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Laura Hudson and David Wolkin have brought back their excellent ComicsAlliance breakdowns of Neal Adams’ Batman: Odyssey to tackle Batman vs. Ra’s Al Ghul:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/20/20972541/batman-vs-ras-al-ghul-neal-adams-recap

Laura: And so we turn the page — and that’s when a dog covered in dynamite explodes. The dog, which belongs to a weeping, feeble old man, has been wired to explode by Batman who chases them down like this is a page from Days of Future Past. The man is also wearing a collar, which is connected by a leash to the dog. None of this will ever be explained.

David: Not only do we never find out why the dog is covered in dynamite, we also never find out who this man and his dog are. I am 100% confident we will not see them again until they suddenly reappear in like five issues and they are revealed to be absolutely pivotal to the plot.

Laura: Batman swings the explosive-covered dog around in circles like it’s a shotput, throws the dog across the panel, and it explodes. To drive home how cruel this is, the old man cries some more and says that without his dog, he might as well be dead. But don’t worry — the dog isn’t dead, because Batman, like Adams himself, just likes to psychologically torture people with fake deaths that have no apparent motivation or plot significance.

David: Yep, Batman basically gaslights an impoverished man into thinking his dog — his only friend, his reason to keep going — is dead, only to then insult the dog. True superhero behavior, A+. Who dunks on a dog? A good dog?

What do you think this comic is called?

 

It’s Batman/Superman #4! You can see it in tiny print under the DC bullet. The Big Bang are saying their sales dropped hugely since the previous issue, presumably because a lot of readers had no idea what it was.

That’s awful.

I honestly have no idea how that could have got past several people and into print.

They’ve been doing it across the line. The only reason it hasn’t affected me is I buy on Comixology and read the title under the book (got tricked a couple of times buying purely by the cover).

Jake wrote:

They’ve been doing it across the line. The only reason it hasn’t affected me is I buy on Comixology and read the title under the book (got tricked a couple of times buying purely by the cover).

Holy dog shit.  Is Jake the smartest kid in the room for once???

He would be, but Batman’s here.

 

Blowing up dogs for some reason.

I’ve convinced at least one class of Kindergartners that I’m Batman.

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— Sean Gordon Murphy (@Sean_G_Murphy) December 2, 2019

Batman/ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III “Crisis In A Half Shell” was all sorts of awesome. I really enjoyed this, and think you would too. It’s a weird mash up of the respective casts, and continuities into a fun inter dimensional romp, that gets down right Morrisonesque by the time it finishes. Tynion and Williams are on fire here, and Kevin Eastman even provides several pages of artwork, tying in to the overall plot of the series. It’s a crazy, out there that is an absolute joy for fans of  both properties.

 

Jorge Jimenez jumps to Batman in March
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DC March – Batman solicits (early) Batman # 90 & # 91
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Not interested in picking up Batman but I really like Jorge Jimenez.  His work Super Sons and Justice League was incredible.

DC for March – Newsarama
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Two years after the first issue shipped, Batman: Creature of The Night by Busiek and Jean Paul Leon is finally completed.

A series in the vein of Superman: Secret Identity, this one looks at the life and times of Bruce Wainwright.

It’s a great read, although a far different book than it’s predecessor. That book was a joyful and euphoric story. This one a dark journey through the mind of a troubled individual. Makes you stop and think about how damaged our Batman truly is too.

I doubt it will have the longevity of an evergreen book, but if you like Kurt’s Astro City style of writing this one is worth checking out.

 

I’ve been tradewaiting this series for a long time. Glad it’s finally finished.

Great to hear it concluded, will grab the trade next year.

Vikram wrote:

Makes you stop and think about how damaged our Batman truly is too.

I’m not sure when it happened but, at some point in the last 3-4 years, I started seeing Batman as a one fucked up waste and a mess.  Maybe it’s because I’ve been in the right place to address how my own head works and I’m looking at Bruce Wayne and thinking: What the fuck is your excuse?

