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Great… a PG13 Blade… can’t wait u_u
Blade was PG when I started reading comics. I don’t see a problem
That’s been my primary amusement with this R rated stuff. Rob Liefeld screamed Deadpool had to be R rated but his comics weren’t. It even took 5 or 6 years of Vertigo comics for them to allow the F-word so most of those are fairly PG-13.
I do think certain properties like The Boys demands it but nothing really from the Marvel and DC universes NEEDS to be R rated. I’m not necessarily that bothered if they do go down that road – I liked Logan and several Max and Black Label comics but a PG Blade is fine, like his comics have been. Just have a good story.
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That looks like a lot of fun.
I’d still love to see MODOK in the MCU though… Mike Carey wrote a great and creepy Ultimate MODOK in his Ultimate Vision mini-series. He’s basically an AIM scientist who keeps grafting bits of alien technology to his body until he undergoes a metamorphosis into a cyborg monstrosity. It’s gruesomely drawn by Brandon Peterson, and it has a really icky body-horror feel to it. I always thought it would fit quite well into the MCU as a more grounded take on one of Kirby’s weirder creations.
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He was supposed to show up in the final season of Agents of SHIELD, but they wouldn’t let them use him.
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nothing really from the Marvel and DC universes NEEDS to be R rated
A case could be made for The Punisher to warrant an R rating (or tougher), but it’s still a matter of how you interpret the character, what story is to be told and how you show that. If you’re going the Garth Ennis route and leaning heavily into the violent and morally bankrupt nature of both Castle and the criminal enterprises he faces, an R-rating could be needed.
On the other hand, Taken tackled some similar themes to the “Slavers” arc, and it was PG-13 (I think).
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It’s a little bit entertaining.
yea, but I don’t think people want to watch your little bit for 5 minutes or longer.
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You know, I’m glad they’re moving away from the current aesthetic of the MCU, but these costumes are a bit shit… they look like power rangers and don’t have any personality to them… pretty disappointing.
Also: Is the actress who played Sersi the first (and only) to double dip roles in the MCU? I have a feeling there’s someone else I’m forgetting…
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We counting Alfre Woodard being in both Captain America: Civil War and Luke Cage?
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that’s got to be fan art, right?
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T.I. Not Returning for ‘Ant-Man 3’
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Meh… we only need Michael Peña…
Absolutely.
Also:
On Monday, an attorney representing 11 alleged victims accused the couple of crimes including sexual abuse, forced ingestion of illegal narcotics, kidnapping, false imprisonment, intimidation, assault and harassment.
Like, Jesus.
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Hugh Jackman Asked Lee Daniels to Pitch a ‘Wolverine’ Movie to Fox. It Did Not Go Well.
Can you picture Lee Daniels directing a Wolverine movie? If you answered yes, congratulations, you have one more thing in common with Hugh Jackman. When Collider recently sat down with Daniels to discuss The United States vs. Billie Holiday, he told us about the time Jackman, having loved Daniels’ Oscar-winning Precious, got the filmmaker a meeting at Fox to pitch an X-Men story.
It…did not go well. Here’s what Daniels told us:
“A lot of actors call me. I remember after I did Precious, Hugh Jackman called and wanted me to do a Wolverine. And he sent me into the studio to Fox, I guess that’s where they do them at. And I had never done a studio film before and it was a disaster and I literally pulled over … Yeah, it was at Fox because I pulled over to the Kentucky Fried Chicken afterwards and ate a whole six-pack of wings. It was the worst meeting of my life. I don’t know how he gets Wolverine from Precious, but I love him and he’s a friend to this day.”
He continued: “I pitched. I pitched my way right out of the room.”
Obviously, I’m now dying to know the pitch, especially considering that timeline puts the meeting just a little after X-Men Origins: Wolverine, an entire mess of a movie. Alas, it’s another of a million Hollywood details lost to backrooms and board meetings. I’d say both Daniels and Wolverine turned out fine, though. Fox brought on James Mangold to make the pretty-great duo of The Wolverine and Logan while Daniels co-created Empire, the largest show in the world for quite some time. Alls well that ends well, and all that.
