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Like this story about the Russos wanting to direct FF.

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lorcan_nagle

I really enjoyed the finale.

They did a far superior job of using time travel (and the quantum realm) than Avengers: Endgame. I liked how everyone got a happy ending. In the last few episodes, I really liked the casting of James Paxton as young John Garrett, which his father Bill played. That was a great touch and tribute.

For me, the show stuck the landing.

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Todd wrote:

They did a far superior job of using time travel (and the quantum realm) than Avengers: Endgame.

Well, I mean, that’s not really an accomplishment =P

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I was fully expecting Fitz at the end to be an AI projection or something just to twist the knife one more time, so I was slightly relieved when that didn’t happen.

And I didn’t realise that was Bill Paxton’s son playing Garrett until this episode!  I’d been spending weeks confounded and impressed by his Bill Paxton impression.

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Coming back to New Mutants:

SteveUK wrote:

Disney are prepared to move films to streaming when it makes sense to them.

‘Artemis Fowl’ is going to Disney+ and it cost at least as much as ‘New Mutants’ (and has been hanging around for as long).

So, yes, someone figures this is their best business move.

Dave wrote:

There could be contractual obligations to release it in cinemas too.

SteveUK wrote:

There could, but it’s a Fox movie and Disney owns that studio and everything associated with it.

They’re also putting Hamilton on Disney+ and that was meant to have a cinema release first.

‘Hamilton’ Course Change: Disney Sets July 3 Streaming Release For $75 Million Lin-Manuel Miranda Musical

I just saw Bill Sienkiewicz tweeted this in response to queries about why it’s sticking with a cinema release as opposed to Disney+.

I believe there are pre-Covid-19 legal contactual reasons mandating theatrical release. https://t.co/HjawwfHYTJ

— Bill Sienkiewicz (@sinKEVitch) August 15, 2020

So it seems as though this is indeed a contractual issue that’s forcing the cinema release.

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Performer of the Week: Elizabeth Henstridge

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lorcan_nagle wrote:

impressed by his Bill Paxton impression.

He learned from the best!

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Dave wrote:

Coming back to New Mutants:

SteveUK wrote:

Disney are prepared to move films to streaming when it makes sense to them.

‘Artemis Fowl’ is going to Disney+ and it cost at least as much as ‘New Mutants’ (and has been hanging around for as long).

So, yes, someone figures this is their best business move.

Dave wrote:

There could be contractual obligations to release it in cinemas too.

SteveUK wrote:

There could, but it’s a Fox movie and Disney owns that studio and everything associated with it.

They’re also putting Hamilton on Disney+ and that was meant to have a cinema release first.

‘Hamilton’ Course Change: Disney Sets July 3 Streaming Release For $75 Million Lin-Manuel Miranda Musical

I just saw Bill Sienkiewicz tweeted this in response to queries about why it’s sticking with a cinema release as opposed to Disney+.

I believe there are pre-Covid-19 legal contactual reasons mandating theatrical release. https://t.co/HjawwfHYTJ

— Bill Sienkiewicz (@sinKEVitch) August 15, 2020

So it seems as though this is indeed a contractual issue that’s forcing the cinema release.

I saw this a while back but with Steve more or less vanished from the board the urge for a gentle I told you so moment was diminished.

I am looking forward to this when it comes out.

It wasn’t intended as an I Told You So (I was just speculating before, like everyone else) – just flagging up Bill S’ tweet as the theatrical release question has come up a few times here in conversation, and this seems to settle the reason why.

I did say “gentle”

Your faces are right gentlemen.

 

It’s something that should be considered by the ‘just chuck it on streaming’ advocates. Studios have a relationship with their exhibitors, a partnership that’s sometimes a bit tetchy but generally with the idea they help each other make maximum money.

We’ve seen in the past that they have written agreements on when things can be released for home viewing, the dispute over when Alice In Wonderland could get a UK DVD release being one (they tried to reduce it from 30 days to 20 – eventually the cinemas won the argument and 30 days remains). So the decision may not always be as simple as it appears.

I’d assume too if this is place for New Mutants it definitely is for Tenet.

