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A prominent Chinese vlogger has suggested Hamas are too mild and Israel has to be treated similarly to Germany and Japan in WW2, and they have to destroy and slaughter whole cities basically, like was done to Hiroshima and Dresden.
Honestly this is a conflict between civilization and barbarism. If you defend the wanton slaughter of innocents, wether Israelis or Palestinians, you’re evil.
SO STOP SUPPORTING THE SLAUGHTER OF PALESTINIANS
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Honestly, Arjan, currently you’re not engaging in our discussion at all, you’re just posting random social media “news” into this thread. Might as well stop posting anything at all if that’s all you’re going to do.
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A prominent Chinese vlogger has suggested Hamas are too mild and Israel has to be treated similarly to Germany and Japan in WW2, and they have to destroy and slaughter whole cities basically, like was done to Hiroshima and Dresden.
Yeah but Arjan, why should we care about a Chinese vlogger and his or her opinion?
We have a society now where basically anyone can broadcast, make their own TV or radio show. It doesn’t mean they are well informed or have much useful to add. Has the vlogger ever been to Israel or Palestine? More likely they just sit in China and make provocative statements for clicks.
Elon Musk is a big fan of Ian Miles Cheong who posts day and night on US policy, he lives in Ipoh in Malaysia and has said in a past post he’s never even been to the USA. In truth he has no real interest in shit like gun policy in the USA, it doesn’t affect him or me for that matter, he’s getting ad revenue for being provocative and cultivating a particular audience.
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Wired has a good article on how X is a source of bad information concerning the war:
The Israel-Hamas War Is Drowning X in Disinformation
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Yeah but I found this article by Random Bastard #476-shags-yer-mum….
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No, they were murdered and their perpetrator has been shot dead.
Quit being a fuckwit.
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If you need more positivity in your day, try this website. It shows you all the good going on in the world. I get their daily newsletter.
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If you need more positivity in your day, try this website. It shows you all the good going on in the world. I get their daily newsletter.
https://www.goodgoodgood.co/%5B/quote%5D
It’s probably a link to that Rick Astley video; nice try, Todd!!
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And two Swedes got AllahuAkbared yesterday in Belgium. Apparently the perp was looking for Swedes because of the quran burnings there.
And a Muslim woman and her child were stabbed to death by their Christian landlord in America.
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A good summary of how and why things went the way they have in the Middle East:
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Blast kills hundreds at Gaza hospital; Hamas and Israel trade blame, as Biden heads to Mideast
Sad thing is, both explanations are plausible.
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To be honest Arjan I’m getting increasingly uncomfortable with the way this conversation is veering into outright racism at times.
It’s obviously a time of high emotion given world events, but I think that makes it even more important that we try and keep a level head, and not get sucked into the trap of demonising any particular race or religion.
I don’t want to quash discussion of what is an important topic but I like to think that we’re all intelligent and informed enough to do that without slipping into the kind of hyperbole or slurs we’ve had recently in this thread.
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https://www.theonion.com/what-to-know-about-what-s-happening-in-israel-and-gaza-1850923354
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If you need more positivity in your day, try this website. It shows you all the good going on in the world. I get their daily newsletter.
https://www.goodgoodgood.co/%5B/quote%5D
It’s probably a link to that Rick Astley video; nice try, Todd!!
On the other hand, that _would_ bring positivity into your life!
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I have Jewish and Muslim colleagues, they are not having a good time with what has gone on.
The only bright spot is the staff groups for both are talking to each other. Because not going with the tribal reductionism pushed by the Internet and irresponsible politicians is about the only card within our ability to play.
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In an Act of Solidarity, Chicago-Area Rabbis Attend Funeral of Boy Killed in Anti-Muslim Hate Crime
In the wake of an ongoing humanitarian crisis in Israel and the Gaza Strip, both Jewish and Muslim communities worry about a rise of hate crimes around the globe.
