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Anyway, there’s going to be a Keaton Batman who may or may not share a universe with an Affleck Batman and there’s a Pattinson Batman who has nothing to do with either of them? And none of them have anything to do with the Phoenix Joker?

You know what they need? A big event where they all get collapsed into one version in a single universe.

They could call it… “Calamity”… uh… “Predicament”… uh… give me a minute to work on it, I’m sure there’s a cool name they could use… :mail:

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  • #55514

    They fucked? :unsure:

  • #55518

    Black Lightning Spinoff Adds Insecure’s Alexander Hodge, Two More to Cast

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  • #55589

    TF is this?

  • #55594

    Well I guess the Thundercats Roar employees needed a new job… u_u

  • #55673

    John Wesley Shipp to guest-star on DC’s Stargirl as Golden Age Flash

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  • #55679

    What Playing TV’s First Black Lesbian Superhero Means to ‘Black Lightning’ Star Nafessa Williams

    https://hellogiggles.com/reviews-coverage/nafessa-williams-interview/

  • #55713

    ‘Zack Snyder’s Justice League’ Actor Harry Lennix on Playing Martian Manhunter and the Joss Whedon Scandal

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  • #55780

    I have always like Lennix as an actor and I liked his answers to these questions.

     

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  • #55782

    DC Universe’s New Supergirl Is ‘Young And The Restless’ Actress Sasha Calle; Will Make Debut In Upcoming ‘Flash’ Film

     

  • #55783

    From that story:

    The actresses weren’t informed what part they were reading for; until very late in the process. Calle also did a chemistry read with Flash star Ezra Miller. All auditions, chem reads and meetings, especially during Covid, were done over Zoom. Calle will fly to The Flash production soon.

    No wonder she got the part.

  • #55784

    ‘Superman and Lois’ Brings The CW Superhero Brand Back Down to Boring Earth: TV Review

    Superman & Lois Review: A Smallville Return and a Provocative Adversary Do This Arrowverse Hero Good

    Superman & Lois review: It’s a good premiere — but is it a show?

  • #55791

    Well I guess that is that… I’m surprised they’ve pulled this off…

  • #55792

    I am absolutely not paying $20 for this thing.

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  • #55793

    How much is a cinema ticket in the US btw? like on average, since I guess the price varies…

    Oh also, there seems to be confirmation:

    https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/021821-1530

    And per retail sources, it’s looking like Warner Bros. Home Entertainment will release their new “IMAX” edition of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice on 4K Ultra HD on 3/23. That’s the same day they have Godzilla (2014) coming to the format. Per our own sources, the aspect ratio will vary between 2.35 and 1.43 (the latter for the film’s IMAX sequences). The audio should be Dolby Atmos, like the original version.

    Huh, I thought the whole movie would be in the squared format… I guess not everything was shot in imax. Still… a remaster, that’s good. Wonder if there’s a remaster for MoS…

  • #55816

    I have always like Lennix as an actor and I liked his answers to these questions.

    He’s holding back, having had a different experience, which if nothing else shows character in not just jumping the condemnation train. (Nicholas Brendon’s reactions were similar.)

    On the other side of things, I thought it was especially troubling when Marti Noxon made it clear that she had bad experiences with Whedon, what with her being a constant writer and I think in later seasons even showrunner?
    She also mentions an article she wrote about being a female writer in the industry. She doesn’t mention Buffy – apparently Made Men was even worse – but she points to it being an experience that you’d have on wayyyy too many TV shows.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marti-noxon-how-tv-industry-can-better-protect-writers-next-toxic-showrunner-guest-column-1304789

    This problem is hardly unique to Hollywood, but it is surely true that this town loves the “difficult genius” myth almost as much as it loves male CEOs. And too often, that dictates enabling abusive people and systems in the name of art. A writer friend familiar with discrimination law put it best: “It’s the rare industry that has such low accountability it attracts people who either can’t or willfully refuse to work in environments that require it. It’s a feature, not a bug.”

