Across the Spider-Verse: SPOILER discussion

Home » Forums » Movies, TV and other media » Across the Spider-Verse: SPOILER discussion

Author
Topic
#109514

Out tomorrow. Spoiler thread. Discuss here.

Viewing 26 replies - 1 through 26 (of 26 total)
Author
Replies
  • #109517

    This one is getting one hell of a positive buzz around it.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
  • #109521

    I am so looking forward to it!

  • #109523

    Yeah I can’t wait. I’ve skipped the last few big superhero movies in cinemas as I just haven’t had the interest, but I have tickets for Friday afternoon with my son as we’re both really keen to see this.

    Weirdly when I first saw Into The Spider-Verse I was a little lukewarm on it, but each time I’ve revisited it I feel like it’s got better and better. The animation is great, but for me I think it distracted me slightly the first time around from the fantastic writing that makes it all work so well. It nails the heart and soul of superheroes better than most live-action superhero movies manage. Looking so stylish is just the icing on the cake.

    So yes, if the sequel can live up to that then it’s going to be great.

    3 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109591

    Saw it today so minimal spoilers starting below – so be warned. I’ll add some spacing.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Loved it to bits. If it doesn’t win the animated movie Oscar again someone needs to be shot.

    The animation is stunning, from the opening titles glitching between different comics fonts and styles I was sold. Then the opening Gwen sequence on the drums is even better.  If there is one criticism that could be made of the first film it is quite busy, it has a lot to do in the runtime and a lot of characters. This gives a lot more room to focus on Gwen and Miles and their families and as such gets you in the ‘feels’ more.

    There is a reason for that, I haven’t kept up with the press to realise this movie would end on a cliffhanger as part one of two but it was a good decision.

    There is loads of fan-service here for comics fans, from the more obvious Spider-Men pointing joke from the meme that everyone got to the obscure Ben Reilly over-narrating what he’s doing in 90s Marvel style. Miles looks like he’s drawn by Sara Pichelli, Miguel like it’s Rick Leonardi, Ben like whatever 90s artist was drawing at the time (I was out of Spider-Man books in that era).

    Highly recommended. Can’t wait for the next one and as many as they want to make.

     

    3 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109594

    Loved it!. Story wise it lives up to the first one and has just as much heart. Loved the continued evolution of Miles and his parents relationship and how that plays in the larger plot. Gwen is still a treat and this is as much her film as it is Miles. The opening scene with her was great. Ben Reilly looking and speaking like a 90’s comic was hilarious. Baby MaydayParker was adorable. There’s just so many little background things to see that I’ll definitely need to see this again.

    The animation is mind blowingly good. The different styles for the characters and their worlds and just the sheer scale of the locations and characters on screen is astonishing.

    I do wonder how casual audiences will react to the ending though. Because this is very much a part 1 and doesn’t resolve the story at all. But it does leave off on a very good set up for the next movie.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by Ian Smith.
    2 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109596

    I saw it today too. For me it was good but not quite great – although that’s partly because we’ve only had half the story so far, and partly because the first one sets such a high bar (that this one comes close to in places but doesn’t match overall.)

    I thought the animation was incredible – sometimes dazzling like the world of Spider-Man India (a segment which my fairly diverse Birmingham audience loved) and sometimes more subtle and artistic, like Gwen’s world.

    I also thought there were some great action scenes, like the main chase with Spidey 2099 when he goes after Miles.

    I thought the new multiversal Spider-Men were lots of fun, particularly Spider-Man India and Spider-Punk, who was played really well.

    And I felt like some of the more emotional character scenes were handled really nicely, and were given more time to breathe and to ‘land’ than in most live-action superhero movies.

    I also loved all the various cameos and references that I spotted (and I’m sure there are loads more I missed that I’ll see on repeat viewings). Ben Reilly was a favourite but also the Lego world and the PlayStation Spidey and the live-action cameos were lots of fun. Weirdly the Venom live-action segment got the biggest reaction with my audience.

    But there were a couple of aspects that didn’t work so well for me.

    First of all, it’s too long – it doesn’t have that same tightness and not-a-moment-wasted feel of the first one, and there are scenes that could have been trimmed or cut without losing too much from the movie.

