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Steven Bray is our old pal Steve UK with a BIFA nomination!
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Gal Gadot To Play Evil Queen In Disney’s Live-Action ‘Snow White’
https://deadline.com/2021/11/snow-white-gal-gadot-evil-queen-disneys-latest-1234867535/
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Taika Waititi to Direct ‘The Incal’ Film Adaptation
The filmmaker is attached to direct and co-write a feature adaptation of The Incal, the seminal 1970s comic book creation from Alejandro Jodorowsky and the late artist Moebius. Waititi is teaming with his What We Do in the Shadows and Flight of the Conchords collaborator Jemaine Clement, as well as Peter Warren, to pen the script.
No studio or streaming service is yet attached to the project and The Incal movie marks the first time publisher Humanoids has delved into the world of film.
Hmm. That’s a red flag there.
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Credit to Hollywood reporter for crediting Moebius. A lot of angry comics artists on Twitter today that most pieces left him out.
Ironic really because for me the Incal story is not great, it very much feels like a lot of random encounters being made up as they go along but the artwork is sublime.
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Gal Gadot To Play Evil Queen In Disney’s Live-Action ‘Snow White’
https://deadline.com/2021/11/snow-white-gal-gadot-evil-queen-disneys-latest-1234867535/
Well that’s not going to work at all. I mean, when she says “Who is the fairest of them all?” the mirror is going to answer “You are”, and the movie ends.
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Waititi is teaming with his What We Do in the Shadows and Flight of the Conchords collaborator Jemaine Clement,
This is the first time I’ve heard that Waititi was involved in Flight of the Conchords. You learn something new every day
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Well, the article also points out that the Eternals had the second best opening for a Hollywood movie this year and opened ahead of Black Widow and Shang-Chi, so it hardly appears to be a disaster. Anyway, trying to make the Eternals a success was always going to be difficult. Still, even if it tanks from here on out there’s only five weeks until Spider-Man is released and no reason to doubt there won’t be a positive buzz about that one.
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I think box office/industry analysts still really don’t know what to expect from any movies these days. When will the general public actually be comfortable returning to movie theaters? Will another covid surge come along and derail things? Has the pandemic simply altered the way people want to consume their entertainment?
I’m sure the hope is that by next summer people will be ready to get back into movie theaters, but the simple fact is things may never get back to those pre-pandemic day for the movie industry. No one really knows. So it’s hard to know what under performing even means right now.
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Sort of. Venom 2 is a sequel to an established hit movie with a well-known character. Shang-Chi less so but one would imagine a martial arts action movie to be an easier sell than whatever the Eternals are. Plus, the roll-out of all of these movies has been impacted by various restrictions and covid warnings in various markets. There isn’t really the same level playing field as the pre-covid years.
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Yeah, exactly. We really don’t know was the atmosphere is going to be come Summer 2022. Could be that more people (especially kids and teens) are vaccinated and people are more comfortable going to the movies. Or it could be another covid surge hits or that people would just rather wait a couple of months for a lot of these movies to drop on Disney+. Really hard to say right now what kind of box office expectations to set, but certainly this winter and the coming summer should give us good data in order to start speculating on box office moving forward.
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That Sing 2 trailer looks good if you liked the first one until you realize the old lion is Bono. It really turns me off that he is playing Edge’s guitar part. Also, the idea that Bono is a recluse is a huge stretch in my opinion. plus no Seth Macfarland. I like his Sinatra imitation
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Nicolas Cage to Star as Dracula in Universal Monster Movie ‘Renfield’ (Exclusive)
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Tom Holland confirms being cast as Fred Astaire in biopic.
He may be Sonys golden calf at the moment, but that’s still some pretty good casting given his dancer origins.
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This looks incredible.
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This looks cooler and cooler with every trailer.
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Yeah, I think I’m gonna have to go see this in the cinema instead of some kind of boat-related screening.
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This time it looks like they’re building in the idea of the original as being a movie within the reality of this new film – you can see it projected on the wall in some scenes in the trailer.
Can’t wait to see how this all comes together.
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I’ve seen a few people suggest that it’s going to be a repudiation of the whole Red Pill thing, and talk about how revolutionary texts are seen as little more than aesthetic – like there’s a shot of the guy who’s aping Smith lines with his mouth sealing up and he doesn’t look distressed, he’s doing it because it looked cool in the first movie.
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Ehhh… I don’t know about all that… I just hope they do something really interesting with the whole concept, because if not it’ll end up feeling like a shit load of “remember that?” and that’s kinda lame… and the Watchowskis’ track record post-Matrix is shaky at best, so I’m more wary than excited.
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An unsurprisingly misleading title for that poll. The tl;dr is that 41% of movie goers are enjoying superhero movies and will continue to see them in theaters, 23% are enjoying them but get a little tired of the volume of them, 26% just don’t like superhero movies.
The poll isn’t tracking any change in this so far all we know those numbers could be the same as a year ago or better or worse. It’s not speaking or highlighting any actual trends in how audiences feel about superhero movies. At least not from what I can gather from that brief write up.
So to answer the question of will Hollywood care? I’d say…care about what?
