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He wanted to change “HULK SMASH” to alright, alright, alright?
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He wanted to change “HULK SMASH” to alright, alright, alright?
ALRIGHT!!! ALRIGHT!!! ALRIGHT!!!
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WandaVision: Disney+’s First Marvel Series Gets January Premiere Date
Disney+ has announced that the first of its several live-action Marvel series, headlined by Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, will premiere on Friday, Jan. 15.
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Disney+ has announced that the first of its several live-action Marvel series, headlined by Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, will premiere on Friday, Jan. 15.
Cool! Can’t wait!
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I’ve been leveling up my Photoshop skills over the last year and a half and figured I would make a new image of @RahulKohli13 as Reed Richards from The Fantastic Four. Happy birthday good sir! pic.twitter.com/7NQQGOPdE4
— Phillip J. Woodward (@PhillJWoodward) November 14, 2020
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Not right for Reed
Why? he played a doctor on I Zombie so he can pull off scientific dialogue. He is a geek so he knows the background. He had a hot g/f on I Zombie so he can do the relationship thing.
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I something at Cracked today where someone suggested Patrick Wilson as Reed. I can see him in that role
As much as I want someone a bit more mature as Reed, I’d also like a teenage Johnny, and Patrick Wilson would probably be 50 by the time the first movie comes out, so I’d rather not see another creepy Hollywood age-gap between Reed and Sue.
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another creepy Hollywood age-gap
Age is just a number. Keep it to the relationship thread. ;)
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Age is just a number. Keep it to the relationship thread. ;)
I reserve the right to change my mind in order to suit the needs of any argument I might be making.
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I’d like to see somebody with some gravitas.
This seems to be quite a common fan-photoshop.
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Surely that’s REALLY leaning into the nerdy side of Reed, given his Doctor Who performance. Which I liked a lot at the time, but there’s no way I’d want him to play Reed.
I can’t really think of who I’d like to play Reed off the top of my head, but I haven’t liked any of the fan-casts I’ve seen – I just know who I don’t want to play him, and you can add John Krasinski to that list.
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Luckily, it’ll probably be somebody none of us know so that the first three-film deal is cheap and they can negotiate another one after that that doesn’t entirely go through the roof.
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IF they cast Matt Smith as Reed I will be very, very disappointed if they don’t cast Peter Capaldi as Doctor Doom.
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Looking through a list of actors in their 30’s, and these are my picks – none of whom are ideal, but all of whom could bring something to the role.:
Dan Stevens
Armie Hammer
Dev Patel
Jake Gyllenhaal (yeah, I know he’s Mysterio, but otherwise he’d be my pick for almost any part in any movie.)
Harry LloydIt will never happen but I want Dan Stevens to return as Legion and Harry Lloyd back as Prof X.
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Glenn Howerton as Reed
Kaitlin Olson as Sue
Rob McElhenney as Johnny
Charlie Day as Ben
Danny DeVito as Doom
It’s Always Fantastic in Philadelphia.
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Glenn Howerton as Reed
Kaitlin Olson as Sue
Rob McElhenney as Johnny
Charlie Day as Ben
Danny DeVito as Doom
It’s Always Fantastic in Philadelphia.
Charlie is Reed
Dee is Sue
Mac is Johnny
Frank is Ben
Dennis is Doom
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Deadpool 3 brings on Bob’s Burgers writers to pen script
Deadline reports that Disney is going ahead with a second sequel for Deadpool, one of the properties it picked up in the 21st Century Fox acquisition. Sisters Wendy Molyneux and Lizzie Molyneux-Loeglin (both of Bob’s Burgers) have been hired to write the screenplay, following a month of meetings with star Ryan Reynolds.
Love their episodes of Bob’s.
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Marvel’s ‘Black Panther’ Sequel Shoot to Begin in July (Exclusive)
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So, one current casting rumor is that Dan Stevens is being eyed to play Magneto in the MCU. Thoughts?
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So, one current casting rumor is that Dan Stevens is being eyed to play Magneto in the MCU. Thoughts?
While I’d rather Marvel find a way to bring him in as Legion, I would have no problem with him as Magneto.
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the classification of people into camps etc
If only Trump had gotten four more years, we could’ve updated Magneto for a long time. Pfft… This is why we can’t have nice things.
