important part it’s played in his life and work.

Expect tracks from Captain Beefheart, Joni Mitchell, X-Ray Spex, The Residents, Patti Smith and Sleaford Mods. Plus some of the music he’s made himself over the years.

See if you can guess who it is before you click the link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008yp0

Then Sunday at 13:00, is this one easier to guess?

The author of **** amongst much else, picks some of the music that’s shaped him. With tracks from Bowie, Dusty Springfield and Tori Amos.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00093q6

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Yeah, sorry I wasn’t clear. I just meant that Magic Order was initially lined up behind Jupiter’s but then fell back with delays too. I think American Jesus is definitely further along than that at this point, given that Magic Order has effectively gone back to square one.

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garjones wrote:

It also has a placeholder page on Netflix (which Jupiter’s Legacy also has but The Magic Order doesn’t yet).

Maybe it does and we just can’t perceive it. Ooooooo.

garjones wrote:

As well as shy to announce release dates Netflix are also pretty guilty of taking their time. We’ve mentioned before 2 year gaps between seasons of stuff like the OA or Lost in Space and they’ve also signed a few people on exclusive deals with not really a sniff of when anything will come out.

Whereas on other projects, they move astonishingly quickly, funnily enough. The difference probably being whether it’s expensive high-profile stuff or something they’ll greenlight and push through on a whim (like UnOrthodox).

Christian wrote:

Whereas on other projects, they move astonishingly quickly, funnily enough.

True enough while some have taken ages others are pretty prompt.

I wonder if it’s partly the Image comics type syndrome. Everyone who works for Netflix seems full of praise about the creative freedom they give but they may also mean not coming down hard on deadlines etc. People working at their own pace would explain why some develop much faster than others.

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Wasn’t there a “Magic Order” show on Netflix recently?

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Yup. ‘s not connected. I suppose if they ever do make Millar’s Magic Order, it’ll have to be called something different.

(And then Millar will rename the comics series, because he tends to do that and streamline his franchises.)

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Todd

Who needs integrity when you have cash, right?

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Todd

I don’t know how much impact the other Magic Order had, if you Google the name only stories about Millar/Coipiel’s version appear.

It was only called “The Order”. The magic was implied.

Ah yes… that’s true… still, I thought it was a bit crass to undercut another show that was in production like that… but yeah, I believe it was totally ignored and then got cancelled, so no biggie.

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8295472/

It was more like The Magicians than Magic Order comic. College kids performing magic. the kicker was there was an order of Werewolves who killed students that were using magic improperly.

Yeah whatever it was I agree with Jon that it doesn’t matter as even us nerds can barely remember it. Did anyone here watch it?

[Rocket]

yes, and I liked it. I liked Magicians too and thought they were very similar. It did not hurt that the cast was very photogenic(except for Matt Frewer, that is).

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Rocket wrote:

It did not hurt that the cast was very photogenic(except for Matt Frewer, that is).

Max Headroom wants a word with you…

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Todd

Dave wrote:

I think Magic Order was the next most developed MW project at Netflix and there were those recent reports that it was being retooled entirely, so who knows when that one is coming. That’s the one that I always thought was best suited to a TV series.

The Magic Order was cancelled:

‘The Magic Order’ Not Moving Forward; Netflix Series Was Based On Mark Millar Comic

They say they might try it again some day, but it’s very vague and unlikely to come up in the next few years.

The only other one in production AFAIK is the anime version of Supercrooks.

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njerry wrote:

Max Headroom wants a word with you…

The 80s called to tell you it’s been over 30 years ago
Frewer is on the left.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8295472/mediaviewer/rm2497536512/?ft0=name&fv0=nm0001242&ft1=image_type&fv1=still_frame fullsizepic.

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I’ve recently started a part time postgraduate degree (I know, I know, way to complicate my life) and today was the first day of my first study week. We got on to the topic of visioning and developing organisational strategies for the future. Completely randomly during this, someone (not me) brings up comics as a good source of inspiration. And, that snowballs into a sidebar conversation about the works of Alan Moore. Not at all what I was expecting to be discussing with my lecturers on my first day.

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Awesome, Vikram! And yes, way to complicate your life indeed, man, hope it all goes well!