Tragically, this weekend, Wadea Al-Fayoume, a six-year-old boy in Chicago was reportedly killed by his landlord for being Palestinian and Muslim.
Al-Fayoume and his mother, Hanan Shaheen, were stabbed in their home by their landlord, who, according to the Will County sheriff’s office, was motivated by hate for Muslims amid the fighting in Israel and Gaza.
The landlord, Joseph M. Czuba was charged with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, two counts of hate crimes, and aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, according to NPR.
Shaheen is currently recovering in the hospital from serious injuries.
Attorney General Merrick Garland said The Justice Department opened a hate crime investigation into the attack.
As a way to bridge divides and show solidarity, a group of Chicago-area rabbis attended the funeral of Al-Fayoume.
Skokie Valley Agudath Jacob Synagogue’s Rabbi Ari Hart was one of the rabbis present at the service. He wrote about the experience in a Facebook post, sharing that he spoke with the Imam of the mosque where the funeral was held, as well as Al-Fayoume’s father.
“We witnessed the pain. We expressed our shock and condemnation of the attack. We wept,” Rabbi Hart writes.
Also in his post, Rabbi Hart shared: “The Jerusalem Talmud teaches that the Jewish people are obligated to comfort the mourners of our people and of all people because of the darchei shalom — the paths of peace.”
“The murder of a six year old because of his faith and identity is not complicated. It is a heinous crime. And that’s why we went today.”
Rabbi Hart has a reputation for other acts of solidarity among his community. Three years ago, he started a community program called “Solu,” stemming from a word from the Haftorah meaning to make a path.
Solu aims to use an interfaith approach to do more good during a three-week period of activism and programming every year.
The first Solu program formed alongside African-American Christians to host a book drive and build furniture for families in need.
Rabbi Hart’s second Solu program connected the synagogue’s community to The Rohingya, a Muslim minority group from Burma. Rabbi Hart helped organize English language and citizenship classes, daycare, a youth club, a dinner of traditional foods, and more.
Outside of Solu, Rabbi Hart has partnered with communities combating gun violence, led anti-hate vigils, and advocated for women, LGBTQ+ and disabled members of his community.
“We have these ideals that we’re trying to manifest in the world,” Rabbi Hart told nonprofit news outlet The Forward.
“Judaism is not just something relegated to prayer halls, but something that needs to be in the streets. For people with deep Torah values and a desire to make the world a better place beyond communal boundaries, we create a path and invite them to walk it with us.”
Arab-Jewish solidarity has inspired a sense of hope in other parts of the world, as well.
On October 12, Muslim women led an interfaith vigil for victims of Hamas’ attacks in Israel outside of the White House. Leaders of the American Muslim & Multifaith Women’s Empowerment Council gathered with other diverse faith groups to mourn and mobilize against hate.
“We cannot let extremists hijack defame the word of God in the name of hate and atrocity, Anila Ali, AMWEC’s President, told Forbes.
In Israel, multifaith organizers have also been working together to help protect people of all backgrounds after the October 7 attacks.
In Jaffa, a city south of Tel Aviv, activists in WhatsApp groups developed a joint Arab-Jewish civil guard (unarmed) that alerts authorities if violence breaks out. The groups now include over 1,000 people, according to The Guardian.
Volunteers have also teamed up to search for missing Israelis, cooked meals for families who have been displaced, and more.
Abed, a team member with nonprofit Standing Together, told The Guardian: “I hope the solidarity we have built between different communities can endure against such a polarizing moment.”
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There’s an interesting paragraph in this article where a French former ambassador points out the truth about the hospital attack no longer matters, as too many people have decided it was Israel:
Now, why would so many conclude this so quickly? I think the answer lies in Israel cultivating it’s image and reputation as a hard bastard. They think doing so deters attack but it also enables the worst to be thought quickly because they cultivated that reputation and backed it up.
Has it helped them? I don’t think it has. Nor has their continued belief that the best answer to asymmetric warfare is asymmetric warfare. They keep killing and creating new enemies.
