.Anyway, there’s going to be a Keaton Batman who may or may not share a universe with an Affleck Batman and there’s a Pattinson Batman who has nothing to do with either of them? And none of them have anything to do with the Phoenix Joker?
You know what they need? A big event where they all get collapsed into one version in a single universe.
They could call it… “Calamity”… uh… “Predicament”… uh… give me a minute to work on it, I’m sure there’s a cool name they could use… 
Yeah, in earlier years it might have been different and the runtime might have been a deal-breaker, but I think 2020 has been so hard on everyone that it’s toughened them up to the point where audiences can now just about endure four hours of Snyder Justice League.
Yeah you’re right, it could be good for theaters at this point, since 4 hours mean people get thirsty and/or hungry… specially with an intermission… oh well, let’s hope they release it. It’s not like they have anything to lose (except there might be legal issues with a theatrical release).
Also, sorry I was gonna go look for this picture that explains the 214 thing, but I got distracted and forgot… anyhow… it’s about this picture, if you look closely it says “Director’s cut – Running time: 214″… so yeah it was definetly meant to be the home release which I suppose they would then trim for theatrical, a-la BvS (which would’ve probably resulted in the same issues BvS had I suppose u_u).
Now as long as they can get even a really small audience it pays for itself to send them day and date.
Well if the theaters in question are already functioning again, then yeah for sure it can only help… I doubt it’ll entince any theater to open up again for this, obviously.
Also, as l said, there might be some legal/contractual issues… the “snyder cut” is sort of a first of its kind (as far as I know), because it’s actually not a director’s cut but a new project altogether (despite it being basically but not quite a longer version of an already existing movie 
), and Snyder has said that he had to get the “approval” of pretty much every actor involved, he didn’t specify what was the approval for, but I’m guessing it’s got something to do with $$$ as usual.
But hey, hopefully it’s not too difficult to sort all of the legalities. I’m pretty sure all theaters are closed here right now since we’re in maximum alert at the moment, but hey if by march it looks safe, I wouldn’t mind going to an imax screening… at least, with this being such a hated project, there’s a better chance of less people showing up… so yay? =P
HUNH???? was mr Bad script involved in another poorly written project?
Do they look like the type of folks you’re descrbing?
are you using that picture to defend Snyder fans? when I see that, i think “hand me the bleach” A good caption for that picture is Brady Bunch reboot with Jim Jones playing Alice.
Oh look another dumb idea from DC…
Way to undermine not one, but TWO upcoming projects…
It’s nonsense. The actual news in the article is old news:
A previous THR report, stated that the 68-year-old could appear in several films in a “Nick Fury” type role.
He’s one Batman in the multiverse, and he may come up in more than one movie. Which is cool. But that headline is complete nonsense.
I have to say though, it’s kind of a shame that Snyder blew all his Dark Knight Returns on what was supposed to be his second Superman movie. At this point, he could probably properly have adapted DKR with Keaton as Bruce, and how awesome would that be?
I have to say though, it’s kind of a shame that Snyder blew all his Dark Knight Returns on what was supposed to be his second Superman movie. At this point, he could probably properly have adapted DKR with Keaton as Bruce, and how awesome would that be?
Between Dark Knight Rises and the version seen in the Snyder movies it feels like the older jaded Batman has become the norm in the DC movies.
I’m quite looking forward to seeing a younger, in-his-prime version again with The Batman.
I’m quite looking forward to seeing a younger, in-his-prime version again with The Batman.
This is clearly code for “I’m quite looking forward to seeing the Waynes get murdered again.” In that sense the DCEU is the gift that keeps on giving.
Maybe we can get a Pa Kent style Snyder take on Thomas Wayne. The mugger threatens to shoot him and he shrugs “maybe you should, whatever” and that’s that.
Maybe we can get a Pa Kent style Snyder take on Thomas Wayne. The mugger threatens to shoot him and he shrugs “maybe you should, whatever” and that’s that.
Martha gets shot, Thomas attacks the mugger who drops the gun, but when Bruce picks it up Thomas takes it from him and gives Bruce a disappointing look before shooting himself.
An unused pic from the early days of the production of Batman Vs Superman of Wonder Woman in the Crimean War carrying severed heads – another genius idea from the Znyder-brain, prior to the first WW movie being moved to World War One.
Luckily she’s been downgraded from murderer to rapist in DCEU canon.
I’m quite looking forward to seeing a younger, in-his-prime version again with The Batman.
This is clearly code for “I’m quite looking forward to seeing the Waynes get murdered again.” In that sense the DCEU is the gift that keeps on giving.