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Vikram

Random question… anyone know who the artist is here?

 

I did a reverse image search, didn’t turn up much. I’m guessing early Howard Porter.

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DavidM

Interesting guess. Yes, I can see Porter there.

(I don’t know who it is, by the way.)

DavidM wrote:

(I don’t know who it is, by the way.)

It’s Superman.

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Anonymous wrote:

It’s Superman.

Come on, it’s clearly Clark Kent cosplaying again!

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Todd

My first thought was Porter too, but don’t know for sure.

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Reverse image search has it being used on a lot of Superman merch, from boxer shorts to posters and tin boxes. No refence at all to an issue or panel.

That could mean there’s a chance it isn’t a comics artists at all. DC have tended to use Garcia-Lopez and then Jim Lee for those duties but it’s definitely neither of them.

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garjones wrote:

Reverse image search has it being used on a lot of Superman merch, from boxer shorts to posters and tin boxes. No refence at all to an issue or panel.

And one composite graphic (a crap-hic) from a cbr article from last year. I’ll email whoever wrote that article and see what it turns up.

 

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I’ve tweeted him, let’s see what happens.

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DavidM wrote:

Random question… anyone know who the artist is here?

 

Kinda looks like Claudio Castellini to me… but not a 100% sure…

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Jon wrote:

Kinda looks like Claudio Castellini to me… but not a 100% sure…

Honestly, I’ve never even heard his name before! (Checked his wiki page, and he’s obviously too recent for me to know )

I mean, he’s not exactly new, but he’s definetly not very famous… first time I saw his art was in that old Marvel Vs DC thing back in the 90’s… But again though, not sure if that’s him… it could be, because of the muscle style, but Castellini is REALLY stylised, even more than that, so who knows… I don’t think it’s Porter though.

It could also be an older style Ron Garney, and there’s a dude whose name always escapes me but also has that type of style… if I remember I’ll post it. Edit: I remembered, another Ron, Ron Wagner…

Nice article about Stan Lee. Nothing we don’t already know, but obviously not aimed at us. References a new biography, though, if biographies are your thing.

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/15/who-really-created-the-marvel-universe

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njerry

Grabbed this from reddit, thought it was pretty cool. Anyone else have any similar examples?

On the left: Invincible #15

On the right: Superpatriot: War on Terror #1

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Well…. at least he’s stealing from himself

 

‘s not stealing, it’s a crossover moment. Pretty cool idea, too.

I think there are a lot of example for this kind of thing from the big crossovers? A meeting between two heroes told from different perspectives in their own books? I just have the general impression that there are, I can’t recall any specific ones.

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DavidM

I definitely remember Bendis showing a scene involving Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Matt Murdock from two different perspectives in the pages of Daredevil and Alias back in the day.

Edit: ah, here it is. The top sequence is from Daredevil #36 and shows Black Widow going into Matt’s office, and the bottom is from Alias #15 and shows the conversation that happens outside the office between Jessica and Luke.

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I don’t know if it fits, but there’s a very old example in a Starlin Adam Warlock comic in which Adam travles to the future and kills his future self, then the series goes on… then in another comicbook, Avengers Anual 7 I think which was published a year later, Adam is beaten on the ground, and then he sees the Warlock from the past appear and you see the same scene with different drawings but same dialogue.

These are the only pics I could find.

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Erik Larsen, when he redid Savage Dragon #13 following Image X-Month, incorporated some of his Wildcats #14 pages (and also acknowledged parts of Jim Lee’s SD #13 so as to make sure he wasn’t seen as replacing or hullifying it).

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njerry

I don’t have a copy to hand to check again, but I think the first Spider-Verse event did some stuff like this, as the main story in Amazing ran in and out of Spider-Woman and Spider-Man 2099.

It’s probably not the same thing but I loved the issue of the original Deadpool run where the “Gumped” him and Blind Al into an old issue of Amazing Spider-Man.

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Deniz is a phenomenal writer. I can’t understand why is isn’t regularly working on high-profile projects.

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garjones wrote:

This reminds me of Ennis’s take on Frank Castle and The Punisher. In The Tyger and the Vietnam era stories, he showed that Frank always had that violent and crazy streak in him. The death of his family was the catalyst for him to finally cut loose and give into his mental illness.

