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My LCS barely gets any comics for the shelves these days. Most comics that come in are for people’s pull files, then there’s a big island of back issues in the middle of the store, five bookcases of trades and then the vast majority of their shelf space is toys.
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Apparently G.O.D.S. #1 is a triple sized comic for $9.99. That’s a pretty good deal, and I’m exactly the target market for this. Love Hickman’s stuff (I’m a 3W/3M subscriber) and this looks pretty cool. But, man, the launch of this book is a chuffing disaster as far as I’m concerned. Random single pages of prelude material throughout the last 2-3 months worth of Marvel titles. Fuck that. I’m not interested enough to chase down all these random issues of titles I do not buy for a single page of material on a brand new concept that may or may not be worth my time. Not happening. Sometimes they just can’t help shooting themselves in the foot
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Apparently G.O.D.S. #1 is a triple sized comic for $9.99. That’s a pretty good deal
I can understand this take in terms of a pure cost-per-page calculation, but at the same time I’m not sure retailers will be welcoming it.
Far fewer people with only casual interest are going to take a chance on a new #1 that costs $10 than would buy one for $4 or $5.
So again it feels like Marvel trying to make money out of the existing hardcore faithful, rather than reaching beyond that. Same as with Ultimate Invasion, which is quite a fun series but which has a massive barrier to entry with a #1 issue that costs $9.
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It’s original material. Not preview pages. Every page is different. There’s no indication that they will be reprinted in #1 (that would also be incredulous for anyone who did hunt down all these random early appearances). I suspect they will be included in a future collection, but that’s hardly conducive to buying the singles in the interim.
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It’s original material. Not preview pages. Every page is different. There’s no indication that they will be reprinted in #1 (that would also be incredulous for anyone who did hunt down all these random early appearances). I suspect they will be included in a future collection, but that’s hardly conducive to buying the singles in the interim.
I can see Marvel doing a #0 issue that collects the pages.
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Far fewer people with only casual interest are going to take a chance on a new #1 that costs $10 than would buy one for $4 or $5.
Agreed.
Erik Larsen’s upcoming Savage Dragon #267 will cost $9.99 for 100 pages of material; but that’s okay, since few “new” readers are going to start a book with issue #267, so it’s really just the Dragon die-hards (like me) who will be buying this issue. Retailers don’t have to feel obliged to buy extra issues of this one compared to a new Marvel #1.
If Marvel owned the Titanic, they’d be charging passengers for life-jackets, and extra if you want to sit in a lifeboat.
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https://aiptcomics.com/2023/09/20/ultimate-spider-man-hickman-checchetto/
Hickman and Marco Checchetto are doing an Ultimate Spider-Man book together next year.
Hickman on Spidey doesn’t feel like the best fit to me, but we’ll see.
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So long as Marvel don’t do something stupid, like say on pricing, it’s an interesting creative combination.
Issue #1 will be $12.99
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So long as Marvel don’t do something stupid, like say on pricing, it’s an interesting creative combination.
Issue #1 will be $12.99
I don’t think it will be that cheap.
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Marvel Solicitations for December
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How does Manga sell at an LCS?
Manga is actually an interesting example as the sales go through several models. They start at anthology, then collections which are generally cheap. My son bought 3 maxi volumes of One Piece in Forbidden Planet London for $20, a thousand pages for the cost of 100 pages of new US comics.
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Marvel Solicitations for January 2024
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Marvel Solicitations for February 2024
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Oh hell, yes:
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/get-fury-series-garth-ennis-jacen-burrows-punisher
Maybe Marvel will get smart and put this out as an OHC, with the Soviet mini from a few years back.
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It’s a shame that Parlov can’t illustrate this (due to illness) the same way he did Frank’s first tour and the Fury series. But, Burrows is a great substitute.
Interesting phrasing from Ennis about this potentially being his final Punisher story. He had such an incredible run with the character over the years.
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Marvel Solicitations for May
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All in for Marvel vs Vampires
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https://www.gamesradar.com/aliens-vs-avengers-hickman-marvel/
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Interesting, Hickman-Ribic, Avengers vs Aliens….
Issue #1 $7.99
I am at the point where, even on trade prices, with discount, Marvel are pricing me out of buying their stuff.
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That’s ridiculous.
The price or the concept?
