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Time for a new politics thread. Guessing it’ll be fairly quiet given the calm and measured state of world politics today.

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  • #39011

    You would think a nation filled with freedom-loving gun-nuts would’ve shot him by now.

    Sadly those people seem largely appeased by just saying freedom a lot while promising to caress the 2nd Amendment at least once a day.

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  • #39018

    You. Fucking. Morons.

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  • #39019

    Oh dear, they never learn do they?

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  • #39027

    Oh dear, they never learn do they?

    It’s like watching a comedy skit where one person is putting their fists up for a fight and insisting on Queensbury Rules, while their opponent is repeatedly throwing sand in their face, kicking them in the crotch, pulling weapons. and running them over with a car.

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  • #39033

    their opponent is repeatedly throwing sand in their face, kicking them in the crotch, pulling weapons. and running them over with a car.

    Replace “sand” with “tear gas”, and that’s how peaceful BLM protesters have been treated.

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  • #39034

    their opponent is repeatedly throwing sand in their face, kicking them in the crotch, pulling weapons. and running them over with a car.

    Replace “sand” with “tear gas”, and that’s how peaceful BLM protesters have been treated.

    Well yeah, the protesters are taking a principled stand so they need to be shot at, run over, tear gassed, harassed and maligned in the press.  Can’t have people exercising their right to free speech in an inconvenient way.

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  • #39063

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9?r=US&IR=T

    Fuck everything and everyone.

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  • #39065

    Now the governor of Florida is trying to pass some flimsy law defending those who run over protesters in their vehicle. It is supposedly to be under some “threat” and the driver has to “escape”. I kid you not.

    This is what happens when “people” didn’t vote against him in 2016 because of being so fickle and wishy washy about Hilary and sitting out the midterms. NOW “people” cry out for justice. To still have “undecided” and “swing” states… How many voted for him in ’16? I still have to say as I posted before… people are not too bright.

  • #39069

    Comic Spoilers) "IMPROPER USE OF INVERTED COMMAS, HOOVER!" I want to see  this on the show so bad - Imgur

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  • #39077

    Need I say more?

  • #39118

    Oh dear, they never learn do they?

    It’s like watching a comedy skit where one person is putting their fists up for a fight and insisting on Queensbury Rules, while their opponent is repeatedly throwing sand in their face, kicking them in the crotch, pulling weapons. and running them over with a car.

    How the Democrats can still be so naïve is beyond me. Especially in this situation. If the GOP had decency then the country wouldn’t be in such dire straights. Trump wouldn’t be president and McConnell and his cohorts never would have pulled his Supreme Court gambit in 2016. They aren’t interested in decency, they’re interested in winning at all costs. And apparently the Dems will never learn that.

  • #39130

    Oh dear, they never learn do they?

    It’s like watching a comedy skit where one person is putting their fists up for a fight and insisting on Queensbury Rules, while their opponent is repeatedly throwing sand in their face, kicking them in the crotch, pulling weapons. and running them over with a car.

    How the Democrats can still be so naïve is beyond me. Especially in this situation. If the GOP had decency then the country wouldn’t be in such dire straights. Trump wouldn’t be president and McConnell and his cohorts never would have pulled his Supreme Court gambit in 2016. They aren’t interested in decency, they’re interested in winning at all costs. And apparently the Dems will never learn that.

    Really, it’s because the Democrats’ interests aren’t ours.  They’re taking money from most of the same donors as the Republicans, and so long as the interests of capital are not damaged, they don’t really give a shit what happens to the rest of us.

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  • #39135

    Trump Preached White Supremacy in Minnesota, America Barely Noticed

    And yet there are still people who will argue that he’s not racist.

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  • #39136

    You would think a nation filled with freedom-loving gun-nuts would’ve shot him by now.

    Wrong colour.

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  • #39138

    Someone shot Kennedy?

     

    Granted, he wasn’t orange.

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  • #39139

    Someone shot Kennedy?

