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Or “Some People on Twitter Said Dumb Things.”
And there was no debate on Christianity in that article. There was a little about the homophobia of Pratt’s specific church, but not even much of that.
I’m fine with people giving Pratt some shit for his church’s homophobia, but honestly this isn’t a big thing and it never will be and Newsweek might as well stop to sell this as “news”.
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Or “Some People on Twitter Said Dumb Things.”
And there was no debate on Christianity in that article. There was a little about the homophobia of Pratt’s specific church, but not even much of that.
I’m fine with people giving Pratt some shit for his church’s homophobia, but honestly this isn’t a big thing and it never will be and Newsweek might as well stop to sell this as “news”.
I think that once Pratt finishes his contractual obligations to Marvel, he’s going to move on. Hell, he wouldn’t even voice Starlord on the What If? series while he does does a bunch of other animated work.
And as much as I love Patrick Wilson, he lacks that natural comedic spark that has become heavily associated with the character.
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Sony Announces Spider-Man El Muerto Film Starring Bad Bunny
For those who don’t recall (and I don’t know why you would, other than that there aren’t many Latino Spidey characters), El Muerto appeared in two issues of Peter David and Roger Cruz’s FNSM back in 2006: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Juan-Carlos_Sanchez_(Earth-616)
He has not been mentioned in the 16 years since.
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Sony Announces Spider-Man El Muerto Film Starring Bad Bunny
Finally! Can’t believe it’s taken them so long.
Hopefully this means a Bambi, Randi & Candi movie is only a matter of time.
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Disney is refusing to cut LGBTQ scene in Doctor Strange 2, Saudi Arabia says
Seems like the only thing being objected to is a reference to America having two moms, so no actual gay content in the movie.
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And as much as I love Patrick Wilson, he lacks that natural comedic spark that has become heavily associated with the character.
Yeah, it’s hilarious how people keep suggesting actors purely based on the way they look, as if acting ability or charisma or just natural personality all weren’t factors at all.
And yeah, I also love Patrick Wilson (mainly for Fargo), but he’d be terrible for this.
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News on new release dates:
Now Antman will come Feb 17 next year and
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Probably starring Chris Pine either as Reed Richards or Dr. Doom:
Side note, lately whenever I look into the bio of some movie or television star, I’m always finding out that their families have deep Hollywood connections. Still, Chris Pine – like Jeff Bridges and Josh Brolin – is a pretty good movie star.
When I think of Chris Pine, I think of Jim O’Hara and his “Chris Pine Theory”.
The theory is that an actor has only about 5 years from their “big break” to become a permanent A+ Hollywood blockbuster lead. If they can’t do it in the time frame, they won’t get the opportunities for leads in big pictures. In that time frame, they will need to successfully carry highly successful big budget movies. If they can’t, studios will be very reluctant in casting them in big budget films. They will still be cast in lead roles, but the budgets will be moderate at best.
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Don’t be silly. Quentin would never make a womans feet invisible.
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A ‘voice maybe in the know’ says Marvel execs are very happy with how Ant-Man 3 is progressing. Hence it being shifted up the schedule and it’s more a reflection of how well that is going than Marvels hitting problems. FF clearly hitting big problems (he told me 4 days ago but had to be stay quiet until the press release).
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I mean it is mostly meaningless, I couldn’t have told you which was being released first anyway off the top of my head. Just interesting that they are feeling good vibes about Ant-Man 3.
I wonder if there’s any hope of Peyton Reed leveraging that into getting the Fantastic Four gig that he’s been after for decades.
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She normally sees MCU and Star Wars material several months to a year before the rest of us and is very discreet (or would have been sacked years ago). I just get tiny little hints every now and again and at most a few days before they go public.
I know it must be very frustrating to a be massive genre fan and know that much and say next to nothing. It takes a lot of control. I was for a little while in MM’s email chain and he wasn’t that disciplined with the gossip. Luckily people respected to keep it ‘in-house’ but I can say that the Bryan Singer stories didn’t come as a big shock to me, I’d read pretty much every detail word for word 2 years earlier.
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Heh. I was way off then!
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he wasn’t that disciplined with the gossip.
quelle surprise
I wonder if that is why the Millarworld twitter is used as a buffer between Mark and the Public. It is more to prevent rumors coming from Mark’s side than to save him time dealing with answering mail.
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I wonder if that is why the Millarworld twitter is used as a buffer between Mark and the Public.
Honestly I think it’s just a normal switch in focus. He was big into message boards, beyond most had dumped them. Then on Twitter a lot and his account said yesterday it’s just a staff managed account he hasn’t viewed for 6 months.