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HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

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It is the return of the three x men who got lost in the vault about a year ago. are you happy to see Brett Booth draw the X men?

Anders is either calling attention to the fact that Booth didn’t draw #18 (it was Mahmud Asrar). Or, he’s making a pun over the virus’ artistic skills.

Booth did draw #17 though, and it was pretty special. He’s also drawing X-Men Legends #1 and #2.

 

Vikram wrote:

Anders is either calling attention to the fact that Booth didn’t draw #18 (it was Mahmud Asrar). Or, he’s making a pun over the virus’ artistic skills.

Based on the file name I assumed the latter.

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Vikram wrote:

Anders is either calling attention to the fact that Booth didn’t draw #18 (it was Mahmud Asrar). Or, he’s making a pun over the virus’ artistic skills.

Yes.

Dave wrote:

Based on the file name I assumed the latter.

Correct.

[Rocket]

Vikram wrote:

Booth didn’t draw #18 (it was Mahmud Asrar). Or, he’s making a pun over the virus’ artistic skills.

i havent read Xmen 18 yet so I didnt know. and the gentleman named Corona is currently Booth’s main inker working with him on Bloodshot as well as other Booth books.

I haven’t heard the virus called Corona in months so that did not occur to me.

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This column by Romesh Ranganathan made me laugh in recognition:

My wife rolls her eyes at a grown man reading comics in bed. But I think it’s sexy

I have felt the discomfort slip into conversation. Somebody will see a book in my bag and ask what I am reading, and I explain that it’s set 200 years in the future and follows a number of animal/human hybrids trying to assimilate into society (Elephantmen). Then I watch the person react as though they’ve just discovered I once murdered someone. Similarly, when I discover that someone I’m talking to is also a comic book fan, what follows is excited and hushed conversation, as though we’ve just discovered we’ve both murdered someone.

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Dave wrote:

excited and hushed conversation

thats not me at all.  im all loud voice and expressive gestures. “DUDE, have you read XYXYX? I love it and that time when soandso did wtf, mind blown(with appropriate hand gestures)

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Until relatively recently comics were my secret shame; now, with so many comics-based TV shows and films, and not just of the superhero variety, I’ve become an Oracle of sorts to people who want to know, for example, who the hell Agatha Harkness is, or want confirmation that ROAD TO PERDITION is based on a graphic novel.

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San Diego Comic-Con Goes Virtual For 2021; In-Person November Event In The Works

San Diego Comic-Con, once again, is staying home this year.

Like 2020, the comic book/sci-fi/horror/genre confab will take place virtually — this year from July 23-25. However, if you are itching for some in-person cosplay and comic-friendly festivities, SDCC has decided to plan a three-day in-person convention in San Diego during November.

“We have made the challenging decision to postpone Comic-Con 2021 as an in-person gathering until our 2022 dates, and once again hold this year’s celebration as the free online Comic-Con@Home,” said a message on the official Comic-Con wesbsite. “We will return to the San Diego Convention Center July 20-24, 2022.”

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Randomly, one element I always liked about Marvel comics back in the 70’s and 80’s were the muscle head characters that would show up like Man Mountain Marko, the Rhino, Juggernaut and the Wrecking Crew, who somehow got super-strength and then bone-headedly tried to rob a bank or something. I mean, some of them did grow up in crime or were driven to it by circumstance, but in the Marvel universe considering the number of criminals compared to the vigilantes, superpowers motivated the former more often than the latter.

However, what I think these guys really need is an investor to come along and put together the first all-superpowered sports league for these guys. Heck, they could just make a new pro football league with the number of small time powered street players out there. Speed, durability, healing factors and so on.

All it would take is someone like The Leader or Norman Osborn to realize that if they took all these crooks and put them onto teams to play for crowds, they’d end up with more fans than Spider-Man AND a monopoly on a new billion dollar industry.

Of course, the tag line would be “with great power comes great opportunity.”