     

    Granted, he wasn’t orange.

    He was a Catholic, they didn’t count as white back then.

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  • #39159

    Duels 2020 style:

    Democrat turns up with a musket, Republican turns up with a tank.

    “The rules don’t say anything about it so stop whining.”

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  • #39172

    The voters had their chance and now that the GOP has the Presidency, the Senate, and now SC appointments in their favor, they start whining.

  • #39295

    Interesting, Channel 4 News are very credible and renowned for investigative work in recent years.

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  • #39298

    More details here:

    https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

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  • #39304

    Looking the the details shown so far I think maybe for the next month and a half ‘Black Lives Matter’ should be temporarily replaced with ‘Black Votes Matter’.

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  • #39317

    Interesting, Channel 4 News are very credible and renowned for investigative work in recent years.

    No idea if this is honesty or sarcasm.

     

    Not sure it can be (those) two things.

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  • #39333

    No idea if this is honesty or sarcasm.

    It’s fully sincere. Channel 4’s news and documentary output has been really good for a few years now.

    The British government won’t send ministers on there any more as they get challenged too much by the interviewers.

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  • #39334

    The British government won’t send ministers on there any more as they get challenged too much by the interviewers.

    This simultaneously contradicts and confirms what Gar said:

     

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  • #39341

    That’s from last year. Or March this year. It’s all so long ago now. What even is time now?

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  • #39349

    That’s from last year. Or March this year. It’s all so long ago now. What even is time now?

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    28 and a half o’clock?

    I’ve forgotten how to tell time.

  • #39353

    Yeah that video has seemingly gone viral on Twitter today but it is from December 2019.

  • #39398

    All day I told myself I wasn’t gonna watch the debate, but I only lasted about 20 minutes before I looked up a livestream. Man, what an absolute shitshow. Trump ranting like a madman while Biden mostly came off as feeble, needing Wallace to stick up for him instead of projecting confidence from the podium. America has been a nonstop embarrassment since 2016. I feel like I’m living in a failed state.

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  • #39399

    And when asked to condemn white supremacist militias, Trump merely told them to stand by. We live in hell.

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  • #39401

    I thought Biden started off fine, but about 1/3 of the way through you could tell he was tired of trying to deal with Trump railing like a crazy person and just kind of gave up. Future debates should be done on Zoom and the candidates should be muted while the other speaks. Otherwise just cancel the rest, because tonight was an embarrassment.

    And yes, Trump’s refusal to condemn white supremacists again and to not commit to accepting the election results were the things that stood out from the overwhelming noise.

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  • #39402

    I feel like I’m living in a failed state.

    In all seriousness, the US currently meets a lot of the criteria for a failed state.

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  • #39403

    I’ve seen several clips, which was enough for me. Basically unless they mute the mics for the two minute answer they may as well not bother.

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  • #39406

    It’s a weakness of the one-on-one debate format in general, if either of the speakers wants to wreck it then they can, just by speaking over the other. We had the same last year in the UK with Johnson. It ends up being a load of empty noise that’s off-putting as a viewer whatever your political affiliation.

    As much as the larger debates with several speakers (as we sometimes have in the UK, with 7 parties represented) can end up a bit piecemeal, I do think that they naturally minimise the interruption element – because if you’re up against one other person you can spin constant interruptions as being assertive and strong, but if you’re the only person in a group of seven who’s shouting and interrupting then you look more like an asshole.

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  • #39408

    Meanwhile the UK government successfully continues in its desire to take up piracy and deem all binding rules and agreement it signed up to merely guidelines.

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  • #39413

     

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    To be fair, I think most people would rather watch the Star Wars Holiday Special than a presidential debate.

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  • #39431

    I want to see how Harris does against Pence.

  • #39434

    The Dems really gave it to Trump and the GOP when they say “This is despicable/disgraceful/disgusting/hypocritical!”

  • #39436

    I want to see how Harris does against Pence.

