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Good for him; they’re his songs, why shouldn’t he make as much money from them as he can while he’s still alive. The man is 79 and has had some health scares; this way he can decide what to do with his fortune while he has the time.
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Today is the 50th anniversary of Donny Hathaway’s “This Christmas.”
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Here’s my Top 10 (most played) of 2020 as of now, according to Spotify.
1 Slentbjenn by Hoven Droven
2 Stuck in the Middle With You by Stealers Wheel
3 Banging in the Nails by The Tiger Lillies
4 I will survive by Gloria Gaynor
5 Common People by Shatners Bassoon
6 Yours To Keep by Teddybears STHLM
7 Friday Im in Love by The Cure
8 Get Together by The Youngbloods
9 Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf
10 For your love by The Yardbirds1 user thanked author for this post.
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7 Friday Im in Love by The Cure
I can never listen to that song now. Not because it’s bad but being a student in the UK in the early 90s they never stopped playing it everywhere as the ultimate poppy/indie anthem.
It turned from fun song to earworm and then water torture. 😂
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This one is a few years old, but it’s been playing in our house a lot the last few weeks. It’s a remedy to this bleak year, a purely positive, optimistic, upbeat song. Its title translates as Hope Machine. Can’t get enough of it, at the moment.
The square you can see in the clip is the Ebertplatz in Köln (this is a local band), which one of the ugliest places in the city. Great choice to do something so positive there.
Lyrics translation:
Remember love
I write
My felt-tip squeaks like a tropical bird
Can you hear me?Yes, I hear you and I swear
I’ll never fall asleep again
I feel powerless, restless
I’m turning on the hope machineOh yeah
Let the hope machine run
The hope machine
Let the hope machine runIf love is first on your list
Let the second place be to stand up
Thirdly, everybody is responsible
Even those who don’t believe in anythingLike the wind behind the cinema
tips over a piano, so it should whistle
(Even more elegant than a question mark)Write one line a day
for the instructin of the hope automaton
Oh yeah
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I haven’t really been in this thread since we became The Carrier but I’ve just written up my end of year lists and thought I’d pimp them out a bit.
Dance, goth, indie, prog, metal, there’s something for everyone in here.
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Very diverse collection of songs there; I like the clips I’ve sampled. I’ll have to devote some time later this week to listen to them properly.
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Proof that 2020 is a screwed-up year: two of my favorite albums of the year are by Taylor Swift, whose work I’ve previously never listened to (except for two songs on the first Hunger Games soundtrack produced by T-Bone Burnett).
The difference, of course, is the involvement of Aaron Dessner (The National) and Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) on both albums.
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In 1972 Ritchie Blackmore fell ill and couldn’t complete Deep Purple’s North American tour. The band drafted in Randy California to replace him at short notice. There was no solid documentary evidence of this and to this day whether it happened at all is hotly debated.
Yesterday, some guy admitted to the world that he had the show taped. The words “holy grail” don’t even come close.
The sound quality is terrible, but that doesn’t matter. This is for Miqque. He’d have loved it:
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4 I will survive by Gloria Gaynor
The anthem for 2020
Funny you should say that.
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Finished my albums, ep’s and podcast of the year list.
Albums, EP’s and Podcast of the year 2020
Seriously, I’ve been writing this fucking thing for ages.
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My favourite christmas song. For all of you, but for @Christian especially.
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These are the only Christmas songs that I like:
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Funny you should say that.
F%^&* you Anders and your face is funny
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As we approach the end of 2020, I’m in an early-21st-century-alternative mood:
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The KLF’s songs are finally available to stream
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55507226
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I’m impressed on this one by the job the sound engineer did and also Rita Ora’s right nipple in her tight top.
I’m quite old so don’t know who all these people are but the singing is generally very good, I especially like Rag’n’Bone Man’s voice. He’s a great singer.
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Dua Lipa?
I don’t understand the question and google translate doesn’t help.
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I’m quite old so don’t know who all these people are
Because I am hip and down wiv the kidz I recognsed Dave Ghohl and I think Taylor Hawkins and, uh, and,
Well, hey, I recognised Grohl and Hawkins!
I thought the singing was very good from all of them (whoever they are). It seems to me that a lot of modern pop singers actually have good voices, it’s just generally impossible to tell under all the studio manipulation and one-note songs that seem specifically designed to hide their talent. I assume these performances were all “live in their bedrooms”, so we’re getting to hear what they really sound like.
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I recognised Grohl and Hawkins!
Dave Grohl? on a song by the Foo Fighters? WHOA! :mind blown:
Dua Lipa
I remember when Fifa asked her to sing IDGAF at the Champions league Final a few years go. interesting song choice for such a big appearance and that acronym means exactly what you think.
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that acronym means exactly what you think
“I dig grass and ferns”?
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Brexit touring row: UK proposals not fit for purpose, says EU
UK and EU in blame game which may leave British musicians forced to pay for expensive and laborious country-specific visas and equipment carnets when touring the continent
I know @DavidM has been keeping an eye on this for a while. Sounds like a bit of a mess.