    And so, while I was believed, there was either no response, or little more than a “conversation” with the perpetrator that amounted to a slap on the wrist. I heard “they’re going through a hard time” or “I know, it’s awful, but what can you do?” or “everyone hates it, but they’re so talented” or “yes, it’s horrible, but at least it’s not as bad as working with …” And for the worst cases “yes, you can report. But the consequences might be that people are afraid to hire you again.”

    Even when I did speak to the companies I was employed by — I could feel the brutal math of corporate America at work: How much will it cost us to address this? And what do we stand to lose if we do? In the end, it was more profitable to roll the dice, hope everyone got out alive, and do the bare minimum. Did I take the next step and hire a lawyer or report it to HR? No. But it felt quite clear that to do so was to stand alone. I wasn’t that brave, or that powerful.

    Also, the measures she and her colleague suggest the industry should adopt to improve things are quite telling:

    • Assistants should only work in the writer’s room, production facilities or office, and when others are present.

    • Ban alcohol and drugs from the workplace as they increase incidents of harassment, aggression, and disrespectful behavior.

    • At least two members of a production should be present at hiring interviews for writers and support staff.

    • Studio personnel should hold exit interviews for anyone above the line who is dismissed from the show or leaves voluntarily. This will help reveal issues within the production.

    • Assistants and support staff should be paid a living wage that also incorporates any and all overtime worked. The lack of both career and financial security is disempowering and creates a dynamic where one must choose between supporting themselves or submitting to oppressive or exploitative behavior. (#PayUpHollywood)

    • Have a succession plan prepared for a change of leadership. Often companies are not prepared to protect their shows — and the jobs of their employees — in the case of reported and confirmed abuse.

    • Require in-person, or live, bystander intervention training that addresses sexual harassment, discrimination, bullying, and racism for all employees.

    • Engage a neutral third-party reporting service such as tEQuitable and AllVoices. These systems allow individuals to raise awareness of an issue privately and protect workers from retaliation.

    • In accordance with law now passed in 13 states, including California and New York, NDAs must focus more narrowly on the protection of confidential business information rather than on covering up a company’s bad practices.

  • #55964

    Up, up and away: Every Superman TV show, ranked

  • #56002

    How much is a cinema ticket in the US btw? like on average, since I guess the price varies…

    $9.26. I tend to round it up to $10 for easy calculation.

  • #56004

    Damn… that’s more than what I thought… so 20 bucks for a 4 hours movie is indeed not that much. Here we pay less than 5 bucks for a regular showing, but I always thought it was expensive… I mean, it is all things considered, but I thought it was closer to foreign prices.

  • #56011

    In London is works out at about $22 to go to a film. Imax will cost you $30.

    I don’t go to the cinema much here (when they were still open)

  • #56012

    In London is works out at about $22 to go to a film.

    Close to that in the NYC area too, for first-run theaters.

  • #56017

    Damn… that’s more than what I thought… so 20 bucks for a 4 hours movie is indeed not that much. Here we pay less than 5 bucks for a regular showing, but I always thought it was expensive… I mean, it is all things considered, but I thought it was closer to foreign prices.

    A normal cinema ticket here is about $3 on average I’d say.

    I disagree on the $20 thing though because I think people have a very different mindset to renting online c0mpared to the experience of going to the movies. Even if there’s 3 of you and it’s potentially cheaper- a video rental was always lower than a cinema ticket, not higher. I don’t think I’d pay that much on principle whatever it was and just wait instead.

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  • #56018

    Yeah, when stuff like Trolls World Tour came out digitally and it was £17 for a 48-hour rental I wasn’t prepared to pay it. Even though if I had been able to take the family to see it at the cinema it would have ended up a £50 trip once you factor in snacks etc. – and I would have paid it.

    It shows how much extra perceived value the experience of seeing something at the cinema adds.

    Anyway, I happily paid something like £15 to own a copy a few months later.

    I guess lot of that early high asking price for “home premieres” is them trying to wring as much money as possible out of something new, but when it’s competing with everything else you can watch at home – Netflix, Disney+ and all the other streaming services, each offering a month of virtually infinite content for half the cost of that 48-hour digital rental – the economics just don’t stack up and the price looks ludicrously high.