Ben wrote:

I’m not sure when it happened but, at some point in the last 3-4 years, I started seeing Batman as a one fucked up waste and a mess.  Maybe it’s because I’ve been in the right place to address how my own head works and I’m looking at Bruce Wayne and thinking: What the fuck is your excuse?

I blame Alfred.

I don’t think he got Bruce the help he needed when he was young. He took care of him himself without getting him proper professional mental health care. If Bruce has gotten help, I could see him using his intelligence, wealth, and resources to make a wider and more impactful difference to Gotham City by addressing the core problems behind the crime. He could have even been President and made a truly national and global impact. Instead, because of Alfred’s arrogance and incompetence, we ended up with a head case in a fetish suit.

Alfred is the worst.

In that respect I really like that final scene in White Knight: “Jim, I really like hurting people”.

Creature of The Night talks to a few of those points pretty directly, guys.

In other news, I’ve started reading the Dan Jurgens Action Comics run from DC Rebirth. It’s pretty turgid stuff, and a total chore to read so far. It spends a lot of time trying to tidy up and address the lingering plot threads of the New52 Superman’s death, and ends up being a difficult read if you just didn’t give a fuck about any of that.

Some of the plots are entertaining enough, but Jurgens writing over bland art from the likes of Zircher, Segova, and Kirkham really make it an incredibly dull book.

Nowhere near as entertaining as Tomasi, Gleason et al’s concurrent run on Superman.

 

I’m really struggling to get to grips with the new site, but I just wanted to pop in and say, hellblazer 1 was as damn near perfect a single issue of hellblazer as I’ve read

spurrier’s dialogue can irritate at times, but his Glaswegian and London slang was note perfect

Chris-S wrote:

spurrier’s dialogue can irritate at times, but his Glaswegian and London slang was note perfect

Huh, I thought Constantine was American.

RonnieM wrote:

Chris-S wrote:

spurrier’s dialogue can irritate at times, but his Glaswegian and London slang was note perfect

Huh, I thought Constantine was American.

Woah.

What Constantine looks like now

Rocket wrote:

What Constantine looks like now

I’ll take it.

Doomsday Clock finished.

The last issue will be one of the best in the series, but won’t redeem the series.

After reading the finale it looks like the story could be told in shorter series, maybe 6 good issues, instead of dragging it for 12.

The best is still the art of Gary Frank, and Johns does a good finale.

 

 

Starman #80 came out in the summer of 2001. I know time passes strangely in the DCU, especially as we’ve had at least two reboots since then, but arguably it would still make Jack Knight’s son in his late teens now. Perfect for a new legacy hero, I think.

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Francisco wrote:

Doomsday Clock finished.

The last issue will be one of the best in the series, but won’t redeem the series.

After reading the finale it looks like the story could be told in shorter series, maybe 6 good issues, instead of dragging it for 12.

The best is still the art of Gary Frank, and Johns does a good finale.

 

 

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can he? Admittedly I’ve only been skimming the series until it’s collected but I found the final issue pretty incomprehensible. It was often badly staged too. I have no idea what happened at the end with the comedian shooting at people. A character literally appears out of nowhere. I had to go back to see if I missed him in an earlier panel but no he just wasn’t included in them I guess.

So, as well as Doomsday Clock, the Bat-King run ended.  Thoughts? Is this run really going to read better in trade, be it HC or OHC?

He’s back! Shazam! #13! by @geoffjohns @daleeaglesham and me. For @dccomics #shazam #dccomics #geoffjohns #comics #comicbooks #superboyprime #superboy pic.twitter.com/9CaVbt1eIb

— Michael Atiyeh (@atiyehcolors) January 4, 2020

DC’s April Solicitations Preview (Strange Adventures #2)
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The Solicitations for April 2020 thread:
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DC April 2020 Solicitations- Newsarama
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and cover gallery…
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The Weird Porny Origin Story of DC Comics

It’s all been building to this…
🤘🏻🤘🏻@GregCapullo @jonathanglapion @fcoo pic.twitter.com/lhh0tTaLbP

— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) January 29, 2020

Bc folks are asking: this project with Greg will be a bit of a capstone to everything I’ve worked on at DC – threads from the start thru metal and JL- bringing it all to a final conclusion. It also builds on great DC stories by others, too, past and present, celebrating it all.

— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) January 31, 2020

Scott Snyder’s DC ‘Encore’ will be a ‘final conclusion’ to his superhero work of the past decade (x)

He caveats later he won’t necessarily not do any superhero comics. The Newsarama headline likes the hype as usual. He does say for the near future he’ll be concentrating on creator owned stuff. I for one am glad, I don’t really like his later ‘crazy concept’ stuff. I’m okay with ‘crazy concept’ stuff in general but for Snyder in particular it isn’t a patch on his more horror inflected work and the start he had on Batman.

So he’s finally going to finish American Vampire, right? Right?

I think he will.

(My other big focus at DC this year is American Vampire.)

— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) January 31, 2020

The new King/Gerads Strange Adventures will now be part of Black Label:

https://www.newsarama.com/48893-dc-s-strange-adventures-re-labeled-as-for-ages-17-up-black-label-title.html

Makes sense considering 13+ is now the highest age label for the main DC line.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2020/02/05/dc-reveals-epic-game-changing-plans-for-free-comic-book-day-2020

Flashattan is coming!

(Pleases stop it DC)

So the Flash can shoot Earths out of his forehead AND his nipples?

I am so jealous!

Eduardo wrote:

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2020/02/05/dc-reveals-epic-game-changing-plans-for-free-comic-book-day-2020

Flashattan is coming!

(Pleases stop it DC)

In order to save his children and the multiverse itself, Wally West makes the ultimate sacrifice, taking his place in the Moebius Chair. Unbeknownst to him, the chair is packing a little extra power, having been imbued with the godlike powers of Dr. Manhattan! Now armed with infinite knowledge – and the powers of a god – Wally West can see the past, present and future of the DC Universe all at once.

Tom King claims he wouldn’t [SPOILERS FOR THOSE HAVEN’T READ BATMAN #77] , but DC intervened (x)

I just leave text here so that i don’t want this member group to go click that site in case they haven’t yet pick a book and i don’t want to make a mistake again, also i’m still don’t know how to hidden text so yay i’m a boomber (well, i’m 20’s)

“I got the opposite of push back. I got push forward, i sort of had this cliffhanger where [Spoilers], at the end, was gonna, could perish. And I put it in the script, like, of course, we’ll figure this out later and [Spoilers]. And DC’s like, ‘No, why [Spoilers]? Why’s [Spoilers]’ And I’m like, ‘Well, because [Spoilers] and [Spoilers] has to live forever because [Spoilers] a fantastic character.’ And they’re like, ‘No no no no, [Spoilers]“

This is complicated immeasurably by the fact that there is a Batman character called Spoiler.

You got me there.

Dave, you forgot this. which is like icing on this incredibly unwieldy mutiversal layer cake. 

 

Generation Zero also includes a reprint of “A Brave New World,” from Wonder Woman #750.  Written by Scott Snyder with art by Bryan Hitch, Wonder Woman makes her debut as DC’s first superhero, saving the life of Franklin D. Roosevelt during an assassination attempt at the 1930 World’s Fair in New York. As a nation hears more about her heroic exploits, it inspires some citizens to consider their own unique gifts, and how they could be used to help protect the world – among them Alan Scott, who will become the first Green Lantern!

Rocket wrote:

As a nation hears more about her heroic exploits, it inspires some citizens to consider their own unique gifts, and how they could be used to help protect the world – among them Alan Scott, who will become the first Green Lantern!

I hate this sort of retcon, as it diminishes characters like Alan Scott. We are now supposed to assume that Alan was gifted with this vast power and said, “You know what? I’ll carry on with life as usual, because I can’t think of anything else to do with vast power.” Then one day he sees a newsreel of Wonder Woman and thinks, “OMG, helping people! Why didn’t I think of that?”

