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I wonder who’ll be next week’s Prime Minister?

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  • #122168

    He messed himself up. His statements are being fact checked. He got weird when he was talking about people eating cats and dogs.

    Now they are saying that she had some secret audio earpieces during the debate.

    Found this:

    And this interesting tidbit:

     

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  • #122178

    Come back Mark Rutte, you’re a slimey neoliberal but you know how to do politics at least.

    Can’t. He really has to take that NATO job; Stoltenberg needs to get some rest.

  • #122191

    Give a UK government, any government, a +100 majority and they will do something stupidly arrogant with it. But where it took Thatcher and Blair years to do so with the Poll Tax and Iraq, Starmer has done it in months with the withdrawal of winter fuel payments.

    The idea would always be controversial, but not even bothering to do an impact assessment is a gifted own goal born of arrogance.

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  • #122192

    As is the Treasury refusing to provide any details (some might say proof) of the supposed £22bn “black hole” in the finances. As if it doesn’t actually exist (to that degree) and they’ve picked a random number out of a hat to justify things they were going to do anyway.

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  • #122197

    I really think we should ideally have a system where politicians can be made to account if they break their promises. Maybe by creating a law that makes doing so a crime.

  • #122205

    Oh no, Arjan, this isn’t a broken promise, it’s a kept one! It was an un-noticed part of Labour’s manifesto.

  • #122221

    I tried to figure out what this was about, and it seems that
    – up to this point, these winter fuel payments were made to all pensioners regardless of how much money they have, giving state support to potentially quite wealthy people.
    – Labour wanted to save money by restricting this to pensioners who actually need support (which makes sense). But
    – they failed to appreciate that many very old people are unable to cope with the paperwork that submitting a claim for the winter fuel payments now entails.
    – and now a lot of old people already living in poverty will be potentially unable to pay their bills in the winter resulting in
    – political disaster for Labour.

    That pretty much it?

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    Ben
  • #122222

    Means testing a social benefit invariably costs more than just giving it to everyone as well.  It’s just performative cruelty.

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  • #122225

    The best counter I’ve seen, which avoids means testing, is you could restrict access by tax bands. Those that really don’t need it don’t get it while those that do retain it.

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  • #122226

    I think they could have done it on a city council level. In the Netherlands you can apply at the city council for “bijzondere bijstand” (special welfare) for unexpected bills that you can’t pay because you’re poor, things such as medical bills etc. I think high utility bills for older people could be put in that category.

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  • #122227

    Means testing a social benefit invariably costs more than just giving it to everyone as well.  It’s just performative cruelty.

    I know that’s true in many cases, but it has to depend to some extent on how much money is involved, doesn’t it?

    The best counter I’ve seen, which avoids means testing, is you could restrict access by tax bands. Those that really don’t need it don’t get it while those that do retain it.

    That does sound like an obvious solution, yeah.

  • #122228

    Ah, but it’s not as macho and that’s the other aspect here. Starmer and Reeves feel a need to demonstrate how well ‘ard they are.

    Thing is, I’m not sure who they’re trying to impress – the Torygraph, the Daily Heil and the Scum are never going to be their friends.

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  • #122229

    But Labour is way down in the polls. They better find another strategy.

  • #122232

    Next election is five years away, so that’s not a lever in the same way it could be elsewhere.

  • #122233

    Yeah, it does seem a bit like the Tony Blair school of Labour Doing Shit the Tories Would Do because apparently they lack the balls to follow proper social democratic policies.

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  • #122240

    The Swifties are after Trump now…

  • #122241

    Hey, he poked the bear.

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  • #122243

    The sheer gall of Labour trying to say it’s absolutely fine for private donors to be paying for/buying clothes for the Prime Minister and his wife because “they don’t get an allowance for clothing”. HE’S PAID A SALARY! They already don’t have to pay for most things in life, is clothing really too much to be covered by the £100 grand+ a year or whatever he makes?

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  • #122249

    The whole “assassination attempt” on Trump just reeks of a false flag operation.

    He not only got his ass handed to him by Harris in the debate, he is being openly mocked for his own own comments. He is not doing well in the polls. Cue the attempt on a Sunday, where it will play into the week. This is Trump’s people trying to save the campaign.

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  • #122255

    Nah, I don’t think that’s likely. Too high a risk the guy would talk to stage all of this.

    Anyway, it’s crazy there’s been a second unsucessful assassination attempt on Trump. Jesus fucking Christ. Every crazy is going Dead Zone on him, it seems.

    The Swifties are after Trump now…

    Personal theory: He feels especially hurt by Taylor’s coming out for Harris because he posted those “Swift supports Trump” AI-generated images in August not knowing they weren’t actually factual images. He actually believed Swift supports him, and now it hurts so much more. It feels like Taylor betrayed him.