    In comparison, a movie release at the cinema is competing with, what, maybe a couple of dozen or so other new movies out at the same time? And usually these things are programmed so that there aren’t too many similar films competing simultaneously, so if you particularly want to go the cinema to see (say) a kids cartoon film or a superhero movie then you’re probably only looking at a couple of options at a time.

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  • #56020

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

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  • #56021

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    No.

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  • #56023

    The other element is what I have said all along. This is actually a niche product. There’s a certain group very keen indeed to see it, another bunch curious and 90% of the audience don’t know who Zach Snyder is.

    In that scenario trying to get the maximum out of that first group is probably the best way to approach it. In publishing there are guys like Thames and Hudson that do quite well by making material with a fixed audience of a few thousand and charging $30-40 for them.  Kickstarter works that way too really, big fans paying over the normal retail rates.

    The curious group is only going to watch when it’s cheap and convenient anyway, the final group may see a picture of Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman and go ‘let’s watch that’ but aren’t going to seek it out and pay over and above their existing subscriptions.

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  • #56029

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    No.

    No. My wife has an insulated lunch bag that looks just like a purse that we’ll stuff drinks and snacks in when we do go to the movies.

  • #56030

    Our local cinema staff always used to be very hardline on trying to bar non-cinema-bought snacks when I was a student. I once smuggled in a can of Lilt and half a packet of custard creams and felt like I’d stolen the crown jewels.

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  • #56034

    Justice League: The Shocking, Exhilarating, Heartbreaking True Story of #TheSnyderCut

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/02/the-true-story-of-justice-league-snyder-cut

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  • #56036

    Justice League: The Shocking, Exhilarating, Heartbreaking True Story of #TheSnyderCut

    Is it “they re-released a superhero film with some new bits”?

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  • #56037

    Our local cinema staff always used to be very hardline on trying to bar non-cinema-bought snacks when I was a student. I once smuggled in a can of Lilt and half a packet of custard creams and felt like I’d stolen the crown jewels.

    None of the cinemas here have ever cared about it. I usually buy popcorn going in, but I always bring my own drink.

  • #56038

    [Snyder] chose Gal Gadot to play Wonder Woman in Batman v Superman and produced Patty Jenkins’s stand-alone movie about the Amazonian princess. “I remember Gal saying to me, ‘Zack, I was going to quit the business. I was getting ready to just move back to Tel Aviv and just have a life there. I was done with Hollywood. I was going to do this one more audition.’ Then she came in, and I was like, ‘That’s my Wonder Woman.’” Now she’s the whole world’s.

    Thanks, Zack!

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  • #56039

    Our local cinema staff always used to be very hardline on trying to bar non-cinema-bought snacks when I was a student. I once smuggled in a can of Lilt and half a packet of custard creams and felt like I’d stolen the crown jewels.

    None of the cinemas here have ever cared about it. I usually buy popcorn going in, but I always bring my own drink.

    They even used to go to the extent of having stickers that would be stuck on to packets of sweets and bottles of drink to show that they had been bought at the cinema. It was all a bit silly really, and only served to further remind people that you could buy exactly the same stuff for half the price at the garage just a few doors down.

  • #56041

    Up, up and away: Every Superman TV show, ranked

    They forgot to include Due South. :negative:

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  • #56054

    I am absolutely not paying $20 for this thing.

    I can’t believe there was a big discussion about this. Forget about the $20. Remember what movie we are talking about(yes, I know Jon, you would pay it, so remove yourself from Everbody else). How much $ would you pay for this? I have HBO MAX but if they ask for a surcharge I ain’t paying it.

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  • #56058

    I am absolutely not paying $20 for this thing.

    I can’t believe there was a big discussion about this. Forget about the $20. Remember what movie we are talking about(yes, I know Jon, you would pay it, so remove yourself from Everbody else). How much $ would you pay for this? I have HBO MAX but if they ask for a surcharge I ain’t paying it.

    They’d have to pay me a lot of money.