Honestly, with all the superhero movies and sports movies out there, I’m surprised someone hasn’t combined the two. Sure, we occasionally get the Hunger Games/Battle Royal concept, but the only superpowered sports comic I can really think of is Super Boxers from the 80’s. And ROBOT JOX is about the closest superpowered sports movie I can think of – though you usually get some tournament style storyline in about every Shonen Anime from Dragonball Z to HunterXHunter to Boruto.

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Todd

Avengers Academy did that for a bit. They had a bunch of young heroes trapped by Arcade on an island for a Battle Royale style death match.

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Anonymous wrote:

However, what I think these guys really need is an investor to come along and put together the first all-superpowered sports league for these guys. Heck, they could just make a new pro football league with the number of small time powered street players out there. Speed, durability, healing factors and so on.

Back in the 1980s, Ben Grimm was part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation (UCWF).

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Rocket

garjones wrote:

Avengers Academy did that for a bit. They had a bunch of young heroes trapped by Arcade on an island for a Battle Royale style death match.

Yeah. That’s generally what I see – a kind of life or death gladiatorial tournament style. Primarily, I think it simply fits with the adventure story style of comics. Back in Marvel’s New Universe, they had a football team that gained superpowers from the White Event, BUT they then went on to have superhero style adventures. It wasn’t a “sports story with superpowers.”

Back in the pulps and early comics, fictional sports stories filled entire magazines. Robert E. Howard wrote a lot of boxing stories which was its own genre even separate from other sports.

We’ve seen superheroes and/or superpowers mixed in with nearly all the other pulp style stories — even romance, but I can’t think of a popular one mixing superpowers with a sports story. There are plenty of athletes that become superheroes, but it would be more like a boxer becomes a costumed vigilante or a superhero gets trapped in some kind of gladiatorial combat or survival tournament. They are still adventure tales rather than really taking on the elements of the sports genre even though just looking at athletics and superheroics, it seems like a natural fit.

Todd wrote:

Back in the 1980s, Ben Grimm was part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation (UCWF).

Yeah, that is something Marvel could really expand on. Get a Vince McMahon style character to turn that into a worldwide smash (literally) phenomenon where what were once two-bit superpowered hoods are now getting endorsement deals and buying mansions by going legit while their former nemeses like Daredevil and Spider-Man are still risking their lives for nothing.

Make it a story about some young Rhino or Wrecking crew type kid whose been in and out of jail most of his young life but then he finds a path to success only he has to face round after round of the actual Rhino, Scorpion, Marko and such to make it. On top of that, thrown in all the drama of crooked gambling fixes and shady exploitative business, some old coach who’s on his last legs and all the other elements that make a sports story work. I’d read it – or watch it.

Honestly, that was one of my guesses when Mark Millar announce RUN a few years ago. That it was essentially a round the world race between super fast racers with various sports style drama mixed in with the spectacle of the race. Like the movie REDLINE with The Flash / Quicksilver style characters.

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Anonymous wrote:

Todd wrote:

Back in the 1980s, Ben Grimm was part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation (UCWF).

Yeah, that is something Marvel could really expand on. Get a Vince McMahon style character to turn that into a worldwide smash (literally) phenomenon where what were once two-bit superpowered hoods are now getting endorsement deals and buying mansions by going legit while their former nemeses like Daredevil and Spider-Man are still risking their lives for nothing.

Make it a story about some young Rhino or Wrecking crew type kid whose been in and out of jail most of his young life but then he finds a path to success only he has to face round after round of the actual Rhino, Scorpion, Marko and such to make it. On top of that, thrown in all the drama of crooked gambling fixes and shady exploitative business, some old coach who’s on his last legs and all the other elements that make a sports story work. I’d read it – or watch it.

Honestly, that was one of my guesses when Mark Millar announce RUN a few years ago. That it was essentially a round the world race between super fast racers with various sports style drama mixed in with the spectacle of the race. Like the movie REDLINE with The Flash / Quicksilver style characters.

OK, you need to open Word and write this down as your own property.

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Anonymous wrote:

Back in the pulps and early comics, fictional sports stories filled entire magazines. Robert E. Howard wrote a lot of boxing stories which was its own genre even separate from other sports.

The UK has a history of sports comics. A football one called Roy of the Rovers ran for decades and was recently revived by Rob Williams – he’s written Suicide Squad and Judge Dredd but is also a former sports journalist. Early 2000ad had Rollerball style sci-fi sports with Harlem Heroes and Mean Arena.