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That’s ridiculous.
The price or the concept?
Yes.
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That’s ridiculous.
The price or the concept?
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Hickman & Capullo on Wolverine.
https://www.polygon.com/24159173/marvel-wolverine-revenge-greg-capullo-jonathan-hickman
Sounds like fun, and the art looks great.
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Marvel Solicitations for August 2024
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Who needs good writers and competent artists? Let’s give ’em new uniforms in order to create the illusion of change!!
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I have Tomb of Dracula and a few other series in Marvel’s Essentials format from years ago. That was when Marvel released huge black and white trades on cheaper paper. At the time, they were a cheaper alternative and collected some Bronze Age books that probably wouldn’t ever receive a collection.
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At the premiere, Liefeld learned he and his family were not invited to the afterparty, something he was accustomed to attending. He also felt snubbed by Disney brass, including Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige, whom he says was near him on the red carpet but did not acknowledge him.
“It was meant to embarrass, diminish, defeat me,” Liefeld said on his podcast of not gaining access to the afterparty.
And there was another apparent slight: Liefeld said he posed for professional photos with creatives on the Deadpool & Wolverine team, but later was told by his publicist that those photos were deleted. He believes they were only taken as a courtesy and not intended to be used, though other photos, featuring Liefeld alone as well as with his family, appeared as part of Disney’s Getty press portal from the event.
Scandalous how this man is being treated. Will nobody stand up to protest against the tortures he has to endure???!!!
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Wait. Really. This has confused me for years.
Of all the… its not bloody Dai Evans or John Smith. There are two significant Nathanial Richards in the 616. WT actual F
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(Sorry, it’s a Bleeding Cool Link.)
You think saying “sorry” absolves you from this sin, Todd? Think again.
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(Sorry, it’s a Bleeding Cool Link.)
You think saying “sorry” absolves you from this sin, Todd? Think again.
You misunderstand.
When I said “sorry”, I was actually saying “fuck you”.
;)
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Alternate link:
https://comicbookclublive.com/2025/10/08/marvels-ultimate-universe-to-end-in-2026/
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Wasn’t the problem with the Krakoan Age that Hickman left Marvel for a year or two to do comics via substack? Though I do recall Marvel saying something about extending the length of era as well?
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Wasn’t the problem with the Krakoan Age that Hickman left Marvel for a year or two to do comics via substack? Though I do recall Marvel saying something about extending the length of era as well?
No, they basically decided they wanted to deviate from Hickman’s initial plan and prolong the second act of the story indefinitely, and Hickman didn’t want to hang around longer than he had planned so had to turn it all over to other writers.
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I saw this on Facebook:
Ultimates writer Deniz Camp has released a statement on the end of the Ultimate Universe:
“Okay, the End of the Ultimate Universe (from my perspective):
It’s true that the original plan was not to “end” the universe. A lot of my run is setting up characters I hoped would go on past me, I think I’ve made that clear and obvious.
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John was ending his run at 24, that was always the case. He was done. Peach and Bryan were both ending their stories when the Maker got out as well. That was their decision. (according to what Iv’e been told/my interactions with them)
(And it makes sense. Think about it – Peach is writing and drawing every issue for 24 issues. That’s insane. She works like 20 hours a day on that book, no joke. She’s the hero of the line. She deserves a break, if she wants one).
Wolverine was only meant to be 12; then it got extended to 16. The other creators were offered more issues to run alongside Endgame, but they declined (I saw that happen).
The only person who planned on continuing was me.
Initially, still very early, those books were going to end as those creators left, and Ultimates would have continued and new books launched (I was pushing for Hawkeye, Guardians was discussed, etc). This was all very vague.
But then, Wil Moss came to me and said, hey, I think we’re going to end it. End it end it. This was a long time ago, at least a year before now I think, but I’d have to check.
Not because the books are “too woke” (if it were that, they’d interfere with the writing of it, which they haven’t) or because the main line is jealous (this is silly, money is money to them), but because everything seemed to be coming to a natural conclusion.
They felt that they had something special with the universe as it was, consistent creative visions that told their stories and had a clear beginning, middle and end. An accessible, creator-forward re-imagination of the Marvel Universe. A version of the neverendingstory that ended.
And that the purity of that vision, they though/think, could pay dividends for a long time after, if it didn’t overstay the welcome, dilute it, or fumble the ending.