    Liz Cheney’s reaction to this was fun, you have to give it to her:

    Ex-congresswoman and frequent Trump political opponent Liz Cheney summed up the typical reaction to Sunday’s post, invoking the title of a Swift song and writing on X: “Says the smallest man who ever lived.”

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  • #122260

    The whole “assassination attempt” on Trump just reeks of a false flag operation.

    He not only got his ass handed to him by Harris in the debate, he is being openly mocked for his own own comments. He is not doing well in the polls. Cue the attempt on a Sunday, where it will play into the week. This is Trump’s people trying to save the campaign.

    Apparently the shooter voted for Trump in 2016, his social media has been scrubbed but the screengrabs I’ve seen are all over the place politically.  Backing Bernie at one point, then asking Elon Musk for a rocket to fire at Moscow, then begging Vivek Ramasawany and Nikki Haley to team up…

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  • #122261

    So, not the most stable person, then?

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  • #122264

    Yeah, his most consistent position seems to be supporting Ukraine in the war, but that’s it.

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  • #122266

    He traveled to Ukraine and apparently also appeared in an Azov ad.

  • #122273

    The whole “assassination attempt” on Trump just reeks of a false flag operation.

    He not only got his ass handed to him by Harris in the debate, he is being openly mocked for his own own comments. He is not doing well in the polls. Cue the attempt on a Sunday, where it will play into the week. This is Trump’s people trying to save the campaign.

    Apparently the shooter voted for Trump in 2016, his social media has been scrubbed but the screengrabs I’ve seen are all over the place politically.  Backing Bernie at one point, then asking Elon Musk for a rocket to fire at Moscow, then begging Vivek Ramasawany and Nikki Haley to team up…

    A crazy person with guns in America seeking to harm people.

    Who could have seen that coming?

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  • #122278

    A crazy person with guns in America seeking to harm people.

    Must be Monday.

    Or Tuesday.

    Or any day of the week.

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  • #122328

    Teamsters union skips 2024 presidential endorsement, won’t back Harris or Trump

    How bad is this, really?

  • #122363

    How bad is this, really?

    It makes the Teamsters look like ungrateful assholes, IMO. Biden and Harris bailed out the Teamsters pension fund and have consistently supported unions, as opposed to Trump’s predilection to fire union members who threaten to strike.

    The good news is, some local unions are throwing their support behind Harris in opposition to their national bosses.

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  • #122376

    It seems like they wanted something very specific, which they didn’t get:

    But neither candidate in their interviews, according to Teamsters, agreed not to intervene in labor disputes under the Railway Labor Act, which gives Congress the authority to set contracts in the rail and airline industries. To avert a freight rail shutdown in 2022, Congress approved a new contract for rail workers that lacked support of Teamsters’ members.

    “We sought commitments from both Trump and Harris not to interfere in critical union campaigns or core Teamsters industries ‐ and to honor our members’ right to strike – but were unable to secure those pledges,” O’Brien said.

    And the specifics of who the actual members of these unions support are not great:

    Ahead of its announcement, Teamsters released internal polling data of members that found the majority of them back Trump over Harris, even as leaders of other unions have widely backed the vice president.

    In a phone survey of Teamsters members taken last week, 58% said they support Trump and 31% said they back Harris. An electronic survey taken over the summer found a similar 60-34% margin in favor of Trump.

    When President Joe Biden was the presumptive Democratic nominee, a Teamsters straw poll taken in the spring and summer found rank-and-file members backed Biden 44%-37% over Trump, according to the union. However, the straw poll used a different methodology, with members voting in person at Teamsters town halls.

    That does sound potentially bad.

  • #122385

    Those turkeys want to vote for Xmas.

  • #122405

    A philosopher should write something about the “fatbike” problem we have in the Netherlands. It is a real nuisance, pretty much everybody agrees something should be done about these things as they make the bike lane unsafe. But bureaucratically it is very difficult to see what exactly should be done about them.

     

    They have apps which drive up their maximum speed, which is illegal, but if you turn the app off the police can’t detect it. I am not sure there is a way around this. At the moment the police and politics that want to do something about this look like absolute fools. I think it is also symbolic for the completely kafkaesque, idiotic government we have now.

     

    Also you can’t just make fatbikes illegal, because they’re ill defined. It’s basically just an e-bike with fat tires.

  • #122420

    Interesting. We don’t have that problem here yet, but I am sure it’s going to spill over at some point…

    It should be pretty easy to force the manufacturers to make it impossible to go beyond regulation speed, if there’s the political will.