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‘The Falcon & The Winter Soldier’ Unveils Four Character Posters
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I’m not a fan of that wakanda-tech arm… I really like how his OG arm looks like, the more silvery one with the red star. Falcon looks like a million bucks though!
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‘Shang-Chi’ Star Simu Liu: ‘Anti-Asian Racism Is Very Real’ (Guest Column)
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/shang-chi-simu-liu-anti-asian-racism-1234928348/
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… the behind-the-scenes rumours
What are the behind-the-scenes rumours?
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Even if there are no movies in the near horizon, you’d think Marvel would want to keep her somewhat in the spot-light,
There have only been two MCU projects since she was last seen, and both of them featured teases for her next movie.
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… the behind-the-scenes rumours
What are the behind-the-scenes rumours?
They’re just like normal rumours but they’re from behind the scenes.
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What are the behind-the-scenes rumours?
The usual anti-Larson stuff… like how her coworkers don’t like her and such… but again, those are rumours at best.
The thing is, after the HUGE reception Wandavision had, and specially Elizbeth Olsen/SW, I’m sure some people at Marvel are already discussing her future at Marvel. As far as I can see she just got the reception they were probably hoping CM would get, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets bumped up to a more prominent role in the future… to the point that I’m sure Doc Strange will cross the billion now no problem because people WILL want to see more of her.
And again, I was expecting a bigger push for CM overall. But yeah, maybe they’re just laying the ground for expanding her entourage… I dunno…
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I think they did get the reception they were hoping for with Captain Marvel. It’s called “over a billion dollars”. I am pretty sure that in the face of that, Disney doesn’t care that the incel part of the comcis fanbase hates Larson, and that rumours of her being phased out is just wishful thinking.
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they’re gonna want to bump her up to MCU top billing status
That’s a completely meaningless phrase. Wanda doesn’t have her own movie franchise like Captain Marvel, so explain to me how she’d have “top billing” exactly.
Actually don’t bother – this is a bullshit conversation based entirely on silly conspiracy theories from misogyny mongers.
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That’s a completely unknowable factor, as nobody knows how many people watched WandaVision.
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Disney know how many people watched Wandavision, so it will be interesting to see how much they push Wanda after Dr Strange 2.
There’s not much point trying to draw comparisons between Wanda and Captain Marvel, though. One is heading up the cosmic side of the MCU, the other the mystical side of it (or at least coheadlining with Strange). It isn’t like they’re vying for the same screen time.
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True. It’s great that lots of people watched WandaVision and enjoyed it. But if there’s room for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Dr. Strange, and even Ant-Man franchises then there’s certainly enough room for Captain Marvel and Scarlett Witch franchises to co-exist and be successful. They’re pretty different characters with different journeys. No reason it has to be one or the other in Disney’s eyes.
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Is there some rule that says Marvel can’t have two different franchises led by women? Like, if they want to build up Wanda they therefore have to drop Carol because there’s a rule?
It wouldn’t surprise me. I mean, it’s stupid, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
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True. It’s great that lots of people watched WandaVision and enjoyed it. But if there’s room for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Dr. Strange, and even Ant-Man franchises then there’s certainly enough room for Captain Marvel and Scarlett Witch franchises to co-exist and be successful. They’re pretty different characters with different journeys. No reason it has to be one or the other in Disney’s eyes.
But if I create the idea of a conflict between these two female characters then I can get idiots to click on my YouTube channel and repeat my ideas as if they’re a legitimate analysis. There’s only so many times I can make a video claiming Kathleen Kennedy and Alex Kurtzman are on the verge of being fired, after all.
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My point is not that there isn’t room for two female franchises or more, clearly there is always room for more
My point was serious. I would not be at all surprised if execs at Marvel had exactly that mind set. “Why do we need a female-led franchise, we have one already.”
I’ve heard female bands say (and I have no reason to doubt them) that they have been told they won’t be considered for a festival bill because “We already have the female spot filled”. So it does happen.
