.Anyway, there’s going to be a Keaton Batman who may or may not share a universe with an Affleck Batman and there’s a Pattinson Batman who has nothing to do with either of them? And none of them have anything to do with the Phoenix Joker?
You know what they need? A big event where they all get collapsed into one version in a single universe.
They could call it… “Calamity”… uh… “Predicament”… uh… give me a minute to work on it, I’m sure there’s a cool name they could use… 
I do hope they let Ayer do his cut too… kinda weird they haven’t as of yet.
‘Titans’ Season 3 Casts Savannah Welch as Barbara Gordon (EXCLUSIVE)
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/titans-season-3-barbara-gordon-savannah-welch-1234886752/
Preempting all of the crybabies who are gonna whine about a 4hr long movie… (it did make me chuckle).
SnyderVision – Technology to help you sit through #ZackSnydersJusticeLeague only on #HBOMax pic.twitter.com/yP1mOTlUTN
— Chris Wong-Swenson #PingPongFlix 👍 (@pingpongflix) January 18, 2021
Also, it seems they’ve revealed Darkseid’s proper look (as Darkseid, not Uxas) in a fucking t-shirt design… u_u
Anyways… it looks good. In line with Steppenwolf, but not the same.
Four hour long movie:
“Get triggered, snowflakes!”
T-Shirt:
Dude you’re really gonna cut yourself one of these days…
Batman: The Animated Series Sequel Reportedly In The Works For HBO Max
https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/batman-the-animated-series-sequel-hbo-max/
Bringing back every franchise under the sun is one of the worst aspects of this era in entertainment but I’m not gonna pretend like I won’t be pumped if this actually happens.
It’s the unplain valley. It plain, but not plain enough to be inconspicuous.
Well, I suppose the good news is that nobody cares much about Godzilla vs. Kong.
Bloody WB, sabotaging Snyder’s Justice League director’s cut by ploughing an extra $70m into making it.
Bloody WB, sabotaging Snyder’s Justice League director’s cut by ploughing an extra $70m into making it.
It’s the classic right-wing playbook – “They’re cancelling me!” they yell from the front page of every national media outlet.
Bloody WB, sabotaging Snyder’s Justice League director’s cut by ploughing an extra $70m into making it.
Don’t worry, if Godzilla vs Kong does better, they’ll claim it’s actually ShadowSnyder, and was really Justice League all along.
It’s really amusing to be constantly compared to a right-wing nutter/Qanon dumbass just because I enjoy some SH movies…
You also use phrases like “SJW” and leap to the defence of Johnny Depp. You’ll be calling me a “cuck” next.
Sure, I guess it’s possible… GvK ain’t a DC property after all, but I don’t know man, that doesn’t tend to be an issue normally… a studio doesn’t normally pit two of their own releases against each other a t the BO even when they come from different divisions, I’m assuming someone has a job to ensure that kind of thing doesn’t happen.
But you’re right that there are different subdivisions/branches/whatever, and in fact, the Hamada-led one in theory has nothing to do with the SC for obvious reasons…
So, according to Grace Randolph, you have:
John Stankey at the top so, AT&T bossman
Then Jason Kilar, CEO of Warnermedia (he’s responsible for several divisons like “studios & networks”, “sports”, “Direct” (HBOmax), etc…)
Then you got Anne Sarnoff, CEO of Warner Bros (studios & networks), she oversees the WB subdivisions (fil, tv, animation, DC comics, WB interactive, etc…)
Then Toby Emmerich, Chairman of WB Pictures… confused yet? =P
Then at some point Johns and Berg founded “DC Films” but they got fired… so that’s where Walter Hamada comes in as President of DC Films.
It’s a lot more complicated than that, but yeah… the point being, I’m not sure who greenlit the SC, or which division the money is coming from… it IS an HBOmax thing though, and it’s well know Emmerich & co. wanna move away from Snyder’s vision… so… 
Jon, I apologise! I don’t really mean anything beyond light-hearted teasing, although that clearly hasn’t come across in what I post, so I apologise if I’ve offended you.
For the record, I think you seem like a decent guy, although I don’t think you do yourself any favours using that kind of “red-pill” terminology. It’s not something I come across in my little echo-chamber, so I always find it amusing when people use phrases like “SJW” unironically. I will try not to be so quick to react in future.