If they could chuck in Uncle Ben being shot as well I’d be grateful.
downgraded from murderer
It’s not murder if it’s done in war… or that’s the usual excuse… u_u
It’s a cool picture but I don’t know why there’s a samurai and a native american…
An unused pic from the early days of the production of Batman Vs Superman of Wonder Woman in the Crimean War carrying severed heads – another genius idea from the Znyder-brain, prior to the first WW movie being moved to World War One.
Luckily she’s been downgraded from murderer to rapist in DCEU canon.
How do we know she didn’t rape them before she killed them?
Wonder Woman in the Crimean War
My history is a bit rusty, but that group doesn’t scream “Crimean War” to me
Well without the samurai and the native, they kinda fit… sooo… I dunno, maybe they’re supposed to be gods (which would be a pretty cool movie, tbh, a “god hit squad” kind of thing) or her equivalents for those cultures…
Oooor they just used whatever costumes were laying around in the WB lot that day… =P
You guys are the illiterati of media illiterates. iT’s oBvIoUSlY tHe jUsTiCe LeAgUe oF ItS tImE!
Like so:
Actually it would be pretty cool if they were gods. And pretty funny if that was the God of Scotland 
Also, I don’t know why people are talking about severed heads. They are clearly three midgets standing just by Diana’s leg.
The whole thing look suspiciously like fake news to me.
It’s a cool picture but I don’t know why there’s a samurai and a native american…
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I think Christian and I already pointed this out upthread. There’s nothing in those earlier pieces to substantiate the idea.
An unused pic from the early days of the production of Batman Vs Superman of Wonder Woman in the Crimean War carrying severed heads – another genius idea from the Znyder-brain, prior to the first WW movie being moved to World War One.
Luckily she’s been downgraded from murderer to rapist in DCEU canon.
How do we know she didn’t rape them before she killed them?
I love how the photo’s been treated to make them look like a diorama of gaming miniatures.
Samurai Apache Chief
Heh! That would actually be neat if it’s supposed to be those two… =P
Another take from Snyder himself in HD:
“Wonder Woman 1854 – This amazing image shot by Stephen Berkman of an else-world, war weary Diana, who had chased Aries across the battlefields of the world and had yet to meet Steve, who would help her restore her faith in mankind and love itself.”
Guess that was the original pitch…
Ray Fisher Written Out of ‘The Flash’ Movie as Actor Continues to Criticize DC Films President
Ray Fisher Written Out of ‘The Flash’ Movie as Actor Continues to Criticize DC Films President
Also… Clooney as DKR Batman??? Actually not a bad idea… I can see that…
Also… Clooney as DKR Batman??? Actually not a bad idea… I can see that…
I really don’t see that ever happening. He has a picture of himself in the Batman costume as a reminder not to take jobs strictly for the money.
Well at least no one can accuse Snyder of not being a cheeky monkey… =P
Well at least no one can accuse Snyder of not being a cheeky monkey… =P
I don’t get it. What is it?
I don’t get it. What is it?
It’s a still from Snyder’s Army of the Dead. His dumb “is it real?” film thing is on the shelf in the top left.
and apparently he’s still planning on doing the Ayn Rand thing…
Is he though? That whole Ayn Rand thing is more of an urban legend at this point… it seems more like an argument for people to shit on him because there’s been zero announcements or anything on such a movie… but who knows, maybe he’s still interested in that (I hope not ’cause I have zero interest in that either)
As for the zombie flick, meh… not excited either but whatever. At any rate it’s a Netflix movie so no one should expect too much… those Netflix movies don’t have a great track record… =/
I presume the whole “restore the Snyder universe” thing (or whatever it was) is about milking this further once the Justice League tv show has come out.
Not really, that’s just the fans’ doing. Snyder’s pretty much said he’s done and okay with it, but “who knows”, as in IF the snyder cut does well and IF WB makes him a good offer, he might consider, but at this point he’s basically said “that’s all”. But the fans (me included) want to see a Batlfeck project, Cavill continue as supes, etc, whether Snyder does anything else or not. But being realistic, it’s got almost no chance of happening… DC/WB are still very much against the whole “snyderverse” thing, for better or worse, thus it’s hard to see anything happening on that front except, again, IF the snyder cut really translated into a ton of money.
Is he though? That whole Ayn Rand thing is more of an urban legend at this point… it seems more like an argument for people to shit on him because there’s been zero announcements or anything on such a movie… but who knows, maybe he’s still interested in that (I hope not ’cause I have zero interest in that either)
He announced it as his next movie back in 2018, but did Army of the Dead instead, as nobody wants to make a Fountainhead movie.