Yes, I had plans for stuff coming after, continuing this world, and part of me was bummed about that, but in my heart I think I knew that they’d be “lesser”. Moreover, for me, the Ultimate Universe has been a place for TRYING new things in comics. Radical things.
Whether it’s the real time pacing, or the radical interventions of marvel characters, or the formal play that have characterized my run, that’s what excited me about the Ultimate Universe. Excites me still.
And this –really, truly ending the universe on a high note, having it be this contained thing, giving a story an END– that’s radical for big 2 comics! It’s something that, to the best of my knowledge, has never been done on this scale by Marvel or DC. That is exciting to me.
I hope it is exciting to you!
But I don’t mean to tell anyone how to feel about any of this. And I don’t want to speak for anyone. Perhaps I’ve been misinformed, or feelings have changed – I don’t know. But this is how it is from my perspective.”
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Is it known if post-Hickman Krakoa was what he had planned out?
Why we're not getting Hickman's ending: a semi-comprehensive account
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I saw this on Facebook:
Ultimates writer Deniz Camp has released a statement on the end of the Ultimate Universe:
“Okay, the End of the Ultimate Universe (from my perspective):
It’s true that the original plan was not to “end” the universe. A lot of my run is setting up characters I hoped would go on past me, I think I’ve made that clear and obvious.
BUT
John was ending his run at 24, that was always the case. He was done. Peach and Bryan were both ending their stories when the Maker got out as well. That was their decision. (according to what Iv’e been told/my interactions with them)
(And it makes sense. Think about it – Peach is writing and drawing every issue for 24 issues. That’s insane. She works like 20 hours a day on that book, no joke. She’s the hero of the line. She deserves a break, if she wants one).
Wolverine was only meant to be 12; then it got extended to 16. The other creators were offered more issues to run alongside Endgame, but they declined (I saw that happen).
The only person who planned on continuing was me.
Initially, still very early, those books were going to end as those creators left, and Ultimates would have continued and new books launched (I was pushing for Hawkeye, Guardians was discussed, etc). This was all very vague.
But then, Wil Moss came to me and said, hey, I think we’re going to end it. End it end it. This was a long time ago, at least a year before now I think, but I’d have to check.
Not because the books are “too woke” (if it were that, they’d interfere with the writing of it, which they haven’t) or because the main line is jealous (this is silly, money is money to them), but because everything seemed to be coming to a natural conclusion.
They felt that they had something special with the universe as it was, consistent creative visions that told their stories and had a clear beginning, middle and end. An accessible, creator-forward re-imagination of the Marvel Universe. A version of the neverendingstory that ended.
And that the purity of that vision, they though/think, could pay dividends for a long time after, if it didn’t overstay the welcome, dilute it, or fumble the ending.
Yes, I had plans for stuff coming after, continuing this world, and part of me was bummed about that, but in my heart I think I knew that they’d be “lesser”. Moreover, for me, the Ultimate Universe has been a place for TRYING new things in comics. Radical things.
Whether it’s the real time pacing, or the radical interventions of marvel characters, or the formal play that have characterized my run, that’s what excited me about the Ultimate Universe. Excites me still.
And this –really, truly ending the universe on a high note, having it be this contained thing, giving a story an END– that’s radical for big 2 comics! It’s something that, to the best of my knowledge, has never been done on this scale by Marvel or DC. That is exciting to me.
I hope it is exciting to you!
But I don’t mean to tell anyone how to feel about any of this. And I don’t want to speak for anyone. Perhaps I’ve been misinformed, or feelings have changed – I don’t know. But this is how it is from my perspective.”
I think it makes sense to end the Ultimate Universe; it’s really long outstayed its welcome. It got its second (or third) breath and they’re apparently doing some really good stuff there right now. But giving it an ending does complete it in a way, and keeping it open would diminish it after a certain point.
That being said, hey, I am sure they’ll revive it at some point or another, to get a really big event out of that. It’s how superhero comics work after all.
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https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/armageddon-assembles-marvel-comics-event-june-2026
Hard to get excited about this based on the description
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There is going to be some epic arseholery over this.
Marvel’s ‘Ultimate Endgame’ Blind Bags went from collectible to straight-up lottery ticket
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A total mess.
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