    Which reminds me: I do NOT understand that there isn’t a form of deposit regulation for those vape thingies. A lot of them end up in the normal trash (or even just scattered by the wayside), which is terrible because they’re full of, like, electronics and poison. We have a very effective deposit regulation for bottles and drinking cans, and it’d be the easiest thing to introduce one for that vaping shit. But we haven’t, so those things have disastrous environmental effects.

  • #122534

    This election is insanely close still…I think it comes down to three states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If Harris wins these three, she wins the election, but she can’t afford to lose any one of the three. She has a good lead in the polls in Michigan and Wisconsin, but the lead she has in Pennsylvania is razor thin.

  • #122540

    Maybe it’s time for Putin to release the “golden shower” video from that Moscow hotel room…

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  • #122543

    And frazzledrip!

  • #122550

    We’re utterly fucked. :D

     

    Basically we’re unable to make any decision that helps us. We will continue to struggle on as everything gets worse and ultimately falls apart.

     

     

     

     

  • #122551

    One word, Arjan.

    Covfefe.

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  • #122552

    Nuclear fusion will save us…. until the tech bros use it exclusively for AI.

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  • #122599

    Basically we’re unable to make any decision that helps us. We will continue to struggle on as everything gets worse and ultimately falls apart.

    What I tell myself is, at least things are going to get really interesting up to that point. Well, and afterwards. We’re finally living in the future of the sci-fi novels of our youth, unfortunately it’s mostly the darker ones.

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  • #122601

    We’re living in the timeline of Do Not Create The Torment Nexus.

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  • #122620

    We’re living in the timeline of Do Not Create The Torment Nexus.

    Wait, we WEREN’T supposed to create the Torment Nexus?!?!

    Damn, it would have been nice if someone somehow let everyone know not to create the Torment Nexus.

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  • #122629

    That Vance Walz debate.

    Years ago, Vance said about Trump ‘My god, what an idiot!’ and ‘could be America’s Hitler’ and is ‘unfit for nation’s highest office’. What the hell happened between then and now? Even his wife Usha Vance is a daughter of Indian immigrants and a Yale law school. grad. She was formerly a Democrat.

    Then again the same can be said about Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham and other GOP who have quotes condemning him when he was running.

    They all went through something, but the contrast… Dem and GOP are interchangeable.

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  • #122631

    Wilders has got to be the biggest Israel dicksucker, fucking hell…

     

    Dilan Yesilgoz said the attack on Nasrallah “offers a chance of peace”…HALP? The politicians here are all lunatics.

  • #122648

    Israeli firefighting 101:

    1. Supply your hoses with petrol

    2. Express surprise when the fire explodes

    3. Repeat

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  • #122663

    All while having a much bigger firefighter standing behind you, with a much larger firehose that will fight all your fires for you.

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  • #122666

    That one uses napalm.

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  • #122668

    And the firemen all have lit cigarettes in their mouths.

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  • #122674

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DArLPGnIJD3/?igsh=MWluN2twZGVqanlrcA==

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  • #122677

    I’m noticing Netanyahu doesn’t give a shit about anything Biden says.

  • #122679

    Well of course not. When has Biden (or anyone else in the US) saying anything a) deterred Israel or b) lead to any consequences affecting US support of Israel?

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  • #122774

    Starmer era’s going well then.

    Keir Starmer replaced his top aide and the Treasury acknowledged that key tax-raising plans were under review, as the Labour government tried to correct course from what even allies say has been a rocky three months in power.


    Starmer and Chancellor Rachel Reeves must now turn their attention to a budget on Oct. 30 that is already coming under strain, with the viability of more than half the extra revenue that Labour planned to raise to fix Britain’s public services now being questioned.
    Plans to impose value-added tax on private school fees, announced in Labour’s election manifesto and due to come into force in January, may have to be delayed to prevent administrative problems, aides said, confirming a report in the Observer newspaper on Sunday.
    Reeves is also reconsidering a planned overhaul of the UK’s tax regime for non-domiciled foreigners, looking at different policy options to maximize the tax take after suggestions it would spark a wealth exodus and end up losing money for the Treasury.
    Private Equity
    Further proposals to close a loophole on carried interest — private equity fund managers’ portion of profits on asset sales — are being looked at again after internal Treasury analysis showed they too could end up costing the exchequer money.

    The private equity firm General Atlantic has warned the government that dozens of dealmakers in London could leave if plans for higher taxes on carried interest go ahead. The hedge fund billionaire Alan Howard is considering a move to Geneva from London. Jeremy Coller, a pioneer of Britain’s private equity sector, has already left for Switzerland.