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True. It’s great that lots of people watched WandaVision and enjoyed it. But if there’s room for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Dr. Strange, and even Ant-Man franchises then there’s certainly enough room for Captain Marvel and Scarlett Witch franchises to co-exist and be successful. They’re pretty different characters with different journeys. No reason it has to be one or the other in Disney’s eyes.
But if I create the idea of a conflict between these two female characters then I can get idiots to click on my YouTube channel and repeat my ideas as if they’re a legitimate analysis. There’s only so many times I can make a video claiming Kathleen Kennedy and Alex Kurtzman are on the verge of being fired, after all.
Yes my gigantic non-existent youtube channel… actually that’s a lie, I do have a youtube channel by virtue of having a youtube account I guess… but yeah man, I’m all about the clicks on my youtube channel xD
Ahhh… at least you make me chuckle.
I’d ask you what Kennedy or Kurtzman have to do with this, but I suppose you won’t answer, so whatevs… I’m sure you thought you had a point
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My point is not that there isn’t room for two female franchises or more, clearly there is always room for more
My point was serious. I would not be at all surprised if execs at Marvel had exactly that mind set. “Why do we need a female-led franchise, we have one already.”
I’ve heard female bands say (and I have no reason to doubt them) that they have been told they won’t be considered for a festival bill because “We already have the female spot filled”. So it does happen.
Oh I’m sure it’s happened a ton in the past and probably still happens too much today. But I also think that Disney has come to see that representation matters. Insomuch that they can make money off of it. I think properties like Black Panther, Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel helped show them that. Crazy Rich Asians probably helped in some respects get a movie like Shang-Chi greenlit. While the success of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel finally got a Black Widow movie off the ground.
As long as audiences show up to watch these movies, that’s all that the studio execs will care about. And it seems that they’ve finally started to realize that white men will go see action movies regardless of the race and gender of the cast as long as it entertains them. So if they have a rich catalogue of characters to choose from then why not try to also pull in women, black people, Asian people, etc.
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Alright… so here’s my point: If you have two characters, one of which got a lukewarm reception and the other one got a muuuuch better reception, why would you waste time and money pushing forward the one that people ain’t too keen on? I mean, sure, they can, and they most likely will, continue to try and make Carol Danvers happen, no reason not to… but wouldn’t it make more sense to go with what works? And hey, if CM2 comes out and it’s an undeniable success, great, they’ll have two amazing successes, but it’d be smarter to capitalize on Wanda and push her into a more prominent role NOW, because again, I don’t think CM will achieve what they’re going for
Captain Marvel was very successful. It made over a billion dollars. I’m sure they were very happy with it. The character has shown up prominently in other movies and recent teases are geared around the storyline set up by her movie.
Given all this, the claims that she received a lukewarm reception and that Disney is trying to play down the character don’t make much sense.
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meh, I guess we’ll see… If they’re smart, they’ll use Wanda as their premiere female SH going forward, and start using her more… it’ll be kind of hard to give her a movie when their slate is so full already, but that doesn’t mean they can’t write her into movies they weren’t planning to (like say Homecoming 3 or Antman 3).
The character has shown up prominently in other movies
I wouldn’t caracterize her rather small appearance in one other movie as “showing up prominently”, but then again I have no way of proving my claims that she’s got a lukewarm response beyond what I’ve seen… so…
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They don’t need to “make Carol happen”… she’s already happened. Just because there’s a section of “fandom” that doesn’t like her, doesn’t detract from the fact that as people keep pointing out, her movie made a billion dollars!
As for Marvel parting ways with the directors, so far that happened after Captain America, Thor (twice), Thor 2, Iron Man 2 – before the first Ant-man movie… Jesus, do I need to go on? There’s no big conspiracy, Marvel aren’t trying to hide anything… they’re just employing a different director.
It’s perfectly fine to not like the movie – I didn’t really care for it myself, and probably won’t bother seeing the second one in the theatre – same as I didn’t with the second Ant-man movie. But stop trying to make out they’re panicking and trying to course-correct because of some kind of non-existent failure. This is Marvel, not DC.