    Pence will first require permission from “Mother”.  Yes, seriously, that’s how fucked up it all is.

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  • #39438

    I want to see how Harris does against Pence.

    Pence will first require permission from “Mother”.  Yes, seriously, that’s how fucked up it all is.

    No, he’ll have his wife standing next to him.

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  • #39456

    To my earlier post:

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  • #39479

    I feel like I’m living in a failed state.

    In all seriousness, the US currently meets a lot of the criteria for a failed state.

    “There comes a time when a house has been so damaged by termites, that you must not only kill the termites, but demolish the house, and build again.”
    – Hippocrates Noah, 2372 (“Our Man Bashir”)

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  • #39543

    SNP MP Margaret Ferrier took train after positive Covid test 

    Yeah, you can’t do that.

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  • #39551

    Annnnd the EU is now suing the UK over their breach of the Withdrawal Agreement

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  • #39560

    The whole thing is clearly a massive bluff on the part of the UK government anyway, but I’m glad the EU aren’t pissing about.

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  • #39564

    I wish I could be certain it was merely an arrogant bluff by Johnson and company.

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  • #39585

    I see the Trumps have tested positive for COVID. No jokes here, but it’s another interesting development going into the election.

  • #39586

    It was bound to happen, the fucking oaf. I hope that at the very least he suffers one or two of Covid’s harsher symptoms.

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  • #39587

    I see that some people are already going into full conspiracy-theory mode, saying it’s not true and it’s all distraction tactics.

    (I mean, people have been trained to mistrust every word he says, but still.)

    Meanwhile others are speculating about Pelosi needing to step in if both Trump and Pence end up incapacitated.

    The election can’t come soon enough.

  • #39588

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  • #39591

    Fighting the urge to say what I really wanna say.

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  • #39594

    SNP MP Margaret Ferrier took train after positive Covid test 

    Yeah, you can’t do that.

    Everyone is talking about her taking the train. But she also went into Westminster, and as far I can see they haven’t closed the building and made all staff quarantine for two weeks. Honestly, it’s no wonder track & trace isn’t working when they can’t even apply it to people when we know from national TV who was also there :unsure:

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  • #39602

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hearing Trump tested positive brought a much needed smile to my face.

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  • #39604

    SNP MP Margaret Ferrier took train after positive Covid test 

    Yeah, you can’t do that.

    Everyone is talking about her taking the train. But she also went into Westminster, and as far I can see they haven’t closed the building and made all staff quarantine for two weeks. Honestly, it’s no wonder track & trace isn’t working when they can’t even apply it to people when we know from national TV who was also there :unsure:

    The speaker has addressed this, on Weds afternoon, within 20 mins of finding out the MP was infected they had preventative measures underway.

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  • #39606

    Hearing Trump tested positive brought a much needed smile to my face.

    Quite. I don’t know why anyone feels the need to be polite about this. Trump has caused, and will continue to cause, untold misery for thousands of people, not just in America, but around the world, for years to come. So fuck that guy. The only reason I wouldn’t want him to die from this, is because I’d rather he went to jail for his many crimes and died there instead.

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  • #39607

    The only reason I wouldn’t want him to die from this, is because I’d rather he went to jail for his many crimes and died there instead.

    Oh, most definitely. I want that fucker to die in prison. It’s also why I never wanted him to be assassinated: I do not want him to become a martyr.

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  • #39608

    SNP MP Margaret Ferrier took train after positive Covid test 

    Yeah, you can’t do that.

    Everyone is talking about her taking the train. But she also went into Westminster, and as far I can see they haven’t closed the building and made all staff quarantine for two weeks. Honestly, it’s no wonder track & trace isn’t working when they can’t even apply it to people when we know from national TV who was also there :unsure:

    The speaker has addressed this, on Weds afternoon, within 20 mins of finding out the MP was infected they had preventative measures underway.

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 2 months ago by Ben.