Although I will always mock Znyder because he’s terrible.
I suspect myself that the Snyder Cut is what it always was. A product with a very dedicated fanbase it’ll appeal to. That’s not a comment on Snyder either, it’s the case for every other director’s cut, including the Donner Superman 2 which was similarly taken over by another director. They mostly go to video, would have at best a limited cinema release in independent cinemas.
They will find it and enjoy whether it is publicised or not. Some will buy limited edition hard copies of it on Blu-ray that’ll deliver the spend back over the long term along with the HBO Max subs.
I have a feeling that this is AT&T putting extra pressure on WB to “make money”.
Well sure, but basically burying one big release under another is the oppsoite of that, surely… I mean, it seems that it won’t be a series after all… soooo that’s shady in itself, and secondly you’d think they’d want to stagger those 2 releases at least 2, 4 weeks appart to keep people subscribed… so yeah, none of it makes sense.
Well, I suppose the good news is that nobody cares much about Godzilla vs. Kong.
You’d be wrong, it seems… apparently it has a lot of buzz. The trailer caught fire at least, so that’s always a good indicator.
Doesn’t the Godzilla vs Kong hype explain the move well enough, though? I mean, yes it’s weird that they dumped 70 million into a 4 hour long director’s cut of a critically and commercially panned movie. But I’d wager this move is more about the hype the GvK trailer generated than trying to sabatoge the Snyder Cut. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Snyder cut is getting less hype (again, critically and commercially panned movie) than they’d hoped. Couple that with Ray Fisher’s allegations about the movie making process and WW84’s less than stellar response, and maybe WB just wants the movie to go away again.
Or they just want more reasons to keep subscribers engaged so they can keep afloat in the streaming wars?
Jon, I apologise! I don’t really mean anything beyond light-hearted teasing, although that clearly hasn’t come across in what I post, so I apologise if I’ve offended you. For the record, I think you seem like a decent guy, although I don’t think you do yourself any favours using that kind of “red-pill” terminology. It’s not something I come across in my little echo-chamber, so I always find it amusing when people use phrases like “SJW” unironically. I will try not to be so quick to react in future. Although I will always mock Znyder because he’s terrible.
Thank you for the appology, yes it’s quite offensive being lumped with a bunch of terrorists, because that’s what those people are… not that you’ve been the only one doing it, but still, appreciated. Not gonna get into the other details because this ain’t the thread for it.
Oh and yes, by all means, keep on shitting on Snyder as much as you want… I’ll probably do the contrary… so all’s good =)
Anyhow… to reply generally to everyone else so as to not write up an essay:
Yes, there could be any number or reasons for the move, but beyond wanting to share the supposed new dates for those 2 releases, I do think there’s a pattern of anti-Snyderism coming from some divisions within the WB/AT&T camp… It’s hard to think that what’s essentially a puff-piece wouldn’t have been given the ok to get printed by someone, so I don’t think the author casually slipped any comments himself. And yes, I’m sure the whole Ray Fisher thing ain’t helping the situation either. It’s still a mess…
In the end, I agree that the best move would probably be to let the SC be the end of it, because there’s still clearly a ton of pushback from within, so what’s the point… plus I don’t see Snyder wanting to do anything in that hostile that climate. Maaaaaybe if he did it under a less hostile division, but I don’t see how. In the end, we’re getting a proper conculsion to Snyder’s trilogy, so that’s good enough.
Oh and finally, in the end I agree with Stankey there… I think people are still being too optimistic (even delusional) about the pandemic, but with most other studios pushing back their movies, it’s true, it’s gonna create a lot of competition in a very uncertain time… so I do agree with the combined strategy, given the larger context of HBOmax’s struggles.
Plus it’s not like there’s any rules in terms of movie releases… they can always do limited releases on theaters for any of those movies that do well. I’m sure a lot of people would show up for some of those, even if they’ve already watched them. As I’ve said, I’d be all in for an imax screening of the SC, but ONLY when it’s safe to do it… same for Dune and maybe Matrix 4 if it’s not horrible.
Christie is inspired casting.
Cain & Abel should be fun too.
I don’t really know Sturridge but he looks like ideal casting for a Neil Gaiman biopic. 
