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Marvel Movies & TV: The MCU and beyond
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When you gotta burn a bridge, you gotta burn a bridge…
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When you gotta burn a bridge, you gotta burn a bridge…
That’d be quite a bridge to burn.
Johansson claims that her salary was based on the box office performance of the film, which opened strong with $80m in the US but suffered the steepest second week decline of any entry within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, dropping 67%. Exhibitors later criticised Disney, blaming the hybrid release for the drop.
The National Association of Theatre Owners, which represents about 30,000 screens in the US, sent out a press release saying that the performance “demonstrates that an exclusive theatrical release means more revenue for all stakeholders in every cycle of the movie’s life”.
Disney announced in March that the $200m-budgeted film would go to cinemas while also being available to rent on Disney+ for $30. The studio claimed that it made $60m via rentals in its opening weekend. Its global haul currently stands at $319m, one of the lowest-performing Marvel films to date.
The complaint claims that Johansson’s lawyers reached out in 2019 to Disney with concerns about the film being given a multi-platform release. They later tried to renegotiate her contract after the release strategy was changed.
Honestly, she’s got a point.
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Maybe it is not a big a bridge as you think
https://www.cbr.com/kevin-feige-angry-ashamed-black-widow-lawsuit/
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How many Marvel characters are there?
Freddy Freeman, Billy Batson, Mary Marvel and some other dudes. I don’t know. Seven? Does Black Adam count?
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-total-number-of-superheroes-in-Marvel
According to the above, there are somewhere in the region of 7,000 superheroes in the Marvel Universe.
Presumably, clones are extra.
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The Marvel wiki lists 72,682 character pages, but that includes every alternate version of all the characters. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters
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Somewhere the current writer of The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe is frantically pouring another cup of coffee.
If only Marvel paid better he could afford cocaine, the poor sod.
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How many Marvel characters are there?
Do they all have to be in the MCU and/or have their own show on Disney+?
I won’t be satisfied until I see Moon Boy and Devil Dinosaur team up with the Rawhide Kid to battle Fin Fang Foom in IMAX. And you all know you want to see that too!!
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The Marvel wiki lists 72,682 character pages
Hey, I was pretty close
trademarked 7,000 characters and have another 70,000 that weren’t important enough to trademark
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Somewhere the current writer of The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe is frantically pouring another cup of coffee.
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Somewhere the current writer of The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe is frantically pouring another cup of coffee.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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Do they all have to be in the MCU and/or have their own show on Disney+?
In all seriousness, I’m sure Disney/Marvel has been combing through the comics to find characters that are viable for TV and movies. They have pretty much burned through some of the biggest names. With the acquisition of Fox, they got a major infusion with the Fantastic Four and X-Men properties. That alone will add another 10+ years to the MCU in terms of content.
The biggest issue for the MCU is that the actors do get older and and want to move on. It gets harder to maintain the physical shape for the role. It’s not like the comics where a character can perpetually remain the same age. The opening up of the multiverse will mitigate some of that but only to a certain point. They are moving forward with replacement characters (Captain America and Black Widow, for example).
I think it will be interesting to see what happens in about 10 years.
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It’s interesting really because I’ve always sensed a lot of the reluctance to stick with legacy characters in the comics is more down to the creators/companies than the fans.
If you look at the X-Men, as the best selling comic in the 1980s by some distance, Claremont’s plan was to retire characters and gradually replace the cast. By about 120 issues in he had only two of the original New X-Men on the roster and it never dipped in sales. It was editorial that forced it back to a ‘status quo’ concept rather than fan demand.
The Avengers roster was similar. MCU could theoretically just run by 80s comics rules again, we know with things like Guardians the popularity of the comic isn’t really important to the film.
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we know with things like Guardians the popularity of the comic isn’t really important to the film.
Does this mean a KILLRAVEN film just got the green light?!
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we know with things like Guardians the popularity of the comic isn’t really important to the film.
Does this mean a KILLRAVEN film just got the green light?!
It’s coming right after Woodgod but before the Aquarian.
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we know with things like Guardians the popularity of the comic isn’t really important to the film.
Does this mean a KILLRAVEN film just got the green light?!
It’s coming right after Woodgod but before the Aquarian.
What about the Jack of Hearts movie?
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What about the Jack of Hearts movie?
Right after the Lockjaw solo film.
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Star Wars Episode A: Indiana Jones and the Frozen Avengers.
TAKE MY MONEY!! TAKE ALL OF IT!!!
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njerry wrote:
Right after the Lockjaw solo film.
Does this come before or after the Pet Avengers?
I see a Lockjaw movie, followed by a film featuring Lockheed the dragon, then another starring Ka-Zar’s sabertooth Zabu, and of course the long-awaited Alligator Loki feature, all leading to an updated Pet Avengers 4-hour film in 2025 where those four stars join forces with Devil Dinosaur fresh off his crossover with Fin Fang Foom.
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By which point Disney will have also purchased the rights to the Paw Patrol universe for the inevitable crossover. I mean, it lines up perfectly.