    And that goes particularly for the ending, which is the second complaint: it builds and builds and hits a climax and feels like it should end… and then there’s like ten extra minutes of deflation before the “To Be Continued”, which felt like a real letdown. Thankfully I knew it was a two-parter beforehand but there were loud groans in my cinema. Which I think might have been less loud if it ended on a genuinely climactic moment rather than overdoing the various endings.

    And then finally there’s the whole device of Miguel’s “canon events” which feels like a real cop-out and which my son struggled to get his head around as the central plot point of the movie. It reminds me of the Fixed Moments In Time stuff from Doctor Who, which has always been a fudge. It just didn’t get explained sufficiently and discussed in enough depth to have a whole movie revolve around it – presumably because it doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny.

    However I kind of expect it to be taken apart and questioned in the third movie – and that’s why at this point I feel like I can’t really fully judge this film on its own, because it’s really just the first half of one big story.

    I did like the final twist with the villainous Miles though. For me it had echoes of the bad-1985 stuff from Back To The Future 2 (and addresses a question that gets kind of dodged in that movie about what kind of person the Marty from bad-1985 turns out to be).

    I’ll look forward to the third movie, and hopefully like the first one this is a movie that feels good on first viewing but will upgrade to great as I watch it some more and pick up on aspects I might have missed.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
  • #109598

    I do wonder how casual audiences will react to the ending though.

    I think in my screening it was a bit mixed or muted to be honest.

    I think with this kind of thing transparency is probably better to set expectations, with BTTF 2+3 in 1989 or even the last Avengers movies being done back to back a cliffhanger ending was rather expected.

    Is it a big deal? Probably not, the reaction to the rest of the film was very positive so I am sure they will be back.

     

  • #109631

    I just saw it and I LOVED IT!!!!

    That was a true entertainment feast. Fantastic action but most importantly, it had heart and character. They had depth. The animation even had micro expressions that really captured the emotions of the characters.

    Major props for tying into the MCU and Sony Spider-Man movies in a fun and seamless way.

    My biggest complaint is that I have to wait till next year to see the next movie.

    I had an amazing experience! 😎

    2 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109657

    It’s scored a deservedly big opening weekend.

    https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/box-office-spiderman-across-the-spiderverse-opening-weekend-1235632404/

     

  • #109658

    There are some great videos on Youtube looking at the tiny details in the film. For example when Miles’ mom gets angry he got a B in Spanish her exclamation of disappointment is a tiny Puerto Rican flag. There are so many little easter eggs it’s off the scale. Even going back to the first film the spider that bites Miles glitches, already telling us it came from another universe.

    It’s such a labour of love that the British punk Spider-Man has different parts of his body running at different frame rates to represent a level of anarchy. They don’t need to go to that effort to make a hit film but they did which takes it a level above.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109664

    I thought it was awesome even though I didn’t realize it was part 1 of 2. It’s always a bit funny to me how animated movies often get far better scripts than live action movies. Not that this movie would work nearly as well in any other form, but the story has a heart that live action blockbusters often lack. Across the Spiderverse is pretty much everything I could want out of a Spider-Man movie so I’m glad we’ll be getting one more next year. This could very easily become the best superhero movie trilogy of all time for me if Beyond the Spiderverse is anywhere near the level of the first two. And there’s no reason to believe it won’t be.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109668

    There are some great videos on Youtube looking at the tiny details in the film. For example when Miles’ mom gets angry he got a B in Spanish her exclamation of disappointment is a tiny Puerto Rican flag. There are so many little easter eggs it’s off the scale. Even going back to the first film the spider that bites Miles glitches, already telling us it came from another universe.

    It’s such a labour of love that the British punk Spider-Man has different parts of his body running at different frame rates to represent a level of anarchy. They don’t need to go to that effort to make a hit film but they did which takes it a level above.

    I think just about every frame of the movie has an easter egg in it.

  • #109669

    Miguel like it’s Rick Leonardi

    For me, a lot of the Miguel scenes, especially when he’s unmasked, look like he was drawn by John Romita Jr.

  • #109670

    I haven’t seen it, but i do plan to buy the Blu-ray so I’ll probably wait until then.