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The New Mutants: Maisie Williams and Blu Hunt on Moonstar And Wolfsbane’s Relationship

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Olivia Wilde Tapped To Direct Untitled Female-Centered Marvel Movie At Sony

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Todd

A Spider-Woman movie is so much more palatable to me then a Madame Webb movie.

And as much as I like the idea of Silver and Black. I would prefer if it was just a movie called “Black-Cat” with the focus on her as the anti-hero and less focus on Silver Sable as the anti-villain.

So they’re gonna keep on being stubborn and never do a Prowler movie, aren’t they? u_u

Dumb Sony…

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Jon wrote:

So they’re gonna keep on being stubborn and never do a Prowler movie, aren’t they?

Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse prominently featured Mahershala Ali as the Prowler.

Oh, you mean a live-action film? 

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Todd

I know, but he’s a villain in the Miles-verse, he’s not anymore in the 616… still though, he’s already been introduced to a general audience so that should make it easier to market, and I wouldn’t mind if they go with the Miles-verse version either… they can make that work with a redemption story.

Oh and yes, I mean live action.

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Josh Nizzi, who’s worked as a concept designer for Marvel Studios posted these on Instagram recently. For Age of Ultron they briefly explored the idea of the Ultrons smashing themselves together and forming a Mega-Ultron, which may ore may not have been better than what we actually got.

 

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I like how he mentions Frank Miller’s Wolverine and not Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine.

Well it’d be weird if he tried to play Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine.

[Rocket]

Dave wrote:

Well it’d be weird if he tried to play Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine.

(SIGH) ok Brian Singer’s Wolverine, is that better? (SIGH)

just kidding about the exasperation.

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Dave

I was imagining something like this:

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[Steve Sensible]

New Mutants is currently at 23% on Rotten Tomatoes – albeit after only 13 reviews, due to the lack of press-screenings.

New Mutants co-creator Bob McLeod shared his disappointment with the movie:

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Wow. Couldn’t even get the poor guy’s name right.

And yeah, I cringe every time I see Sunspot portrayed as light-skinned. The comics have done that on and off to him since at least the 90s, it’s a shame the movie continues that trend.

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Well it’s a Foxmen movie… what was he expecting? =/

Only Deadpool bothered… and that was probably Ryan Reynolds.

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Will_C wrote:

The comics have done that on and off to him since at least the 90s, it’s a shame the movie continues that trend.

Yup and despite the fact that he’s of mixed parentage his skin colour is very unambiguously raised in the first ever New Mutants GN when he’s introduced.

 

 

 

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Chadwick Boseman dies at 43

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Fuck, fuck, fuck. He’s been looking so thin. I had hoped he was just prepping for a role.

Damn.

What the absolute fuck?! I knew he’d been looking thin but no clue he was sick. How incredibly sad…

[Hank Cannon]

The official family announcement is on Boseman’s Twitter account which I can’t seem to post a link to. (Edit: let’s see if this works)

Tweets by chadwickboseman

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This is heartbreaking. So young and talented. He was my favorite of the MCU leads. He brought such dignity and wisdom to the role of T’Challa. I’m glad his family was with him at the end but I feel so, so sorry for them. At least he has left quite a legacy behind him. I expect to see a lot of kids in Black Panther costumes this Halloween, and that will make me both sad and happy.

The day he died is both Jackie Robinson Day and Jack Kirby’s birthday.

Don’t know if I can see Marvel Studios trying to replace him.

Shame… so young… =(

Also, yeah, I wonder what they’ll do… It’d feel a bit weird if they replaced him any time soon…, but then I don’t think they want to freeze the BP franchise for too long at this point.

Jon wrote:

Shame… so young… =(

Also, yeah, I wonder what they’ll do… It’d feel a bit weird if they replaced him any time soon…, but then I don’t think they want to freeze the BP franchise for too long at this point.

I hope they don’t recast T’Challa. I would rather see another character step into the mantle.

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Todd wrote:

Jon wrote:

Shame… so young… =(

Also, yeah, I wonder what they’ll do… It’d feel a bit weird if they replaced him any time soon…, but then I don’t think they want to freeze the BP franchise for too long at this point.

I hope they don’t recast T’Challa. I would rather see another character step into the mantle.

Yeah, but how? like, killing him off-screen would be crass… obviously… so what do they do? Kind of a pickle.

