Doctor Who – What The Flux?

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I remember when 2020 seemed a long way away!

Hope we get some news soon on exactly when this is coming.

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Ben wrote:

Dave, what the fuck did we do to you to have deserved the inflicting of a Daily Express article?

Lockdown is getting to him.

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Ben wrote:

Dave, what the fuck did we do to you to have deserved the inflicting of a Daily Express article?

To defend Dave:

a) he was mocking it.

b) screenshot, so no clicks and revenue.

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Todd

I’ve been going through some old VHS tapes this weekend, on the off chance they contain something interesting (no real luck so far). The one I’ve just done had some 90s episodes of Emmerdale on it and I let the credits play on one to get an accurate date.

I hadn’t realised that Emmerdale in 1998 was such a refuge for Doctor Who writers. The storyline writers credited are Rebecca Levene (the editor of the New Adventures novels) and Lance Parkin (who wrote some of the best 8th Doctor novels) while the script editor is Gareth Roberts (who wrote The Shakespeare Code among other TV eps and various 90s novels).

It’s not enough to make me go back and watch the episodes, mind.

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Martin Smith wrote:

I’ve been going through some old VHS tapes this weekend, on the off chance they contain something interesting (no real luck so far). The one I’ve just done had some 90s episodes of Emmerdale on it and I let the credits play on one to get an accurate date.

I hadn’t realised that Emmerdale in 1998 was such a refuge for Doctor Who writers. The storyline writers credited are Rebecca Levene (the editor of the New Adventures novels) and Lance Parkin (who wrote some of the best 8th Doctor novels) while the script editor is Gareth Roberts (who wrote The Shakespeare Code among other TV eps and various 90s novels).

It’s not enough to make me go back and watch the episodes, mind.

A lot of Who writers crossed over with soaps in the 80s and 90s, IIRC.  There’s more than a few who worked on Corrie or Eastenders too.

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Martin Smith

Looks like Eccleston is back as the Doctor for some Big Finish audios.

https://www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=christopher-eccleston-big-finish

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Ben

That should be quite interesting. Hopefully it won’t get too bogged down in doing the standards. Though I say knowing I yearn deeply for an 8th/9th crossover story. And maybe a Benny-9th meeting.

Holy fuck, they pulled it off!

Bugger, another box set to pre-buy.

Martin Smith wrote:

That should be quite interesting. Hopefully it won’t get too bogged down in doing the standards. Though I say knowing I yearn deeply for an 8th/9th crossover story. And maybe a Benny-9th meeting.

Both of those could happen with Big Finish, they’re doing a few crossovers this year too.

Will Billie be involved in the Eccleston Big Finish stories? Or will they be set before “Rose?”

It’s always been in my head canon that the Ninth Doctor had to clean up a lot after the Time War, which is why Clive had all of those photos of Nine at historical events like the JFK assassination and aboard the Titanic.

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Ben

It’s a weird one. That look he gives himself early on in ‘Rose’ suggests he’s fresh from regeneration, and ‘Day of the Doctor’ leaves the War Doctor in a place where he could go straight to ‘Rose’ from there.

But I guess Eccleston’s Doctor could have easily have popped out and done all that past stuff midway through ‘Rose’, maybe after he leaves at the end for the first time.

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Ben wrote:

Holy fuck, they pulled it off!

I’m quite happy really because I think CE has been harshly treated by a subset of fans. From all he’s actually said he always cherished the chance to play The Doctor but didn’t enjoy the behind the scenes experience, which is hard to argue with if you weren’t there and aren’t him. Probably made worse by the fact that Tennant and Capaldi were massive fanboys.

I think there’s often an element of irrationality in hardcore fans because it means so much to them that if it isn’t the focus of everything someone does they take personal offence. It reminds me a bit of some comics fans when Alan Moore moved away from superhero stuff, it became ‘he hates superheroes’ despite plenty of video and audio evidence of him eulogising about them. I think that kind of thinking prompted the ‘he hates Doctor Who’ narrative.

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Jason wrote:

Will Billie be involved in the Eccleston Big Finish stories? Or will they be set before “Rose?”