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  • #56059

    Justice League: The Shocking, Exhilarating, Heartbreaking True Story of #TheSnyderCut https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/02/the-true-story-of-justice-league-snyder-cut

    Pretty good article… I really liked that they addressed this point:

    At a time of stories of abusive creators, Snyder is an anomaly. Even executives who were sometimes at odds with him agree that he’s genuinely nice. “I’d be stronger than that,” says Silverman. “He’s a wonderful guy and fostered a wonderful working environment on his sets. He really valued the crew. He valued his cast.”

    Considering how throughout the article they keep having to mention how this person and that person got fired amid scandals and all that. Kinda cool to see a nice person being acknowledged for once.

    But it’s really aggravating to see that “toxic fans” narrative being perpetuated over and over again. You can clearly see how it’s now the false narrative of choice from the detractors to attack the movie, seeing that their previous narratives fell flat on their faces. Oh well…

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  • #56060

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    A few years ago a new iPic theater opened in town, and Liz and I were comped two tickets during the debut week (we saw JASON BOURNE). In case you’re not aware, iPic is one of those chains where a waitperson takes your food-and-drink order while you’re in your seat, and brings the food to you while you’re watching the film. Since I was watching the movie for free, I felt obliged to order food. It would have been much cheaper to see BOURNE at the nearby AMC theater and sneak my snacks and water in.

    We did, however, enjoy the evening, and can understand the attraction of such theaters as a new way of enjoying the movie-going experience.

  • #56077

    No. My wife has an insulated lunch bag that looks just like a purse that we’ll stuff drinks and snacks in when we do go to the movies.

    Sneaky sneaky!

    I normally buy my popcorn and my drinks at the cinema, unless I want a Dr. Pepper in which case I bring my own in, but rarely buy candy there. It’s not a price issue, it’s just that I’m very picky with my candy and if I want candy I’m going to have to go to a niche candy store with a lot of import to find the right stuff.

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  • #56087

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    A few years ago a new iPic theater opened in town, and Liz and I were comped two tickets during the debut week (we saw JASON BOURNE). In case you’re not aware, iPic is one of those chains where a waitperson takes your food-and-drink order while you’re in your seat, and brings the food to you while you’re watching the film. Since I was watching the movie for free, I felt obliged to order food. It would have been much cheaper to see BOURNE at the nearby AMC theater and sneak my snacks and water in.

    We did, however, enjoy the evening, and can understand the attraction of such theaters as a new way of enjoying the movie-going experience.

    I’ve never been to a cinema that has that service. How does it work in practice? It sounds like a bit of a distraction having people scurrying around the theatre delivering food and drink while the movie plays.

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  • #56089

    They do that here on regular showings… mostly at the begining while they play the ads and previews, but sometimes during the movie too… fortunately they’re very discreet, but still… probably crappy and distractring for whoever is next to the people making the orders.

  • #56107

    I’ve never been to a cinema that has that service. How does it work in practice? It sounds like a bit of a distraction having people scurrying around the theatre delivering food and drink while the movie plays.

    I have been to a couple, here and in the US.

    You either get an individual table or a platform in front of you, there’s a button to call a waiter. It’s not in practice that disruptive, most people order the bulk of what they want before the film starts and the staff are pretty attuned to not get in the way, ducking down and whispering.

    I went to one in Austin Texas, ordered a craft beer before the show, another halfway through, you’d cause as much disruption going for a pee.

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  • #56108

    I’ve never been to a cinema that has that service. How does it work in practice? It sounds like a bit of a distraction having people scurrying around the theatre delivering food and drink while the movie plays.

    It’s totally a distraction. I enjoyed the novelty of the experience, but I don’t see myself doing it again; I prefer to focus on the screen, not on the person delivering my food and drink. One of the friends we went with has gone back a few more times with his wife and/or son, but he’s definitely into being waited on while sitting back in a big plush chair watching a big screen; to him, the experience is more entertaining than the actual film. To each his own, I guess..

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  • #56114

    It’s not in practice that disruptive

    It’s totally a distraction.

    Fight! Fight! Fight!

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  • #56121

    Ha ha, I suspect like most cinema experiences it depends a lot on your fellow patrons.

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  • #56141

    In publishing there are guys like Thames and Hudson that do quite well by making material with a fixed audience of a few thousand and charging $30-40 for them.