Thursday, March 18 is the day the Snyder Cut premieres on HBO Max.
Sorry, I’m busy that day.
Nice! So that probably means Godzilla v Kong on the 31st then…
Heh, the posters are bold, but this one is just flat out cheeky… love it!
Also, another interesting bit, these are Nielsen’s revised christmas week streaming numbers… that number seems to equate to 14.9 million views. Not bad considering HBOmax isn’t widely available.
https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-nielsen-top-10-1234895616/
Also, does this mean Nielsen’s gonna start tracking streaming services? That’d be nice, having 3rd party numbers.
Thursday, March 18 is the day the Snyder Cut premieres on HBO Max.
Sorry, I’m busy that day.
I do want to see it, mainly just to be able to talk to Jon about it. I’ll have to wait until it’s available to buy on some other streaming service though. Or if it’s on Sky here, get a ticket for that for a month or two again, there’s some other stuff there I haven’t finished yet.
I do want to see it, mainly just to be able to talk to Jon about it. I’ll have to wait until it’s available to buy on some other streaming service though. Or if it’s on Sky here, get a ticket for that for a month or two again, there’s some other stuff there I haven’t finished yet.
Heh… I’m flattered and all, but really, you should only see it if you want to =P
Oooooooooor everyone should just see it so we can have massive decade-long debates about it
Also, since it’s probably not gonna be legally available, I’ll just pirate it and I’ll pay for a month’s subscription whenever the fuck they bother to set up HBOmax in Mexico (or rent it if available on amazon or whatever else)… I’m obviously not gonna wait… u_u
Also:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKpstpujjlC/?igshid=9zwgmk04cau0
What this image means to me. In 2019 Zack invited me to his screening room to see his cut of Justice League. It was in black and white and it did exist. It was over 3 hours long, full of previsualization and work in progress effects along with finished visual effects. At times Zack had to clarify what I was looking at. Yet the story kept my attention the entire time. We then had follow up meetings and scrubbed the reels talking about his vision for the film and the visual effects work that would need to be done to see his complete vision on screen. DJ & I put together a budget & schedule for VFX and Zack pitched it.
Nothing like this has ever been done before. We figured it would never happen. Then COVID hit. Zack had a film that was already shot. Post can be done safely at home and the VFX companies needed the work. On April 30th we were surprised and thrilled to hear the film was a go.
It has been the most challenging project I have ever been on. We had 6 months to do 4 hours of effects work. Every shot had to be researched to see if it was a previous Zack final to finish the full frame, or a work in progress shot from the past that could be unarchived and finished, or a brand new shot. The facilities spent over a month pulling shots & assets from their archives while WB pulled assets from theirs.
ZSJL has also been the most fun & rewarding project I have been on. Zack, Debbie & Wes are the best people to work with. They have always treated their crews like family. They are respectful, inspiring, fun & trusting. Zack knows what he wants and is the first to admit if it is not working.
DJ and I were blessed to bring most of our VFX team along. We could not have hit this schedule & delivered Zack’s complete vision without them. They kept the show moving forward and dug up archived material we thought would be impossible to find. This team delivered over 2,500 shots in 7 months! This is unheard of.
I am sad to see this project end, but am so grateful to have the opportunity to be a part of it. I did this for Zack, the Snyder family and DJ, and for the fans that fought for it and deserve to see Zack’s vision.
Well that should settle the debate once and for all about whether the snyder cut existed or not. You’d think that the mere announcement of it would’ve been enough… and you’d be wrong…
Oh and, holy shit that’s a lot of CGI in a short amount of time… let’s hope it looks the usual level of Snyder quality… this is a bit worrisome =/
Well that should settle the debate once and for all about whether the snyder cut existed or not.
What that seems to say is that there was an unfinished assembly cut of the film with a load of temporary placeholder stuff that wasn’t complete yet.
Has anyone ever challenged that?
The Snyder Cut fans always seemed to be arguing that some finished perfect alternate pure-Snyder version of the film had been locked away somewhere and kept from them. This seems to make it pretty clear that this wasn’t the case.
You know, I can understand people not liking Snyder or his movies… but how are you people not absolutely fascinated by this story?? It’s like one of the best Hollywood stories in decades, and maybe even ever…
how are you people not absolutely fascinated by this story?? It’s like one of the best Hollywood stories in decades, and maybe even ever
Maybe they’ll make a movie about it some day.