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The EU has a standard clause in literally all their treaties allowing special visa exemptions to touring musicians. They offered this to the UK as part of our trade agreement, and the UK turned it down. The UK government is naturally blaming the EU, but the facts appear to be that the offer was on the table and we explicitly turned it down. And honestly, that’s not a surprise. Because if we agreed to it, it would have to work both ways, which would give freedom of movement to EU musicians wanting to enter the UK, and that’s obviously unthinkable to Brexiteers.
So another nail in the coffin of UK musicians. EU musicians won’t feel the hit so much, because they will still have the whole rest of the EU to tour. But it means I will probably never again see a European band play in this country, which makes me very sad. (Knowing that all of my favourite UK bands are in a financial black hole with no light at the end of the tunnel makes me more sad.)
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After listening to the interview with Gwenno Saunders the other day I had an enjoyable Youtube journey.
Firstly with her on Pull Shapes (with peroxide hair) from the Pipettes that was the featured song in the first issues of Phonogram 2.
Then much later with her singing in Cornish.
Very different but I like them both.
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So, Lady Gaga’s singing the National Anthem at the inauguration.
I wonder if we will be able to hear her over all the gunfire.
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This is the best Tik Tok shit I’ve ever seen. Apparently someone declared 2021 the year of the Sea Shanty and now this is where we’re at:
so this got stuck in my head, like, just a massive earworm that couldn't be erased. only solution was to try and make my own compilation. pic.twitter.com/t9O113FOFO
— Echo Alfa Bravo (@RedGreenBlueBro) January 13, 2021
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Sounds like a bit of a mess.
Brexit causing problems?!?! That can’t be right. You must be mistaken.
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So, Lady Gaga’s singing the National Anthem at the inauguration.
I wonder if we will be able to hear her over all the gunfire.
If she stops shooting long enough, it may not be an issue. It will also depend on what kind of gun she brings.
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I discovered this in November, and it’s now one of my favorite songs:
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Well, it was the ’60s.
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Not sure who said it originally, but: “Always be good to your support band, you might see them again on your way down.”
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I discovered this in November, and it’s now one of my favorite songs:
Ronnie James Dio is so over the top… A perfect fit for heavy metal.
The Manga/Anime JJBA has characters and psychic abilities named after Music Artists or Songs or Albums, and a primary villain is named after Dio, so that got me into RJD. The arc the villain was defeated in was structured after Rainbow’s Stargazer.
Talking of Rainbow:
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Talking of Dio and comics, I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but there’s a Dio graphic novel:
Dio – Holy Diver Graphic Novel – Z2 Comics
which supposedly will “explain” the meaning of the song Holy Diver.
Sure to appeal to everybody who likes both Dio and comics?
(I love Dio, and obviously comics, and I have no interest in it at all. But I’m sure some will.)
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Talking of Dio and comics, I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but there’s a Dio graphic novel:
Dio – Holy Diver Graphic Novel – Z2 Comics
which supposedly will “explain” the meaning of the song Holy Diver.
Sure to appeal to everybody who likes both Dio and comics?
(I love Dio, and obviously comics, and I have no interest in it at all. But I’m sure some will.)
I already know the meaning of Holy Diver. A Bisexual Vampire is in a coffin underwater for a century, and when he is freed, he wants to reset the universe to attain heaven, and in trying to do so, he turns a priest gay, and when he is killed, the priest takes the last surviving part of his body and treats it like a saint’s relic.
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I was told by colleagues to get into new music as Purple Rain is 37 years old and Nirvana’s Nevermind is 30. So I did starting with the ladies. Not the pop tarts like Ariana Grande or Camila Cabello, but some who have some substance and meaning to their music. So far it has been Miley, her sister Noah, and Halsey. Not bad, pretty good tunes.
I posted before about some acts who are more entertainers than real singers like I would say, Britney, Madonna, Paula… I don’t know if Janet can really sing. Feel free to add to the list. Beyonce can, Christina, Mariah, and Adele definitely can. Billie Eilish seems to only whisper but I digress…
A few words about the old American Idol show. It was funny to see some horrible auditions and Simon Cowell being snippy, but at the very least, you had to sing then and there with no Audiotune or other studio tricks. It was just the voice. That part I liked.
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Not the pop tarts like Ariana Grande
Be more polite about Ariana.
She’s someone I admire hugely, after the 9-11 attacks we had ‘tough guy’ actors like Bruce Willis declare they were scared to travel for a year. When her own gig was bombed by a terrorist she returned 2 weeks later to perform a benefit for free.
She has courage and substance of character they can only wish for.
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I already know the meaning of Holy Diver. A Bisexual Vampire is in a coffin underwater for a century, and when he is freed, he wants to reset the universe to attain heaven, and in trying to do so, he turns a priest gay, and when he is killed, the priest takes the last surviving part of his body and treats it like a saint’s relic.