>“‘The Fountainhead’… It’s still important to me, but it’s a really touchy subject right now,” said Snyder. “People will think it’s hardcore right-wing propaganda, but I don’t view it like that. I just think the story is super fun and crazy and melodramatic about architecture and sex.”
but it’s a really touchy subject right now,” said Snyder. “People will think it’s hardcore right-wing propaganda,
There’s a reason for that…
I just think the story is super fun and crazy and melodramatic
Translation: Roark says fuck at least once.
but it’s a really touchy subject right now,” said Snyder. “People will think it’s hardcore right-wing propaganda,
There’s a reason for that…
I have to admit, it would be fun to see right-wingers scream, “That’s not MY Ayn Rand!”
thus it’s hard to see anything happening on that front except, again, IF the snyder cut really translated into a ton of money.
That’s tough to measure with an HBO Max miniseries, though, isn’t it? Obviously that’s the problem they’re also facing with WW84 and all those other movies they want to feed into their streaming service as well as the cinemas, but if they can’t figure out a way to seperately track people who only decided on an HBO Max subscription because of JL:SC, then they simply won’t know how much money it’ll have made them.
Of course the good thing is, it’s also hard to determine if it bombs entirely.
That’s tough to measure with an HBO Max miniseries, though, isn’t it
Absolutely. It’s pretty tricky with any streaming service because it’s nowhere near as black and white as someone deciding to buy a cinema ticket for a specific film. On the rumoured budget you’d need 5.3 million new subscribers coming in just for ZSJL, they are currently adding around 4m per quarter.
They can never measure that though so there’s no real way it can make a ‘ton of money’, streaming right now is all about speculating in building up a catalogue to keep that subscriber base growing.
He announced it as his next movie back in 2018, but did Army of the Dead instead, as nobody wants to make a Fountainhead movie.
He announded it like a decade ago =P
Anyways, apparently he’s not doing it now, for those reasons you quoted… we’ll see if he does it in the future.
I have to admit, it would be fun to see right-wingers scream, “That’s not MY Ayn Rand!”
And since it’s Snyder, that’s what would happen… inevitably.
That’s tough to measure with an HBO Max miniseries, though, isn’t it?
It probably is, but I’m sure they have the tools to track at least some of it… but that’s the thing, if it bombs, we’ll never know ’cause they’ll just say “it did great”… we’ll only know if it does REALLY well because they’ll greenlight something, and even then, WB could always run interference…
I’d forgotten about it =/
Also, wow I can’t believe LoT is still going on… I thought it had been cancelled a couple years ago along with Arrow…
>“‘The Fountainhead’… It’s still important to me, but it’s a really touchy subject right now,” said Snyder. “People will think it’s hardcore right-wing propaganda, but I don’t view it like that. I just think the story is super fun and crazy and melodramatic about architecture and sex.”
Zack Snyder basically proving he’s as incapable of understanding his chosen philosophy as much as superheroes.
Architecture and sex is as philosophy?
Man, they taught me this shit all wrong.
Architecture and sex is as philosophy?
Man, they taught me this shit all wrong.
Fuck a building, bro. It’s the path of enlightenment.
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Is it all of them?
Trump can’t be fascist, bevause he never said he was.
And this now made me remember that objectophilia is of course a real thing (because what sex thing isn’t?) and that there was a woman who married the Eiffel Tower: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2074301/Woman-with-objects-fetish-marries-Eiffel-Tower.html%5B/quote%5D
Does the Eiffel tower have any say in this?
Be great if, at the crucial point in the ceremony, it said “you know, I’m just not that into this.”
Apart from how it’s hard to imagine that anyone would make it through the Fountainhead without that philosophical belief to drive you,
It’s Snyder. He didn’t even understand Watchmen. He’s not the deepest thinker.
Apart from how it’s hard to imagine that anyone would make it through the Fountainhead without that philosophical belief to drive you, I don’t think there’s more on the issue. And the quote makes it obvious that if he is an objectivist, he’s not about to tell the world. And honestly I don’t agree with people who read that into his movies, or project it onto the Pa Kent stuff (he was just trying to protect his son, for Christ’s sake!). I honestly find it much easier to make that argument about Brad Bird, with Incredibles and Tomorrowland.
I’ve never read (nor am I planing to) The Fountainhead, so I have no idea about that much… It’s just weird people calling him a hardcore Rand-ian just because he wants to do an adaptation of that book… I mean, shit, if a director is interested in doing a movie about nazis, are they automatically a nazi too? of course not. But eh whatever… double standards I guess…
Also, yeah I have no clue why people keep claiming that his movies are objectivist… that’s nonsense.