And then release two versions of it.
I think a documentary would actually be quite worthwhile and help explain the whole thing to mainstream audiences.
I don’t know, man, I mean, it’s all about versions of a mediocre superhero movie so it’s hard to care.
Hell no, It’s a classic David vs Goliath tale… it’s about failure, the failure of a legendary studio trying to compete against another studio in a superhero-reigned climate and within the context of an impending merger…
It’s about greed, the greed of execs who panicked and made all the wrong decisions… the greed of the people who were trying to advance their careers or trying to get a bonus before the merger…
It’s about drama: whatever the fuck happened when Whendon came in (plus the whole Ray Fisher thing), the polarizing reception of those movies, the studios wrestling control from the directos, a famous actor breaking down and falling back into his worst impulses…
It’s about tragedy: A polarizing director suffering a TERRIBLE tragedy while in the midst of an extremely contentious and volatile professional situation…
It’s about struggle and triumph… people joining forces to make things happen AND achieving it in a totally unprecedented fashion…
It’s also about the streaming wars by the way, which is by itself a fascinating subject… oh and let’s not forget, it’s also about the motherfuckin COVID pandemic, if all of the above was somehow not enough… xD
It’s about soooooooooo much more than just “two versions of a mediocre superhero movie”. Every single aspect (and there are ohh so many aspects to it) of this story is rivetting… I’m not kidding.
Every single aspect (and there are ohh so many aspects to it) of this story is rivetting
Except the movie they made.
Hmm, the whole Snyder cut is a high profile example but not a new story. Company announces big project in blaze of publicity. Response is unexpected, corporate confidence shatters with project finished and moved in from as fast as possible.
This doesn’t rule out the project making money and being a commercial success.
Still, both WB and Disney have pivoted away from doing more. DC has given up competing with the MCU. Disney have moved on fast from the Sequel trilogy. Corporate confidence is a strange and fragile thing.
And in “actor would gladly reprise role” news:
Note how we get these news all the time, but the middle-aged woman is the one who gets the sarcastic headline.
Besides, you’re wrong. Pfeiffer is 62, that’s not middle age.
YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH ABOUT MICHELLE!!!
Holding out hope for Catwoman starring Mekhi Phifer.
YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH ABOUT MICHELLE!!!
I’LL SHUT MY MOUTH AND UNZIP MY PANTS!
Pfeiffer is 62, that’s not middle age.
Are you saying you don’t know any 124-year-olds? You need to get out more!!
I dunno, but some people are complaining that he doesn’t say it in the Snydercut… I think it’s something that got blown out of proportion because of the Ray Fisher vs WB thing…
Oh, also, twitter’s in a tizzy ’cause of this:
Where does the whole booyah thing come from anyways? is it from the comics originally? it kinda sounds like it comes from a cartoon…
It was Cyborg’s catchphrase on the Teen Titans animated series.
hmmm, no Alan Scott 
Jay Garrick(CW Flash), Hourman(Stargirl), Black Canary(Birds of Prey), Hawkman(Black Adam), Hippolyta(WW) I see why they picked that team but there are so many cool JSAers. A lot are missed.
So Youtube’s algorithm threw this video at me… a fairly good summary of all the failed Watchmen attempts… and an intersting thing I didn’t know, at 10:10 more or less, they talk about how the ending looked like a swipe of a TV episode (what? Alan Moore “borrowing” things??? lol) so they pretty much mandated a different ending… and that made me wonder, is that why ultimately Snyder went for something different as well? It seems like through all the script versions the one constant was the ending not being about aliens and all that jazz… Anyhow, worth a watch, some cool info in there.
Was it the CHRIST ALMIGHTY, IT’S THE GODDAMNED WATCHMEN one? That at least had an interesting ending.
That’s the one.
Lady Liberty’s brains!
I’d still love to see the Greengrass version of Watchmen. Maybe after the Snyder Cut is out, people can start campaigning for that?
Sorry, I’m pretty sure they’ll focus their energies on the Ayer cut next…
Oh and on getting sequels probably…
Also, it was funny how they were all struggling with Doc Manhattan… and Snyder was like, here hold my gigantic blue CGI dong… =P