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https://www.theonion.com/israel-military-reports-it-was-you-the-reader-who-ble-1850939156
Bullshit fake news.
Everybody knows the butler did it.
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Sure Jack because it’s high noon shoot-outs over there.
Has Biden fired his entire diplomatic and press teams? Because it sure looks like it.
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Jesus, what a time to be fucking flippant, Joe.
To be honest, I don’t really care about the whole hospital thing. Maybe it was one side, maybe it was the other; in either case I expect they didn’t actually intentionally target a hospital. What this does show is that the civilians in gaza are stuck in a horrible situation with a rising death toll, and the most innocent and vulnerable people will bear the brunt of it. Does it really matter if Israel bombed a hospital if they are responsible for all hospitals in Gaza running out of fuel and other resources, which will probably lead to hundreds if not thousands of dead patients? That’s something we know Israel is doing right now.
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https://www.theonion.com/israel-military-reports-it-was-you-the-reader-who-ble-1850939156
report: News Unable to Confirm News
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The quotes at the end of this article are quite eye-opening:
On Tuesday, the Palestinian politician MK Aida Touma-Sliman said in the Knesset that “no child, neither Jew nor Palestinian, is guilty and that no child should be a victim of this blood cycle”.
In response MK Merav Ben-Ari, a member of the centrist Yesh Atid party, said: “The children in Gaza brought it upon themselves.”
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God could incarnate on the floor of the Knesset, tell them to stop and get told to fuck off.
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God could incarnate on the floor of the Knesset, tell them to stop and get told to fuck off.
The whole area could be an uninhabitable radioactive wasteland for the next 10,000 years and the various groups will still fight over it.
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Ukraine and the Middle East.
What, are we playing a real life game of Risk?
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Australia is busy pissing off the aborigines.
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World Central Kitchen helps to feed 30K people displaced in Israel-Hamas War
WASHINGTON — As tension continues to rise in the Middle East with the war between Israel and Hamas, a D.C.-based nonprofit is doing what it can to help the people impacted.
D.C. Chef José Andrés and his World Central Kitchen announced on Tuesday afternoon that they are helping people during this tragedy with food. In a social media post, the organization said Palestinian families are fleeing from Gaza City to shelters in Khan Yunis which is where they are able to help through their local partner Anera.
Anera, formerly American Near East Refugee Aid, provides humanitarian assistance and sustainable development to increase the well-being of refugees, as well as vulnerable communities in Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan. Together they have been able to distribute thousands of meals daily to people who are displaced.
At the time of the social media post, which was at 4:40 p.m., they said they were able to help provide 30,000 nourishing plates of food within the last 24 hours.
“Proud of the work World Central Kitchen is doing helping people in Israel and Gaza, Jewish and Palestinian… building #LongerTables,” Andrés said in a tweet. He then stated that “in the worst moments usually the best of humanity shows up.”
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Who are you talking to here Arjan? Not the rest of the open sewer that is the Internet.
Are you really trying to claim that on 7 Oct we were all breaking open the bloodwine in celebration? I know I wasn’t, doubt anyone else was.
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I had asked about the media outside the States over the Israel Hamas situation. whether it was being portrayed as this good guys v. bad guys.
There is more info out there on how Palestinians have been treated and what they have gone through for some time. There have been demonstration and incidents on US college campuses. In NYC, some protests and counter-protests facing off at the campuses
NYU and Columbia.Tensions are running high
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Tensions are running high
Very much so. For obvious reasons, German politicians and the general public discourse is not very critical of Israel, but there are of course many Germans with Arab or even Palestinian roots, and there have been public demonstrations of support for Palestine – some of which have then taken an anti-semitic turn. Which in turn has lead to the situation that right-leaning politicians are now using the prejudice that all Arabs are anti-semitic for their anti-immigration stance, which is of course beyond cynical given that these politicians themselves and their supporters are prone to anti-semitism and especially so if you consider that most Jewish people in Germany are relatively recent immigrants. It’s all pretty fucked up.