It’s Snyder. He didn’t even understand Watchmen. He’s not the deepest thinker.
He’s no Alex Kurtzman, for sure…
I mean, shit, if a director is interested in doing a movie about nazis, are they automatically a nazi too? of course not.
Um, if a director wanted to, say, adapt Werner Beumelburg’s novel “Gruppe Bosemüller”, one of the novels that inspired the nazis early on about German soldiers fighting in WW I, and wanted to adapt it in the same spirit as that novel – then yeah, it’d be fair to call them a nazi. Of course it would be. Or Hans Grimm’s “Volk ohne Raum”, which inspired the nazis’ ideas about “Blut und Boden” and expansion. I mean, why the fuck would you want to film a book like that unless you’re a nazi?
(Or unless you wanted to subvert it and show the absurdity, but that’s obviously not Snyder’s intention as he stated.)
Oh, so is Fountainhead on that same level then? My understanding is that it was a fairly shitty story with Rand’s philosophy injected into it, but as far as I know objectivism isn’t really all that problematic as a philosophy, it’s just kinda dumb. But again, haven’t read any of those books so… whatevs, if I’m wrong I’m wrong… still though, it’d be nice if people waited to see what the fuck Snyder would do with it before judging him… for all we know it’d be just a slo-mo softcore porn with a shitload of pretty shots about buildings and dream sequences of samurai robots figthing with zombie dinosaurs…
I strongly recommend that people read The Fountainhead before passing judgment on the book. It is not an easy read, but it is worth the effort. I read it soon after graduating from college with an architectural degree because the lead character Roark was based at least partly on my favorite architect Frank Lloyd Wright; not because of any political or sociological beliefs.
I’m not saying I enjoyed the book, but I’m glad I read it, because it is a fascinating character study.
Oh, so is Fountainhead on that same level then? My understanding is that it was a fairly shitty story with Rand’s philosophy injected into it,
Well, yeah, it’s Rand’s philosophy in the form of a novel, and given now the novel seems to be fairly shitty, most people who still want to read it do so because they’re interested in objectivism. Or that was my general impression, but I haven’t read it either of course, and now Jerry who actually has done that has pulverised my argument. THANKS FOR THAT, JERRY!!! I kinda have to read at least a bit of the Fountainhead now, I suppose. Fucking Jerry.
To me, Snyder is still largely style over substance. His movies are pretty surface level and when he tried to go beyond that (see Sucker Punch) it can end up a nasty piece of crap. So I can buy that he doesn’t really understand The Fountainhead and just thought it had some cool shit in it. If Snyder were to ever find a solid writing partner, he could probably make some movies I actually like. Dawn of the Dead was the closest which, of course, had the James Gunn script.
I agree Chris, it’s a pity that a lot of directors that are gifted visually often have storytelling issues a really good script could solve.
I listened to an interview with Neill Blomkamp on the BBC where he confessed to it, saying he had issues understanding narrative. Ridley Scott’s movies go from to dud to classic mainly based on the script he picks up – they all look fantastic.
It’s really where my cynicism of the JL cut comes in, I have every faith it will look better, very little that it will make any more sense.
THANKS FOR THAT, JERRY!!! I
You’re welcome, pal.
One of my design professors knew of my love of Wright’s design philosophy and recommended the book to me and some of my classmates. As I say, I didn’t exactly like the book (Howard Roark’s relationship with his love interest Dominique was very uncomfortable) but I’m glad I read it; I may read it again now to see if my opinion of it has changed.
As an aside: after reading THE FOUNTAINHEAD, I picked up a used copy of one of Rand’s early novels ANTHEM, mainly because the copy was not expensive and was short and had a science fiction theme. After that one, I felt no urge to read any more of her writings; but if you want to dip your toes in the world philosophy of Ayn Rand, ANTHEM is less of a slog than FOUNTAINHEAD or ATLAS SHRUGGED.
Bloody Jerry, coming in here with his informed opinions and well-reasoned arguments.
Just trying to fill in for Miqque here.
Bloody Jerry, coming in here with his informed opinions and well-reasoned arguments.
Just trying to fill in for Miqque here.
Your posts need to be longer and have a bit more rambling.
Bloody Jerry, coming in here with his informed opinions and well-reasoned arguments.
Just trying to fill in for Miqque here.
Your posts need to be longer and have a bit more rambling.
And be personally adressed. You think you can do that, JERRY?