Could be both.  Piper’s done work with Big Finish, both with Tennant and for her own box set of adventures and the marketing appeal of getting the two back together would be obvious, but can see them also doing solo stories too.

garjones wrote:

I’m quite happy really because I think CE has been harshly treated by a subset of fans. From all he’s actually said he always cherished the chance to play The Doctor but didn’t enjoy the behind the scenes experience, which is hard to argue with if you weren’t there and aren’t him.

I hadn’t heard about fan dislike.  I know Eccleston was critical of management which I think is part of this.  It’s years later, different people running things and Big Finish seem to have one hell of a positive rep.  They also look to have handled the pandemic well, in terms of looking after their staff  and collaborators, which likely counts for something in Eccleston’s eyes.

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Ben wrote:

I hadn’t heard about fan dislike

I’ve seen some of the kind of thing Gar is talking about, that slightly entitled insistence that Eccleston should come back for reunion stories (or whatever) because the character is bigger than he is and he owes the fans etc etc.

I think it’s partly the problem with getting someone who was a big established actor beforehand, their life and career is always going to be about more than just the Doctor.

But in Eccleston’s case it actually seems like he’s been very open to a continuing relationship with the fandom, I’ve never heard him criticise that side, it’s just that he (understandably) didn’t want to return to the role after his working experiences.

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Ben wrote:

I hadn’t heard about fan dislike.

I am both impressed and astounded you avoided it, he was like Whovian Anti-Christ for a few years.

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lorcan_nagle

I didn’t know about the fan dislike either. I thought it was more the case that viewers were disappointed he only did the one series.

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lorcan_nagle

I tend to stick to certain spots of the internet, you and Dave get to hit the ‘here be Dragons’ parts.

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lorcan_nagle

Literally the first post after the announcement Eccleston was doing Big Finish on one of the other (lesser) boards I frequent. The entitled fan-hate is definitely real.

And totally unjustified. His reluctance to talk about why he quit (and that he then went to work on stuff like Heroes and GI Joe) I think agitated a lot of people and left space for conjecture and conspiracy, but it really seemed to be out of respect for the show and not causing a scandal. But he’s always been good to fans, as far as I’ve seen. Hell, he helped some guy propose to his girlfriend by being in character as the Doctor in a pub once, so it’s not like he’s been stand-offish about it all. I also remember my mum showing me the letters page from a knitting magazine around 06 or so where he’d been roped into a photo by some old woman who had knitted a jumper with his face on and got him to very bemusedly pose with it.

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Wow, some people need to get their priorities straight.

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Ben wrote:

Wow, some people need to get their priorities straight.

This is the motto of the internet

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[Ben]

Somewhere else, there’s these crazy threads on Rey and Kylo, walls of text as far as the eye can see.

I’m not much of a fan of the Sequels but I’ve other things to be doing that I care about more.

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lorcan_nagle wrote:

This is the motto of the internet

What’s the motto of Ireland?

“Feck!” ?

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DavidM, lorcan_nagle

Drink!

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Anonymous wrote:

lorcan_nagle wrote:

This is the motto of the internet

What’s the motto of Ireland?

“Feck!” ?

Ah sure it’ll be grand in the morning.

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DavidM

Yeah, just this morning, says I, “It’ll be grand so.”

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Oh, and, my advice – maybe it’s an Irish thing – never put your hand over a half-empty cup of tea in the vicinity of an over-enthusiastically hospitable teapot pourer. That said, for now, only temporarily, teapots belong to the Time Before.

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Arse?

NUNS!

garjones wrote:

Ben wrote:

I hadn’t heard about fan dislike.

I am both impressed and astounded you avoided it, he was like Whovian Anti-Christ for a few years.

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t know about the fan dislike either. I thought it was more the case that viewers were disappointed he only did the one series.

Thirded. The way of most “fan” “outrage” seems to be that it’s such a tiny number of people that you have to work quite hard to find them. And they are far outnumbered by the people who have found them and are now magnifying their importance by being outraged at them.

DavidM wrote:

Thirded. The way of most “fan” “outrage” seems to be that it’s such a tiny number of people that you have to work quite hard to find them.