The description seems to imply that he hasn’t been gifted with vast power yet.

DavidM wrote:

Rocket wrote:

As a nation hears more about her heroic exploits, it inspires some citizens to consider their own unique gifts, and how they could be used to help protect the world – among them Alan Scott, who will become the first Green Lantern!

I hate this sort of retcon, as it diminishes characters like Alan Scott. We are now supposed to assume that Alan was gifted with this vast power and said, “You know what? I’ll carry on with life as usual, because I can’t think of anything else to do with vast power.” Then one day he sees a newsreel of Wonder Woman and thinks, “OMG, helping people! Why didn’t I think of that?”

Wasn’t it actually a retcon for the bulk of the characters in the JSA to come before Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman?  I understand why they wouldn’t take Superman and Batman back to the Golden Age in main continuity.  They’ve kind of cheated in the past with Hippolyta being the Golden Age Wonder Woman.

rory wrote:

The description seems to imply that he hasn’t been gifted with vast power yet.

My reading of it was the exact opposite. But I can see your interpretation too. It just shows how it’s bad to judge something on the basis of one ambiguous preview paragraph.

RonnieM wrote:

Wasn’t it actually a retcon for the bulk of the characters in the JSA to come before Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman? I understand why they wouldn’t take Superman and Batman back to the Golden Age in main continuity. They’ve kind of cheated in the past with Hippolyta being the Golden Age Wonder Woman.

Yes, that was one of the more unfortunate fallouts from the original Crisis removing Golden-Age Superman etc., but keeping the JSA in current continuity. Superman is now basically just a ripoff of Iron Munroe

New Batman: The Animated Series tie-in comic from producers coming to DC in April

[Sean Robinson]

Solicitations for May 2020 thread

DC solicits for May 2020 – Newsarama

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[Vikram]

Now then. Flash Forward, eh? What the hell was that about? Really.

Picking up the story of Wally West after the end of Heroes In Crisis, this book basically throws away all the pathos of that series for a haphazard series of alternate universe adventures, ostensibly to rebuild the hero’s shattered psyche before he makes the ultimate sacrifice. Phew. What a mouthful.

Unfortunately, if you made it this far, my summary makes far more sense than this mini-series did. From the opening pages with a ridiculous looking Watcher rip off, to Wally basically defeating the Justice League and the Avengers by himself, to a muddled finale where he is forced to basically gives up everything that made him everyone’s favourite Flash in “Penance” (oh, very clever DC … wait, that’s exactly what I said would happen, isn’t it) for his sins.

I never gave Scott Lobdell a hard time. I enjoyed his Uncanny X-Men back in the day, and still think his Generation X was fantastic. But, seriously this mini was difficult to get through.

Brett Booth’s artwork was a lot of fun. It does have that going for it. And, it does go some way to restoring what was once lost. But, it still leaves a pretty bad taste in the mouth. I almost prefer where King left Wally to where he is now. At least that made some sort of sense.

It’s pretty sad to see how DC seems pretty darn determined to throw it all away these days, when they were doing so well just a couple year’s back. 🤦‍♂️

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Vikram wrote:

Now then. Flash Forward, eh? What the hell was that about? Really.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2020/02/05/dc-reveals-epic-game-changing-plans-for-free-comic-book-day-2020

it is not pretty though so be warned before clicking on that link

Vikram wrote:

But, seriously this mini was difficult to get through.

While I have not read it, it sounds like he was probably having to work within the confines of some serious editorial mandates.

WILDSTORM FANS!

if you're waiting for the WS characters to be reintroduced, keep an eye out for DC's GENERATION FOUR: AGE OF REBIRTH one-shot later in the year! pic.twitter.com/8qpe8pttjx

— Big Bang Comics (@TheBigBang_) February 21, 2020

[Eduardo]

DiDio is gone

https://www.newsarama.com/49148-dan-didio-exits-dc.html

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[Eduardo]

Eduardo wrote:

DiDio is gone

https://www.newsarama.com/49148-dan-didio-exits-dc.html

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Eduardo.