    Closer to home, that also describes Marvel and DC.

    And we pay it every time…

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  • #56143

    Back when I was at uni and had no money, we’d smuggle great big backpacks’ worth of beer into the cinemas. Luckily they wouldn’t check them. There was also one multiplex where you could sneak from one theatre to the other and watch multiple movies. We’d start in the afternoon and get properly drunk watching movies in the cinema.

    These days, I buy my beer there. They need all the support they can get, and I can afford it better now.

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  • #56145

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    I have a super power that allows me to go two hours without needing to eat or drink.

    Saves me a fortune.

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  • #56148

    Closer to home, that also describes Marvel and DC. And we pay it every time…

    It does but to be fair to them a large chunk of that is full colour printing costs for illustrations.

    A lot of these specialist interest books are basic prose and cheap as chips to print, they charge the $30-40 purely because the print runs are so small, any less and there’s no way to support it as a business.

    I would say it is pretty similar to the Omnibus/Absolute model though as they have really small print runs too.

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  • #56154

    garjones wrote:
    It’s not in practice that disruptive

    njerry wrote:
    It’s totally a distraction.

    Fight! Fight! Fight!

    No conflict here — it’s not disruptive to the rest of the audience, but it necessarily is a distraction to the person being served at that moment.

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  • #56159

    ‘Blue Beetle’: Angel Manuel Soto to Direct Film About DC Comics’ Latino Superhero (Exclusive)

  • #56161

    Am I the only cheap bastard here who would take his own snacks and drinks into the cinema?

    I have a super power that allows me to go two hours without needing to eat or drink.

    Saves me a fortune.

    Nah, if you’re not spending the last hour of the latest superhero movie in a battle of the wills against your bladder, wondering how on earth this tactical blunder has come to be yet again, you’re missing out.

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  • #56349

    This was the reveal, btw:

    Looks, pretty good… surprisingly similar to her CB appearance:

    The costume designer(s) is killing it for this new season, Starfire’s is pretty badass too. I hope they revamp everyone else’s costumes too…

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  • #56350

    ‘West Wide Story’ Star Rachel Zegler Joins ‘Shazam: Fury of the Gods’ (Exclusive)

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  • #56435

    No one mentioned it yet, but I saw the premiere episode of the Superman and Lois show.

    It was OK for the most part.

  • #56437

    ‘Superman’ Reboot In The Works At Warner Bros With Ta-Nehisi Coates Writing, J.J. Abrams Producing

    Deadline has confirmed that author Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing a Superman reboot feature for Warner Bros and DC, which J.J. Abrams is producing under his Bad Robot label.

    Hannah Minghella will serve as producer. No plot yet and no attachments despite the fact that we’ve heard how Henry Cavill is eager to get back into the cape.

    Coates is attached to a Ryan Coogler directed drama feature entitled Wrong Answer about a math teacher in Atlanta who is scandalized when he looks to get funding for his school by altering his students’ test scores. Michael Jordan is attached to Wrong Answer.

    As the national correspondent for The Atlantic, Coates covered cultural, social and political issues, specifically that of African Americans and white supremacy. He has written for The Village Voice, TIME and has contributed to the New York Times Magazine, Washington Post and more. His non-fiction books include The Beautiful Struggle, Between the World and Me, and We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy. Between the World and Me won the 2015 National Book Award for Nonfiction. Of note, Coates has written a Black Panther and a Captain America series for Marvel Comics. Coates received a special thanks credit on Avengers: Infinity War, Avengers: Endgame and Black Panther.

    Abrams has a big half billion deal over at WarnerMedia which he closed in September 2019.

    As we first told you in January 2020, Bad Robot and Warner are developing the Justice League Dark Universe for film and TV. Justice League Dark (or JLD team) first appeared in the September 2011 issue of Justice League Dark #1 featuring such superheros, mostly occult and offbeat, as John Constantine, mystic and fortune teller Madame Xanadu, Deadman, Shade, the Changing Man, and Zatanna. The roster is much larger, and members joined later on, with Swamp Thing being added in issue 19. Given their powers, they typically handled situations outside of the scope of the traditional Justice League, which includes Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman, Aquaman and The Flash. Shadow and Act had the news about Coates.