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WW2 wasn’t the only instance of people being segregated for who they are.
It’s probably the most pertinent with imagery like the tattoos though. For all the injustices in a place like Palestine it isn’t to that degree.
I don’t know, it just seems easier to me to find some age bending excuse in a world that is full of stuff like that than try and shoehorn in a new origin that will be less familiar to the audience.
It’s not as if any of that ages made any sense at all in the X-Men movies anyway once they started going back in time.
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My problem is that he’s too young. Magneto, IMO, should at least be in his fifties.
With the rate at which movie production happens, a 50-year-old could still be playing the part when he’s in his 70’s. And there are few things sadder than old men in action movies who we’re supposed to take seriously as a threat.
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And there are few things sadder than old men in action movies who we’re supposed to take seriously as a threat.
If your power is “point and it happens”, you can be any age with no loss of disbelief. It’s not like expecting us to believe a 70-year-old moves like Batman.
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There’s every chance that the mutant side of things comes out of the multiverse malarkey they’re lining up, at which point any linear timeline can be regarded as irrelevant.
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I’m not sure I buy that argument, as you could use the same logic to say that Captain America shouldn’t be the hero of WWII any more. I don’t think that the event has significantly less relevance just because it’s no longer in living memory.
Ultimately I think that shifting these real-world anchors to fictional ones lessens the appeal of the Marvel characters, which was always that their world felt that little bit closer to our own.
I think the movies show that you can shift certain less pivotal events on the sliding timescale (eg. Iron Man starting in Afghanistan) without it being a problem, but you can also preserve certain key historical links (Cap as the hero of WWII) without it posing a problem for audiences.
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as you could use the same logic to say that Captain America shouldn’t be the hero of WWII any more
No, I can’t because he’s supposed to be “man out of time”. It’s become part of his character in a lot of ways.
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Ultimately I think that shifting these real-world anchors to fictional ones lessens the appeal of the Marvel characters, which was always that their world felt that little bit closer to our own.
I think the movies show that you can shift certain less pivotal events on the sliding timescale (eg. Iron Man starting in Afghanistan) without it being a problem, but you can also preserve certain key historical links (Cap as the hero of WWII) without it posing a problem for audiences.
I agree with both of those statements. But I also think that de-aging, or time-shifting, is not something you can keep doing willy-nilly with all the Marvel characters, and it also depends on what you want to do with the character. Cap is a man out of time, that’s an integral part of his character. Magneto in the comics is an old-school revolutionary, but if you make him a mid-20th century character forever, he’ll lose some of his relevance to current audiences. This may be a character Marvel will want to update, depending on what they want to do with the X-Men overall – there are a lot of ways to go with this, but not everything works with either version of Magneto.
But if they do want to update him, using more recent genocide setting is a bit of a minefield. Sure, you could use Cambodia or Bosnia or Rwanda or Darfur, but the big advantage of the Holocaust as a character origin is that everybody knows what’s going on and everybody knows who the bad guys are.
When it comes to more recent events, you have to figure out a very complex and difficult history that may offend a lot of people if you get it wrong. The same goes for the character’s background that you now have to use – he will belong to a tribe or religion that once again you have to figure out properly or offend a lot of people – especially as Magneto is the villain. Using a fictional setting allows you to allude to any number of recent situations while avoiding that risk of getting it wrong.Like I said, maybe it’s a bit cheap to play it that safe and it’d be more relatable and relevant, as you say, to go with a real-life example. But this is a case in which I’d probably err on the side of caution and go fictional, if they do want to update him.
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And it’s a sliding scale and has to be considered case-by-case. I think Cap being a WWII veteran is probably a lot more important than Punisher being a Vietnam veteran, which is itself maybe a little more significant than Nick Fury being a WWII veteran himself. In the case of Punisher and Fury I think you can change those aspects without breaking the character, but I’m not sure that’s true of Cap.
I agree. With Cap, it’s important that he fought in the one war where everybody was sure that they were on the right side, in which you can still retrospectively see a moral clarity. For Frank, the opposite is just as important, but you can pretty much use any more recent war for that. But Cap has also always been in essence patriotic and all-American, and that’s why it was important to keep that background. A man out of time is the only way to make his simple, somewhat naive belief in the American Dream work these days.