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That’s what feels quite different this time around. Previously Israel’s line was far less questioned, but now? From all directions, including by many Jews, who are opposed to the indiscriminate actions by Israel.
I don’t know, the media still seems pretty much in lock-step with Israeli apologists. You’ve got things like this weekend’s pro-Palestinian rally in London, where about half a million people peacefully participated calling for a ceasefire and Sky News’ take was to interview the head of the Met and, essentially, ask why they don’t just arrest all these people for extremism.
And then there’s useful idiots like Rachel Riley who was on Newsnight recently being interviewed about it all – I’m not sure why, her qualifications on the subject extend to being Jewish (despite “not looking like a typical Jew” – her words, not mine) and on TV a lot, as far as I can tell – repeating the discredited lies of the absolute worst of Hamas’ actions in the attack on Isreal (literally cutting babies out of pregnant women to decapitate them, which is just recycled anti-German propaganda from WWI). I honestly don’t know if she’s genuinely that thick and gullible or if she does it because she knows any attempt to pushback against it is an opportunity to distract from the real issue and smear people as anti-Semitic for their trouble.
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Well, that’s depressing to hear.
I’m pretty much sticking to scanning headlines and articles, no TV. Been a pretty good rule for the last 15 years.
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Saw a clip on the news where a rabbi said “the average Israeli cannot distinguish between Palestinian Terrorists and Terrorized Palestinians”
Was a reference to whats going on in the West Bank where Israeli settlers are radicalized and attacking others.
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Yeah, and apparently one of the things that Israelis have come to realise is that one of the reasons why the attacks by Hamas were so successful was that the far-right radical part of the Israeli government got Netanyahu to have most of the military concentrated on the West Bank to protect those settlers. Maybe there is a hope of a political reckoning there after all.
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As has been suggested, for your own wellbeing, get off of social media Arjan.
My versions of it? I do such low use that the algorithms don’t have much to work with. But even with those protections, the bad stuff is creeping in, on both Threads and Twitter. It’s so easy to find chaos, mayhem and horror.
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The level of cynicism and cruelty to put this kind of misinformation out there
You’ve repeated misinformation more than once in this very thread.
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Yeah, and apparently one of the things that Israelis have come to realise is that one of the reasons why the attacks by Hamas were so successful was that the far-right radical part of the Israeli government got Netanyahu to have most of the military concentrated on the West Bank to protect those settlers. Maybe there is a hope of a political reckoning there after all.
I wish they’d also realise that the Israeli gvmt is also a culprit in Hamas current existence… let’s not forget they funded and helped Hamas in the past as a political power play against the PLO, you know, same shit that’s happened with about pretty much every other “terrorist” group in the middle east (and a similat thing with militias all over south america too)… Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Mullahs in Iran, Al Qaeda, Isis, etc, etc, etc… that whole brilliant destabilization strategy has really been biting everyone in the ass, ain’t it?
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As has been suggested, for your own wellbeing, get off of social media Arjan.
My versions of it? I do such low use that the algorithms don’t have much to work with. But even with those protections, the bad stuff is creeping in, on both Threads and Twitter. It’s so easy to find chaos, mayhem and horror.
Arjan, set up an Instagram account (if you don’t already have one) and follow me at @xdemon. I will hook you with cute and silly animal and funny meme accounts to follow. I can help you create a fun and pleasant online oasis. (Everyone is welcome to follow!)
TwitterX is a horrible place right now, probably the worst it’s been in a while. I only went there for a few accounts but since I got a new phone last week, I haven’t been able to log in. I took that as a sign to delete the app from my phone, which I did.
Here is the most basic lesson of the internet: If you want to find good, you will. If you want to find bad, you will. Your intentions and desires drive what you encounter on the web. The algorithms only give you what you give it.
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As has been suggested, for your own wellbeing, get off of social media Arjan.