    Also, they already practice distancing measures within Westminster (as you can see from watching any of the House of Commons procedures) – 14-day quarantine measures are typically for people who have been in closer contact.

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  • #39611

    A fellow MP defended her saying it was mainly because she’s ‘hard of thinking’.

    This is a bit of a thing long commented on by political pundits. While the leadership is usually very impressive when the SNP suddenly ballooned from around 6 MPs to suddenly 50+ a lot of the individual candidates brought in were rather sketchy.

  • #39613

    It’s a weird situation after the precedent to not step down has been set by Cummings – it’s not like Johnson can come out hard against her because everyone will turn around and mention Barnard Castle.

  • #39614

    Oh, and I’ll save you all the trouble.

    Johnson can come out hard

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  • #39621

    Hearing Trump tested positive brought a much needed smile to my face.

    Quite. I don’t know why anyone feels the need to be polite about this. Trump has caused, and will continue to cause, untold misery for thousands of people, not just in America, but around the world, for years to come. So fuck that guy. The only reason I wouldn’t want him to die from this, is because I’d rather he went to jail for his many crimes and died there instead.

    I think on a basic human decency level, some people will stop short of wanting to wish illness or death on anybody, no matter how awful a person they are.

    Yes, Trump may not have that degree of decency himself, but it doesn’t mean everyone has to sink to his level.

    (Although online I know there’s a definite tendency to go straight for the hyperbolic reaction.)

    Like you say, far better to let him be punished through legal means for all the shit he’s done.

  • #39624

    I don’t want Trump to die in office due to the political and social ramifications but when he does die, I will be very, very happy. He is a parasite and blight on humanity.

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  • #39626

    I won’t say I’ll be happy, but I certainly won’t shed any tears when Trump dies. Or even offer condolences. He’s a terrible excuse for a human and the world is better off with fewer people like him in it.

    Also, upon hearing the new I’ll admit that the cynic in me wondered if this was Trump attempting some sort of October surprise. He says he gets covid to garner sympathy, quarantines for a couple weeks, then comes out and says he beats it because he’s strong and it wasn’t that bad and people shouldn’t worry. And maybe also throw in something about hydroxychloriquine and/or a vaccine.

    No other president would have elicited this kind of thought from me, but Trump is such a conman that I wouldn’t put it past him to distract people from this shitshow of a debate and the thousand other terrible things he’s responsible for.

    And at this point I’m more worried for Biden. He spent 90 minutes standing near Trump getting yelled at by him. I sure hope Biden doesn’t test positive.

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  • #39627

    I don’t want Trump to die in office due to the political and social ramifications but when he does die, I will be very, very happy. He is a parasite and blight on humanity.

    Yeah, it’s tough, isn’t it? Because I’d be quite happy for the fucker to die from a horrible illness, especially this one that he’s responsible for so many others catching and dying from. But his death would be awkward in many ways and I’d rather see him in jail.

    It was the same thing with Boris. I’m not saying I wanted him to die from covid, but did he deserve to? Probably. But if he had, the Tory party would have made him a martyr to the cause of Brexit and whatnot. Although it’s hard to imagine that would have been as destructive as Boris himself actually is.

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  • #39629

    And at this point I’m more worried for Biden. He spent 90 minutes standing near Trump getting yelled at by him. I sure hope Biden doesn’t test positive.

    I saw clips (I couldn’t stomach the whole thing) but in those they were stood very far apart, like 20 feet or more.

    I’m assuming they skipped the customary handshakes.

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  • #39631

    And at this point I’m more worried for Biden. He spent 90 minutes standing near Trump getting yelled at by him. I sure hope Biden doesn’t test positive.

    I saw clips (I couldn’t stomach the whole thing) but in those they were stood very far apart, like 20 feet or more.

    I’m assuming they skipped the customary handshakes.

    I know if I had to shake hands with Trump, I’d clean and disinfect my hands regardless if there was a pandemic or not.

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  • #39632

    It’s a bit of a moot point now as I just saw tweets for the BBC that Biden has tested negative.

