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Like this story about the Russos wanting to direct FF.

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Hey, I loved Captain Power, it’s just the effects haven’t aged gracefully.

(Also, that show was basically the foundational moment for Babylon 5)

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Christian

Yeah, I hadn’t realised that Straczinsky was on Captain Power

I really don’t like Task Master’s look. The mask is a real disappointment. I would’ve almost prefered if they’d used Crossbone’s mask.

I’m really hoping the Eternals will introduce a new look, a new design direction, so to speak, ’cause all these IM/SHIELD-like designs for over a decade are waaay past getting old.

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Since people have expressed an interest in it, here are two presentation boards from the Daredevil cartoon proposal from 1982 that Frank Miller’s cover put the kibosh on. pic.twitter.com/F1RGFzjTEa

— Tom Brevoort (@TomBrevoort) March 26, 2020

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Scarlett Johansson talks Black Widow: “Natasha Romanoff in a family drama is the least expected thing”

Here's the brand new @TotalFilm subscriber cover featuring Marvel Studios' #BlackWidow! pic.twitter.com/VeVMM0ByZH

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Recognize this version’s inspiration? This is another design version I did of Captain Marvel for her new look in Avengers: Endgame #captainmarvel #avengers #avengersendgame #conceptart #characterdesign #costumedesign #illustration #그림 #그림스타그램 #일러스트 #일러스트그램 #marvel #marvelstudios #brielarson @brielarson

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That video is 9:31 long; it must only be the introduction episode of a 24-part series.

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Runtime for The New Mutants

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JRCarter wrote:

Runtime for The New Mutants

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94 minutes for those who don’t feel like clicking.

That’s if it ever comes out.

 

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— Art of Marvel (@ArtofMarvel) April 10, 2020

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natasha's alternate death scene from avengers: endgame. i'm in tears. 😭pic.twitter.com/fy2Bw6XxsR

— romanoff (@goshromanoff) April 9, 2020

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Oh no. Accidentally posted a BTS shot from #agentsofshield s.7. I better delete this. Soon.

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Crap! I did it again! This stuff is classified. So sorry. #agentsofshield BTS s.7

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Wow. It must be some kind of glitch. @chloebennet

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Good hairstyles.

Time restraints can be the only reason they cut this scene out of BLACK PANTHER:

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JRCarter wrote:

Time restraints can be the only reason they cut this scene out of BLACK PANTHER:

Yeah, that scene would’ve really been needed. They should’ve left it in really; you could feel the gap of where it should’ve been.

Its a really great scene.  I can’t think of any good reasons why it was cut except maybe there was enough in their already about questioning T’Challa’s actions and maybe they didn’t want to push that envelope too far.

Might it be because it would change perception of W’Kabis turning back to the fold from “Doing it because T’Challa is the true leader of Wakanda” to “Doing it because I love Okoye”.

Could be.

In other news, has anyone mentioned Sam Raimi in the last 24 hours?

Because Sam Raimi has news

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Todd

Because he was confirmed as helming Doctor Strange and There’s No Way Toby Maguire Is In This Sequel?

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Todd

Sam Raimi is confirmed for Docor Strange? No way!

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Sam Raimi is confirmed for Docor Strange? No way!

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No way! Madness

Anonymous wrote:

No way! Madness

Yeah, it’s strange.

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meh… I’m not feeling that Sam Raimi announcement… =/

Jon wrote:

meh… I’m not feeling that Sam Raimi announcement… =/

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Oz the Great and Powerful

Nuff said

 

Dan wrote:

Oz the Great and Powerful

Nuff said

 

Exactly… and it’s not like he’s done a ton of stuff since that one train wreck… Plus, let’s be honest, the Raimi Spidey trilogy hasn’t aged all that well… I dunno, it’s a safe and uninspired choice… but then again we’re talking about Disney here, so yeah =/

I’m a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to Doc Strange 2 quite a bit, and now I kinda fear it’s gonna be another generic MCU movie…

Jon wrote:

let’s be honest, the Raimi Spidey trilogy hasn’t aged all that well

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Todd

See? Even creepy cop agrees with me…

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I actually agree with you in that the Raimi films haven’t aged well.

Actually, I don’t think Spider-Man 1 was any good to begin with, and while Spider-Man 2 is the only one I remember being really good, Spider-Man 3 is so bad the whole trilogy just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Except for Jonah and Dafoe. They were great.

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Rocket

I rewatched them all recently with the kids and they hold up pretty well as all-ages movies. They’re fairly sincere and uncynical and I think that makes them seem a bit old-fashioned compared to the modern style of superhero movie. But it’s one of the reasons why I like them.