Not really in this case, the fan dissatisfaction and backlash has been referred to in countless interviews and news pieces around Eccleston that I’ve read over the years.

I’m not involved in Doctor Who fandom but I’m still aware of this stuff just through general interest in the show.

Ok, fair enough. In that case, it’s probably the exact reverse of what I said — it’s actually me in the minority of being disinterested in reading news about and interviews with actors that leaves me in ignorance

 

 

To be fair David if a person doesn’t read any articles or interviews, or look at the fandom stuff, then they aren’t going to know anything other than what the BBC broadcast. It’s unlikely the continuity announcer is going to trail a repeat of Rose with ‘starring Christopher Ecclestone – who a lot of fans hate for leaving the show and not being a proper fan by the way’. 😂

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Be great if they did though.

“Next we have tonight’s episode of Sherlock, starring that wanker and the hobbit guy from The Office.”

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That reminds me now of the opinionated continuity announcer character that was on the Victoria Wood show.

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Dave wrote:

Be great if they did though.

“Next we have tonight’s episode of Sherlock, starring that wanker and the hobbit guy from The Office.”

I’d much rather have that than continuity announcers who feel they’re obligated to make limp, tenuous jokes.

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Martin Smith wrote:

Dave wrote:

Be great if they did though.

“Next we have tonight’s episode of Sherlock, starring that wanker and the hobbit guy from The Office.”

I’d much rather have that than continuity announcers who feel they’re obligated to make limp, tenuous jokes.

The worst one I ever saw was over the end of an episode of Spaced where he tried to do a Yoda voice, messed it up and had to shamefacedly apologise, all in about 15 seconds.

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The Mirror is reporting that the next series of Doctor Who will only be eight episodes.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-whos-new-series-less-22994454

(Yes, it can sometimes be an unreliable tabloid, but this story has quotes direct from Chibnall.)

Jodie Whittaker’s third series as the Doctor will run to just eight episodes – after three were dropped because of Covid-19.

The 13 series has started its 10-month shoot and is expected to air late next year.

But several episodes have been shelved because the new safety regulations means that each instalment is taking longer than usual to film.

Showrunner Chris Chibnall told the Mirror he was “thrilled” to be able to make the show at all. “In this strangest of years, the Doctor Who production team have worked wonders to get the show back into production,” he explained.

“Given the complexity of making Doctor Who, and with new and rigorous Covid working protocols, it’s going to take us a little longer to film each episode, meaning we expect to end up with eight episodes, rather than the usual eleven.

“But rest assured, the ambition, humour, fun and scares you expect from Doctor Who will all still be firmly in place. For everyone around the world, this is a challenging period — but the Doctor never shirks from a challenge.”

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I only just heard about this yesterday but apparently it’s already hard to find on thshelves and going for silly money on ebay.

Mail call…! THE DALEKS, out now from Panini as a softcover bookazine, reprints the full run of the Daleks strip that originally ran on the back page of TV CENTURY 21 comic for its first 104 issues. Written mostly by Doctor Who script editor David Whitaker (with input from Alan Fennel and Dalek creator Terry Nation), the strip is adorned with stunning, painted artwork by Richard Jennings, Eric Eden and Ron Turner. Jennings drew the strip for the first year or so, Eden stepped in to illustrate a story, and then Turner took over until the end of the run.

The storyline begins with the creation of the Daleks (very different to the later TV origin depicted in “Genesis of the Daleks”), and then shows how the evil creatures gained the power of space travel and began their mission of galactic conquest – before ultimately setting their sights on Earth! It’s clear that Whitaker intended the final strip story to lead into the second Dalek tv serial, “The Dalek Invasion of Earth”. It’s all good, solid storytelling and a lot of fun. Beautifully illustrated by the three artists. For this edition many of the original artboards have been tracked down and scanned, with any gaps being filled in with digitally restored scans from TV21. All in all, a brilliant volume, well worth tracking down. Available in newsagents and supermarkets in the UK. Diamond will be carrying it in the US. Digital edition is available from PocketMags.

Cover by Mike Collins

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This is a bit of a surprise.

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Todd

random thought: who is the woman behind Roberts and why do we care what she looks like considering this is a radio drama?