I’m in Facebook, Twitter and Whatsapp/Telegram chats with people that used to be here. Do I think it is better? Largely I don’t but they seem to. I just find it weird it’s turned back to newsletters via Substack, for me the least satisfying and most retro of all of them.
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So putting things all together:
Kate Bishop is the new Hawkeye
Florence Pugh the new Black Widow
She Hulk will replace Bruce
Jane Foster will be the new Thor
Falcon the new Cap
As for Iron Man… that will be worked on. Maybe Reed Richards with the FF and Xavier etc. will come to help out in the next MCU epic.
Then there is Shang-Chi, a new Black Panther, Ms Marvel, the young Middle Eastern girl with the hands, America Chavez now…
I don’t know whether Moon Knight will be followed up on.
Sounds like a lot? I forgot Morbius and the Eternals…
I left out some streaming stuff with Loki, the female variant, The Kang guy, The US Agent, Julia Louise Dreyfus character who is recruiting her own people, etc…
Always refreshing the MCU with new heroes is a good idea.
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As for those who look down on you and put their nose up on comics, the MCU, Star Trek, Star Wars, all of sci-fi and fantasy.
The ones who go out of their way to tell you “I fell asleep in the theater about a half hour into the first Star Wars movie in 77…
FY!
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So putting things all together:
Kate Bishop is the new Hawkeye
Florence Pugh the new Black Widow
She Hulk will replace Bruce
Jane Foster will be the new Thor
Falcon the new Cap
As for Iron Man… that will be worked on. Maybe Reed Richards with the FF and Xavier etc. will come to help out in the next MCU epic.
Then there is Shang-Chi, a new Black Panther, Ms Marvel, the young Middle Eastern girl with the hands, America Chavez now…
I don’t know whether Moon Knight will be followed up on.
Sounds like a lot? I forgot Morbius and the Eternals…
I left out some streaming stuff with Loki, the female variant, The Kang guy, The US Agent, Julia Louise Dreyfus character who is recruiting her own people, etc…
Always refreshing the MCU with new heroes is a good idea.
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As for those who look down on you and put their nose up on comics, the MCU, Star Trek, Star Wars, all of sci-fi and fantasy.
The ones who go out of their way to tell you “I fell asleep in the theater about a half hour into the first Star Wars movie in 77…
FY!
I fell asleep 30 mins into Star Wars. I asked where was doctor who and the Daleks, and didn’t like the answer.
Excuse: I was about 7
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Spidey as well, contract negotiations notwithstanding.
I haven’t seen the new Dr Strange movie yet but presumably he remains a going concern. Wanda too.
Vision is likely still floating around somewhere, taking some time out to catch up on his podcasts.
Isn’t there an Agatha Harkness show on the way too?
Matt Murdock may or may not get more screen time.
And the Guardians and the cast of galactic supporting characters.
And the FF and Deadpool and all those gosh darn pesky mutants on the way.
Poor Stan Lee would be knackered if he was trying to appear in all this stuff.
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The MCU has a challenge the comics don’t. Actors age, artists can draw Spider-Man as under 30 for 60 years. Bruce Banner can be the main Hulk now in the comics, if he were an actor he’d be around about 80 years old.
That really pushes forth the ‘legacy’ element the comics have toyed with and pulled back from in waves as fans like or dislike bits and pieces. Jeremy Renner is 51 years old, they are already playing with him being tired and partially deaf. Feige has a choice of going legacy characters or at some point rebooting the whole thing. That choice will depend on how the box office goes. His new Hawkeye is half Renner’s age, she can go another couple of decades realistically.
As much as we love Patrick Stewart’s casting as Xavier he is really really old, he won’t be in these films in 10 years time.
Portman is actually 2 years older than Hemsworth so I suspect that is more of a fun storyline to use her than a long term approach.
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I take it that Netflix might have thought they had their own MCU when they bought Millarworld but…
Netflix paid 0.01% of the price to procure Millarworld as to what Disney paid for Marvel.
There are nice graphics that point out the differences between millions and billions we normally find hard to compute I can add some other context. While the MW purchase would have put Millar in the 1% richest people in Scotland it is the same as is being reported for one episode of Stranger Things season 4.
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I take it that Netflix might have thought they had their own MCU when they bought Millarworld but…
Netflix paid 0.01% of the price to procure Millarworld as to what Disney paid for Marvel.
There are nice graphics that point out the differences between millions and billions we normally find hard to compute I can add some other context. While the MW purchase would have put Millar in the 1% richest people in Scotland it is the same as is being reported for one episode of Stranger Things season 4.