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DavidM

They’re well made, well cast, with tons of money spent on them.

I think the dialogue is generally banal, and I wish that was not the case. They need some sparkle and not just because they’re Spidey films.

They really matter, they were part of the emergence and evolution of the genre.

But better dialogue would elevate all of them.

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I don’t really remember anything standing out as particularly banal, unless it’s an aspect of the sincere approach again (and being banal means not having MCU style one-liners throughout).

I remember there being a really fun fizz to all the dialogue in the Daily Bugle scenes, lots of laughs involving Spidey, and genuine heart to all the parts involving May and Ben. Maybe Norman gets bit too much cliché villain dialogue in the first one but I thought they made up for that with the much more human Doc Ock in the second (although arguably lost it again with Harry stepping into Norman’s shoes).

It’s an interesting criticism though and not one that I’ve ever heard voiced about those films in the past. I’ll have to bear it in mind next time I watch them.

Another deleted scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7rfP7dYEak

Anonymous wrote:

Except for Jonah

Yes… of course… that’s not even open to debate =P

Alfred Molina was great as well. I’m not super fond of Dafoe but he did okay… so did Sandman dude… So yeah, I guess the villains were alright… the rest, eh… I’d probably like SM2 a lot more if the SFX didn’t look like utter shit these days.

I think Raimi is better suited to strange then Spidey, and some of the best parts of Spidey leaned into that horror stuff anyway (I’m thinking more seeing through Ocks tentacles then Venom). I think he’s proven he can do a good scene , but occassionally makes a bad movie.

Stuff like Nightmare and Shuma Gorath are well within his wheelhouse though. I’m optimistic.

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Dave wrote:

I don’t really remember anything standing out as particularly banal, unless it’s an aspect of the sincere approach again (and being banal means not having MCU style one-liners throughout).

The fact that you don’t really remember any of the dialogue standing out is pretty much what I mean.

Do the films have any quotable lines? I did a search because it’s been so long since I watched the movies, maybe I was misremembering;

https://www.moviequotes.com/s-movie/spider-man/
https://www.moviequotes.com/s-movie/spider-man-2/
https://www.moviequotes.com/s-movie/spider-man-3/

Maybe a couple of Jameson’s comebacks are good, but that’s all.

SteveUK wrote:

The fact that you don’t really remember any of the dialogue standing out is pretty much what I mean.

I said standing out as particularly banal. The rest of my post gave examples of scenes that stood out as having memorably good dialogue.

I agree though that they’re not “quotable lines” kind of movies with dialogue that you can pick out and enjoy in its own right, divorced from the story. But then I don’t think they’re aiming for that kind of showiness. The dialogue serves the characters and the story but mostly isn’t aiming to be dazzling in its own right.

I know we’re used to that from the likes of the MCU movies these days but I think that zinger-every-minute style can make those films feel a bit samey and hollow in some ways. The Raimi Spider-Man trilogy has a lot of heart and a sincere approach and I think cramming it with ‘sparkling’ dialogue could have undercut that.

Spider-man also had America’s Ass.

He just wasn’t obvious about it.

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Dave

The dialogue criticism is an interesting point though and makes me think that there probably aren’t many superhero movies that are truly strong in that way.

When I think of captivating and attention-grabbing dialogue I think of something like a Tarantino movie where you can be hugely entertained by two people in a room just talking.

I don’t know if any superhero movies can really boast that – maybe The Dark Knight comes closest with some of the Joker scenes, but that’s partly due to Ledger being electrifying on-screen too. I mentioned the MCU movies but that’s all fairly throwaway jokey stuff thay doesn’t really stick (and to be honest I don’t remember that much of it afterwards either.)

I guess superhero movies by their nature tend to be focused on action and spectacle rather than static scenes of people talking. And when they do go for something deeper and more dialogue-based they’re as likely to get mocked for it as anything else (Martha!).

Or come across as pale imitations (Joker).

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Dave wrote:

I know we’re used to that from the likes of the MCU movies these days

I saw these films in the cinema so I wasn’t comparing them to the MCU back then, it didn’t exist yet. I was comparing them to every other movie I had seen and was seeing and the dialogue came up short.

This isn’t a reassessment, it what I thought at the time, it’s an impression that’s stayed with me.

The action is often great, but the bits in between, the human drama and humor, aren’t.

So I hope Raimi has some good writers for ‘Strange’.

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Dave wrote:

The dialogue criticism is an interesting point though and makes me think that there probably aren’t many superhero movies that are truly strong in that way.

I would disagree.