My versions of it? I do such low use that the algorithms don’t have much to work with. But even with those protections, the bad stuff is creeping in, on both Threads and Twitter. It’s so easy to find chaos, mayhem and horror.
Still, I think it’s important to have some idea of the opinions out there held by this kind of scum. Twitter is the place where enemies reveal themselves. (And worse places I guess, like 4chan, or telegram, or tor)
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I think it’s important to have some idea of the opinions out there held by this kind of scum.
Is it though? You already think they’re scum, what does it matter what their opinions are?
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As has been suggested, for your own wellbeing, get off of social media Arjan.
My versions of it? I do such low use that the algorithms don’t have much to work with. But even with those protections, the bad stuff is creeping in, on both Threads and Twitter. It’s so easy to find chaos, mayhem and horror.
Still, I think it’s important to have some idea of the opinions out there held by this kind of scum. Twitter is the place where enemies reveal themselves. (And worse places I guess, like 4chan, or telegram, or tor)
All you do is wallow in fearmongering. Right now it’s anti-muslim bullshit. When this dies down you’ll go back to spreading anti-semitic conspiracies on here. And it’s not like you’re actually going to take anyone’s advice on this.
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As has been suggested, for your own wellbeing, get off of social media Arjan.
My versions of it? I do such low use that the algorithms don’t have much to work with. But even with those protections, the bad stuff is creeping in, on both Threads and Twitter. It’s so easy to find chaos, mayhem and horror.
Still, I think it’s important to have some idea of the opinions out there held by this kind of scum. Twitter is the place where enemies reveal themselves. (And worse places I guess, like 4chan, or telegram, or tor)
Bollocks, wrong button.
In a pre-Internet, pre-social media age, it was the case that ignorance wasn’t bliss.
That’s still true, but where there is a constant tsunami of information, the bigger priority is being aware of your exposure to it and its impact on you.
And all I’m seeing is a bad impact on someone who’d be better off without it. I’m not going to affect the goddamn slaughter in the Middle East, but I’m fool optimist enough to think that maybe I can help you.
Maybe I was wrong on that.
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The head of the New York branch of the UN Human Rights Commission has resigned over their inaction in the face of ongoing genocide of Palestinians.
The full letter can be read here:
Resignation letter from the Director of New York Office of the UN High Commissioner of Human Rights
But hey, some kid in their bedroom said something anti-semitic so it all balances out.
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The Jerusalem Post has published an op-ed where they propose that Jewish people who are protesting Israel’s actions shouldn’t be counted as Jewish any more. That doesn’t sound fascist at all.
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Netanyahu has no interest in governing Gaza. That’s some real Centauri, full Lord Refa stuff – no interest in governing it, just flattening it.
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ethnic cleansing
I always preferred the term “racist murder”.
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Caught a few minutes of the news, might be OK, can’t be that bad, right? Wrong. So very wrong.
Israel is well on its way to becoming a true pariah state alongside Russia and North Korea. With so many deaths and such widespread destruction, does anyone believe anything from the IDF?
A terrorist attack kills 1,400 people. That’s horrible yes, but how many of those people would want over 10,000 other people to die for their sake? I don’t think most would.
Nor is any PR firm going to ever be able to spin hitting a hospital as a positive. It can’t be done. Even if you had 100% proof there were bad people inside, the collateral damage is too high. Cutting power to a hospital? Also stupidly vicious and short-sighted.
Yeah, this is a despair post.
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I’m not going to try and defend Hamas’ actions. They are clearly reprehensible, but they are also the actions of a people who are cornered and desperate. You cannot take their actions in isolation, you have to account for why they act.
I wholeheartedly agree, yet I don’t hear any talk of this. Many countries may insert a comment about a cease-fire in-between comments about support for Israel and their right to defend themselves.
