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Where did that come from, Gar? Shame it ends at ’91. I’d be curious to know what the current figures are.
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Marvel promises 2021 “Rebirth” after Avengers “Enter the Phoenix” arc
What a refreshingly new idea…again.
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Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson (Empyre: Captain America) with art by Salvador Larroca (Doctor Doom), ALIEN #1 will be a thrilling addition to the incredible legacy that began with the groundbreaking 1979 film. Featuring both new and classic characters from Earth and beyond, this bold take on the Alien mythology will entertain both longtime fans and newcomers to the legendary horror/science-fiction saga.
The new story will feature a Weyland-Yutani mercenary named Gabriel Cruz as he battles a deadly new breed of xenomorph with the survival of his child hanging in the balance. No stranger to infusing horror with the classic Marvel storytelling, Phillip Kennedy Johnson most recently shocked readers in the terrifying MARVEL ZOMBIES: RESURRECTION series.
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Non- Stop Spider-man is delayed again,
Kinda defeats the purpose if Non-stop doesn’t even start
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No Wolverine #11 this month? Hope it ain’t cancelled. That’s one of my favourite books (never ever thought I’d be saying that out loud).
Non- Stop Spider-man is delayed again, I see. #1 is now coming out almost a year later than it was originally supposed to. If it wasn’t for this creative team I’d say don’t bother at this stage.
Doubt it, I think Marvel are using a system of skip months due to Covid so they’ve latitude to move stuff around if they need to.
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New “top-secret” Spider-Man costume to be revealed next week – GamesRadar
Want an early look? Click on the article and get an offer to sign up for GamesRadar’s newsletter, and accept their cookies, and some other thing about cookies (that must be okay to click Yes, because you’ve already clicked Yes to that other thing) and view an ad after every paragraph, and then the delayed pop-up about their newsletter (straight to my Inbox, you say?), and then some recommendations at the end, …
well, finally you realize you’ll still have to wait for next week.Ha! No need to take time out of your busy day to be one of the first to find out!
Sign up for their newsletter and you’re treated like one of the privileged few!
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Gamesradar is a disingenuous ad-filled shit show
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I use the Brave browser to look at ad-heavy websites. It blocks 99.9% of the ads.
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Gamesradar is a disingenuous ad-filled shit show
You say it’s filled with ads, but I guarantee that by this time next week they have found a space for an extra one.
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I use the Brave browser to look at ad-heavy websites. It blocks 99.9% of the ads.
At gamesradar, the “articles” are also just ads.
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Wow, our ripping the hell out of Gamesradar just keeps on running.
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Wow, our ripping the hell out of Gamesradar just keeps on running.
I saw an ad for that on Gamesradar.
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Wow, our ripping the hell out of Gamesradar just keeps on running.
I saw an ad for that on Gamesradar.
I tried to look at that, but an ad popped up and got in the way.
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Wow, our ripping the hell out of Gamesradar just keeps on running.
I saw an ad for that on Gamesradar.
I tried to look at that, but an ad popped up and got in the way.
That happens to me sometime, you need to make sure you have sound on to be able to hear some of the ads.
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New “top-secret” Spider-Man costume to be revealed next week – GamesRadar
Well that’s anti-climatic… xD
Soooooooooooo… another costume that’ll last a couple of months tops?
Jesus that’s ugly. Also, it looks a lot like some other spider-man costume we’ve already seen, I just can’t place which one it is though…
Edit: Nevermind, fount it… reversed colors, but very similar… that’s why it looked familiar =P
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Yikes
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Confusingly, the Spider-Man video game just released a similar-but-better alt costume, designed by Jamie McKelvie:
Oh I think I was away from twitter when the suit I designed for the Spider-Man game got released on PS4, so here's my design sheet pic.twitter.com/sMFvy8xvIz
— Jamie McKelvie (@McKelvie) December 28, 2020
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So they finally gave up on their really shitty SJW-inspired redesigns?? Who could’ve guessed…
Funny how a couple of years ago they weren’t touting “legendary comics pioneer Marie Severin’s classic, timeless & iconic Spider-Woman costume”… instead they were all like “eeww tight spandex and big boobs baaaaad”.
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Spider-Woman Goes Back to Basics This April
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I guess no one has read Hallum(Hopeless)’s SW book where he talks about Jessica dealing with the trauma of the internet reaction to her original uniform.
p.s. i did not even read the article so I don’t care about any justification about going back to that costume.
edit: they were not SJW designs, they were practical. Biker jacket because she was using a bike to get around.
They are just name dropping Marie Severin’s name because they think it will blunt outrage. It is an ugly costume that only appeals to men because of the tight fit and suggestive decorations.1 user thanked author for this post.
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edit: they were not SJW designs, they were practical. Biker jacket because she was using a bike to get around.
There’s nothing “practical” about that skin-tight leather suit either… it literally just hides the melon-y boobs.
I forgot, but they actually went back to a more sexualized look after that… but it was also bad, and kinda pointless if they were going back to the boobs-prominent one.