    ::eyeroll::

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  • #122808

    Plans to impose value-added tax on private school fees, announced in Labour’s election manifesto and due to come into force in January, may have to be delayed to prevent administrative problems, aides said, confirming a report in the Observer newspaper on Sunday.
    Reeves is also reconsidering a planned overhaul of the UK’s tax regime for non-domiciled foreigners, looking at different policy options to maximize the tax take after suggestions it would spark a wealth exodus and end up losing money for the Treasury.
    Private Equity
    Further proposals to close a loophole on carried interest — private equity fund managers’ portion of profits on asset sales — are being looked at again after internal Treasury analysis showed they too could end up costing the exchequer money.

    So the rich are threatening to flee if they have to pay proper taxes, what else is new? Fuck them, I hope Labour doesn’t get cowed by their empty threats.

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    Ben
  • #122895

    Slim hope of that. It seems abundantly clear already that Starmer is bought and paid for.

    On a similar note:

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    Ah yes, because that’s been the big problem in the British housing and development market, regulations.

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  • #122900

    *sigh*

    You know, doubts about Starmer aside, I suspect that Labour in Britain is in a similar situation as the current German-Labour-equivalent-led coalition government in Germany has been in the last few years: The conservative government that was in power in Germany for decades under Merkel has run the country so far into the ground that there is just too much to fix. It would need huge investments to do that, and the money just isn’t there.

    So our bridges are crumbling, the public transport system is falling apart (as the recent football cup here demonstrated to the whole world) and everything in bureaucracy takes forever because there isn’t enough manpower there. And while this is all the former government’s fault, the current one is being blamed for not fixing it fast enough and the CDU will be back in power after the next election.

    https://www.thelocal.de/20240911/bridge-partially-collapses-in-germanys-dresden

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  • #122903

    There is an element of that, but I think it lets Labour, and Starmer, off the hook too much for their own failings and hypocrisy.

    Take the freebies thing. Starmer made great hay of Boris Johnson’s cash-grabs and freebies – to the point of even going and doing a photo op in John Lewis looking at wallpaper when it came out that Johnson got ridiculously expensive gold stuff installed in no 10 – and yet here he is, in office less than three months, and he’s getting designer clothes and glasses, sports and concert tickets etc for free. And their only response seems to be “well the Tories were even worse,” as is that makes their sleaze acceptable, somehow.

    Then there’s Starmer’s inability to stick to promises. He made a raft of pledges when he ran for party leadership: ditched them all when he became leader in the excuse of “country first, party second”. He made a load of vows in the general election: most of them are getting dropped or watered down because of “the financial black hole” they suddenly discovered when they came into office, even though they’d been told about it repeatedly during the campaign and refused to acknowledge it.

    When he became LOTO, loads of centrists were frothing about, because he was a lawyer, he was going to be “forensic”. And yet so much of this in the past three months has been entirely avoidable and he’s walked right into it and in most cases made it worse. The free box at Arsenal thing (provided by the Premier League, who are the subject of a regulator the government is supposed to be setting up), for example. He claims it’s because it’s too much of a security risk being in the stands now. Which I don’t really believe (Sunak did that stunt in the stands at a match last year or so, John Major used to go to the cricket no problem) and doesn’t say much about other Arsenal season ticket holders if true, frankly (and he seemed to be fine going to that Taylor Swift concert without a private box). But his line of “it’s a choice between taking the free executive box or not getting to go to a game” just made the situation even worse. He sounds entitled. Lots of people have to choose between work and getting to go to the football. It’s not a god-given right to get to go to live games and heaven forfend that being Prime Minister comes with some kind of sacrifice.

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  • #122910

    It’s almost like our politicians are full of shit and don’t know what they’re doing.

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  • #122912

    Well, some are and some aren’t. Somehow it often seems like the wrong ones end up in power.

    Over here, the Green Party has made every effort to do the right things, but they’re being sabotaged at every step by the neo-liberals in the coalition.

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  • #122914

    Green politics here is mostly a thing for rich white libs with luxury beliefs, the consequences of which don’t really affect them. Not sure if it’s the same in Germany, so I can’t judge that.

     

    Didn’t your greens get rid of nuclear plants? Personally I would be against that, I think nuclear can play a positive role.

     

    I am wary of this “degrowth” agenda that at least part of the green movement seems to have. I think it could hurt a lot of poor people. I am not even sure if it really is left wing.

     

  • #122915

    Both things are true:

    – Starmer’s stepped on several entirely avoidable rakes.

    – The media are far more indulgent to the right-wing.

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  • #122919

    Both things are true:

    – Starmer’s stepped on several entirely avoidable rakes.