If you don’t get to the heart of the problem and the why, this is only going to get worse long term.And if the U.S. is going to make a big public show of support with an aircraft carrier, maybe they could also publicly tell Israel to knock it the fuck off and make sure it’s known they don’t support street gang mentality. Is Israel’s bloodlust looks like “you put one of mine in the hospital and I put two of yours in the morgue”.
War crimes have been committed, and every action needs to be held accountable.And while I’m talking about it, Biden is an idiot. This is not good for him and could/will drag him down one year from now.
Trump winning next year is looking like a real possibility. I typed that and believe it.
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‘1 in the hospital, 2 in the morgue’, it is way, way past that.
The current – but will increase – ratio is 1 Israeli life to 7-8 Palestinian lives.
(1,400 × 7 or 8 gets us to 9,800 and 11,200 respectively. )
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Unfun fact: The Israelis have killed around 60 of the hostages already due to their policy of indiscriminate bombing. Their leaders don’t give a shit about civilians in the slightest so long as they can continue to perpetrate their genocide.
There has been so much of a revealing on social media on the treatment of Palestinians. So many protest groups and counter protest groups facing off, death threats, fights, and walkouts on college campuses.
One thing: We all know from history about the inhumane treatment of the Jews in the past. But from these reports, for them to do things to others…
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That is at the heart of it. Why would this group of people, with the collective memory of persecution, oppression and being killed on a mass scale, then inflict what was done to them to another group? And keep doing so for decades?
I think, due to the history of the group, there is reluctance to apply terms that would be applied in the majority of other situations. Terms like racism, discrimination, apartheid, which tend to be resisted by those they are being applied to.
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Eh, Israelis aren’t worse or better than other people. The US did war crimes, France did, the Netherlands did, Zimbabwe did, Cambodia did, Australia did, Japan did, everyone does. Having suffered a tragedy in the past as a people doesn’t somehow make people more noble.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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Mayor Adams… fellow… You’re in trouble…
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Apple to cease advertising on X.
How much more bad stuff does a CEO have to do to run a $40bn company into the ground? We are going to find out.
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IBM suspended advertising as well.
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Sometimes you get messages like this after a riot, and sometimes they’re called lunatic hooligans….hmmm I wonder what the difference is?
Also you got to laugh at them saying the perp was a real Irishman. A real Irishman wth a name like Ahmed or Abdullah.
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The riot last night was the Irish far-right monopolising on a tragic situation to push a hateful agenda and be violent. You pushing your islamophobia is the exact same thing, you fucking ghoul.
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This guy thinks rioters are worse than someone stabbing toddlers.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar says to the far-right protesters who rioted in Dublin last night 'ask everyone you know what they fear most on our streets. They're afraid of you. Afraid of your violence and your hate and how you blame others for your problems'.https://t.co/jSqOhnwgMh pic.twitter.com/5WxxSoT5Rw
— Sky News (@SkyNews) November 24, 2023
You don’t give one single damn about the victims of that stabbing, you just hate muslims – and you don’t even know if the attacker was a muslim. And if you post one more piece of shit like this you are done.
I am sick to death of your bigotry and your bullshit and it ends now.
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And all this bad stuff went down on Lorcan’s home turf. It always hits differently when it’s places you know, that was certainly so for me with the London Bridge attacks a few years back.
Varadkar’s probably not perfect, he is a politician, but he’s also the guy who rocked up to the White House, a few years back, to homophobic Vice-President Mike Pence, with his partner, and did not give a crap. He says the rioters brought shame on themselves and Dublin, he’s right, they did, there’s no two sides rubbish to this.
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And all this bad stuff went down on Lorcan’s home turf.
I was literally on the road where the violence kicked off an hour or two before it started. There was already a crowd there and some fucker yelled out “Bring back Hitler, right lads?” as I walked by.