Netflix did spend a lot on the Jupiter’s Legacy show too, and probably spent a good bit on the abandoned Magic Order show. They’re filming American Jesus now, which I assume will be a more modest affair. From what I can tell, it’s going to be a primarily Spanish-language show, filming in Mexico with Mexican directors.
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So putting things all together: Kate Bishop is the new Hawkeye Florence Pugh the new Black Widow She Hulk will replace Bruce Jane Foster will be the new Thor Falcon the new Cap As for Iron Man… that will be worked on.
Aren’t they doing an Ironheart/Riri Williams series on Disney+ too?
Yup, spinning out of Black Panther 2 apparently, though I assume the more direct Iron Man follow-up will be the Armor Wars series, starring Cheadle. Echo’s also supposed to get a D+ series.
With the Sony stuff, it’ll be interesting to see how they handle Morbius going forward. Obviously his movie flopped (relative to Venom, etc), but do they throw out all the setup they did yet again and just never mention him? Do they have him show up at the end of Kraven and pretend people care about him?
If they think people care about Kraven then sure, all bets are off.
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As for Iron Man… that will be worked on.
Aren’t they doing an Ironheart/Riri Williams series on Disney+ too?
I assume the more direct Iron Man follow-up will be the Armor Wars series, starring Cheadle.
I can’t help but wonder why the kid who assisted Tony Stark in IRON MAN 3 was brought back for Tony’s memorial service at the conclusion of ENDGAME; I just assumed there are plans to use him in the MCU in some manner (Iron Lad?).
By the way, in AL-X’s list above, he forgot to mention Eli Bradley, grandson of Isaiah Bradley (the African American soldier who received the super-soldier serum during the Korean War and was then experimented on by the militaryfor decades; as I recall, Eli appeared to have inherited some of the super-soldier genetics from grandpa.
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I take it that Netflix might have thought they had their own MCU when they bought Millarworld but…
Netflix paid 0.01% of the price to procure Millarworld as to what Disney paid for Marvel.
There are nice graphics that point out the differences between millions and billions we normally find hard to compute I can add some other context. While the MW purchase would have put Millar in the 1% richest people in Scotland it is the same as is being reported for one episode of Stranger Things season 4.
Netflix did spend a lot on the Jupiter’s Legacy show too, and probably spent a good bit on the abandoned Magic Order show. They’re filming American Jesus now, which I assume will be a more modest affair. From what I can tell, it’s going to be a primarily Spanish-language show, filming in Mexico with Mexican directors.
Sure they also spend on the shows and Jupiter’s Legacy was a high cost production, but mainly wanted to point out the silliness of comparing MW to Marvel. Al’s done it before and I have pointed out how tiny the purchase price was in comparison.
I quite like the idea of transposing American Jesus to Mexico, the Catholic thing in truth should work better there than in the USA. It does point out another issue Netflix can have though, how bloody slow they can be, I heard Millar talk about them having the showrunner and scripts and locations in Mexico for this thing 4 years ago, now they are reporting actual filming started last month.
Covid will play its part but other streamers are keeping to decent schedules. It’s not just his stuff, 2 years or more between seasons I think has damaged a few of their shows. It seems weird that they’ve ended up in a place where they pride themselves on minimum creative interference but also the quickest to drop the axe.
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We’re drifting way off topic here but it’s not just the Millar stuff. The OA and Lost in Space lost a lot of traction with me (and kids for the latter) because there were about 2 and a half years between seasons. Russian Doll season 2 is 4 years after the first, although I think it matter a bit less there. Stranger Things is their big hit but hasn’t aired a new episode for 3 years. The Sandman was announced in June 2019 so unless it drops in the next 3 week that another 3 year gestation. It was a Word Balloon interview in 2018 where Millar mentioned the showrunner, the scripts and location for AJ and as I doubt funding is an issue you have to ask what said showrunner has been doing for 4 years if they only started filming last month.
It reminds me a bit of early Image where everyone is hailing the freedom but when the creatives are setting their own deadlines problems arise.
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I guess it could be an unintended consequence of Netflix’s model that they just have so much stuff in production that there’s a long queue internally before you can even get a launch date among their packed schedule.
I think too much content has been a problem for Netflix for a while now, but mostly I’d been thinking about that in terms of quality control and focus, rather than long waits for release dates. But it does seem that they are very slow compared to other developers.
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Al’s done it before and I have pointed out how tiny the purchase price was in comparison.
Ok… I wasn’t about the purchase. I was saying that Netflix might have thought they had their own comic universe now to develop shows from to rival the MCU. But the Jupiter Legacy show did not work out like they thought it would.