Rocket wrote:

random thought: who is the woman behind Roberts and why do we care what she looks like considering this is a radio drama?

Well the actress is Chase Masterson, who is moderately famous in cult sci-fi circles (for being on Star Trek) and I think has a recurring character in Big Finish Who. And we care what she looks like insofar as to have her on the cover because Big Finish always tends to put the lead actors on the cover of the CDs now and why shouldn’t they?

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Say what you will about Big Finish, but it’s a pretty big coup to get David Dickinson playing the Master.

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Martin Smith

New Year’s Day again.

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lorcan_nagle

I see Chibnall continues to regurgitate other people’s stories. Admittedly this is just a trailer, but it looks to have large chunks of the plot of Victory of the Daleks.

Ah, so it’s still Chibnal, yeah?

No Doctor Who for me then.

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Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole to exit Doctor Who after the upcoming New Year’s special

I’ll miss Walsh, but they never figured out anything to do with Cole.

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Dave

He rode a bike once and, uh… yeah, not sure what else.

Walsh has been good but I definitely think they’ve kept the right companion.

I wonder if there will be replacement sub-companions or if this is a tacit acknowledgement that they haven’t made the extended crew work as well as they’d hoped.

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Dave wrote:

I definitely think they’ve kept the right companion.

Have they though? Admittedly I haven’t seen all the episodes of the last series, but thingummy (how terrible is it that I still can’t remember their names all the time? I’d have gone and looked it up for this, but I want to make the point) that they’re keeping was as weak as Ryan. Worse really, because she seems to be there to mainly to say something obvious that makes every sci-fi world they enter seem really mundane just so no dullards in the audience get left behind. She certainly never feels like a police officer.

Walsh is the best actor of the group, though I wouldn’t say his character necessarily worked either.

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Have they though? Admittedly I haven’t seen all the episodes of the last series, but thingummy (how terrible is it that I still can’t remember their names all the time? I’d have gone and looked it up for this, but I want to make the point) that they’re keeping was as weak as Ryan. Worse really, because she seems to be there to mainly to say something obvious that makes every sci-fi world they enter seem really mundane just so no dullards in the audience get left behind. She certainly never feels like a police officer.

Watching it with my daughter she really connected with Yaz and identified with her, so I guess I see it through her eyes a little bit. She laughs at Graham and feels a connection with Yaz, but there’s nothing there with Cole’s character.

Personally I think Yaz has been the best developed of the three, although some of the stuff around Graham’s bereavement has worked quite well too.

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Uncle Retrospective

I think Yaz was fleshed out more in the second series of this run, which Martin may have missed. Conversely nothing was done with Ryan who’s arc seem to have completed when he accepted Graham as his grandad. He’ll be no loss to the show but I will miss Bradly Walsh.

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garjones wrote:

I think Yaz was fleshed out more in the second series of this run, which Martin may have missed. Conversely nothing was done with Ryan who’s arc seem to have completed when he accepted Graham as his grandad. He’ll be no loss to the show but I will miss Bradly Walsh.

And yet Yaz is still a police officer, like Tegan was an air hostess.

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[Martin Smith]

I happened to get the latest issue of the Radio Times and skimmed its feature on the new Daleks. They’ve ditched the operators, they’re radio controlled now. Seems a big change.

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Martin Smith wrote:

I happened to get the latest issue of the Radio Times and skimmed its feature on the new Daleks. They’ve ditched the operators, they’re radio controlled now.

In-universe, or behind-the-scenes?

Sounds like a really crude drone analogy.

Dave wrote:

Martin Smith wrote:

I happened to get the latest issue of the Radio Times and skimmed its feature on the new Daleks. They’ve ditched the operators, they’re radio controlled now.

In-universe, or behind-the-scenes?

Behind the scenes.

Ah, ok. I thought it was maybe a story driven thing after the last trailer.

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Ben

Ah, no it’s the actual physical props. They’re narrower and so won’t fit a human in them now. I suspect that’ll limit their interest to fan-builders, as it’d take some serious battery power to move a full Dalek (even a skinny one) with RC.