For Magneto, I think he would work with a different background. The Holocaust background was perfect, but these days, it does have the disadvantage of removing him – and with that, all of the mutant struggle – from the everyday lives of the current audience. Or maybe if you keep it you could start off with him being a mythos for the current generation of mutants. Introduce him by way of “Magneto Was Right!” posters on kids’ bedroom walls, that kind of thing. But I don’t know if they want to retcon the MCU history that much when they introduce the mutants?
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At the end of the day, Magneto just needs to have a backstory that means he has seen the very worst of humanity and is therefore determined to not take any more of their crap. So, turn him into a massive Star Wars fan who went to see Phantom Menace on opening night and had his heart broken.
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So much potential for a Man of Steel joke. Such a waste.
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They don’t have the cancer thing in the movie version but they do have Brie Larsen looking exactly the same age in 1995 as in 2024 (or whenever the ‘5 years later’ is meant to be).
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I forgot we were talking about the movies.
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Nonsense! I still demand the Uncle Ben death trilogy to allow us to properly explore the storyline.
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the Uncle Ben death trilogy
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Nonsense! I still demand the Uncle Ben death trilogy to allow us to properly explore the storyline.
You sound like more of a Batman fan to me…
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Rumor: Alfred Molina Returns As Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 3
Rumor: Alfred Molina Returns As Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 3
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I don’t think being a WW2 holocaust survivor is Magneto’s signature character trait, nor should it be. His whole thing is about not being accepted (and therefore oppressed), first because he is of a different religion/ethnicity, and then also because he’s a mutant. Those two things can be literally transposed to anywhere/anytime it fits, or like Christian said, just invent a fictional event/place.
Shit, they could go ahead and tie Genosha to Magneto’s origin, in a bit of a twist. Genosha’s known for its mutant massacres, so that would be fitting… that way they could semi-adapt X-Tinction Agenda at the same time, so win/win.
worth retaining for as long as possible
That’s the thing though, it’s not longer possible. I mean, sure, they can in the CBs because of the endless ressurections and whatnot, but that’s a lame mechanism. Marvel & DC are gonna need to start thinking about updating some of their characters VERY soon.
In the case of Captain America, he does need to be tied to WW2, not because of the war itself, but because of that time he comes from which makes him a much different person with very different views and values that a modern one, but he isn’t a problem thanks to that handy cryofreeze.
Fury also gets a pass because he took a unique anti-aging serum, buuuut it’s not necessary, because his war of origin isn’t really all that important, he just needs to be a soldier, then a spook.
Punisher has already been moved forward a few times, so it’s a non-issue… the one thing that needs updating is who kills his familiy, because the “mafia” ain’t really a thing anymore, but replace “mafia” by “cartels” and you’re golden. Shit, the cartels are much better because they are waaay more violent and ruthless than the mob ever was.
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I’m going to click that but I kinda hope it’s just Letitia Wright followed by nine creative spellings of John David Washington.
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I suspect as usual with the MCU stuff they’ll take a lot of ‘inspiration’ from the comic without really adapting it.
Wandavision looks similar in that it’s clearly taking a lot from the Tom King series with the suburban domestic angle but telling a different story.
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This seems off-brand for Shuri; Letitia Wright shares anti-vaxx video on Twitter.
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Actors aren’t medical experts: who knew?
I am surprised, but only because I expect the social media accounts of high-profile people to be more smartly managed than this.
Other than that, though, I don’t think this deserves any more attention than anyone else posting something similar online. It only amplifies the message.
In the current context, I feel as though the media needs to quickly learn that, and not chase short-term hits by spreading misinformation.
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I think we can switch this debate to the pub really, as much as she’s been in a Marvel film this isn’t really Marvel movie news (and before Jon lynches me neither was the story about Elliot Page transitioning movie news).
I’d move it myself but the board doesn’t allow post moves between sub-forums so your co-operation is appreciated if you want to continue it to do it the regular news thread.
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It’s not a huge deal and I’m not telling anyone off but it’s just we have some people who prefer to venture only into the areas that don’t contain controversial topics and have a more escapist experience. Especially this year when people have been quite stressed by the news cycle.
So it’s not so much about being strictly on-topic, I go off on tangents as much as anyone, but more that if a story is most likely going to trigger debate on contentious issues like trans rights or anti-vaxxers – just a gentle request that they are best off in the pub.
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