    – The media are far more indulgent to the right-wing.

    Oh there definitely is a factor of how these attacks are mostly coming from the right wing press, but while that makes them hypocrites too it doesn’t automatically make their concerns (however bad faith) irrelevant, as some Labour people keep trying to spin it.

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  • #122925

    My main takeaway from the first 100 days of the Labour government is that they’ve been almost breathtakingly naive in apparently not seeing so much of this coming (with entirely avoidable own goals like the gifts that were accepted), and also pretty cackhanded in terms of trying to explain any of their big ideas in a way that connects with people and shows how they’re trying to make their lives better.

    Aside from a couple of early bold moves, they’ve overall given the impression of a party that didn’t expect to gain power and didn’t have firm plans for what they would do once they did, despite all the evidence that pointed to a huge Tory defeat.

    Starmer definitely doesn’t have the indulgences from the press that his Tory predecessors did, and there’s definitely a sense of the rightwing media trying to seize on anything and everything they can to attack Labour. And I still think that this Labour government is a significant improvement over what we had before.

    But it’s hard not to feel underwhelmed so far.

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  • #122927

    Didn’t your greens get rid of nuclear plants? Personally I would be against that, I think nuclear can play a positive role.

    Nah, the Greens always were in favour of shutting them down, but it was Merkel and her conservative government who did it. After Fukushima. But I am generally in favour of getting out of nuclear; I can see the arguments for it – obviously – but you can’t replace one unsolvable problem with another. And you shouldn’t, when there’s actual solutions you can use.

    Green politics here is mostly a thing for rich white libs with luxury beliefs, the consequences of which don’t really affect them. Not sure if it’s the same in Germany, so I can’t judge that.

    That only works if you believe that climate change won’t primarily affect the least wealthy. Which it will.
    It’s funny that the lower-to-middle-income classes have let themselves be convinced that it’s too expensive to fix our breaking the world, but that it’s at the same time unrealistic to touch the rich’s incomes and wealth to sustain our societies.

    I am wary of this “degrowth” agenda that at least part of the green movement seems to have. I think it could hurt a lot of poor people. I am not even sure if it really is left wing.

    Yeah, I don’t see how degrowth can work in a capitalist system. But the thing we actually can, and desperately need to, do right now is to at least switch to more sustainable energies and materials. To just keep going while the climate is radically changing all around us is insane to an extent that I find that position very hard to relate to.

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  • #122928

    Case in point of Labour being stupid: Starmer says he’ll cut red tape to hype up this investment summit.

    What he should be saying is Labour welcomes responsible investment so the country can start to be rebuilt, without risking another Grenfell, which is what followed the last load of regulation shredding.

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  • #122929

    Yeah, I don’t see how degrowth can work in a capitalist system. But the thing we actually can, and desperately need to, do right now is to at least switch to more sustainable energies and materials. To just keep going while the climate is radically changing all around us is insane to an extent that I find that position very hard to relate to.

    I’m slowly working my way through Edible Economics. Its opening intro explains 1970s Britain’s food was terrible, jump forward 40 years and the food has improved immensely, but its economics has become that 1970s food scene: bland, no character, laissez-faire all the time.

    Haven’t got to the other schools of economics that we never hear about, which would give governments different economic levers to use, in combination with imaginative and innovative policies.

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  • #122934

    Didn’t your greens get rid of nuclear plants? Personally I would be against that, I think nuclear can play a positive role.

    Nah, the Greens always were in favour of shutting them down, but it was Merkel and her conservative government who did it. After Fukushima. But I am generally in favour of getting out of nuclear; I can see the arguments for it – obviously – but you can’t replace one unsolvable problem with another. And you shouldn’t, when there’s actual solutions you can use.

    Green politics here is mostly a thing for rich white libs with luxury beliefs, the consequences of which don’t really affect them. Not sure if it’s the same in Germany, so I can’t judge that.

    That only works if you believe that climate change won’t primarily affect the least wealthy. Which it will.
    It’s funny that the lower-to-middle-income classes have let themselves be convinced that it’s too expensive to fix our breaking the world, but that it’s at the same time unrealistic to touch the rich’s incomes and wealth to sustain our societies.

    I am wary of this “degrowth” agenda that at least part of the green movement seems to have. I think it could hurt a lot of poor people. I am not even sure if it really is left wing.

    Yeah, I don’t see how degrowth can work in a capitalist system. But the thing we actually can, and desperately need to, do right now is to at least switch to more sustainable energies and materials. To just keep going while the climate is radically changing all around us is insane to an extent that I find that position very hard to relate to.

    Eh, I can’t say I’m entirely unconcerned by climate change – but it’s not my main concern.