I mean, this is mostly funny dialogue, not philosophically deep ones, but honestly the parts I liked best about the Marvel movies were the dialogue in the Whedon and Gunn and Waititi movies. Avengers, Guardians and Thor 3 are my favourite Marvel movies not because of the spectace, but because of the dialogue.

Where Raimi is concerned… I loved the first Spider-Man when I saw it because it was a Spider-Man movie that got the character right at a time when we had hardly seen movies like this. But even rewatching it back then, just a few years later, it hadn’t aged all that well – a lot of it quickly seemed a bit silly. Loved Dafoe though.

Hated the second one when I saw it in the cinema (and that was because of the shit dialogue and the nonsense plot, yeah) and didn’t even go see the third one.

You know, there is a lot of stuff that Raimi did that I love, but nothing that makes me think he could make a great Strange movie. I kinda wish they’d have gone with someone younger and with more visual flair.

EDIT: I mean, if he’s doing it. The thing yesterday just said he said he’s involved, which could also mean as a producer or something. So we will see.

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Scott Derickson wished him well in a tweet, so short of  Feiges confirmation I think we can be confident it’s him.

Also, you hated the second one? Is it different in German somehow?

 

Dave wrote:

Jon wrote:

let’s be honest, the Raimi Spidey trilogy hasn’t aged all that well

Do the kids still like Macy Gray?

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saga wrote:

Dave wrote:

Jon wrote:

let’s be honest, the Raimi Spidey trilogy hasn’t aged all that well

Do the kids still like Macy Gray?

A few years ago, the wife and I saw Macy Gray perform live. She put on a great show but there wasn’t a huge audience.

So to answer your question, I don’t think so.

SteveUK wrote:

Do the films have any quotable lines? I did a search because it’s been so long since I watched the movies, maybe I was misremembering;

“You can’t save everybody. You’re not Superman.”

…ok, I thought I would have a lot more, but I’m done.

Oh, wait, wait…

“With great power comes great responsibility.”

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SteveUK wrote:

Do the films have any quotable lines?

“Sometimes to do what’s right we must be steady and give up the things we desire the most… Even our dreams.”

So, no, then?

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Rocket

SteveUK wrote:

So, no, then?

Yes, no.

SteveUK wrote:

Do the films have any quotable lines?

Aunt May: You do too much – college, a job, all this time with me… You’re not Superman, you know.

New Yorker: Oh, yeah, I got somethin’ for your ass! *throws something at the Green Goblin*

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Aunt May: You do too much – college, a job, all this time with me… You’re not Superman, you know.

New Yorker: Oh, yeah, I got somethin’ for your ass!

I initially read this as though it was all part of the same scene and got confused.

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JRCarter, Bruce

Also, it’s not like Raimi’s gonna be able to cut lose either, it’s a Disney movie… so that’s kind of what I don’t get about him being involved. Since hard horror seems to be out of the question (probably why Derrickson is out in the first place), they might as well go with someone with a lot visual flair to at least make it look fantastic.

<p style=”text-align: left;”>Say what you will about James Franco and/or Spider-Man 3 but there is nary a better line reading than his shit-eating “so good!” in response to someone asking him how his pie is.</p>

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Dave

Here it is: So good.

Anonymous wrote:

Also, you hated the second one? Is it different in German somehow?

Nope, just as crappy as in English.

JRCarter wrote:

Aunt May: You do too much – college, a job, all this time with me… You’re not Superman, you know.

Ah thanks, that’s the line I was trying to quote and got completely wrong.

It was a good line. Also, it establishes that DC comics exist in the Spideyverse. I guess Steve Ditko exists too, as he did a lot of work for DC (including with Superboy, though possibly not Superman).

Hopefully Man of Steel doesn’t exist. Petey’s depressed enough.

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Well we know Stan Lee exists in the Raimiverse as he won’t stop showing up.

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Dave wrote:

Well we know Stan Lee exists in the Raimiverse as he won’t stop showing up.

I guess it was him and J Jonah Jameson who survived the collapse of the Raimiverse into the MCU.  I can only imagine the chat between the two.

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Todd

What verse was Christian in when he watched Spidey 2?

I watched a different version.

Christian is just anti-octopus.

He’s always been that way.  One time, he and I had beers in London and he would not stop talking about “the impending extinction of the human race at the tentacles of cephalapods”.  Honestly, I know he’s right, but it just gets a bit tiresome after the hundredth time.

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he would not stop talking about “the impending extinction of the human race at the tentacles of cephalapods”.

Don’t drink and Watchmen.