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But stop trying to make out they’re panicking and trying to course-correct because of some kind of non-existent failure. This is Marvel, not DC.
Well I’m glad I didn’t say that. Why do you keep bringing up a “section of a fandom”? Am I the multiple man or something?
Know what? Never mind… this is all in very bad faith, you bozos keep insisting on the idea that I’m somehow parroting something I heard somewhere else, and there’s only so many times I can say “I’m the one who had the thought”…
I’m sorry you guys keep seeing alt-right conspiracy theories everywhere, but your paranoia ain’t my problem and it’s gotten waaaay too old at this point (plus it’s quite disrespectful too, like I can’t generate a thought by myself or something)….
So yeah, bowing out. Toots!
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If you have a billion dollar movie and you don’t make a sequel then you’re doing movies wrong.
Wandavision just came out and they’ve already scheduled the next main appearance of her for the Dr Strange movie next spring. They do map their phases out in advance and Phase 4 wraps in 2023, so any Scarlet Witch movie wouldn’t be until 2024 at the earliest.
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you bozos
plus it’s quite disrespectful
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So yeah, bowing out
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True, Disney+ is a huge part of the business model now and they will always be looking for popular content to add to it. They seem to be trying out a lot of MCU properties for it this year and will no doubt bring back the most successful in some form or fashion (they couldn’t exactly do Wandavision again).
I suspect that the Young Avengers stuff is going to wind up as the main Marvel property for Disney+ but we shall see.
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Depending on how the identity and origin the MCU Kang plays out, there could be significant changes to the background of the character. The comic book character’s history is a total clusterfuck so I’m guessing they are going to simplify the hell out of it for the MCU.
They’ll have to change Teddy’s background too, since IIRC Mar-Vell is his father, and in the MCU, Mar-Vell is female.
If they really wanted to keep that connection, they could say there was some her genetic material preserved somewhere and was used to create a Skrull/Kree hybrid some years later.
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Depending on how the identity and origin the MCU Kang plays out, there could be significant changes to the background of the character. The comic book character’s history is a total clusterfuck so I’m guessing they are going to simplify the hell out of it for the MCU.
They’ll have to change Teddy’s background too, since IIRC Mar-Vell is his father, and in the MCU, Mar-Vell is female.
If they really wanted to keep that connection, they could say there was some her genetic material preserved somewhere and was used to create a Skrull/Kree hybrid some years later.
In the comics that’s the origin of Genis and Phyla, with Titan instead of Skrull.
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Tl/dr about the whole Captain Marvel thing. All I remember is how fanatical Jon got when the Captain Marvel movie came out.
Jon:
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There’s plenty of things they can do with the YA cast of characters. They could age up Tony’s daughter a bit and make her Iron Lass if they want. But there’s plenty of characters for them to choose from. But they can also make Kate Bishop and/or Cassie Lang the leaders since they’ll likely be the oldest members. Or as Todd mentioned, go with Avengers Initiative, Avengers Academy or even New Avengers as the branding if they want to avoid Young due to actors aging and whatnot.
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They could age up Tony’s daughter a bit and make her Iron Lass if they want.
They already have an Ironheart.
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Kingsley Ben-adir is not Ben Kingsley, bummer.. I was looking forward to the Mandarin being in Secret Invasion.
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If you’re putting a girl/woman in the armor, it really needs to be IRON MAIDEN, doesn’t it?
Wasn’t that Ultimate Black Widow’s codename when she had a suit of Stark armour?
Did it have spikes on the inside because Mark Millar is so EDGY!
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So it’s going to be good Skrulls and bad Skrulls? And it’s going to be a crossover thing with characters from the different TV shows and stuff?
No-one knows. They pretty much just announced the title and that Jackson and Mendelsohn would be in it. Everything else is just people theorizing based on the comic.
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So it’s going to be good Skrulls and bad Skrulls? And it’s going to be a crossover thing with characters from the different TV shows and stuff?
No-one knows. They pretty much just announced the title and that Jackson and Mendelsohn would be in it. Everything else is just people theorizing based on the comic.
Mephisto confirmed!
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Ed Norton was a Skrull all along!
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