Ghostbusters Afterlife unofficial SPOILER thread

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Figured this might warrant its own thread. Or it might not. Who knows.

Anyway, out today in the UK and I saw it this afternoon. Overall, I’d say it’s pretty good.

Spoilers below.

It sort of does the opposite of Ghostbusters 2 in a lot of ways. Where that copied a lot of the general story beats with a different plot, this essentially rehashes part of the core plot from the first movie into a new story, right down to people becoming Terror Dogs to summon Gozer with sex. That does make it a little unsatisfying toward then end when basically it all boils down to Gozer, only in weird Euro-model form, as the world ending threat. It feels a little like it needed to go a step beyond that or have it go somewhere new, but it doesn’t particularly.

The other difference to GB2 is musically. GB2 dropped all the Bernstein score from the original and went all in for of-the-moment pop music. This does the opposite and spends most of its time playing around with Bernstein with little other music. It’s consciously playing around with the history of the series.

Overall, the film generally gets the balance right on the legacy of its predecessors. I had tempered my expectations a little because some of the bits in the trailers of the trap and Ecto 1 being found made me worry it was going to be too reverent of the originals. But it’s not really. Paul Rudd’s character is the only one who really knows/cares much about the Ghostbusters. It’s really more about character, about Phoebe finding a part of herself in learning about her grandfather and that worked for me. I thought Phoebe was great, Podcast too, and they were characters that easily could have turned out terribly. The brother and his love interest felt less successful and a bit sketched in, but they worked well enough. I’m not convinced the timeline works right for Egon having grandkids- it really seems to rely on him having an unmentioned secret family through at least GB2 and possibly the original, which is a bit of a stretch. To be honest, it doesn’t feel like a choice anyone would have made for Egon if not for Ramis’s death.

And speaking of Egon, there’s CGI ghost Harold Ramis, which… is a little creepy, I’ll be honest. I guess if his family is ok with it, I’m on board and it’s kind of inescapable given the story and the franchise, but it did feel a slightly dodgy move. I think keeping him silent added to that. Would it have been less respectful to have Maurice LeMarche come in and at least do one line at the end? I don’t know.

It feels like they’ve left the door open for more sequels – without this one feeling incomplete – and I think if they kept the same production team I’d be up for that.

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  • #78993

    Oof, compared unfavourably to Exorcist II, a film Kermode once said “is demonstrably the worst film ever made.”

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  • #79009

    I’ve not listened to Kermode’s review (yet. Maybe) but there does seem to be a lot of Very Serious Film Critics trying to outdo each other in how much they can tear down the film and it seems a little excessive, frankly. I can see why someone might not have enjoyed it, but I think it’s far from deserving of a complete slating. With a few of the reviews I’ve seen, it feels like lingering resentment about all the shit the Feig film had to deal with being aggressively taken out of Afterlife.

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  • #79031

    I normally like Kermode but that’s one of his flimsiest reviews that I’ve ever heard. It seems to be mostly baggage about the 2016 reboot not going down well. Plus I’m not sure I trust anyone who begins the review from the standpoint that actually the original Ghostbusters wasn’t that good in the first place.

    Still not sure about Afterlife but his review hasn’t really swayed me either way.

  • #87048

    Got caught up on this one, long after everyone else has forgotten about it. What an odd movie. It seems like it wants to be a fresh take on the Ghostbusters using a bunch of teenagers as the main characters to appeal to a younger audience and pave the way for sequels. Nothing at all wrong with that approach but then they bogged it down with so much nostalgia and sacred text reverence for the original movies that it is hard to imagine how any younger audience could possibly care. Meanwhile, fans of the original movies are likely going to not be particularly interested in watching a teenage adventure movie and quite possibly just bored with the Force Awakening ‘member berries strewn throughout. Not to mention that the film itself is really rather dull and completely lacking in laughs, even from Paul Rudd (whose continued inability to age like a regular human being is the greatest supernatural concern here).

    A mess.

    Also, it did irritate me how they tried to explain Egon’s isolation from the original Ghostbusters. I could see Peter and Winston going their own ways but if Egon kept warning Ray about some big Twinkie of trouble coming up then Ray would absolutely have been right there with him. Surprised that Dan Aykroyd went along with that characterisation.

    One positive was McKenna Grace. She put in a great performance amid a very confused film. The running gag of her bad jokes won me over in the end.

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