Damn, that’s a surprise.

Huh. I guess he’d been there long enough but still this is surprising.

Just spitballing:

Overall, how have DC’s sales been? Has there been a greater decline than one would expect?

Has there been any huge outrage online over the quality of the books or the line in general? (Well, bigger than normal.)

If this the first part of some restructuring of DC?

Did something of a more scandalous nature occur?

[Eduardo]

Eduardo wrote:

DiDio is gone

https://www.newsarama.com/49148-dan-didio-exits-dc.html

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Eduardo.

Nothing but idle speculation here, but the failure to capitalise on the good press and fortunes of DC Rebirth, with some questionable decisions recently that haven’t endeared themselves with the online fan community (this 5G nonsense, for example). Along with DC’s continued second place in volume and revenue. Probably necessitated a change in direction, likely prompted by changes further up in the chain at WB.

Todd wrote:

While I have not read it, it sounds like he was probably having to work within the confines of some serious editorial mandates.

That’s probably a fair assumption.

Vikram wrote:

the failure to capitalise on the good press and fortunes of DC Rebirth, with some questionable decisions

Yeah, they also really cut back on the OHC / Omnibus editions of the new material so bang went my interest.

Then there’s the Bendis Superman, hearing very mixed reviews about; there’s WW, which I haven’t much chatter about; and there is the Bat-King run, which Tynion has the job of cleaning up after.

I look at what they had with Rebirth and it’s all gone out the window now.  I no longer know what kind of hardback a collection will get because DC play so fast and loose with it.

Their one encouraging success? The Black Label, liking the look of that.  Good stories without any continuity bollocks.

Vikram wrote:

this 5G nonsense

On Rob Liefeld’s Facebook post about the firing, someone said DC may be revising 5G now. Take that with a huge chunk of salt.

[MaxMaxmarvel123]

I wish Dan best of luck in the future, here’s others thoughts.

Few people brought more energy, passion and enthusiasm to comics than Dan DiDio. If you spent any amount of time with him at or caught one of his many convention panels, you couldn’t help but see that. Sad to see him go and I wish him all the best.

— Dan Jurgens (@thedanjurgens) February 21, 2020

Dan Didio was a supporter and champion of my work from day one. He kept Sweet Tooth alive and gave me my first chances at writing comics in 2010. Wish him all the best. DC won’t be the same without his passion.

— Jeff Lemire (@JeffLemire) February 21, 2020

Dan DiDio – His time at DC was an amazing accomplishment. Thank you Dan for letting Amanda & I grow as storytellers & always having our backs. We will miss that bold & creative energy that you brought to DC & we look forward to seeing what comes next.

— Jimmy Palmiotti (@jpalmiotti) February 21, 2020

Dan DiDio was a great champion of mine over at DC Comics. I’m forever grateful for his support as I made my way to the DCU and for our conversation they led to Female Furies. I am wishing him luck on his next adventure. It’s definitely the end of an era.

— cecil will be at ECCC NN-15 (@misscecil) February 21, 2020

While the world of comics likes to look at things in terms of heroes and villains, that’s far from reality. I’ve known Dan Didio years before he was at DC.

— JoeQuesada (@JoeQuesada) February 21, 2020

We lived in different universes and competed for more years than I can remember, he’s a good guy and has been a staunch advocate for our medium for nearly two decades. I want to personally wish him the best and look forward to all his future endeavors and successes.

— JoeQuesada (@JoeQuesada) February 21, 2020

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Vikram wrote:

Nothing but idle speculation here, but the failure to capitalise on the good press and fortunes of DC Rebirth, with some questionable decisions recently that haven’t endeared themselves with the online fan community (this 5G nonsense, for example). Along with DC’s continued second place in volume and revenue. Probably necessitated a change in direction, likely prompted by changes further up in the chain at WB.

I think this is fairly sound reasoning.

