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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 (SPOILERS!)
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I saw it earlier and was surprised there was no thread! Just came to make one myself.
I really liked it. It had a decent balance of comedy and tragedy, with the latter being stronger. I’m not afraid to admit I welled up a bit with some of the scenes of Rocket’s backstory. Tying him and his Halfworld compatriots into the High Evolutionary and the Ani-Men was a really smart idea. I thought the HE worked well as a villain and had some great moments.
Adam was a bit perfunctory. I don’t care that they completely undercut any credibility and threat of the Sovereign, but he didn’t really add much until the end (and even then, not much). The rest of the team fared better and I liked how it tackled Gamora, not forcing her back into the role she had before, accepting that it’s ok she’s someone else now.
The direction was pretty good – that hallway fight was the best I’ve seen since Daredevil – although I thought it odd that the big moment of Groot saying something other than “I am Groot” was left to flounder completely in longshot, to the point that I could see people not realising it was even him (and I’m starting to doubt it was Vin Diesel and not Drax now). The film didn’t feel as strongly “playlisted” as the previous ones, apart from a couple of good moments, but I don’t think that’s necessarily an issue.
I like where it left the characters. It felt like a nice end to Gunn’s tenure with the team without being the end point for the characters entirely. Great to finally see the DnA era costumes on screen too.
It’ll be interesting to see how and where the characters are used going forward. There’s still life in them.
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I liked it a lot! Easily the best MCU movie since Endgame, though that’s not saying a lot.
It definitely feels like it’s from an earlier era, especially given the complete lack of any references to the wider universe, aside from a recap of the Thanos stuff, presumably for people who only watch the GotG movies. Not even a mention of their time with Thor.
I was warned about how grim and harrowing the Rocket origin parts were, though I didn’t realize how much of the movie that would be. It’s well done, if brutal in a way the rest of the movies aren’t.
I liked the High Evolutionary as a villain a lot, it’s good to have an antagonist who’s just a complete bastard. The actor was great too. I mostly know him from BBC drama The Split, this was a very different role.
Adam Warlock was fine, except that whenever he wasn’t onscreen I forgot he existed. It feels like he’s mostly in the film because he was teased at the end of Vol. 2, six years ago. Ditto the Ravagers, who are just glorified cameos. Good to see Molly Quinn in there.
Apparently the little girl Guardian at the end is supposed to be Phyla? Still annoyed she and Moondragon never showed up for real.
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It’ll be interesting to see how and where the characters are used going forward. There’s still life in them.
I think most of the actors are done though, I can’t see Gillan, Saldaña, or Batista coming back anytime soon. I guess Pratt will be in the next Avengers movies, but I’ve little interest in a non-Gunn version of the character.
The new version of the team could definitely show up in whatever project they decide to have Harry Styles’s Starfox show up in, though I doubt they have anything set yet.
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Apparently the little girl Guardian at the end is supposed to be Phyla?
Yeah, Rocket calls her that. I guess she’s the same kid in the wheel earlier? Would be a bit hard to tie her to Mar-Vell, I suppose, so genetic experiment alien is as good as anything else.
I think Batista has said he’s too old to do more with Drax, which is fair enough. I don’t know about the others.
I spent a while, after seeing the names in the opening, wondering where Michael Rosenbaum would show up. Then I remembered he’s Martinex. He did well out of basically two scenes and I think one line. I see Miley Cyrus didn’t do Mainframe this time and they couldn’t get Michelle Yeoh.
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I’ll add to enjoying it a lot. The run time maybe could have been reduced a little and some of the gags fell flat but it was a big improvement over volume 2 and I had a good time.
I went with my son who is 12, the golden age of everything, he rated it top 3 of all time films. It’s not just kids being easily pleased, it is a bit but 12 is a bit past that and he gave Super Mario a 7 out of 10 last week.
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It’s not just kids being easily pleased,
I’m definitely still in that phase with my son at the moment, who is a couple of years younger. He watched the first Nic Cage Ghost Rider a few weeks ago and immediately declared it one of the best films ever.
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I liked the High Evolutionary as a villain a lot, it’s good to have an antagonist who’s just a complete bastard. The actor was great too. I mostly know him from BBC drama The Split, this was a very different role.
He was in Gunn’s Peacemaker TV series, too, and he’s absolutely fucking great in it. Very different kind of performance; very held back.