I saw something recently which suggested that the new special is going to treat the gap between the last season finale and the special as realtime, so effectively ten months will have passed in between the end of that story and the start of this one.

Which made me worry that they’re going to feel the need to somehow comment on this year’s pandemic even though the episode was written and partly made before that even happened.

Hopefully it doesn’t go any further than a badly ADR-ed off-camera line from Bradley Walsh about wearing masks or something. I think I’d prefer the show to steer clear of the whole thing and remain fun escapism, for this special at least.

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The plot centers around the removal of user uploaded content on pornhub.

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Anonymous wrote:

The plot centers around the removal of user uploaded content on pornhub.

So you’re the villain in this piece?

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lorcan_nagle

Everyone’s the villain in this piece.

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Is there a Dalek subcategory on there? Asking for a friend.

Anonymous wrote:

Everyone’s the villain in this piece.

saga wrote:

Is there a Dalek subcategory on there? Asking for a friend.

Not anymore.

I got the Faceless Ones animated recon blu-ray for Christmas and it’s another solidly impressive piece, like The Macra Terror before it. I went straight for the full colour version rather than trying to stay “pure” to the original with the black and white (I think that’s also widescreen anyway) and there’s no reason not to, it looks gorgeous. The sets are great, the replacements for stock footage of planes looks fab, they’ve really got down how to cost-effectively bodge walk cycles on the cheap without it looking naff and the characters all look brilliant. Pauline Collins is in the guest cast of this episode and her animated counterpart looks spot on. Ok, also a little like Colleen Nolan, but whatevs. Wanda Ventham and the guy playing the cop look great too.

Unfortunately, there’s one character that sticks out amongst all these and doesn’t look quite as polished and it’s the worst possible one: The Doctor. From some angles he looks absolutely fine, but from others – mainly the front facing ones – he looks distractingly bad. It’s not just that the likeness isn’t quite there, but his head look ill-proportioned at times, like they’ve tried to make sure his hair looks thick and they’ve completely unbalanced the dimensions of his head to do so. (Also, a more minor nitpick is that his bowtie doesn’t have any bits coming off it to go under his shirt collar, so it looks like it’s just been stuck on his collar but without looking like a clip-on).

Still, that flaw aside, it’s another impressive work. There’s even a nice anachronistic easter egg or two snuck in (I won’t spoil them). And lots of special features, which I’ve not dived into yet. It’s got me keen to pick up Fury From The Deep soon too, even though that story is boring as hell (well, it was in the loose canon recon – who knows, maybe animation will save it?)

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DavidM

Well, that was all right.

Good having Jack back.

Letting Robertson live struck a duff note.

Liked Ryan and Graham’s final scene, particularly as they didn’t go with the idea of Ryan’s dyspraxia being “fixed” because it doesn’t work like that.

[Bruce]

Dalek on dalek hardcore action is always fun but that aside that was a slog. Actually yelled “Oh my god this is so boring” half way through this at the scene where Yaz and the Dr were moping about the TARDIS. Won’t be going back to catching up on the previous series and won’t be bothering with the next. I’ll watch reruns of The Chase if I’m missing Bradley Walsh.

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John Bishop revealed as surprise new #DoctorWho companionhttps://t.co/gf0LNZUUUh pic.twitter.com/889nKkgKCn

— Radio Times (@RadioTimes) January 1, 2021

Yeah, the Dalek plot was fine even if we’ve seen that kind of thing before, and Jack was treated lightly enough that it was just fun to have him around to add a bit of life to things.

(I was a bit confused about who the second Tardis belonged to and how it could be disposed of so easily but that’s probably because I haven’t revisited the last series since it aired.)

But all the stuff about the companions leaving felt a bit arbitrary – being left alone for a few months was never made to feel like a big enough deal  that they would grow apart so completely, and it all felt completely separate to the main story rather than integrated with it.

You could imagine them shooting every permutation of the “who’s staying?” scene and then running whichever one matched the actors’ contracts, and it not making any difference.

At least having one or both of them zapped by a Dalek would have felt dramatic. This felt like it was completely tagged on.