This is a fun one from when I was a kid. The revived Eagle comic ran a football photo strip called Thunderbolt and Smokey where they could actually feature cameos from real players.

 

 

 

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Doesn’t anyone remember Fabian Nicieza’s NFL Superpro from Marvel Comics in the early 1990s?

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[Martin Smith]

Weirdly Niciezia was talking about NFL Superpro on the Hypothetical Island podcast episode this week. He basically disowned it.

EDIT: well he didn’t *disown* it, he said that he didn’t create it. He was given a stack of ideas that had been approved and rejected by both Marvel and the NFL and had to come up with some kind of workable compromise of them all.

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Todd

Martin Smith wrote:

Weirdly Niciezia was talking about NFL Superpro on the Hypothetical Island podcast episode this week. He basically disowned it. EDIT: well he didn’t *disown* it, he said that he didn’t create it. He was given a stack of ideas that had been approved and rejected by both Marvel and the NFL and had to come up with some kind of workable compromise of them all.

It is something that seems to happen a lot. Marvel did a good job with things like Star Wars, Micronauts, Rom and even Godzilla (the Godzilla Marvel run was bizarre, though), but tie ins to sports – which to me seems natural to superheroes – always were gimmicky.

In general, though, I think the interest in sports fiction is on the rise. Certainly see that in the crossover success of sports anime.

Anonymous wrote:

Marvel did a good job with things like Star Wars, Micronauts, Rom and even Godzilla

I have so much love for ROM. Bill Mantlo seemed to revel in creating back-stories for these otherwise uninspiring toy franchises. I really must finish reading Micronauts one of these days…

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Todd

Anonymous wrote:

but tie ins to sports – which to me seems natural to superheroes – always were gimmicky.

I wonder how much was foisted onto writers who don’t have a huge interest in sport, as it seems may have been the case with Nicieza.

Rob Williams is a massive soccer, rugby and NFL fan, I’ve yet to read his new Roy of the Rovers stuff but I suspect it’s pretty good.

Greg Rucka is a big US soccer fan and while he doesn’t really cover the on-field action one of his Stumptown arcs goes into a lot of detail from the perspective of the MLS fans and how they follow the game.

 

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JRCarter wrote:

Like the movie REDLINE with The Flash / Quicksilver style characters.

The Boys Season 1 episode 3 A Train vs Shockwave.

 

Sports Fan Writers- Jason Aaron Alabama Football, Hickman Clemson and EPL (https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/1014250081908940800?s=20), Tom Taylor Liverpool, and Brian Azarello Manchester United. There are probably dozens more

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The BOYS is the closest to mixing that kind of sports celebrity style culture in with superheroes. Especially with the parallel of Compound V being more like steroids in sports than it was in the comics.

I do wonder if straight sports comics would have as strong a market in the US today, too.

JRCarter wrote:

OK, you need to open Word and write this down as your own property.

I’m thinking about it. Seems like as soon as I have an idea like this though, something comes out that is pretty much the same thing a year later.

njerry wrote:

Fabian Nicieza’

Martin Smith wrote:

Niciezia

Nicieza’s been doing a fair few podcast appearances, in part to promote his upcoming novel. He’s someone who’s lambasted and mocked by the Cartoonist Kayfabe guys (“Kayfabian Nicieza” along with “Scott Jobdell”) and while there’s no denying Fabian and Scott were very lucky to inherit the X-Books during the post-Image period, they did still put in a fair bit of work developing characters in ways that would never have happened with, say, Liefeld still “writing”.

Nicieza dished a bit of dirt in the Cerebro podcast about Cable’s origins and characters being taken in new directions by non-originating writers. He came across well and quite thoughtful really, if a bit self-retconny by suggesting that he’s always included “diverse” characters if only because it’s a shortcut to characterisation – different genders and sexualities and ethnicities gives reason for conflict, bonding, differences and discussions between characters.

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Anonymous wrote:

I’m thinking about it. Seems like as soon as I have an idea like this though, something comes out that is pretty much the same thing a year later.