But hey, here’s a good exemple of how to unsexualize the costumes a littler bit, and thus no point to any of these new costumes which are either crap, or derivative like in the above example:
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I don’t see what was wrong with Jessica’s original costume which was as tight-fitting as Spider-Man’s…? Seems to me the problem isn’t the costume, which is a great design, but how some artists over-sexualized her.
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Exactly… I could just as easily draw an overly sexualized picture of spiderwoman in that “practical” costume and we’d be back to square one… that costume re-design was just a reactionary answer to the whole Milo Manara debacle a couple of years back.
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Seems to me the problem isn’t the costume, which is a great design, but how some artists over-sexualized her.
Absolutely. It was around that New Avengers Bendis launch time that they started drawing it super sexualised and then even hired Milo Manara to do a cover.
I don’t think there was any comment on it before then because it is basically the same spandex bodysuit most super characters wear.
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Interesting that Marvel are back to the old-fashioned 12-issue (oversized?) hardcovers for their X-Men line.
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Well, that’s a stupid idea.
Meanwhile it looks like Aaron’s Avengers is Bendis Avengers 2.0 – has to link into every big event, has no identity of its own.
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From the covers of the latest arc it looks like a bunch of Avengers are now Phoenix hosts….
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From the covers of the latest arc it looks like a bunch of Avengers are now Phoenix hosts….
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essica’s original costume which was as tight-fitting as Spider-Man’s
I’m sorry I don’t remember the giant arrow pointing at Spidey’s crotch, but to each their own.
edit: The Phoenix is holding a tournament to select the best host. That is why they all appear to be hosts.
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I’m sorry I don’t remember the giant arrow pointing at Spidey’s crotch
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That is an unaltered photo of someone in a Spider-Man costume.
But I wasn’t trying to make any serious point other than that Spidey literally does have a costume in the shape of a giant arrow pointing at his crotch.
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#MarvelHeroesReborn 2021 pic.twitter.com/G3Mvdl2VbL
— Marvel Entertainment (@Marvel) January 22, 2021
#MarvelHeroesReborn 2021 pic.twitter.com/cOmwc2jH2p
— C.B. Cebulski (@CBCebulski) January 22, 2021
#MarvelHeroesReborn 2021 pic.twitter.com/842tka37QV
— Spider-Man (@SpiderMan) January 22, 2021
#MarvelHeroesReborn 2021 pic.twitter.com/uCKJiv37NT
— Tom Brevoort (@TomBrevoort) January 22, 2021
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So did Marvel forget again they have a What If series for that kind of crap?
Pass… another re-hashed concept.
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Oh shit, then it’s just a Squadron Supreme re-launch?? great… u_u
Man, they should just throw some money bags at JMS and Gary Frank to finish Supreme Power…
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if you are looking for background on this story , look up issue #18 of Aaron’s Avengers. it is a War of the Realms tie in. The squadron also appear in Avengers #10.
Spoiler Alert: Being an AoS fan, i was not thrilled about one of the story points.
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I’ve been doing Venom on Marvel Unlimited. Looking forward to King in Black.
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That Rocket Raccoon is bad even by Liefeld standards.
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Well, at least his feet are better.
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I know it’s become fashionable to shit on Liefeld but I think those covers are fine, and certainly better than some of the phoned-in work you see from creators of his pedigree for stuff like this.
In terms of artists of that era I was always more of a McFarlane fan, but I’d be thrilled if he did a few new Spidey cover pieces (or whatever), so hopefully the Liefeld fans get a similar buzz from this.
Deadpool has been one of the creations of that era that has really stuck and Liefeld deserves some credit for that.
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Deadpool has been one of the creations of that era that has really stuck and Liefeld deserves some credit for that.
Does he though? He was just another generic dude-with guns under Liefield. It’s Joe Kelly and others who turned him into the fourth-wall-breaking Merc with a Mouth who’s so beloved (by some) these days.
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I said some, not all.
The look of Deadpool is definitely part of his success. But undeniably that characterisation is a big part of it too.
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This Liefeld bashing got boring years ago.
I’m not a big fan of his work and I never read his books when they came out, never mind now, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the art in those covers.
Liefeld created Deadpool, Domino and Cable. 3 characters who have remained popular to this day. Others have added to the foundations that he laid, but that is the case for every popular superhero character ever created.
A large part of why these characters have endured is because of the design of the character, the core of which still remains to this day.
Liefeld is a force of nature and whether we were fans or not, he was partially responsible for an era of comics which sold books in numbers we have never seen since and will never see again. Not my cup of tea, but hard to argue with the number of kids who were buying and loving the stuff, the buzz back then was incredible. It was the last big moment in comics before the internet became more popular and hipsters and cynics came in to shit on everyone’s parade.
Comics used to be for kids and Liefeld was a kid himself when he was doing a lot of this work. His enthusiasm is infectious and he’s done well to retain his personality for this length of time with the amount shit he’s taken.
A positive contribution to the industry that will be well remembered long after he is gone.
