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Anyone down for a group watch tonight?

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Martin Smith wrote:

Just looking at an article about this and I’m amazed how low the voting numbers are. I was doing calculations on the back of a (metaphorical) fag packet the morning after and assumed you’d have maybe 2 million votes in one country, but there were only 142,688 votes in Spain. You’d need only a trivial number of people/devices voting 20 times each to swing that.

A group of right-wing authors had been running a grievance campaign over what they saw as the ilfiltration of the literary SF scene by queer people for a few years, and in 2015 they managed to get enough people to fork out for a Worldcon supporting ticket to overwhelm the relatively smaller number of regular voters in the Hugo award nominations by voting in a bloc.  It lead to a massive upswing in people voting for the actual awards and locking the grievance campaign out due to the different voting method used for the awards vs the nominations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

From wiki about the name of the campaign:

a joke attributing puppy sadness to “boring message-fic winning awards”

These people always have to be the most obnoxious fuckers you can imagine, don’t they. Sigh.

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Oh yeah, when Brad Torgerson went on about how he didn’t like modern SF because of the social message, and why can’t it be more like, say Star Trek, people rightly pushed back on the whole thing, citing Gene Roddenberry talking about how the show was explicitly about being essentially, message-fic.  His response:  Trek is different because the issues it dealt with were resolved.

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Todd