Sounds plausible
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What songs from her do you like?
I said I admire her more than the music, I do think Bang Bang is a very good pop song though.
I’m 47 though, I’m not really target audience for her work, I’ll chance upon it maybe sometimes but with recent stuff I’m much more into grime. I’m not really target audience for that either to be honest but my most listened to artists of the last year are Stormzy and Dave.
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I’m not sure who my most listened to artist of the last year was but it may have been Rick Wakeman, as he’s been prolifically releasing bootleg recordings as well as his new album. In second place it’s possibly Belle Chen, who has been releasing new music literally every week during lockdown. Currently listening to Fergus McCreadie live from Glasgow. I’m obviously going through a pianist phase
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Seems quite sexist to be honest Al. Firstly whether it’s your cup of tea or not she’s clearly a very good singer. Secondly do you apply the same to Jim Morrison, a clearly very good looking guy who barely wore a shirt when performing his bad 6th form poetry?
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Seems quite sexist to be honest Al. Firstly whether it’s your cup of tea or not she’s clearly a very good singer. Secondly do you apply the same to Jim Morrison, a clearly very good looking guy who barely wore a shirt when performing his bad 6th form poetry?
Hey! Jim Morrison had talent… yeah maybe his writing was a bit questionable, but the dude could sing like a mofo… u_u
But yeah I could call crap like boy bands “pop tarts” except I wouldn’t use that term ’cause it’s too corny and instead call them… well… crap. Crap biscuits… there you go Al, a gender inclusive term =P
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I already know the meaning of Holy Diver. A Bisexual Vampire is in a coffin underwater for a century, and when he is freed, he wants to reset the universe to attain heaven, and in trying to do so, he turns a priest gay, and when he is killed, the priest takes the last surviving part of his body and treats it like a saint’s relic.
Sounds plausible
I know it’s not what RJD meant, because that’s how the author of JJBA incorporated the phrase “Holy Diver” into the story of RJD’s namesake.
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Mozart apparently liked to imitate cats. Here’s the tail as we know it.
https://www.classicfm.com/composers/mozart/miaowed-imitated-cats-when-bored-in-rehearsals/
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Who is a singer and who is just an entertainer?
That phrasing presumes that an “entertainer” is somehow of lesser value than a singer; shouldn’t that be the other way around? A singer only offers one skill, whereas an entertainer may be equally skilled in singing, dancing, acting, etc. Think of Bing Crosby, or Judy Garland, or Elvis Presley, or (as noted above) Justin Timberlake.
To bring up the scandal created by Kanye West a few years back: who has more entertainment value: Beyonce, is is basically a really great singer who surrounds herself with talented people? Or Beck, who writes his own songs (words and music), produces his albums, and plays many of the instruments on those albums?
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To be fair Ian Curtis was replaced by an even worse singer at New Order. There’s a great story of them going on Top of the Pops which was usually mimed and insisting they play live, they then became the first act to drop down the charts after an appearance because Sumner’s vocals were so bad. The worst singer I’ve ever seen live is Ian Brown of the Stone Roses, I love his music but he was complete gash live and had the crowd throwing stuff at him.
I’d rather listen to any of their songs though than Whitney Houston who was a phenomenal vocalist.
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Ha! That reminds me at the time I tried to sing “Blue Monday” at a karaoke thing in a bar and immediately realised I’d made a huge mistake with this song… and still had to keep doing it until the fucking song was over. It’s actually a surprisingly hard song to sing, especially because nothing really happens with the voice.
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Madonna certainly shocked the audience during the last ESC by how badly she was singing. Madonne herself later released her own video version that was doctored with autotune.
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Apparently there was even an autotune effect while she was singing live, but she was too badly out of tune.
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Then it came to my attention that there is more to talent than singing alone and I agree.
Well in the end it’s like the bullshit arguments you hear about actors, for example when people say “well Keanu is not a great actor but he’s good at action movies”… and I’m like… yeah, and physical acting is nothing to scoff at, so people should really start recognizing acting quality as a whole, and not just who can cry better or emote better on screen… Plus, I reckon it must be a lot harder to learn how to do Keanu’s job than learning how to cry in a believable way… So yeah, even though I don’t like their music at all, I’ll always appreciate artists that put on a great show, because that also takes skill and training, and a lot of it.
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Then with the female singers, there is also a matter of performance outfits, clothing and lack thereof to promote themselves
The sexual objectification of female performers is shocking really.
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Then with the female singers, there is also a matter of performance outfits, clothing and lack thereof to promote themselves
The sexual objectification of female performers is shocking really.
That’s Deep Purple, right?
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This objectification talk needs some actual knowledge:
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That’s Deep Purple, right?
Yes; lead singer Ozzy Osbourne on the left and guitarist Mark Knopfler on the right, during Deep Purple’s heyday!
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And of course none of them, including the pop starletts, ain’t got shit on Rammstein…
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