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but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the art in those covers
There is a lot of really bad anatomy, perspective, proportion and composition in all of those images.
This stuff is always going to be subjective, but the compositions all seem fine to me, there’s virtually no perspective to speak of as it’s pretty much all flat character pinup pieces with no backgrounds, and the proportions all look pretty much in line with what we’re used to in superhero comics.
Honestly I think if they were done by anyone but Liefeld, no-one would bat an eyelid.
I’m not a fan of Liefeld but I also feel like the criticism of his art can often be a bit knee-jerk: it’s Liefeld so it must be awful. I can recognise the attraction of his style without loving it myself.
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but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the art in those covers
There is a lot of really bad anatomy, perspective, proportion and composition in all of those images.
Yeah ive heard the same shit aimed at Jack Kirby as well.
They’re comic books.
And those tired old cliches that have been aimed at Liefeld’s work since the 90s are barely applicable in those images.
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This Liefeld bashing got boring years ago.
So did the Liefeld-defending.
Maybe there’s a reason for the bashing – that he’s bad at his job. If you enjoy his work, good for you. That doesn’t mean it’s good. He’s still an objectively bad artist.
Likening Liefeld to Kirby is just plain ignorant – Kirby’s distortions were abstractions, stylisations. Liefeld just can’t draw.
He also seems to be kind of an asshole – so unprofessional he caused Louise Simonson to quit the book he was writing because he was too much of a prima-donna to draw what he was paid to draw, and so bad at his job, even his best friends fired him from their company.
You seem incredibly dismissive of other people’s opinions. You did something similar in the movie forum a while ago regarding Geoff Johns, and frankly at this point you just seem kind of pompous.
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I agree that it’s in danger of becoming a tedious argument all round. Let’s move on.
I clocked this in the latest solicits and I’m still keen to see how this series goes:
I’ve been fairly light in my Marvel reading in recent years but getting talents like DWJ on board is a good way to catch my interest.
What are the other top books at Marvel at the moment? Any particular highlights to look out for? The more continuity-light and accessible the better.
(I love a lot of Marvel characters but wish there were some more standalone accessible series out there – something like DC’s Black Label.)
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From the last Marvel Previews there was actually a few Marvel comics in the solicits that interested me, after being out the loop the last couple of years other than on Immortal Hulk and the Ennis stuff.
Beta Ray Bill was one, because of DWJ. But the King in Black link put me off. I figure this will come out in hardcover, so I’m going wait and see what you have to say about it before I pick it up.
Alien # 1 I have pre-ordered.
I was a bit miffed that marvel got the rights to the Fox properties after Dark Horse doing a good job for so long, but tbh maybe the IP needs freshened up. I’m not 100% sold on the team of Phillip Kennedy Johnston and Salvador Larroca, particularly the latter, but I’ll give this a try.
Black Knight: Curse of the Ebony Blade is another 5 issue mini I have my eyes on, because Simon Spurrier is the writer and he has been on a great run recently. Again though the connection to the King in Black puts me off.
Demon Days X-Men is a 4 issue mini by Peaches Momoko, whose art is terrific and she has been a rising star in the industry because of her cover art. It will be really interesting to see what she does here. The return of the talented writer artist with DWJ on BRB plus this is something I’m really excited about.
Lastly i like he look of Avengers: Curse of the Man Thing which comes out for Man Things 50th (?) anniversary. I can’t remember who the artist is but the preview pages looked really nice. I like the character and it’s written by Steve Orlando who did some good work with DC’s lower tier/obscure characters/titles recently; bother Electric Warriors and Martian Manhunter were really good – I wonder if he can do the same here.
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Alien # 1 I have pre-ordered. I was a bit miffed that marvel got the rights to the Fox properties after Dark Horse doing a good job for so long, but tbh maybe the IP needs freshened up. I’m not 100% sold on the team of Phillip Kennedy Johnston and Salvador Larroca, particularly the latter, but I’ll give this a try.
I keep forgetting about this. I’ll be interested to know how it is. Last time I read Larroca’s stuff was on Iron Man with Fraction years ago, and it was fine but a bit stiff and felt a bit overly photo-referenced.
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Ah, I might give that a look, thanks. I remember Bachalo doing some great stuff on Spidey during the early Brand New Day era.
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Demon Days X-Men is a 4 issue mini by Peaches Momoko, whose art is terrific and she has been a rising star in the industry because of her cover art. It will be really interesting to see what she does here. The return of the talented writer artist with DWJ on BRB plus this is something I’m really excited about.
Has she really done interiors before? I think I’ve only seen her cover art. It’s a nice style but it’ll be interesting to see how the sequentials are.
I’m not actually sure. I only really know her for her covers, which always catch my eye in Previews.
There was about 4 preview pages of the sequentials for demon days in marvel previews and it was really nice.
i also ordered her variants from the same month on a couple of books I buy regularly, I can’t remember what, but it may have been on the new blade runner (I get the Sid Mead covers on the first series of BR) and something else
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