Ben wrote:

Their one encouraging success? The Black Label, liking the look of that.  Good stories without any continuity bollocks.

Agreed. I wasn’t sure at first but it’s an imprint that has already turned out some great stories.

To be taken with a big pinch of salt as it’s from a certain rumour site but they are saying it’s more a behaviour issue, certain editors complaining about their treatment.

While that could be nonsense to me it makes a bit more sense than the current performance of DC. Firstly because him leaving was incredibly abrupt (apparently that morning he was on a retailer call) and while DCs sales currently aren’t stellar they’ve been a lot worse under Didio’s time. Similarly with something like 5G, if you propose a crappy idea you are normally asked to scrap it rather than be sacked on the spot.

I’m nobody in the industry, so there are few who would care about my opinion on Dan, but having read a lot of interviews with him over the years, read a lot of his editorials, and having briefly met the guy at a Con years ago; I don’t doubt at all that he cared a lot about the industry, DC in particular, and what makes a good comic. Unfortunately his and my ideas of what that was differed greatly. It’s unfair to say that everything that I loved from DC in the last two decades happened in spite of him, but everything that was more overtly his idea I ended up disliking immensely (Infinite Crisis, the New52, Age of Heroes, etc).

garjones wrote:

To be taken with a big pinch of salt as it’s from a certain rumour site but they are saying it’s more a behaviour issue, certain editors complaining about their treatment.

While that could be nonsense to me it makes a bit more sense than the current performance of DC. Firstly because him leaving was incredibly abrupt (apparently that morning he was on a retailer call) and while DCs sales currently aren’t stellar they’ve been a lot worse under Didio’s time. Similarly with something like 5G, if you propose a crappy idea you are normally asked to scrap it rather than be sacked on the spot.

It’s possible. I work in a similar big corporate environment. We’ve had significant senior execs disappear almost overnight on a few occasions. Quite often HR were the primary decision maker in these cases.

The behaviour thing seems possible too, but it seems a bit surprising for an issue like that to come up this long into his tenure. Unless there has been a specific incident or series of incidents recently.

garjones wrote:

To be taken with a big pinch of salt as it’s from a certain rumour site but they are saying it’s more a behaviour issue, certain editors complaining about their treatment.

The rumour site are saying it mostly is about 5G/Generation 5, but more that he wasn’t listening to a lot of dissent about it from other people in the company, which is why a bunch of editors quit.

Yeah, it looks like the latest, more detailed rumours are pretty much in line with what Vikram said above, and that as a consequence of that the way Didio was dealing with it was causing frustration among creators and editors and leading them to walk out.

I can believe that. If DC’s very existence as a publisher is hanging in the balance (as it seems to be from some recent reports) then having someone in charge who is making these poor decisions on the overall direction of the line and who isn’t showing an ability to lead DC through it all is probably not going to last for long.

Which is a surprise given how long he’s been there overall, but circumstances change.

I’ve always really liked Dan DiDio.  He has a huge passion for comics and has always been super kind and hospitable to me in person.  I’ve heard others in the industry say similar kind things about him.  I’ll be curious to see what his next move is.  I’ll also be curious to see how DC replaces him.

In a perfect world, Jim Lee will take over, put the DCU on hiatus, and focus on rebuilding the WildStorm Universe with top talent. Sadly, the world is not perfect.

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Rocket

As a crossover could have been posted here or in the indie thread. Felt maybe Didio needed a breather so it’s in here.

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MaxMaxmarvel123

I’ve never read Locke & Key. Recommended?

Yes.

Makes sense to capitalise on the current high profile of the Netflix series I guess.

Thanks, Ben 😆 What’s it all about?

There’s a Sandman Netflix series coming soon too. Netflix must be loving this!

[Ben]

Vikram wrote:

Thanks, Ben 😆 What’s it all about? There’s a Sandman Netflix series coming soon too. Netflix must be loving this!

Hadn’t heard about Sandman on Netflix.