I’m sure the germans have a word for that =P

Jon wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m thinking about it. Seems like as soon as I have an idea like this though, something comes out that is pretty much the same thing a year later.

I’m sure the germans have a word for that =P

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Andrew wrote:

He’s someone who’s lambasted and mocked by the Cartoonist Kayfabe guys (“Kayfabian Nicieza” along with “Scott Jobdell”)

Well that sounds mature and well-reasoned. I mean, I don’t care what people say about Scott Lobdell – he’s a dick – but Nicieza has done a lot of solid work over the years: New Warriors, Thunderbolts, Cable/Deadpool. And anyone writing X-Men both after Claremont and in the editorial-interference heavy 90s was going to have a hard time of it.

Listening to him on Hypothetical Island, he really seems to have internalised a lot of that kind of criticism. He talked about his novel and he said he was amazed that editorial people were saying they “loved it” as he’s used to getting much more tepid reactions to his work.

Martin Smith wrote:

Well that sounds mature and well-reasoned. I mean, I don’t care what people say about Scott Lobdell – he’s a dick – but Nicieza has done a lot of solid work over the years:

Oh, I think they both had their moments on the X-books (that was my era, the Lobdell Romita-through-Madureira period), and while there were obviously bad decisions made there was no doubt a lot of editorial interference (including hard re-writes). Don’t let that put you off the Kayfabe channel; it’s more Ed Piskor than Jim Rugg dishing out the disses, and with them (Ed and Jim) being more from the indie/creator-owned scene they don’t have as much love for what they call “jobbers”, particularly on the writer side of things. They’ve been putting out videos daily for months now, and 90% of them have appealed to me – not usually too long (<30 mins), flicking through a comic issue, a short run, a trade, or an artists’ edition. I’m just about to watch the latest vid, a flick through of Larry Stroman’s X-Factor debut (he’s one of my fave artists).

Andrew wrote:

it’s more Ed Piskor than Jim Rugg dishing out the disses, and with them (Ed and Jim) being more from the indie/creator-owned scene they don’t have as much love for what they call “jobbers”, particularly on the writer side of things.

Oh, it’s Ed Piskor’s channel. Well that explains it. I find him to be something of colossal arse, so I think I’ll give it a miss.

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Martin Smith wrote:

something of colossal arse

Oh, he’s a character, and while I enjoyed X-Men Grand Design (bought digitally, on sale), I’m not necessarily fussed about the rest of his work (though the Red Room art looks really good, massive growth/improvement).

He cops criticism from some other indie creators for “making comics out of Wikipedia articles”, and kind of being obsessed with success ($$$), but I like his energy in the channel (single, non-drinker, drawing-obsessed) and the contrast to Jim who gives off dad vibes. And looking down the list of vids, although I’d love to see more Wizard coverage, they’ve flicked through the Savage Dragon mini, the Kirby FF #1 (followed by the Heroes Reborn version), Kirby’s 2001, the big three #1s from 90s Marvel (Spidey, X-Force, X-Men), Mingola’s Wolverine GN, BWS’ Weapon X, Alan Moore’s 1963 and Miracleman, Batman Year One, along with more obscure indie stuff like Ed the Happy Clown, Robert Crumb’s early work, Black Hole, and Pussey.

There’s also some long interviews with Chris Claremont (he just talks, Jim and Ed don’t even get to ask questions), Dave Gibbons, Pat Mills, Todd McFarlane, Erik Larsen, Rob Liefeld, and Jim Valentino among others.

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It is funny, the Claremont one is more a monologue than an interview. That guy can talk.

You can contrast him with Brian Azzarello who has done a couple of Word Balloon interviews and he’s really hard work, seemingly not wanting to be there, giving one word answers and it’s actually uncomfortable to listen to.

I like their videos myself, I find Piskor is generally a lot more enthusiastic than negative about stuff.

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garjones wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

but tie ins to sports – which to me seems natural to superheroes – always were gimmicky.

I wonder how much was foisted onto writers who don’t have a huge interest in sport, as it seems may have been the case with Nicieza.

Rob Williams is a massive soccer, rugby and NFL fan, I’ve yet to read his new Roy of the Rovers stuff but I suspect it’s pretty good.