    But why am I reading spoilers about it? Have to stop that…

    https://www.gamesradar.com/spider-verse-miles-prowler-colors-purple-green/

  • #109672

    buy the Blu-ray so I’ll probably wait until then.

    See it in the cinema! If ever anything deserves it, it’s this film. You’re going to lose so much on the small screen.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
  • #109674

    Holy shit. The right wing dickheads are about to lose thier minds, regardless if this is true or not.

    Spider-Man fans are convinced Gwen Stacy is trans in Across the Spider-Verse. Here’s the evidence

    There’s going to be a “Ban this sick filth!” if this gets any traction. Get your popcorn in early.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
  • #109684

    Miguel like it’s Rick Leonardi

    For me, a lot of the Miguel scenes, especially when he’s unmasked, look like he was drawn by John Romita Jr.

    Yeah I can see that, both have quite an angular style to how they draw.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
  • #109892

    https://www.gamesradar.com/across-the-spider-verse-sound-fix/

  • #110019

    I wasn’t able to go and see this on release and I thought I’d just wait for the blu-ray (which’ll onyl be a couple of months, surely). But dodging spoilers is getting tiresome, so I managed to go see it today.

    Glad I did, because much like the first one (which I rewatched last night and actually loved even more than the previous times I’ve seen it) it’s definitely a film for the big screen. But also definitely a film for blu-ray – I’m going to have a lot of fun looking for freeze-frame gags and references in it.

    I thought it was really great. The animation was excellent and the way the different universes are depicted very clever. I loved the host of Spider-people (Andy Samberg as Scarlet Spider especially) and all the fan service (Donald Glover! Josh Keaton’s Spectacular Spidey!) Really great.

    I knew it was going to be a bit Matrix 2 and end on a cliffhanger and that didn’t get a huge reaction in my screening (of about seven people) except one woman, I think there with her kid, saying “to be continued? what does that mean?”

     

    One question though: how come they changed Miles’s Dad’s surname from Davis to Morales? Is that because someone realised his name was Jefferson Davis (like the only Confederate President)? Or to avoid confusion over him having a different surname to Miles (which I don’t really get to begin with)? And how come they didn’t change Uncle Aaron’s too?

    1 user thanked author for this post.
  • #110024

    And how come they didn’t change Uncle Aaron’s too?

    Well, Morales is a Hispanic name so presumably comes from Miles’ mother’s side of the family. Maybe his dad changed his surname to match hers instead of the other way around?

  • #110025

    I read something on it a while back. Basically in the original comics Bendis didn’t bother to explain why Miles followed his mother’s surname. It’s not unusual in the world but usually when parents have split acrimoniously which his clearly have not.

    So it was later written in that Jefferson didn’t want Miles to have the Davis surname because of criminality in his family (his dad was a crook apparently) and then later changed his own surname to Morales too.

    I’ll assume that happened ‘off-panel’ in the movie versions.

  • #110026

    Also, calling your son Miles Davis might have made him kind of blue.

    4 users thanked author for this post.
  • #110032

    Also, calling your son Miles Davis might have made him kind of blue.

    Only in a Spanish key.

  • #110052

    Early Spider-Woman concept art:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CtSBZJ1tZ7N/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

  • #110965

    Finally saw this, and loved it. Like everybody has said, the animation is absolutely incredible and beautiful. And I thought that the interaction between the characters and the emotional angle of the story all worked very well. Also, it was just a lot of great fun.

    Tiny teeny bits that didn’t quite work for me were some of the characters’ actions that were written to fit the plot but were not true to the characters or realistic (like Miles’ parents telling Gwen to tell Miles they love him when she says she’ll go out looking for him instead of his dad grabbing her and saying “You must be out of your mind if you think I’m just letting you go like that, we will now go out together to look for my son and you will tell me everything that is going on!”). Also, the canon thing didn’t quite work for me – like Dave says -, especially given the overemphasis on YOU’LL DIE THE SECOND YOU’RE MADE CAPTAIN!!!! but apparently not if you’re not made Captain. That just seems a bit too silly.

    Other than that, just fantastic. And I actually didn’t know what the ending was going to be, so I was dumbfounded when that happened, but I was also fine with it.

    3 users thanked author for this post.
  • #110995

Viewing 26 replies - 1 through 26 (of 26 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Skip to toolbar