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I thought it was wrapped up in the first movie. I should have remembered nothing ever ends
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I thought it was wrapped up in the first movie.
It did and to me that was essentially the problem with Kingsman 2. Millar likes (and is very good at) his elevator pitch concepts and this one was James Bond meets My Fair Lady. The sequel fell into just Bond parody because the journey from council estate chancer to superspy is concluded in the first story.
I liked the comic sequel Rob Williams did but it also had the same flaw that once the character journey was complete it also fell into Bond parody territory, it was just a better executed one than the film version.
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Ugh. Went to see No Way Home in my local cinema. Sitting there for almost two hours before they told us it wasn’t happening, and to go home. Apparently their file with the movie on it is corrupted, and they can’t get it fixed. I’d have thought this would be something you would test before you let people in to see the movie, but nope!
The most annoying part is that pretty much every screening in the city for the next week is already sold out, so those of us who booked for the early opening day screenings are all out of luck.
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That’s bad luck, sorry Paul.
In the old pre-digital days I had a few bad cinema experiences where the film strip melted and we had to walk out of the movie halfway through as they didn’t have another copy to load. But I guess digital isn’t without its flaws either.
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Paul’s story reminds me of going to see ANT-MAN in the theaters years ago, and about a third of the way into the film the screen suddenly went blank.
Plot twist: it was still playing, just reduced to the size of a single pixel in the bottom of the screen.
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Genius.
We can only show you the ring. You’re the one that has to run through it. pic.twitter.com/UeUXWUpUpt
— Sonic the Hedgehog (@SonicMovie) December 22, 2021
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Six Degrees of Keith David: The Character Actor Beats Kevin Bacon at His Own Game
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James Hong turns 93 today. Possibly the most prolific actor in Hollywood history, he has two major movies coming out next month (Turning Red and Everything Everywhere All at Once) and a Walk of Fame star to look forward to later this year. pic.twitter.com/xNORdfM1CY
— Astounding Beyond Belief (@AstoundingBB) February 22, 2022
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So… anyone really looking forward to Avatar 2? Can’t wait?
What is most interesting to me is that it may be the biggest sequel of all time. In the works for over a decade. At least 3 years of production. Biggest director of all time who came to prominence mostly for the two most successful sequels of all time (which were followed by the least successful sequels of all time, too). Disney is building an entire theme park world around it.
And we’re hearing less about it than we were for DUNE or AVENGERS: ENDGAME at around the same time before release. No leaks from the set. Very little promotion.
It’s a surprisingly disciplined production as far as information control, so I think the apparent lack of interest much be intentional.
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I’m more intrigued than excited. I’m expecting the buzz to be pretty huge when we get closer to release and actually start seeing footage. At the end of the day I’m not going to bet against James Cameron. I wish he hadn’t disappeared down this Avatar sinkhole, but he has, so I can only think he’s going to do something special with it.
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I’d completely forgotten it was coming, that’s how excited I am.
I didn’t and still don’t see the appeal of Avatar. It was cleverly made and pretty to look at, but the story and characters were so pedestrian that … well, actually I can’t comment because I can’t really remember a thing about them. That’s how interesting it was.
(Sorry, I don’t usually like to talk down things that other people apparently love, but I genuinely don’t see why this one was/is loved.)
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Sorry, I don’t usually like to talk down things that other people apparently love, but I genuinely don’t see why this one was/is loved.
I’m not even sure that it is. For such a massively successful film it’s not like Avatar fandom is really much of a thing, certainly not with any kind of profile like other major franchises of the moment (Marvel, Star Wars, Harry Potter etc. – even Dune).
It will be interesting to see how the second Avatar goes down, but I could see it failing to get anywhere near the first – which, let’s not forget, got a lot of mileage out of the novelty of its 3D effects at the start of the last 3D fad, which is basically now over.
Having said that, I also agree that I wouldn’t bet against Cameron and I hope that he’s got something very special lined up after all this time.
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Sorry, I don’t usually like to talk down things that other people apparently love, but I genuinely don’t see why this one was/is loved.
I’m not even sure that it is. For such a massively successful film it’s not like Avatar fandom is really much of a thing, certainly not with any kind of profile like other major franchises of the moment (Marvel, Star Wars, Harry Potter etc. – even Dune).
It will be interesting to see how the second Avatar goes down, but I could see it failing to get anywhere near the first – which, let’s not forget, got a lot of mileage out of the novelty of its 3D effects at the start of the last 3D fad, which is basically now over.
Having said that, I also agree that I wouldn’t bet against Cameron and I hope that he’s got something very special lined up after all this time.
The movie came out in December 2009 so it has been a little over 12 years since it was first released. That is almost a generation of movie goers. I could see adults wanting to revisit it for the sake of childhood nostalgia. (“I loved that movie when I was a kid! It will be cool to revisit this universe.”)
I’m sure the CGI will be top-notch and probably (hopefully!) a few steps above what we’ve been getting lately but nowadays, CGI is so commonplace. Just aout every TV show and movie uses it to some extent and you don’t even notice it. A lot of it is quite banal (backgrounds, signage, etc.) but it is still CGI. Animated movies get better and better. It will be interesting to see if it breaks through the noise.