  • #122948

    What an utter idiot:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/14/unemployed-could-be-given-weight-loss-jabs-to-get-back-to-work-says-wes-streeting

    Here’s your jab, now get a job fatty! Oh yeah, how could such a smart idea go so badly, badly wrong? So very easily. Streeting would be better saying he wants to give a blank cheque to pharma companies.

  • #122950

    Eh, I can’t say I’m entirely unconcerned by climate change – but it’s not my main concern.

    Not yet. Give it another decade or two and it will be. Only then it’ll be too late to do anything about it.

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  • #122955

    Eh I’m sure the media will keep pushing the message  that climate is the most important thing ever and people have to be prepared to make every sacrifice to save it, so maybe people will fall in line eventually. But right now I think for many people other things are more important. We’re pretty much in world war three right now, so that is more important. But I also think the elites are on shaky ground demanding sacrifices from the common man when they’re already plucked bare. People want decent jobs, a nice place to live, tasty affordable food in stores, safe streets…when you’re not meeting these needs as a politician, you can’t demand people give up even more, to stop the temperature from changing a few degrees.

     

     

  • #122957

    Better develop the ability to live underwater then.

    In other news, damn, this is accurate:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/14/starmer-tries-and-fails-to-keep-up-with-the-business-in-crowd-jargon

  • #122958

    While I would agree that the sacrifices should currently mainly be made on the different end of the spectrum – like, how many yachts and cars does a single person really need? – you would think that stopping the end of civilisation as we know it would be in most people’s interest.

    you can’t demand people give up even more, to stop the temperature from changing a few degrees. their children from living in a post-apocalyptic hellscape.

    Edited for clarity.

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  • #122966

    Eh, I can’t say I’m entirely unconcerned by climate change – but it’s not my main concern.

    Not yet. Give it another decade or two and it will be. Only then it’ll be too late to do anything about it.

    Someone recently said that the face of the climate crisis will be social media videos of towns and cities getting wiped out, each one closer to you than the last until you’re the one taking the video.  That feels particurarly poignant.

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  • #122970

    But those of us that purchased higher will end up with a little “beach front property” (as Luthor would say), so it’s all good…

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  • #122992

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241012-jewish-school-in-canada-hit-by-gunfire-for-second-time

     

    I think we can be assured that pretty soon Jews won’t be safe in most Western countries. Jewish schools in the Netherlands all have police protection.

  • #123003

    This could be some good news:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/live-updates-hamas-leader-yahya-sinwar-possibly-killed-gaza-rcna175922

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  • #123006

    Sadly, that is unlikely to stop the killing.

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  • #123051

    Yeah, other international leaders jumped on this to talk about how now there’s a chance for peace, but we all know that there isn’t.

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  • #123067

    Sadly, that is unlikely to stop the killing.

    Some experts are saying with Sinwar dead and Israel unwilling to a ceasefire, Hamas has no real incentive to keep the hostages alive anymore.

    Of course, Netanyahu will declare them martyrs and use their deaths as a reason to keep the war going.

  • #123068

    Yep. Once this all ends, Netanyahu and his coalition is toast. Therefore they will keep the killing going, which enough Israelis are happy to support.

    That those actions fan the flames of anti-semitism globally will only be used to justify the continuation on the basis that the world hates Israel. It’s a messed-up logic.

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  • #123073

    The cooperation between Musk and Trump is very problematic. I’ve read some one saying Musk is hoping to rule the US while Trump is sidelined as a senile patient. That seems to be unrealistic to actually materialize, but it might definitely be something Musk is hoping for.

     

    The polls seem to give Trump an edge right now. But it is very close.

  • #123106

    I saw an interesting thread this morning (on Twitter, ironically) about the forces looking to use Trump as a puppet.

    Suspiciously, Twitter is being shit about showing the whole thread, so here it is copied elsewhere.

    https://mem.ai/p/rxEtqT5REEgAYVNzw5iy

    1/ No Trump voter is saying that they are voting for Trump because they want J.D. Vance to be president. Or Elon Musk. Or Peter Thiel. MAGA voters believe they will be getting MAGA if they vote red.

    They are absolutely not going to get that. They are going to get the *opposite*.

    2/ Donald Trump is running to stay out of prison, which he’s entitled to do.

    But he didn’t expect to win in 2016 and didn’t enjoy being president. He might not have run this time had he not felt embarrassed about 2020 and been worried about being imprisoned if he loses immunity.

    3/ He’s hiding his medical records and looks and sounds unwell. He’s cancelling events due to—his own team says—“exhaustion.” He’s doing fewer events than ever. He’s rambling and mixing up dates and names more than ever before, to the point media is starting to write about it.