Now that I think about it, this might be the first situation like this in a long while, if not ever… I guess Ledger, but he was different, cause he was the villain, not the main hero…

Very, very sad. 2020 can fuck right off.

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JRCarter wrote:

Don’t know if I can see Marvel Studios trying to replace him.

I wouldn’t try. Shuri was breakout hit in that film. Give it to her to lead.

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Jon wrote:

I hope they don’t recast T’Challa. I would rather see another character step into the mantle. Yeah, but how? like, killing him off-screen would be crass… obviously… so what do they do? Kind of a pickle.

I think they’re lucky that there’s an in-built mechanism that makes it easy to pass the torch to another cast member, and for me there’s a clear frontrunner from the first movie to become the new king of Wakanda.

 

Wakanda forever: Black Panther fans don’t want anyone but Chadwick Boseman as their king

https://ew.com/movies/chadwick-boseman-black-panther-legacy/

garjones wrote:

I wouldn’t try. Shuri was breakout hit in that film. Give it to her to lead.

Well yeah, she’s the obvious choice… but still, they’ll have to deal with T’challa suddenly not being there… although now that I think about it, the could do a meta thing and just adress it directly with an in-memoriam thing at the start of the movie…

I think they should address it at the start of the next movie, with some sort of funeral for T’Challa. Give everyone a chance to say goodbye to that iconic character. No need to recast. Shuri, Okoye, M’Baku et al can carry things as an ensemble. Pivot it away from Black Panther towards Wakanda instead, or have one of them inherit the title if there’s a decent plan for it. They just need a strong villain. If the rumours are true they could fast track Namor and do a Wakanda/Atlantis War movie.

But, again, fucking sad news.

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[JRCarter]

It might be too early to discuss whether to recast or replace but Chadwick probably would want the character to continue.

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Todd

BP2 is going weird too, watching some stunt performer pull off some action move and then see Chadwick pull off the mask afterwards is going to be surreal. How much is done. Considering Marvel must have known his condition they must have filmed all his scenes.  Do they cut and reshoot scenes to avoid the disbelief of an actor in late stage cancer performing stunts and fight scenes? How do they write in his death?

They haven’t even started shooting BP2.

I’m sure Ryan Coogler knew of Boseman’s condition though and has been writing the script knowing his star wouldn’t be around. Personally, I’d rather Okoye became the next Panther – I prefer Shuri in her Q role.

I watched the first movie this afternoon, and the scenes where T’Challa visits his ancestors in the afterlife were… tough.

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Steve Sensible wrote:

They haven’t even started shooting BP2.

I’m sure Ryan Coogler knew of Boseman’s condition though and has been writing the script knowing his star wouldn’t be around.

I’ve seen people claim that they had been gearing up to shoot soon, working his cancer into the plot.

paul f wrote:

I’ve seen people claim that they had been gearing up to shoot soon, working his cancer into the plot.

Weird my earlier post seems to have disappeared . Boseman was a truly special person. He first played a baseball pioneer than became a pioneer himself. He was a comic book hero yet he was eulogized by sports people like SVP, Charles Barkley, Shaq, and Kenny Smith. I remember as a child when jocks and geeks clashed badly. Now we have a comic book star being honored by sports programs.

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Rocket wrote:

Weird my earlier post seems to have disappeared.

Yes it did. I remember seeing it, now it’s just gone.
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As to the subject matter, I can’t believe he’s gone. Too young, way too young.
But he accomplished so much, and good for him.

Black Panther sits at #13 on the all-time international list with $1.347 Billion
(a measly) $12 Million pushes it past Harry Potter (DH pt. 2) into the twelfth.
Count on a re-release in theatres soon.

TBS is airing Black Panther twice this weekend. It’s on now and will be on tomorrow night.

Steve Sensible wrote:

I’m sure Ryan Coogler knew of Boseman’s condition though and has been writing the script knowing his star wouldn’t be around. Personally, I’d rather Okoye became the next Panther – I prefer Shuri in her Q role.

He says he didn’t know the details of his condition, but it’s unclear if he didn’t know about it all, or just didn’t know how bad it was:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-director-ryan-coogler-pens-emotional-beautiful-tribute-to-chadwick-boseman

Chad deeply valued his privacy, and I wasn’t privy to the details of his illness. After his family released their statement, I realized that he was living with his illness the entire time I knew him.