As to Locke and Key – it’s one of those stories where it’s best to say not too much about it.  There’s this house on this bit of land and it has these keys lurking in it, keys that allow you to do weird things like astrally leave your body or open up your head and let someone see thoughts in visual form running around.  Of course, as to what the keys actually are and where they come from….

Hill and Rodriguez really work well together.  It’s more on the psychological strand of horror, a sense of things not being quite right, that off-kilter sense of creepiness….

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Cool. I’ll check it out, thanks. ComiXology have the entire series available at the moment for £20. The Netflix Sandman show is being worked on at the moment. Gaiman’s involved as well. So it should be pretty epic.

I think Netflix is developing a good pedigree of working with creators – theyve got Millar, Gerald Way and Joe Hill on side.

Amazon has done a rwalky goid job with The Boys but i suspect that could have easily gone to NF.

Gaiman reportedly had a terrible time with American Gods and the Levitt/Starz adaption so its not too surprising that someone else struck while the iron was hot. Theyre pouring loads of money into it, bar.

Gaiman seems to be spreading it about a little, he had the Good Omens series with Amazon and the BBC too.

Thats true.

Honestly its probably just the usual commercials of having a lot of valuable IP.

Contrary to what might be read as the implications in my previpus post, im sure hes just picking the vendors on a case by case basis.

Vikram wrote:

ComiXology have the entire series available at the moment for £20.

That’s quite the price.  If you like artistic continuity, Rodriguez does all of it, issue to issue too.

Vikram wrote:

I’ve never read Locke & Key. Recommended?

Locke & Key was one of my favorite comics of the last decade. Definitely recommend.

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garjones

Marvel Rumored To Take Over DC Comics

I don’t know how reliable that site is and I doubt it’ll happen, but if it did it would be the worst thing to ever happen to Big Two comics. Imagine merging the Marvel and DC universes. Yuck.

If the article is true and I have doubts, the impression I get is that Marvel would take over the license and produce DC comics. They wouldn’t merge he universes though I’m sure they would have crossovers.

This same article says that they are looking to have people associated with TV and movie productions take over as writers. JJ Abrams doing a brief Spidey miniseries with his son is one thing. Writing a monthly ongoing series is something else entirely. Those people have too much on their plates to do that.

Honestly, a lot of that article sounds like wishful thinking and/or someone overheard executives spitballing ideas. And considering that EVS is spouting some of this, I really have my doubts.

Even if the universes remained distinct, constant crossovers would dilute the brands. It’d be like when Bendis put Spidey and Wolverine and F4 members on the Avengers, it crosses the streams and diminishes the identities of the individual characters. Doing it with two different comic book universes would be so much worse.

And the temptation to merge the universes would be there. I think they’d give in eventually.

Will_C wrote:

I don’t know how reliable that site is

Not at all. They’re constantly posting fake/unreliable stories.

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It seems like the bulk of the rumors are coming from Rich Johnston. He has been accurate in the past and with some staffing changes at DC recently, the outgoing folks may have given him some inside information. Still, it’s all rumors at this stage.

There’s been rumours of Marvel taking over DC since the 70s, most notably just before Warner Brothers bought DC.

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RonnieM, Todd

Hey, since Jeph Loeb’s available now, maybe he can take over the reigns at DC!

It’s not as far fetched as you might think.  Marvel almost took over DC once.

https://comicbook.com/2015/01/04/the-story-behind-the-time-marvel-almost-bought-dc-comics/

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Marvel’s predecessor Atlas Comics lost their distributor in 1957, so publisher Martin Goodman (Stan Lee’s uncle) cut a deal with distributor Independent News to ship his books to newsstands and stores that had a comics rack. At that time Independent owned and distributed DC comics, so they limited the number of books Marvel released to 8 per month; by 1964 Marvel was allowed to slowly increase their output so that, by 1968, they released up to 16 books each month. That year, Goodman sold his company to Cadence Industries, which had its own distribution service, but until then DC effectively prevented Marvel from expanding and cashing in on its early popularity.

Ironic, dontcha think?

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