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  • #56442

    Coates is great. He could potentially write something really special if WB doesn’t muck it up. Which they will. Still that’s some unexpectedly cool sounding news.

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  • #56462

    the premiere episode of the Superman and Lois show

    I saw it. I thought the guy playing Clark did a very good job. Supes’ first appearance in Metropolis was great and he handled Clark’s interactions with his sons very well. Lois did a good job too. She was consistent with her hate for Edge and love for Clark. The plot twist was kind of obvious but it was not blown out of proportion. As in the trailer, The Cinematography was beautiful. I like the premise of Clark’s main conflict and I am not talking about the main villain.

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  • #56477

    I thought JJ Abrams’ take on STAR TREK was great — it paid homage to the original Roddenberry work via the inclusion of Leonard Nimoy as “old” Spock, and not tinkering too much with the basic personalities of the main characters — curmudgeonly McCoy, overdramatic Scottie, rules-breaking Kirk, etc. I also think he directed one of the best films in the MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE series (#3). Hopefully he’s learned his lesson about trying too hard from his STAR WARS run, and can put the DC franchise on the right track.

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  • #56486

    No one mentioned it yet, but I saw the premiere episode of the Superman and Lois show. It was OK for the most part.

    It was okay enough for me to check the next episode, but I don’t really care about the premise of the show, so I probably won’t be sticking around… I’m mostly curious if they’ll keep up that level of production, or if that was a one off just for the premiere. Other than that, I like that actor as Clark, but I don’t believe him as Superman as soon as he suits up.

  • #56489

    Hopefully he’s learned his lesson about trying too hard from his STAR WARS run, and can put the DC franchise on the right track.

    I think with Star Wars, I think he was too busy checking off boxes on a corporate checklist (especially the last one) to really do a decent job.

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  • #56495

    I thought JJ Abrams’ take on STAR TREK was great — it paid homage to the original Roddenberry work via the inclusion of Leonard Nimoy as “old” Spock, and not tinkering too much with the basic personalities of the main characters — curmudgeonly McCoy, overdramatic Scottie, rules-breaking Kirk, etc.

    Ok… Years ago, when the first Abrams Trek movie came out, there was a MWer named Joshua who didn’t like it because it wasn’t quite in line with Rodenberry’s formula and vision. I thought Joshua was off, but over time I am starting to see his point. Abrams’ Trek movies is nothing like the TOS episodes, just a different take for a new generation weaned on Fast and the Furious movies and other franchises. I just wish that we can get a movie like the TOS episodes.

    And even Marina Sirtis has something to say:

    Marina Sirtis has Strong Opinions About the J.J. Abrams ‘Star Trek’ Movies

    You also mentioned Mission:Impossible which are nothing like the TOS episodes. They are just Tom Cruise action movies with the M:I label on them. I think you get now what I am saying.

    Why can’t movie versions be true to the original material?

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  • #56498

    Why can’t movie versions be true to the original material?

    In the case of Star Trek it was because the original material was old, tired and nobody was buying it any more. It wasn’t a creative decision, it was a financial one.

    It’s amazing how quickly the Abrams Trek suffered the same fate though. What was it… three movies before nobody gave a damn any more?

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  • #56506

    It was about midway through the second one.

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  • #56507

    Will it be Val-Zod or Calvin Ellis?

  • #56508

    Pfff… just give Cavill a fuckin’ sequel already… u_u

  • #56512

    Pfff… just give Cavill a fuckin’ sequel already… u_u

    Man Of Steel 2: Can We Just Forget Those Other Movies Ever Happened?

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  • #56514

    It’s great that Coates is involved, but Abrams has never made a movie that wasn’t thotoughly mediocre. With him rebooting Superman, I can already taste the blandness.

    And Trek’s biggest problem wasn’t whether it was true to the original show or not, it was that it was a nostalgia splurge rather than a movie (or two) in its own right.

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  • #56517

    Pfff… just give Cavill a fuckin’ sequel already… u_u

    Man Of Steel 2: Can We Just Forget Those Other Movies Ever Happened?