…

I haven’t grieved a loss this acute before. I spent the last year preparing, imagining and writing words for him to say, that we weren’t destined to see. It leaves me broken knowing that I won’t be able to watch another close-up of him in the monitor again or walk up to him and ask for another take.

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‘Black Panther’ Director Ryan Coogler On Chadwick Boseman: ‘Because He Was A Caretaker, A Leader, And A Man Of Faith, Dignity And Pride, He Shielded His Collaborators From His Suffering”

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JRCarter wrote:

TBS is airing Black Panther twice this weekend. It’s on now and will be on tomorrow night.

ABC, the Disney owned network, will be airing BP commercial free tonight followed by a tribute to Boseman.

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R.I.P. #ChadwickBoseman #ChadwickBosemanForever #RestInPower

Such an incredible loss of an inspiring human being and gifted artist.
This was one of the most difficult portraits I've ever done.

(11×17 watercolor, colored pencil, airbrush on hot press watercolor paper) pic.twitter.com/xFx5yTYhF0

— Bill Sienkiewicz (@sinKEVitch) August 31, 2020

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Lost my dear friend and cohort Norm Spencer. WHat a sad day. Norm was the voice of Cyclops on X-Men the animated series.He was a genuine Character and sweetheart. I will miss her you Cyc. sorry about the “convertible ” Bub. see ya later my friend.

— Cal Dodd (@realcaldodd) August 31, 2020

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Amazon In Talks For Sony’s Suite Of TV Series Featuring Marvel Characters, Led By ‘Silk’

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Ah yes, Silk, the character everyone’s been waiting for… wait which one is silk?? =/

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I think Cena’s trying to say something.

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Todd

That’d be fun casting.

What’s going on with the next Spider-Man movie anyway? We don’t know anything yet, do we? Are there even good titles with “home” in them left???

Christian wrote:

That’d be fun casting.

What’s going on with the next Spider-Man movie anyway? We don’t know anything yet, do we? Are there even good titles with “home” in them left???

I stand by my suggestion of “Spider-Man: As a Gen Z I’ll Never Be Able To Afford My Own Home.”

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Spider-Man: This Is Not My Beautiful Home

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Christian wrote:

What’s going on with the next Spider-Man movie anyway?

They got Sam Raimi to direct and Tobey Maguire is rumored to return as Spider-Man. And they’re doing it like some sort of a buddy-movie with Doctor Strange? Doctor Strange and the Spider-Man fight Madness, I think it was called… Speaking of called, I’m calling it now (speculation warning): They’ll do the thing last minute-ish.

Come to think of it, they will probably make the next MCU Spider-Man film so that whatever measure of virginity decency foreign currency innocence Spider-Man is still managing to hold on to with the proportional strength of a confidently misguided teenager at the start of the movie has been lost along the way at the time the third act draws to a close, and we’re left with a Spider-Man that changes his name… To Spider-Boy! And he starts touring the country on his Harley Davidson. He had to sell Aunt Mays apartment to make the thread, but on the road with his 57 year old cougar girlfriend, Spider-Boy have no fucks to spare.

Jon will hate it, so will I. Albeit for different reasons. Tim is back at this point, but he goes by Jim and noone knows and or gives a shit. Al-X will give the movie five/five and say woke shit like “I admit I was wrong to call those types of females creepy in the relationship thread, you guys! I can see it now. They’re just alt-sexy! Just kiddin… OR AM I!? … Just sayin … ”

You’ve seen the signs too, you know I’m right.

Spider-Man: Homewrecker.

The series takes things in an unexpected direction…

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saga wrote:

Spider-Man: Homewrecker. The series takes things in an unexpected direction…

I was expecting Spider-man: Homeworker.  In Lockdown he just. sits in a corner of the room, spinning webs, perhaps doing some internet sleuthing. Who is stealing all the bandwidth?