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I strongly recommend that people read The Fountainhead before passing judgment on the book. It is not an easy read, but it is worth the effort. I read it soon after graduating from college with an architectural degree because the lead character Roark was based at least partly on my favorite architect Frank Lloyd Wright; not because of any political or sociological beliefs. I’m not saying I enjoyed the book, but I’m glad I read it, because it is a fascinating character study.
One of my design professors knew of my love of Wright’s design philosophy and recommended the book to me and some of my classmates. As I say, I didn’t exactly like the book (Howard Roark’s relationship with his love interest Dominique was very uncomfortable) but I’m glad I read it; I may read it again now to see if my opinion of it has changed. As an aside: after reading THE FOUNTAINHEAD, I picked up a used copy of one of Rand’s early novels ANTHEM, mainly because the copy was not expensive and was short and had a science fiction theme. After that one, I felt no urge to read any more of her writings; but if you want to dip your toes in the world philosophy of Ayn Rand, ANTHEM is less of a slog than FOUNTAINHEAD or ATLAS SHRUGGED.
Oh interesting, thanks for sharing that, I didn’t know anyone in here had read it. 
Yes, I’ve heard it’s got some “uncomfortable” stuff between the main char and the love interest, but considering the author and the time it didn’t surprise me, still though, my point is that I never thought the book was some kind of mein kampf, and in the end whether one agrees with the philosophy or not (I do remember it’s a very pro-capitalism thing, so I’m not interested at all), that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have something interesting in it that might be worth adapting, or at the very least it doesn’t mean a director interest in it makes him some kind of monster… it seems Oliver Stone was also interested in adapting it at some point, I don’t see anyone demonizing him for it.
Another Interesting tidbit from wiki:
Den Uyl calls The Fountainhead a “philosophical novel”, meaning that it addresses philosophical ideas and offers a specific philosophical viewpoint about those ideas.[88] In the years following the publication of The Fountainhead, Rand developed a philosophical system that she called Objectivism. The Fountainhead does not contain this explicit philosophy,[89] and Rand did not write the novel primarily to convey philosophical ideas.[90] Nonetheless, Rand included three excerpts from the novel in For the New Intellectual, a 1961 collection of her writings that she described as an outline of Objectivism.[91] Peikoff used many quotes and ex
So it would seem the Fountainhead was the incubator for that whole Objectivism thing… interesting.
if you want to dip your toes in the world philosophy of Ayn Rand, ANTHEM is less of a slog than FOUNTAINHEAD or ATLAS SHRUGGED.
Alternatively you could have a far more enjoyable experience by listening to 2112 by Rush, which is based on Anthem.
I am sure a Stone Fountainhead would’ve been along the lines of his Wall Street, showing everybody in the novel to be insufferable assholes. Whereas Snyder does tend to adapt materials faithfully. I actually think that his Watchmen adaptation has a lot of strong points, and 300 is great as an adaptation. I wish he’d stuck to adapting stuff.
Sure, but then again he deviates enough for people to hate him for what he changes… so…
Anyways, I don’t think he’ll do it anyways, he’s abandoned the project for now and who knows what’ll happen in a few years, so the point is moot. People should just stop saying his movies are objectivist when they’re clearly not.
if you want to dip your toes in the world philosophy of Ayn Rand, ANTHEM is less of a slog than FOUNTAINHEAD or ATLAS SHRUGGED.
Alternatively you could have a far more enjoyable experience by listening to 2112 by Rush, which is based on Anthem.
I read Anthem back in either middle school or high school. Once you get the pronoun usage, it makes more sense. I remember it not doing anything for me.
2112 is definitely the better way to go.
Mountain Dew Is Reportedly Releasing Riddler’s Brew, a Flavor Inspired by ‘The Batman’
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Bet you it tastes like Granny’s Peach Tea.
Bet you it tastes like Granny’s Peach Tea.
It always has.
I think I’ve never tried it, but the very name has always made me think of goat piss, so yeah, probably not far off =P
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Remember that time Mountain Dew tried to use an online poll to name their next drink flavour? Remember the top 3?
1. “Hitler did nothing wrong”
2. “Diabeetus”
3. “Gushing Granny”
I mean, crude as it is, you gotta love the internet. Disclaimer: I’m working of memory, might be misremembering.
Remember that time Mountain Dew tried to use an online poll to name their next drink flavour? Remember the top 3? 1. “Hitler did nothing wrong” 2. “Diabeetus” 3. “Gushing Granny” I mean, crude as it is, you gotta love the internet. Disclaimer: I’m working of memory, might be misremembering.
This must have been in the US.
In the UK we’d have voted for a sensible name like Drinky McDrinkface.
This must have been in the US.
Of course it was in the US. We have millions who believe 1. is true 