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PETA Lobbies for THOR to Go Vegan for GOD & THUNDER to Lose Bro Thor Weight

By Chris Arrant, Editor April 17, 2020 06:17am ET

Credit: Marvel Studios

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is lobbying writer/director Taika Waititi to have Chris Hemsworth’s Thor change to a vegan diet in Thor: God & Thunder to explain his weight loss back from being Avengers: Endgame’s ‘Fat Thor.’

“Chris Hemsworth went vegan while filming the original Thor and The Avengers films, and other Marvel Cinematic Universe stars like Benedict Cumberbatch and Natalie Portman are powered by plants,” said PETA Senior VP Lisa Lange. “PETA hopes Taika Waititi will have the god of thunder get in shape and save the planet by keeping animals off his plate.”

Here is PETA’s open letter to Waititi:

Dear Taika,

We understand that you have a bit of a weight problem on your hands, and PETA is here to help. As we all remember, Thor packed on a few pounds in Avengers: Endgame, so the question consuming Marvel fans across the Nine Realms is how our favorite thunder god will return to his Ragnarockin’ bod in your upcoming film, Thor: Love and Thunder. We suggest taking a page from Chris Hemsworth’s own playbook and exploring what would happen if Thor tried going vegan.

According to his personal trainer, Hemsworth went vegan while filming the original Thor and Avengers films, developing a particular taste for beans and veggie burgers. Perhaps if Thor took the Bifrost Bridge to our world, he might get inspired by plant-based Avengers, Benedict Cumberbatch (Doctor Strange) and Natalie Portman (Jane Foster) and that battle armor would start fitting a little more comfortably.

If Thor is serious about protecting the Earth, going vegan makes a lot of sense—axing animal products from his diet could save more than 1,000 gallons of water, 20 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions, and 30 square feet of forest each day as well as the lives of nearly 200 animals a year! By having Thor go vegan, you could easily explain his restored physique while hammering home the benefits of a plant-based diet.

Just some food for thought …

Best regards,
Lewis Crary
Assistant Manager, Animals in Film & Television
PETA

I can’t believe they made such a big deal about “plant-based Avengers” and didn’t even mention Groot.

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Are you suggesting Thor should eat Groot?

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PETA have done so much to discredit the animal rights movement over the last 15-20 years I’m pretty sure they’re evidence that COINTELPRO is atill in operation.

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Are you suggesting Thor should eat Groot?

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I think Thor would be more likely to eat the raccoon.

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JRCarter, Todd

He’s a rabbit.

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Current rumor is that Chadwick Boseman is out as Black Panther. I hope that’s not true.

That would be a major loss. All of the BP cast are great. The only one that’s probably interchangeable is Everett.

I can’t trace this back to anywhere credible. An argument over money is always possible with Marvel, but I hope this is just clickbait.

It would be crazy given the success of the first film.

There’s also Chadwick’s recent dramatic weight loss:

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Pre-covid hang with @awkwafina, @simuliu & the legend Tony Leung. This was our last night out before Corona punched the world in the face.

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According to Variety, the Venom sequel is going to be called Venom: Let There Be Carnage.

(Not Venom 2, not Venom: Carnage, not even Maximum Carnage. Which were my guesses.)

It makes it sound like a musical.

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That’s certainly not the name I would have gone with. (That would have been Venom: The butthole edition)

Dave wrote:

It makes it sound like a musical.

Venom: LIVE from Carnagie Hall

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Maximum Venom Vs Maximum Carnage: Xtreme Maximum 2 – The Xtremening!

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Dave wrote:

It makes it sound like a musical.

Venom: Turn Off The Dark

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Todd

Anonymous wrote:

That’s certainly not the name I would have gone with. (That would have been Venom: The butthole edition)

They don’t want people to confuse it with the first one.

JRCarter wrote:

Dave wrote:

It makes it sound like a musical.

Venom: Turn Off The Dark

Venom: Turn Off The Projector

(Joking aside, I quite liked the first Venom movie.)

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Venom & Carnage’s Excellent Adventure?

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When Venom met Carnage

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Todd

Ballistic: Venom vs Carnage.

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Crouching Venom, Hidden Carnage

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Fast & Furious Presents: Venom & Carnage

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VvC:R

Dude, Where’s My Carnage? 

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Venom II: The Legend Of Carnage’s Gold

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Fried green Venom at the Carnage Cafe

lorcan_nagle wrote:

Ballistic: Venom vs Carnage.

 

Brokeback Carnage

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Carnage 1: Venom 2

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Jesus Carnage: Supervenom by Andrew Lloyd Webber

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Minimum Carnage

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Anonymous wrote:

Webber

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Monty Python’s Life of Venom

Monty Python’s The Meaning of Carnage

Hatty McMumbles vs. Carnycletus-Scaryface.