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Dan wrote:

I was expecting Spider-man: Homeworker

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I get asked all the time if there was a season 3 of Avengers, what would it have been? Producer Josh Fine and I always said it would be magic and mutants. So I figured for the 10th anniversary, I'd put together a kind of a What If…? #AvengersEMH10

— christopher yost (@yost) September 5, 2020

Concept art for cancelled “Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” Season 3 (art by character designer Thomas Perkins)Artwork

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Jonathan Majors joins Ant-Man 3, probably as Kang the Conqueror

I wonder if he’s being set up as the villain for Phase 4, or if this is a one-off?

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Hank Cannon

I suspect you wouldn’t throw away Kang on a smaller movie, he’s got to be being set up for Avenger 5.

Unless they have plans for Doom or Magneto now those are re-integrated you don’t really get a bigger villain.

Twitter is using that info to create Young Avengers buzz. Ant Man 3 has Cassie and Kang(Iron Lad), Hawkeye has Kate and Wandavision may have Billy and Tommy. Empyre also just married Teddy and Billy so it was amusing to see Young Avengers trending.

I doubt they’ll do anything with Iron Lad. He’s an incredibly minor character, and makes little sense if Kang isn’t already an established character. If they’re going to do Young Avengers, it’ll probably be closer to the Gillen/McKelvie team.

paul f wrote:

Jonathan Majors joins Ant-Man 3, probably as Kang the Conqueror

Maybe part of how the Fantastic Four will be introduced into the MCU?

paul f wrote:

it’ll probably be closer to the Gillen/McKelvie team.

They covered that too. America could be in Doc Strange 2 and Marvel Boy could be in Cap Marvel 2.

It makes sense Kang shows up in Ant-man 3 since Scott was the first to discover time-travel in the MCU. I can’t pretend I’m not disappointed though since I love Kang and can’t stand the Ant-man movies. I fear he’ll be reduced to a bad joke.

I’ve a feeling Kang might also show up in the Loki TV show, since we know that will feature time-travel, what with the Time Variance Authority being featured in it.

‘She-Hulk’ Disney Plus Series Casts Tatiana Maslany in Lead Role

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Oh good, she’s great. I thought she was amazing in Orphan Black.

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Couldn’t help but post this comment:

RickyG
September 17, 2020 at 2:35 pm

Why is a white person being cast in this role? Green people are vastly underrepresented onscreen and this role should have gone to a green person.

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Todd

So a ‘ton’ equals two?

 

Found this Change.org petition on the Hudlin Entertainment Forums:

http://chng.it/VyDCDzzw5x

garjones wrote:

So a ‘ton’ equals two?

 

Also, I’m pretty sure Klaw losing his hand is more of an origin story rather than a homage to anything else… but hey, it’s Cracked…

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A ton of Phase Two titles also have the word “the” in the title, which is the MCU’s way of homaging Attack Of The Clones, the second movie of the second Star Wars trilogy.

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[Dan]

garjones wrote:

So a ‘ton’ equals two?

perhaps each shot cost 1000 pounds?

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[Dan]

Dan wrote:

garjones wrote:

So a ‘ton’ equals two?

perhaps each shot cost 1000 pounds?

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2000 pounds does not make a ton.

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Anonymous wrote:

Dan wrote:

garjones wrote:

So a ‘ton’ equals two?

perhaps each shot cost 1000 pounds?

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2000 pounds does not make a ton.

They are American movies though

RickyG? that wouldn’t happened to be the equal opportunity celebrity offender R Gervais?

 

On top of everything else, someone loses a hand in all three of the original Star Wars movies Pondo Baba in Hope, Luke in Empire and Vader in Jedi.  It’s a recurring motif, for Bob’s sake.

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‘Ms. Marvel’ Finds Directors in Pakistani Oscar Winner, ‘Bad Boys for Life’ Filmmakers (Exclusive)

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That trailer has me hopeful that it could be something good. It at least looks like it’s going to offer something different to the usual TV superhero fare.

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I’ve watched that trailer a couple of times through and about half way through it flashes on a dark haired woman sitting on a kitchen counter.  Will Wanda have a twin Serena (from Bewitched)?

Rocket wrote:

I’ve watched that trailer a couple of times through and about half way through it flashes on a dark haired woman sitting on a kitchen counter.  Will Wanda have a twin Serena (from Bewitched)?

That’s Kathryn Hahn (the same actress who shows up later in the witch’s hat) and the popular theory is that she’s playing Agatha Harkness.

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