    Why would you want to forget two of the best SH movies ever made? You’re weird… u_u

    And Trek’s biggest problem wasn’t whether it was true to the original show or not, it was that it was a nostalgia splurge rather than a movie (or two) in its own right.

    The first one is a great movie, warts and all… the other two got worse and worse but I mean, he CAN do good shit… I just don’t want another reboot… completely unnecessary.

  • #56531

    Abrams has never made a movie that wasn’t thotoughly mediocre.

    Mission: Impossible 3 is the best Mission by far. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

  • #56539

    Mission: Impossible 3 is the best Mission by far.

    Fuck no, the action scenes were way boring and there was nothing in the plot that really kept my interest, either. It’s the MI film I liked least of all of them. (I remember having the same discussion with Nic Taggart though, so you’re in good company.)

    The first one is a great movie, warts and all…

    Eh, it struck me back then as being too little of a movie in its own right and too much of a collection of fan-wank moments. But then I don’t remember it very well.

    The pitch meeting summary is a lot of fun though (as always):

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  • #56541

    I dunno, I’m not a Star Trek fan, but I throughly enjoyed it as a very solid action sci-fi. I wasn’t even bothered with the inclusion of OG Spock, since it kinda worked (clumsily, but still) within the plot. I’ve probably rewatched that many more times than I probably should’ve.

    Also, the best thing about that pitch meeting is the lens flares going up and down all throughout… that guy is a genius xD

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  • #56543

    I’m reading the trivia page on IMDb for the upcoming The Batman movie and found this entry:

    “Robert Pattinson described his Batman as flawed, unlike traditional comic book characters.”

    Wow. Batman has been flawed for a long time, even Superman has flaws that are acknowledged throughout his stories. What does “traditional” mean in this sentence? Golden Age comic book characters?

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  • #56546

    Steve Sensible wrote:
    Mission: Impossible 3 is the best Mission by far.

    Fuck no, the action scenes were way boring and there was nothing in the plot that really kept my interest, either. It’s the MI film I liked least of all of them

    Haha! I’ve never understood why M:I3 is so divisive, but it’s right up there with Man of Steel in terms of its defenders and haters.

    Here, because nobody asked, is why I love it:

    The screenplay is ruthlessly efficient: It’s about a world-ending threat – The Rabbit’s Foot – but nobody even knows what it is – because it doesn’t matter! It’s just a McGuffin, so the screenwriters are like, “look, we’re not going to insult you with some pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo, it’s just a Very Bad Thing, that Ethan needs to keep out of the hands of the bad-guys.”

    “And when it comes to Ethan recovering it from a secure vault in a high-tech facility, we’re not going to show you yet another heist scene – just assume that he’s doing cool shit on wires again!” Cut to: Ethan jumping out of a tenth-storey window.

    Also, Abrams has a gift for making you care about characters we’ve only just met. When Lindsay dies at the end of that opening action scene, you really feel it, despite the fact she’s only had about 5 minutes of screen-time. He did a similar thing in Star Trek, making you care about the plight of George Kirk, even though we barely know him.

    It’s full of Competence Porn, and that gets me hard: I thought the action scenes were pretty cool actually, particularly when Ethan and Lindsay are throwing guns to one another in slow-mo, taking out a machine-gun-toting bad guy with a single bullet, then rapelling down the side of a building, landing on a van, sliding off the roof, jumping into a helicopter, which then gets chased by another helicopter which shoots missiles at them whilst they fly through the blades of wind-turbines. And all with hardly any distracting CGI! Seriously, what’s not to love about that!

    Philip Seymour Hoffman’s Owen Davian is the Scariest Bad Guy Ever! Even superheroic Ethan Hunt is rattled by him. And he’s a Scientologist!

    Anyway, that’ll do… I really love this movie. The ending isn’t up to much, and it’s about as deep as a puddle, but it’s an A+ popcorn movie, and it doesn’t pretend to be anything more than that.

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  • #56565

    Steve Sensible gets it.