I thought the first movie was great to look at, but the story was very shallow and the characters weren’t very compelling. It felt like i was watching someone play a well-rendered videogame.
One last thing to consider: As it appears that we are coming out of COVID and all the restrictions, this movie could do very well as people will want to go to a theater and see something spectacular as it is now “safe” to do so.
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I don’t think I’ve watched AVATAR after my first viewing. Whereas I’ve watched TERMINATOR, T2, ALIENS, THE ABYSS, and even TITANIC more than once, and enjoyed them each time, I just do not have any desire to revisit the adventures of Jake and Neytiri.
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I may well be proven massively wrong on this but I get the sense that Cameron is long overdue for a failure and that this Avatar obsession is going to be it.
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I don’t think I’ve watched AVATAR after my first viewing. Whereas I’ve watched TERMINATOR, T2, ALIENS, THE ABYSS, and even TITANIC more than once, and enjoyed them each time, I just do not have any desire to revisit the adventures of Jake and Neytiri.
The problem I have with AVATAR is that it didn’t have any strong pay-offs that are memorable. All the other movies have great set-ups that pay off strongly throughout the films so that you distinctly remember those moments. However, AVATAR just seems to meander through the story. In fact, it feels like it starts too early. I can’t think what I would cut, but it seems like it took forever to really get moving.
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it didn’t have any strong pay-offs that are memorable
Toruk Makto? That was an insane payoff for me. Maybe that’s not the kind of payoff you mean though.
It’s interesting to me that I was having a discussion about the (dis-)importance of Avatar with Tom earlier today, and while we were still on the topic I checked in here and saw that Jonny had posted almost verbatim some of our discussion points about it. Synchronicity!
As Tom said to me, it’s fairly evident the movie has lost its momentum and hasn’t really stayed with people the same way other properties, particularly James Cameron properties, has. To exemplify this, he asked med if I’ve seen an Avatar meme, like ever. Interesting metric of memorability, if it’s memeable it’s stayed with people. I think that checks out. Not foolproof, but it’s something.
Then again, I’m very much looking forward to the sequels and I rewatch Avatar fairly regularly. Like, once every other year at least.
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Ohhhhhhhh Alex Garland doing proper horror. Looks great.
(For a second there I was going to also say, this kind of looks like Get Out, but with mysoginy instead of racism, but then I though, no wait, Get Out was Stepford Wives but with racism instead of mysoginy, so this is… well, it’s in the tradition of that kind of movie, I suppose.)
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‘Song of the South’: 12 Things to Know About Disney’s Most Controversial Movie
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Looks like Kermode and Mayo are going indie, releasing their show themselves rather than signing up with a media company. It only has Apple and Spotify links on the webpage but people in the comments have signed up via different pod platforms.
https://www.kermodeandmayo.com/
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Will Smith Resigns From Academy, Will Accept Further Consequences: ‘I Am Heartbroken’
https://www.thewrap.com/will-smith-resigns-academy-oscars-slap/
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Maybe it is for the best. We will see…
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the Academy will turn a blind eye to rapists but not a man who slaps another man on stage.
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the Academy will turn a blind eye to rapists but not a man who slaps another man on stage.
I think that by giving Smith the Oscar minutes later it managed to show that it was happy to turn a blind eye to both.
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the Academy will turn a blind eye to rapists but not a man who slaps another man on stage.
I think that by giving Smith the Oscar minutes later it managed to show that it was happy to turn a blind eye to both.
I suspect they didn’t have the time to re-run the poll without him in the running.
Career prospects is a different thing altogether though. These scandals definitely have more of an impact there. I’m sure that Will Smith will still have a career after all this, but like lots of other scandal-hit figures (like Polanski or Woody Allen) it may end up less healthy than it once was.
They gave Polanski an Oscar like 24 years after he fled the US though.
I do think Smith will be fine, because really this is a storm in a teacup. It’s just interesting to see how this is almost entirely predicated on public reaction rather than any sort of principles
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This is absolutely what they’ll do, it’ll be like that new Nichola Cage movie.
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The victim of assault should definitely make a film with his assaulter🤨.
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Yeah, he’ll be fine. He’s still got the power of the Scientologists behind him.
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I think one thing it reminds me of is Alain De Botton’s case about visual news. How people react far less to reports and numbers than they do to what they can see.
We’re seeing it today in the Ukraine story where it’s no real surprise that Russia killed civilians, they have been bombing pretty indiscriminately for weeks, but video of a street strewn with dead bodies hits to the gut.
So I think we are really overreacting to the Smith thing compared to other worse offences from Oscar winners but it has that visceral effect because everyone saw it, most people will only know the full stories of what Polanski or Weinstein did if they read rather lengthy articles.
It is wrong but I have to confess I listened to a podcast last week about the military coup and in Myanmar last year and had forgotten it had happened (and it isn’t that far away from me) yet I remember the shock I felt when a kid called into a Saturday morning show and asked Matt Bianco why they were ‘so fucking shit’.
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