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  • #39635

    Hearing Trump tested positive brought a much needed smile to my face.

    Quite. I don’t know why anyone feels the need to be polite about this. Trump has caused, and will continue to cause, untold misery for thousands of people, not just in America, but around the world, for years to come. So fuck that guy. The only reason I wouldn’t want him to die from this, is because I’d rather he went to jail for his many crimes and died there instead.

    I think on a basic human decency level, some people will stop short of wanting to wish illness or death on anybody, no matter how awful a person they are.

    Yes, Trump may not have that degree of decency himself, but it doesn’t mean everyone has to sink to his level.

    (Although online I know there’s a definite tendency to go straight for the hyperbolic reaction.)

    Like you say, far better to let him be punished through legal means for all the shit he’s done.

    I don’t think it’s sinking to his level to wish ill on him. He’s done lots of things to deserve that, whereas the people he harms haven’t. This is a guy who’d go full Hitler given the chance. On a personal level, I know exactly what he thinks of my wife and daughter, so there’s nothing bad that could happen to him that wouldn’t leave me feeling happy and relieved.

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  • #39638

    It’s a bit of a moot point now as I just saw tweets for the BBC that Biden has tested negative.

    Yes but that was with voters.

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  • #39639

    I don’t think it’s sinking to his level to wish ill on him.

    Everyone has their own level on this stuff and it’s quite personal. There have been a parade of hateful characters in British politics and while I’ve often found myself vehemently disagreeing with everything they stand for, I can’t honestly say I’ve genuinely found myself wishing illness or death on anyone personally. I understand why someone might though.

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  • #39642

    I reckon they could go full Andropov here. Trump is actually dead but they pretend he isn’t. It’s even easier nowadays with deep fakes.

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  • #39644

    I reckon they could go full Andropov here. Trump is actually dead but they pretend he isn’t. It’s even easier nowadays with deep fakes.

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  • #39645

    Do the Proud Boys still stand by?

  • #39646

    Do the Proud Boys still stand by?

    They do but now they stand an extra two metres away.

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  • #39648

    The Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers… last time I really heard about militias in the news was the Oklahoma City bombing (Timothy McVeigh). They were at the time considered domestic terrorists, enemies with an anti-govt. agenda. How times have changed…

  • #39650

    I don’t want Trump to die in office due to the political and social ramifications but when he does die, I will be very, very happy. He is a parasite and blight on humanity.

    I, for one, hope he dies of COVID19. He lies even to his own supporters. He is evil incarnate.

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  • #39652

    The speaker has addressed this, on Weds afternoon, within 20 mins of finding out the MP was infected they had preventative measures underway.

    Ok thanks, I hadn’t heard that.

    I’m still dubious, though. If I scan a QR code to go into a place that’s later identified as being the source of an outbreak, it doesn’t matter if I spent less than 20 minutes in there (because they have no way to measure that, you don’t scan out), I’ll still have to spend two weeks under house arrest.

  • #39653

    I agree with you David, the absence of a check-out option is a weakness and to me (and bear in mind my job now is developing apps) is very easy to add.

  • #39654

    And, no, I’m not being satirical. There was an incident this summer that makes me feel he’s faking on an issue I deeply care about- him and the whole republican party. And there are people here who criticized him and the Republicans and me for that stance, but at least you’re honest about it. Having a whole group lying about the fact that they hate my stance is much much much worse than open disagreement and hostility.

    And no, I’m not voting for Biden either. They’re both bad. I dislike both parties equally, but for different reasons.

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  • #39657

    there are people here who criticized him and the Republicans and me for that stance

    I know you’re measuring your response to whatever vitriol we spew at ‘Trump voters’ here en masse but for what it is worth, don’t take that to mean we don’t like you.

    I don’t like that you voted for Trump. But I like you and your presence here regardless.

    And that goes for all of us.

    Period.

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  • #39658

    Vote for biden anyway. I’ll give you ten bucks.