    The first M:I film was too much a Brian DePalma film redeemed only by Vanessa Redgrave’s performance as Max. The second film (the worst one, IMO) was very much a John Woo film with an unfortunately lackluster performance by Dougray Scott and not enough for the wonderful Thandie Newton to do.

    Mission: Impossible III was the first film that was about the characters as much as the Maguffin. It’s the film that made me care about Ethan Hunt and to actively dislike his antagonist (the late, great Philip Seymour Hoffman).

    The subsequent films have ultimate action, ultimate thrills, ultimate exotic locations, and lots of vehicles getting destroyed, and they are very entertaining, but I sometimes get them mixed up with each other because they all seem to follow the same formula.

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  • #56571

    The absolute best part of Mission Imopossible 2 is that it gave us Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. But yeah, I like MI:III. Largely due to Hoffman’s role, but overall it just worked for me. I’ve liked every MI film after it too.

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  • #56574

    Wow… Apparently no one here has ever watched the original M:I.

    You don’t know the difference.

    I have seen the original series and that is why seeing these Tom Cruise action movies under the name gets me upset.

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  • #56588

    I’m reading the trivia page on IMDb for the upcoming The Batman movie and found this entry: “Robert Pattinson described his Batman as flawed, unlike traditional comic book characters.”

    I’m reading the trivia page on IMDb for the upcoming The Batman movie and found this entry: “Robert Pattinson opened his mouth and proved he’s never read a traditional comic book.”

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  • #56589

    Wow… Apparently no one here has ever watched the original M:I.

    Au contraire, my friend. I remember watching the original series with Martin Landau and Barbara Bain all the way up to the end with Lynda Day George. The concepts remain the same — the main character gets a mission, assembles the team for the job, and, with seconds to spare, succeeds in completing the mission. The only real difference with the film series is a much bigger budget and better special effects.

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  • #56607

    If you want to dive into a slaughtering of an original series, I’d recommend the A-Team movie. While it has some bits that are quite fun, I do find it atrocious that they took the original series concept of “no killing” and turn it around. In the movie, Boscos entire character arc is about “being okay with murder”.

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  • #56741

    Congratulations are in order:

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  • #56816

    Synder gave IGN this clip for their streaming event the other day… pretty sure this was supposed to be the opening credits back when they were thinking about a 4 episode mini…

    Oh, also, apparently this is the first time ever Tom Waits allows one of his songs to be licensed for marketing…

  • #56828

    Yeah, I could see that as the opening credits.

  • #56830

    I think it would work better with something a little more upbeat. Maybe Wake Me Up Before You Go Go by Wham.

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  • #56831

    Or maybe something a little more self-referential like “the first cut is the deepest”.

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  • #56832

    Rick Astley – Never gonna give you up.

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  • #56835

    Or maybe something a little more self-referential like “the first cut is the deepest”.

    Old Red Eyes is Back by The Beautiful South.

    Neverending Story by Limahl.

    Stop! by the Spice Girls.

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  • #56844

    For the full Snyder effect you’d need the opening credits to be set to the entirety of something like All Around The World by Oasis, which lasts for 9 minutes 20 seconds.

    For the inevitable director’s cut of the opening credits then incorporate All Around The World (Reprise) for an added 2 minutes 10 seconds.

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  • #56845

    You joke, but apparently there’s gonna be a 10 minute intermission halfway through… Don’t know if it’ll be there on HBOmax, but JunkieXL composed a 10 min suite for it… so maybe… at least for sure in theaters if it makes its way to them (and with the pandemic, it’s very possible).

  • #56859

    You joke, but apparently there’s gonna be a 10 minute intermission halfway through… Don’t know if it’ll be there on HBOmax, but JunkieXL composed a 10 min suite for it… so maybe… at least for sure in theaters if it makes its way to them (and with the pandemic, it’s very possible).

    Actually, they will be playing an extended version of this song:

  • #56860

    Saw this on Facebook recently:

  • #56876

    Synder gave IGN this clip for their streaming event the other day… pretty sure this was supposed to be the opening credits back when they were thinking about a 4 episode mini…

    Yeah, looks like it. Using these kinds of models for opening credits is already getting old though. You know, after Daredevil, American Gods, Black Sails and whatnot.

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