Varadkar’s probably not perfect, he is a politician, but he’s also the guy who rocked up to the White House, a few years back, to homophobic Vice-President Mike Pence, with his partner, and did not give a crap. He says the rioters brought shame on themselves and Dublin, he’s right, they did, there’s no two sides rubbish to this.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I fucking hate Leo Varadkar – Fine Gael are neoliberals economically and conservative socially and will only enact progressive legislation when it’s clear it won’t cost them votes – like we had to continue to protest to get abortion legislation passed after Repeal and even then they watered down what we got from what was recommended by the Citizen’s Assembly. Ironically their party has connections to 30’s fascism to boot.
EDIT to add: Oh, and the government response is to loosen regulations on the use of CCTV as evidence, to demonise the working class, to hassle kids in the city today, and to borrow water cannons from the PSNI.
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And all this bad stuff went down on Lorcan’s home turf.
I was literally on the road where the violence kicked off an hour or two before it started. There was already a crowd there and some fucker yelled out “Bring back Hitler, right lads?” as I walked by.
Varadkar’s probably not perfect, he is a politician, but he’s also the guy who rocked up to the White House, a few years back, to homophobic Vice-President Mike Pence, with his partner, and did not give a crap. He says the rioters brought shame on themselves and Dublin, he’s right, they did, there’s no two sides rubbish to this.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I fucking hate Leo Varadkar – Fine Gael are neoliberals economically and conservative socially and will only enact progressive legislation when it’s clear it won’t cost them votes – like we had to continue to protest to get abortion legislation passed after Repeal and even then they watered down what we got from what was recommended by the Citizen’s Assembly. Ironically their party has connections to 30’s fascism to boot.
EDIT to add: Oh, and the government response is to loosen regulations on the use of CCTV as evidence, to demonise the working class, to hassle kids in the city today, and to borrow water cannons from the PSNI.
Well, shit, that does suck.
Hadn’t realised how literally close to it all you were.
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I was out visiting my mother-in-law in hospital and the bus back into town had to stop a fair bit out for safety. Thankfully it was only about a 20 minute walk from my home because I live on the edge of the city centre, and it was all quiet on my walk.
But my parents were out for the night on the other side of the city, and when they got to the bus stop after the show they were at they discovered the buses had been cancelled so continued to walk towards the city centre, figured out what was happening when they saw a line of the riot squad on O’Connell Bridge. They tried to walk along the river and got diverted by some very shouty cops in riot gear – like a pair of middle-class people in their 70s are a threat!
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Honestly people have a right to protest because they’re sick of crime. But when the protest turns into looting, never mind shouting “all foreigners out”, I don’t condone that, that’s wrong.
They didn’t protest because they’re sick of crime, they harassed the police officers trying to collect evidence at a crime scene and then started a riot. There was no protest
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Another stabbening:
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231203-attacker-stabs-german-tourist-to-death-in-paris
Funny how you didn’t mention the other stabbings in Ireland last week where Irish people stabbed Irish people at a funeral.
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Another stabbening:
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231203-attacker-stabs-german-tourist-to-death-in-paris
Funny how you didn’t mention the other stabbings in Ireland last week where Irish people stabbed Irish people at a funeral.
Damn, is this story even worth bringing up then, as the victims were Palestinian?
1 of the 3 Palestinian students shot in Vermont is paralyzed from the shooting, his mother says
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Heh this is a funny headline:
Ron deSantis Condemnation of Satan Backfires
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And again
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/georgia-election-workers-giuliani/index.html
And an order by the judge to start paying 148M now:
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Well, you know, every person who complainst about climate change but owns a car is a hypocrite to some extent (I count among those hypocrites).
The point being, individual behaviour and whether you’re a hypocrite or not doesn’t really matter. Only policy can make changes to the things that are causing climate change. And this being a capitalist society, the way we usually try to discourage behaviour is by making it expensive. I think we’ve talked about this before, and I agree that that just means that poor people are being disenfranchised more. But I think you do approve of a free market economy? Because the alternative would be alloting a certain amount of flights to each person regardless of how much they are able to pay for it, but that wouldn’t work in a free market economy.
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