When it comes to buying the rights to a sci fi/fantasy story, some studios/showrunners will do it right, others will not. We all know about the comic movies that flopped, but movies like Lost in Space for example did not do the original justice. Land of the Lost could have been awesome imho, and so on…
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Thanks @njerry
I forgot about the first Captain America and his grandson.
There is just too much to keep track of.
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I was saying that Netflix might have thought they had their own comic universe now to develop shows from to rival the MCU.
Yeah and I kind of doubt that. They were buying a set of unknown IP (and apart from little easter eggs they aren’t really in a universe) – which excluded the existing hits of Kick Ass and Kingsman and they paid accordingly. Maybe it’ll be a bad investment, maybe American Jesus will take off and make it a good one but it was never comparable to the MCU.
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Well, that didn’t explain shit.
Also, holy shit I forgot MODOK even existed… and for good reason, it was awful.
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My current pick for Wolverine: Milo Gibson
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Well… there was a meme posted that the Star Wars productions are like a buffet where you can pick and choose what you want. You aren’t obligated to watch the whole thing. Don’t put pressure on yourself like that. Relax bro. 😂
That can be applied to Marvel movies and shows, Star Trek, and so much more. I personally passed up the Antman movies, a few seasons of Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, etc., a few of the What If cartoons, and we all passed up on Morbius.
I mean, we all drop titles, right?
24 hours in a day.
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Tatiana Maslany is great and it looks like it could be good fun. But some of that CGI looks rough.
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I don’t really live in this world. Most GCI is fine for me apart from that awful The Rock scorpion thing. It looks okay and they’ll tweak it. I love Indiana Jones and those dummies falling down the ravine look fake as shit, who cares?
I only really care about the story and characters, I was happy with stop motion in 80s movies. It is fine by me, they need to get the scripts right.
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Having said that I do see the point that if She-Hulk is going to be a fairly realistically-proportioned (albeit tall and muscular) woman while hulked-out, maybe just hiring an actress with that physique and turning her green (whether through makeup or digital effects) would have been more straightforward and wouldn’t register as artificial in the same way.
So, you’re saying we needed a female Lou Ferrigno?
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I can enjoy a comic book where the art is just decent, so I have no problem with a tv-show where the special effects are just decent. I’m more worried about the story. That has been the disappointing part of several of the Marvel-shows.
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the Skrulls replacing Fury and Hill in Far From Home
I had completely forgotten that plot point existed.
I guess that shows how much Far From Home interested me
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the Skrulls replacing Fury and Hill in Far From Home
I had completely forgotten that plot point existed.
I guess that shows how much Far From Home interested me
In fairness, it was only in a post-credit scene.
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Obviously… but I’m waaay more worried about everything else… in fact, it’s not even worry, it’s just a given at this point.
But hey, on the plus side, they might give him a better costume…
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After seeing what they did with Kingpin, I’m not that excited.
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But hey, on the plus side, they might give him a better costume…
Hey, if they can make Frog-Man look cool…
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Okay, that’s that done. Now let’s turn our attention to bringing back Colleen Wing and Misty Knight from the Netflix shows.
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I was at a company that did VFX for this. Apparently she was bigger early on, but the notes kept saying to “make her smaller.” We always roll our eyes (like we did on Sonic) but at the end of the day artists gotta follow orders.
— Kiwano 3D (@SeanRuecroft) May 18, 2022
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They’re both behind a paywall, I think.
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On Moon Knight, a lot of the CGI didn’t quite work.
Fair enough. If I am honest I genuinely don’t notice. Unless something goes full uncanny valley I only hear others complain about stuff that seems fine to me. I didn’t see anything wrong with the She Hulk trailer, she looked large and green and human to me.
It’s maybe just me but I don’t really see bad effects where others seem to hugely affected by it.
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Unless something goes full uncanny valley
I’ve never heard the phrase “uncanny valley” until this post, so I looked it up and, sure enough, it’s a thing. Proof that you’re never too old to learn. Thank you, Gar.
The uncanny valley is a common unsettling feeling people experience when androids (humanoid robots) and audio/visual simulations closely resemble humans in many respects but are not quite convincingly realistic.
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Yes, that is correct. Very surprisingly, Taiki Waititi’s second Thor movie is an action adventure comedy, just like his first Thor movie.
I think it looks fucking awesome. Also, this is the first I’ve seen of Gorr the Butcher, and he looks pretty cool.
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The latest checklist:
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The latest checklist:
So no new Marvel material for 2 months. They need to pick up the pace I’ve seen the rest.
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“fixing” might be a bit of a stretch… but I guess it looks slightly better, yeah…
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A fair question:
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It’s alright, but it could be gayer.
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