Greg Rucka is a big US soccer fan and while he doesn’t really cover the on-field action one of his Stumptown arcs goes into a lot of detail from the perspective of the MLS fans and how they follow the game.

 

I’ve got the first few books (and novels) of the Roy of the Rovers relaunch.</p>
i read Roy growing up, as many of us did and I couldn’t resist between that and the pull of Williams and Wilsher.

As you would expect from Williams, It’s really good. Ive been putting them by for my kids as well as it’s very kid friendly, but written in a way that adults will enjoy it as well.

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Kevin Maguire is having fun with his art on some app apparently made for photographs of real people, and the results are great. This one is my favourite:

pic.twitter.com/qVt3x17ZdZ

— Kevin Maguire (@maguirekevin) March 11, 2021

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Martin Smith

I heard a 2000ad Thrillcast with Rob a couple of years ago and before taking up comics he worked for a few sports magazines, in one he got sent to the US and interviewed NFL players after games. So a bit more exotic than just writing up lower league football results for the local paper.

He’s fun for me on Twitter because he’s from Swansea, a few miles down the road from where I grew up, loves sport and comics so he cuts across lots of different conversations and people I follow.

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Chris-S

Just finished reading this. It’s by John Morrow, publisher of the Kirby Collector, who was called as an expert witness in the 2009 Kirby family vs. Marvel copyright case.

The book is also presented like a court case between Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, with quotes by each, taken from everything from radio and newspaper interviews to responses from the comics letter columns, all given their chronological context. It paints an exhaustive picture of the dispute between the two men that only seemed to get more and more bitter as time went on.

As with Ditko, there wasn’t a single defining thing that ended their collaboration, but more like a thousand small betrayals.

It made me sad, not just for Kirby, who was never given the compensation he deserved (the 2009 case was finally settled by Disney, who’d just bought Marvel and obviously wanted to make sure they actually owned the characters they were paying $4 billion for) but also for some of the great stories we might have gotten if things had been different between Lee and Kirby.

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Andrew, DavidM, Dave

garjones wrote:

You can contrast him with Brian Azzarello

I’ve met Brian in person a couple of times and even texted with him. He is still terse and quiet but he will talk about non-American football with you.

I saw some of Kevin’s tweets using that app. The song Guy sings is so creepy not surprised it is your favorite, Anders. There is one with Tessa Thompson from Avengers Endgame, Power Girl,  and you definitely need to check out the one with Superman.

Today is Al Jaffee’s 100th birthday.

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MAD was pretty formative for me as a kid – the first time I went to a comic shop, an imported MAD issue (Beverly Hillbillies 90210) was one of 5 items I bought with the little money I had saved.

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Todd

Another random idea I wonder if anyone has actually done anything with. In Harry Potter, there are all these schools for Wizards and Witches and such, but there is also at least one or possibly more prisons for magical criminals, right? Certainly, there are magical crimes and we see a lot of that in the Fantastic Beasts movies with a whole criminal underworld.

So, my question is where do the magical children of the criminals go to school? Do they learn it on the streets? Or – the best idea, maybe – is there a Juvenile Hall type of institution for magical delinquent minors?

And wouldn’t we all want to see a story about that place and the students/inmates it holds?

Anonymous wrote:

Another random idea I wonder if anyone has actually done anything with. In Harry Potter, there are all these schools for Wizards and Witches and such, but there is also at least one or possibly more prisons for magical criminals, right? Certainly, there are magical crimes and we see a lot of that in the Fantastic Beasts movies with a whole criminal underworld.

So, my question is where do the magical children of the criminals go to school? Do they learn it on the streets? Or – the best idea, maybe – is there a Juvenile Hall type of institution for magical delinquent minors?

And wouldn’t we all want to see a story about that place and the students/inmates it holds?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Rowling has answered this question somewhere, but also I have no doubt that the answer is just as dodgy as when she revealed that wizards used to shit wherever and magic it away before they put plumbing into Hogwarts.

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Anonymous wrote:

So, my question is where do the magical children of the criminals go to school?

Why wouldn’t they just go to school with everyone else?

It’s not like we have separate schools for children of criminals in the real world.