Anyway, John Bishop is an interesting choice. We’ll see how that works out. I can’t say I’m a huge fan of his comedy but neither does he come with any particular baggage so it’s not like this is another Catherine Tate/Bradley Walsh situation.

Definitely better than most recent episodes, but that’s not saying much. I’d rather it was just one companion for a while.

Dave wrote:

Yeah, the Dalek plot was fine even if we’ve seen that kind of thing before, and Jack was treated lightly enough that it was just fun to have him around to add a bit of life to things.

(I was a bit confused about who the second Tardis belonged to and how it could be disposed of so easily but that’s probably because I haven’t revisited the last series since it aired.)

But all the stuff about the companions leaving felt a bit arbitrary – being left alone for a few months was never made to feel like a big enough deal  that they would grow apart so completely, and it all felt completely separate to the main story rather than integrated with it.

You could imagine them shooting every permutation of the “who’s staying?” scene and then running whichever one matched the actors’ contracts, and it not making any difference.

At least having one or both of them zapped by a Dalek would have felt dramatic. This felt like it was completely tagged on.

Anyway, John Bishop is an interesting choice. We’ll see how that works out. I can’t say I’m a huge fan of his comedy but neither does he come with any particular baggage so it’s not like this is another Catherine Tate/Bradley Walsh situation.

I think it’s a bit weird that “middle aged male light entertainer” has become a companion archetype. Doing it once with Walsh was an interesting inversion of the usual dynamic, but immediately doing it again?

Christian wrote:

Ah, so it’s still Chibnal, yeah? No Doctor Who for me then.

Likewise.

Ive just bypassed Who completely in terms of reading about it, never mind watching it.

Can anyone who still keeps abridged on Who advise – Is there any news about Chibnal stepping down? Is the next series still Chibnall?

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The ep was okay but the running time far exceeded what the script had to offer. I believe we got three big reveals of the Dalek cloning facility in Japan.

The goodbyes didn’t grab me at all, despite being a big fan of Bradley Walsh’s work on the show. They just never figured out how to make the companions work with this Doctor. Would have been better if the third one left too and we could just start fresh next time.

Was there a particular reason for Jack explaining what happened to Rose? That came out of nowhere.

They’re going to need to borrow the MCU deaging device for Barrowman next time around. Never write a live action TV character as being immortal.

saga wrote:

Never write a live action TV character as being immortal.

Except when you write in that they can regenerate their bodies in different forms. ;)

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saga wrote:

They’re going to need to borrow the MCU deaging device for Barrowman next time around. Never write a live action TV character as being immortal.

Ha! The BBC’s tactic of grabbing a bottle of Just For Men didnt really have the desired effect, did it!

[Uncle Retrospective]

Martin Smith wrote:

John Bishop revealed as surprise new #DoctorWho companionhttps://t.co/gf0LNZUUUh pic.twitter.com/889nKkgKCn — Radio Times (@RadioTimes) January 1, 2021

 

Modern day Stan Boardman wouldn’t have been my first choice….

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Maybe I was primed for the worst from the couple of posts I’d read here before putting it on, but I didn’t mind this so much. It was pretty standard Doctor Who fare, and far from the worst Chibnall-era story. I figured out at least 5 more interesting ways to conclude the story or add dramatic tension to Ryan and Graham leaving, but I don’t think that’s too hard.

I have no idea who he is but I did not know who Bradley Walsh was either so it is a push about whether I approve of him. That picture reminds me of the guy from America’s most wanted(i just looked and he really isn’t) but he still looks like a hard ass no nonsense type which doesn’t fit with my impression of the Doctor.

As for the ep, It was a solid Who Ep. It had the scares you are used to in a DW ep. John and Yaz were an OK pairing. Jodie did well and i liked the bits of nostalgia during her walks to the yard. The dude from Law and Order was a negative though. I vaguely remember his character but there really wasn’t need for him and I get a vague feeling that he is supposed to be a Trump wannabe so his comment at the end about running for President fell so completely flat it is like Chibnall wrote it years ago. i said to myself at the time “KNOW THE ROOM DUDE”. the finale with Ryan and Graham was ennh. The appearance of Grandma was a nice touch though.

lorcan_nagle wrote:

I figured out at least 5 more interesting ways to conclude the story

And at least another three if they put it out after the watershed.