    4/ He would be the oldest human to be sworn in as president. His wife and daughter have largely abandoned him. He just swayed and bopped silently to his own iPod playlist in front of a crowd for 40 minutes. There’s something wrong with him. Even if he wins, he won’t be president.

    5/ All this was known to Musk, Thiel and Rupert Murdoch when they convened in California early this summer (feel free to Google it; it’s uncontested) to figure out who’d be Trump’s running mate. They and their ally Tucker Carlson knew the GOP VP candidate would be de facto POTUS.

    6/ Canada just revealed it has evidence that Tucker Carlson is a Kremlin agent. So at least one of the men who chose the MAGA ticket is an agent of an enemy of America.

    Obviously this is enough to avoid that ticket like the plague—forever—but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

    7/ Peter Thiel is part of a creepy far-right techno-authoritarian cult headed by failed coder and utterly mid “intellectual” Curtis Yarvin.

    Yarvin has proposed that he and a group of other tech bros decide which humans worldwide are “productive” and turn all the others into goo.

    8/ Oh, you think I’m kidding? https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

    9/ You’ll notice that the Yarvinist listed in the headline of the preceding article *isn’t* Thiel. No—it’s Thiel’s disciple, Vance, who Thiel *and Yarvin* have been grooming (yes, that is the right word) for years to become president so that Yarvin and Thiel can rule through him.

    10/ When they saw that Trump was running not to be president but to avoid jail; when they saw how elderly and infirm Trump had become, and incapable of being POTUS even if elected; when Tucker Carlson convinced Trump that picking anyone but the Yarvinist Vance would cause him…

    11/ …to get assassinated by the Deep State (again, Google it, it’s uncontested that this is how Kremlin agent Tucker Carlson got Trump to pick Vance); they realized this was the moment to make their techno-authoritarian dream come true.

    continued

     

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  • #123142

    The cooperation between Musk and Trump is very problematic. I’ve read some one saying Musk is hoping to rule the US while Trump is sidelined as a senile patient. That seems to be unrealistic to actually materialize, but it might definitely be something Musk is hoping for.

    Trump doesn’t need to be sidelined, he’ll give Musk everything he asks for for his suppport.

  • #123148

    In case you missed it, this is Austria but the pattern replicates globally, as mainstream conservative parties burn themselves and everyone else to the ground to hold onto power:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/europe-far-right-austria-herbert-kickl-fpo-centre-right

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  • #123149

    mainstream conservative parties burn themselves and everyone else to the ground to hold onto power

    Definitely sounds familiar.

  • #123153

    Disgusting…

     

  • #123154

    Definitely sounds familiar.

    Yeah, that rings a bell.

    Disgusting…

    I think when we look back at this in a decade or so, many countries will be very ashamed at how long they kept supporting Netanyahu’s actions.

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  • #123160

    Weird to see Lizzo of all people palling around with Harris, wasn’t she cancelled? Who is going to endorse her next, Pee Diddy?

  • #123165

    Yeah, it might not have been a good idea to invite her to campaign events.

    On the other hand, this shows once again just how much being “cancelled” actually means.

    Speaking of which, in Germany there’s currently another old white dude celebrity making the rounds through every talkshow on TV to talking loudly and at length about how he isn’t allowed to say anything anymore – and he’s also written a whole book about that topic that’s sure to be a huge bestseller. It’s all just so, so silly.
    (Thomas Gottschalk started out doing TV comedies and as a radio presenter and became, with the show “Wetten, dass…” the German TV presenter and all-around celebrity for many, many decades. I already couldn’t stand him in the nineties.)

    In Der Spiegel, Gottschalk was confronted by editor Vicky Bargel and editor Alexander Kühn primarily about his previous actions and words in comparison to claims in his book. The basic tone of the questions in the interview, which was headlined with the Gottschalk quote “I touched women on TV purely for professional reasons,” was something like this: Gottschalk, now 74, may not have aged well; he is now celebrating a past that was not any better, although he claims the opposite – and so somehow cannot cope with the present. Ultimately, he is an ageing man who is fighting against being deported by insulting young people. […]

    Gottschalk’s complaint, which has become a book, appears to be essentially an extension of his final monologue at the end of his last Wetten, dass…? show a year ago. Gottschalk claimed that he used to “always say on TV what I said at home. Now I talk differently at home than I do on TV – and that’s not a great development. And before some desperate production manager runs back and forth and says: You’ve started another shitstorm – then I’d rather not say anything at all.” He is now apparently doing this in a book, by putting into writing what he used to do full-time on TV: He delivers and stages a calculated transgression, but no longer as entertainment (not even as raunchy).

    https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2024-10/thomas-gottschalk-buch-ungefiltert-meinung

  • #123167

    Hehe yeah we have a guy like that. A boomer who says “outrageous things” and then complains that everobody is too sensitive.