Yeah, I thought it was awesome. I liked that Quill wasn’t the protagonist anymore, that it was Rocket’s story now – and everybody’s really. Like Martin, I choked up a bit in the Rocket memory parts (Jesus, those play your emotions like a fiddle, don’t they, with the sweet hideous wonderful creepy creatures). Thought Warlock was fine, just too little of him. Liked all of the dynamics, and where they left the characters in the end. Also, great mixture of laugh-out-loud fun (Nathan Fillion!), colourful beautiful action, and melodrama. And it ended in the way it had to, with everybody dancing. That ending also almost made me cry.
So, yeah, everything I’d hoped it would be. Great goodbye from Gunn to the Marvel universe, too.
I think most of the actors are done though, I can’t see Gillan, Saldaña, or Batista coming back anytime soon. I guess Pratt will be in the next Avengers movies, but I’ve little interest in a non-Gunn version of the character.
I think they also left all of those characters in a place that should or at least could end their stories. Drax more so than Nebula or Gamorra, but this would be a good ending for either of them, as well.
And the New Guardians team after all consists of Rocket, Kraglin, Groot, Cosmo, Warlock, and apparently Phyla. I am sure they could get all of those actors ;)
I kinda hope they do make a movie with that team. Let Taika take over, or someone else who can do hilarious and violent and sweet.
I doubt it’ll happen, but it’d be cool if it did.Did they hint at a Starlord solo movie at the end there or was that just a gag? It’d be interesting if they went for that, but with that one it’d be even harder to imagine anyone but Gunn doing it.
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That was the best Marvel movie post-Endgame and definitely a top five overall.
It had a great balance of humor and seriousness. The Rocket plot was handled extremely well.
I really enjoyed it.
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Like Martin, I choked up a bit in the Rocket memory parts
I heard a great comment that going into Guardians people were doubtful they could pull off a talking racoon character. At the end of a trilogy the audience are in tears at him hugging an otter with kitchen utensils for arms.
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Saw it again, and cried a bit more this time. My partner didn’t like it much though, she was expecting something lighter and the whole animal experiments theme was too much for her (she does love the Guardians generally though).
One thing I noticed the second time around was that the very first line in the movie is Mantis asking Drax to dance and him replying that dancing is for idiots, and that the very last thing that happens at the end is Drax starting to dance.
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Speaking of the animal experiments and stuff, we were at an afternoon showing and there were like ten-year-olds in the audience. Now I know most of you guys here are more relaxed when it comes to this kind of stuff than I am, but this is a movie in which there’s plenty of blood and gore (even if that gore mostly belongs to cyborg pigs and the like), there’s cute animals being tortured, mutilated and killed, and you get to see a guy whose face has been ripped off. I’d say this movie has earned its PG-13 rating, and it’s generally just too intense for younger kids. (Obviously Gar’s 12-year-old enjoyed it well enough, but I’d rather err on the side of caution when it comes to these things.)
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Speaking of the animal experiments and stuff, we were at an afternoon showing and there were like ten-year-olds in the audience. Now I know most of you guys here are more relaxed when it comes to this kind of stuff than I am, but this is a movie in which there’s plenty of blood and gore (even if that gore mostly belongs to cyborg pigs and the like), there’s cute animals being tortured, mutilated and killed, and you get to see a guy whose face has been ripped off. I’d say this movie has earned its PG-13 rating, and it’s generally just too intense for younger kids. (Obviously Gar’s 12-year-old enjoyed it well enough, but I’d rather err on the side of caution when it comes to these things.)
Kids are different but I will repeat my refrain that the PG-13 rating is bullshit. Its range is too large and is not helpful to parents. Paddington and non gory horror gets the same rating.
My 12 year old son is a very happy go lucky kind of kid who likes to quip to adults, compared to his shy and quiet older sister, however horror stuff does give him nightmares so I veer away from that. I would advise in that respect to look at the excellent BBFC website, where they specify why a film has been rated as it has.
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As to kids being different – yeah, they absolutely are, but even then I wouldn’t want a kid to get desensitised to violence, horror and emotional punches too early.
100%. With ratings being too broad it is up to you to assess. My boy has a limited tolerance for spooky horror (which his best pal loves) and I adjust accordingly.
Yeah, absolutely. It’s also weird that there’s a jump from 12/13 to 17/18 (depending on the system) with nothing in between
I think the UK system of a lot more levels, U, PG and 12 and 15 and 18 is better but it is constrained by the main studios following the MPAA model as their biggest market, it leads them to adopt a lot of the same standards. Many of which are illogical to me, I have never understood the one ‘fuck’ rule for PG-13. Either you are happy with a kid being exposed to that word or not, hearing it once or 17 times makes no difference to me.
Imagine a rule of one cock a film or one pair of tits. It makes no sense, either you are happy to have them seen or not.
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