 

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lorcan_nagle

Dave wrote:

It’s not like we have separate schools for children of criminals in the real world.

Sure you do.

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Dave wrote:

It’s not like we have separate schools for children of criminals in the real world.

It depends. I think there are three interesting considerations.

First, where would magical criminals go to learn how to commit magical crimes? If you’re a member of a family of underworld figures, you don’t really learn that stuff in Hogwarts so they must pick it up afterwards on the street, probably OR these families have their own unofficial institutions.

Second, and most interesting, is that we do have schools for delinquents – the “military schools” parents would threaten to send their kids to in American sit-coms all the time.

Third, we have the Juvenile Detention and Rehabilitation Institutions where the government sends minors who commit actual crimes (like in the movie HOLES). These are a combination of jails and schools and I think that would be the interesting one to see in a world of magic where a regular school like Hogwarts puts its students in mortal danger on pretty much a daily basis.

That’s all all stuff that relates to criminal children though, not children of criminals.

As for where they learn to commit magical crimes – again, as in real life, there isn’t a school teaching them this stuff. The whole system is broken. And parts of Potter do touch on that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Dave wrote:

It’s not like we have separate schools for children of criminals in the real world.

Sure you do.

We call it “Eton”.

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Ben, Vikram

DavidM wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Dave wrote:

It’s not like we have separate schools for children of criminals in the real world.

Sure you do.

We call it “Eton”.

Sorry Anders, I didn’t see that your comment was a link that already made the joke I was making

 

 

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Christian

Dave wrote:

As for where they learn to commit magical crimes – again, as in real life, there isn’t a school teaching them this stuff.

There kinda is. It’s more like an apprenticeship system for crimes where criminals take on protégés for “on the job” training. Again, that could be a very interesting take on the “Sorcerer’s Apprentice” trope.

Has the funding model for Hogwarts ever been explained? The real-world English boarding schools that Rowling based it on were all fee paying. You only went if your parents were relatively wealthy.

But if that’s how Hogwarts works, there’s no way the Weasleys would be able to send four kids there. They’re basically the magic world’s equivalent of working class. One of their kids may possibly have got in on a scholarship (but not Ron, obviously).

So it’s presumably entirely government funded and all witches and wizards are guaranteed a place by law?

Taxes on working witches and wizards must be pretty steep to offer free boarding school education to everyone.

 

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Ben, Vikram

DavidM wrote:

Sorry Anders, I didn’t see that your comment was a link that already made the joke I was making

I think it’s funny we both thought to make the same joke.

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DavidM

DavidM wrote:

Has the funding model for Hogwarts ever been explained? The real-world English boarding schools that Rowling based it on were all fee paying. You only went if your parents were relatively wealthy.

But if that’s how Hogwarts works, there’s no way the Weasleys would be able to send four kids there. They’re basically the magic world’s equivalent of working class. One of their kids may possibly have got in on a scholarship (but not Ron, obviously).

So it’s presumably entirely government funded and all witches and wizards are guaranteed a place by law?

Taxes on working witches and wizards must be pretty steep to offer free boarding school education to everyone.

 

Well, the Ministry of Magic appoints a new headmaster (Dolores Umbridge) when the sanity/allegiance/competence of Dumbledore is questioned, which I guess is a clear indication that the school is run by the wizarding worlds (english/british) government.

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DavidM

DavidM wrote:

Has the funding model for Hogwarts ever been explained?

The US public school system is obviously different from that of the UK, but here there are specialized schools for students who are gifted with certain talents. NYC alone has 9 such schools, including the LaGuardia School of Music & Art & Performing Arts (for which students must audition or submit a portfolio), the Brooklyn Latin School, the High School of American Studies, and a bunch of others related to Science, Mathematics, Engineering and Technology (for which you must take a test). If you are accepted to these schools your education is free. I imagine in Harry Potter’s world if you are proficient in magic you are accepted to Hogwarts the same way.

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DavidM

There was actually a whole backstory about exactly how taxation works in the world of Harry Potter and how concerns around the wizarding economy actually underpin all the conflict in the series. But it was so good that she decided to sell those ideas to George Lucas in 1997 instead.

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Looking forward to getting out of lockdown guys?

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Chris-S wrote:

lockdown

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