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  • #39659

    I don’t want Trump to die in office due to the political and social ramifications but when he does die, I will be very, very happy. He is a parasite and blight on humanity.

    I, for one, hope he dies of COVID19. He lies even to his own supporters. He is evil incarnate.

    Finally, someone else said it. That means it’s okay that I say it too. That’s the new rules, right?

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  • #39660

    Don’t like the idea of not getting to personally kill him though. Might have to get on with it.



    @Christian
    , PM me with murder tips. The FAQ and some general circumstantial hints, if you please.

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  • #39662

    there are people here who criticized him and the Republicans and me for that stance

    I know you’re measuring your response to whatever vitriol we spew at ‘Trump voters’ here en masse but for what it is worth, don’t take that to mean we don’t like you.

    I don’t like that you voted for Trump. But I like you and your presence here regardless.

    And that goes for all of us.

    Period.

    First of all, I never meant that. I meant that my view is subject to vitriol.

    Second of all, I meant a view that we argued about as far back as Obama’s first term, and has been a divisive topic since before the internet was a big deal. I’m saying that there’s three factions on the issue, not two, but the faction that most of the movers and shakers in the GOP belong to pretends to belong to mine, but hate mine and the one a lot of people here support, even though both of us spew vitriol at each other, and will, as long as the two views exist. But I think that people who would attack that view, even with the most venom, are more ethical than pretending to support it, but really hating it. I’m just avoiding naming the issue, because I know even naming it is like dropping a nuke.

  • #39663

    The latest news seems to be that Trump has been hospitalised. I guess it’s serious.

  • #39664

    Could be precautionary, could be serious. But certainly means he’s having symptoms his doctors don’t want to ignore.

  • #39668

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  • #39671

    How about a joke Donnie, what do you get when you cross a narcissist devoid of logic ignoring the people he serves with a pandemic?

    You get what you fuckin DESERVE!

    FUCK that guy, he’s made me ashamed of my country.

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  • #39675

    Something new has been added:

    Kellyanne Conway, Former Top Adviser To Donald Trump, Tests Positive For Coronavirus

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  • #39677

    the absence of a check-out option

    Some places here do have the check out option (but I admit I neglected to do so a few times).

  • #39679

    Don’t like the idea of not getting to personally kill him though. Might have to get on with it. @Christian, PM me with murder tips.

    Wear a mask.

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  • #39680

    Could be precautionary, could be serious. But certainly means he’s having symptoms his doctors don’t want to ignore.

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  • #39685

    Thing is, chances are that he won’t develop severe symptoms. Even with people his age, it’s only like a one in eight chance or so that he could die from it. It’s likely that he’ll only be lightly affected, and then he’ll be able to say “See? It’s no big deal!” with the same logic with which he equates the weather and the climate.

    Also, relief as it would be to just see him gone, I think him suddenly dying would leave the US in a pretty bad place. You just know the QAnon conspiracy nuts would go into full apocalypse mode and he’d probably become some kind of martyr for the far right for ages to come. With this kind of push, a leap into proper terrorist territory doesn’t seem unlikely at all.

    I’d much rather see him badly lose this election and then be jailed for tax evasion and a dozen other crimes, and see him slowly sink into despair and madness on the TV interviews he’d give from prison.

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    Also, relief as it would be to just see him gone, I think him suddenly dying would leave the US in a pretty bad place

    I agree. I don’t think it would hep anything, better he just loses the election. I do think the news of his illness is genuine though because he’s being treated with remdesivir, if it was an act or exaggerated they’d be saying they were using his hydro-whatsit that he championed.

    With people I violently dislike I still never wish death on them, however I’m not going to pretend to be sad when it does happen.

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    As the positive tests spread through Republican high command (clearly they should just not be testing if they don’t want to test positive :scratch: ), including some senators, it’s had me wondering how many would need to be unavailable to vote on the Supreme Court nomination for it not to pass. Anyone know the maths on that?

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