     

    I dunno, in general I am in favor of good manners, but I am also in favor of parrhesia. Sometimes you have to say things some people will find insulting.

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  • #123171

    Sometimes you have to say things some people will find insulting.

    Bollocks

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  • #123174

    Sometimes you have to say things some people will find insulting.

    Bollocks

    Heh! Like I say at work; “I’ve got two words for you. Suck my fuckin’ balls.”

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  • #123175

    It can be very difficult to judge these things…the boomer I mentioned was sued for saying something about Israel which some thought was antisemitic. He had said something like “The Jews have treated Palestinians badly”. The people who took offense took this to mean all Jews treat Palestinians badly and therefore all Jews are bad people. However the court took it more losely, judging that he meant it specifically in the context of Israel and not all Jews, or even all Israelis. It’s like saying “The Japanese have attacked Pearl Harbour, it doesn’t mean all Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour.

     

    Sometimes things can be interpreted in multiple ways and unfortunately some people will take things to mean the worst thing they can make it out to be. I am sure I make such mistakes too sometimes.

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  • #123181

    When it comes to Israel/Palestine, it makes a lot of sense to make sure to talk about Israeli policy specifically and not about “the Jews”. But this has always been a difficult discourse, and one in which especially the Left tends to tear itself apart (see also, France currently).

  • #123182

    I love Jasmine Crockett!

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  • #123196

    Trump did a tweet on his truth social network about the Armenians that fled from Nagorno Karabakh, interesting. In 2023 100,000 Christians were ethnically cleansed in an Islamic country and nobody gave a shit.

  • #123249

    Trump did a tweet on his truth social network about the Armenians that fled from Nagorno Karabakh, interesting. In 2023 100,000 Christians were ethnically cleansed in an Islamic country and nobody gave a shit.

    Wow, you really hadn’t heard of this conflict until Trump told you about it? I mean, the Nagorno-Karabakh war was criminally underreported, I completely agree, but that’s still a bit surprising.

    As for nobody giving a shit, yes, this should have been far bigger in the media. But it’s not like the human rights NGOs didn’t sound the alarms, and it’s not like there were no political reactions, and it’s not like those of us who do try to have some awareness of the world didn’t know about it and didn’t pay attention. Fuck, System of a Down released to songs about this conflicts in 2020.

    The big problem with this conflict is that Turkey is backing Azerbaijan and Russia used to kind of protect Armenia, but then some years ago withdrew that protection to a large extent (due to setting their sights on different targets, presumably, or as a result of their then-new coalition with Turkey. Possibly also to punish Armenia for being EU-curious, because if you’re interested in that, Russia will destroy you, as they have amply demonstrated recently). So now Armenia has nobody to back them militarily, because that would mean a conflict with both Russia and Turkey, and the EU can’t afford the former and didn’t want to commit to the latter before the Ukraine invasion – and now Ukraine just is the bigger fish. So everybody does their best to just look away and act like nothing’s happening, not unlike they all did with the Krim invasion a few years ago.

    So yes, the Armenians are fucked, once again. It’s a fucking disgrace and horrible, but it’s not like it is so much different from the way the Kurds are fucked in Rojava and just in general, which is also criminally underreported and somehow I doubt that Trump gives a shit about them.

    Because he, and then you, didn’t put this in terms of ethnicity, or politics, or nationality, or history. For you, apparently, this is only relevant because it is a criminal war of one religion against another – the one you and Trump are a part of. Well, I hope this isn’t true for you, but I know it is for Trump. Well, no, I actually don’t. I don’t think he gives a shit either way. But he knows what his audience wants.

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  • #123270

    Something brewing in Georgia.

     

  • #123282

    Finally, good political news:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c704eedkqkvo

    Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, aka Tommy Robinson, jailed for 18 months for contempt of court.

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  • #123285

    Bulgaria had elections as well. Still the same ungovernable mess.

     

    Borissov wins Bulgarian elections as vote in favour of populists surge

     

     

  • #123293

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/philadelphia-da-sues-elon-musk-controversial-1-million/story?id=115217050

    DA has a case. Interesting that in Georgia, after it got the votes to Biden (mainly because of the grass roots efforts of Stacy Abrams), the law was passed against any “bribe” including even giving a bottle of water or food to anyone on long election lines. (They were that pissed off.)

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html

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  • #123326

    Interesting.

     

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/29/southport-murder-accused-charged-terror-offence/

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