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[Dan]

New year’s Dr Who was a  disappointing paint-by-numbers edition. I could not find any character emotion or drama in it – just a movement of characters from A to B to C. It did the least interesting thing with any of its component parts. How this is acceptable Drama in 202o, I do not know.

I think I’m done until Chibnell is.

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Being reported by, well, everyone, Whitaker’s done after the upcoming series so cue speculation for Doc 14.

Ben wrote:

Being reported by, well, everyone, Whitaker’s done after the upcoming series so cue speculation for Doc 14.

Interesting. I’d be happy with the new Doctor they introduced last series to be honest, she suits the part well.

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Doctor Who star Jodie Whittaker quits after three years as Time Lord

Jodie Whittaker is quitting at the end of the next Doctor Who series, when she will regenerate into the 14th Time Lord.

The 38-year-old has told bosses she intends to stick to the traditional rule of leaving after three stints in the TARDIS, like the majority of her predecessors.

One insider said: “It’s all very hush-hush but it is known on set that Jodie is leaving and they are gearing up for a regeneration.

“Her departure is top secret but at some point over the coming months the arrival of the 14th Doctor will need to be filmed. It’s very exciting.”

Insiders claim Whittaker is keen to take on other roles.

The source said she will follow co-stars Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole out of the door later this year, but ­showrunner Chris Chibnall is to remain.

Todd wrote:

The source said she will follow co-stars Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole out of the door later this year, but ­showrunner Chris Chibnall is to remain.

Motherfucker.

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I doubt that the show will go immediately back to having a white male Doctor, let alone an American one, plus he’d probably not want to do it anyway, so it’ll never happen in a million years, but I’d be happy to see Ted Danson as the Doctor.

This may or may not have been influenced by recently binging The Good Place.

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Who’re we campaigning for? Betty White? Hulk Hogan? John David Washington?

Ugh, Whittaker leaving and Chibnall staying is the worst of both worlds.

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Anonymous wrote:

Who’re we campaigning for? Betty White? Hulk Hogan? John David Washington?

Apparently Johnny Depp’s diary is pretty empty at the moment.

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Dave wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Who’re we campaigning for? Betty White? Hulk Hogan? John David Washington?

Apparently Johnny Depp’s diary is pretty empty at the moment.

I think Kevin Spacey is also available.

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Man, that’s a bummer. I already assumed she’d be leaving, but I thought Chibnall would be going too.

Todd wrote:

Dave wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Who’re we campaigning for? Betty White? Hulk Hogan? John David Washington?

Apparently Johnny Depp’s diary is pretty empty at the moment.

I think Kevin Spacey is also available.

So, we’ve settled on Harvey Weinstein then?

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There’s some bloke named Trump who used to be a big TV star and rumour has it he’ll be out of work soon…

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saga wrote:

There’s some bloke named Trump who used to be a big TV star and rumour has it he’ll be out of work soon…

Can you imagine him trying to say Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow?

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lorcan_nagle wrote:

saga wrote:

There’s some bloke named Trump who used to be a big TV star and rumour has it he’ll be out of work soon…

Can you imagine him trying to say Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow?

“This polarity, many people are saying it’s the best polarity but I said OK, maybe if we take it, I told them, if we take it, we reverse that polarity and we use it against the lazy Daleks, – yes they are, you’ve seen them – we take it and we reverse it and then, maybe, you know I take this reversed polarity and they said to me “no-one’s ever done that, no-one’s ever thought of that” so I think I defeated the lazy Daleks for good, you know they won’t ever be back.”

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lorcan_nagle wrote:

saga wrote:

There’s some bloke named Trump who used to be a big TV star and rumour has it he’ll be out of work soon…

Can you imagine him trying to say Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow?

A lot of people says, this is true, a lot of people say that you should reverse, reversing is an engineering thing, reverse the polarity, lot of democrats won’t understand that, of the neutron… it flows. Neutron flows, you know. A lot of people don’t know that. The Neutron Flow. Polarity needs to be reversed.

edit: David did a better job.

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Outstanding work both!

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