Chase = Captain America
Marshall = Iron Man
Rubble = Hulk
Rocky = Thor
Skye = Scarlet Witch
Zuma = Hawkeye
Tracker = Black Panther
Everest = Captain Marvel
Ryder = Nick Fury
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Does that mean Mayor Humdinger is Thanos?
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"The name is Captain Carter" 🇬🇧
Check out the first in a series of posters inspired by Marvel Studios' #WhatIf and get ready to see Peggy Carter in a whole new way when the Original Series starts streaming August 11 on @DisneyPlus. Art by @freyabettsart. pic.twitter.com/QOw3T8WTf6
— Marvel Entertainment (@Marvel) August 3, 2021
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I’m hoping that WHAT IF, finally, will justify the cost of my subscription to Disney+; if not, I’ll just have to pray that Season 3 of The Mandalorian is delivered soon.
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I’m hoping that WHAT IF, finally, will justify the cost of my subscription to Disney+; if not, I’ll just have to pray that Season 3 of The Mandalorian is delivered soon.
The Mandalorian S3 isn’t even filming until next year, Pascal is busy on The Last of Us. Probably air late 2022/early 2023.
The Boba Fett mini series will probably be on near the end of the year or early 2022.
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I’m hoping that WHAT IF, finally, will justify the cost of my subscription to Disney+; if not, I’ll just have to pray that Season 3 of The Mandalorian is delivered soon.
If you haven’t already, check out Zenimation. It is a hidden gem on Disney+.
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The first look at Christian Bale as Gorr the God Butcher in Thor: Love and Thunder!
Filming has resumed in Malibu
(via Daily Mail) pic.twitter.com/2RHo4zG1VJ
— Thor: Love and Thunder News (@lovethundernews) August 4, 2021
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What are you checking out on Disney+ these days?
Like most people here, I watched the two seasons of THE MANDALORIAN and the three Marvel shows to date. Beyond that, I’ve rewatched some older MCU and Star Wars films. That’s about it; but based on recommendations above (and elsewhere), I may check out ZENIMATION and the current animated Star Wars series.
What about you, @al-x?
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the current animated Star Wars series.
The Bad Batch is enjoyable. I find it similar to Rebels if you have seen that. if you have not seen Rebels definitely check it out
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You have $15 to fight Thanos. Who do you go with?
That’ll be three (3) Captains Marvel for me, thank you.
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So does Falcon get upgraded to $5 now?
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Mantis is good value, considering she would have subdued Thanos if Starlord didn’t lose his common sense.
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Mantis is good value, considering she would have subdued Thanos if Starlord didn’t lose his common sense.
I assume the $4 for Star-Lord is so you can glue him into a locker on the Milano, as opposed to having him on your team.
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so you can glue him into a locker on the Milano
Rip his mask off and airlock him into space.
Use practical “effects” so we don’t get any more Pratt nonsense.
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Hawkeye is a dollar more than Nick Fury? Bullshit!
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Hawkeye is a dollar more than Nick Fury? Bullshit!
Fury’s depth perception is crap though.
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Mantis is good value, considering she would have subdued Thanos if Starlord didn’t lose his common sense.
Starlord should be -4 dollars. Then you can buy Rocket to shut him up and still make a profit.
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I’ll take the concept that there are not multiples. Thor is stronger than Marvel. Panther allows you access to Wakanda, Strange is Strange, Rocket is your engineer, Falcon can be used for distraction and scouting.
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Interesting to see a director just stating outright that his experiences have shown that he isn’t equipped to deal with big studios and will rather stick to the small screen now.
Kevin Smith is similar. He says all the time he was promoted above his competency with big budget films and so went back to what he was doing.
I think this is probably very common in the world but very rare for people to admit to it.
I remember Estelle Morris, who was education minister in the UK in the early 2000s, resigned saying she didn’t think she was good enough to do the job. I think that’s been true of dozens of ministers over the years but she’s the only who could see it and admit it.
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Meet Sersi, who has a soft spot for humans. @gemma_chan and @TheEternals cast assemble, introducing Marvel's family of immortals to protect mankind from their oldest enemy. https://t.co/2FEew28l1D Story by @devancoggan pic.twitter.com/JjnZdSe6CA
— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) August 18, 2021
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Good trailer, I thought. Gives an outline of who they are and what they’re going to do, as well as answering *the* question everybody is going to ask, without actually giving away the entire movie.
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Well that CGI monster/alien at the end does look like ass, so we’ll see…
In other news, people are REALLY raving about Shang Chi… apparently it’s a top tier MCU movie. If so, they might want to fire whoever did those boring trailers (same company who did the Eternals trailers maybe?), but I’m not ready to fall for the hype yet…
And since it comes out… I don’t even know when… and then no D+ day-and-date this time… who the fuck knows when I’ll get to see it.
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What happens now?
Maybe stop giving a shit about China? I’m sure Marvel will survive without the extra couple hundred millions.
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China is so persnickety about what they will and won’t allow in movies that at some point Disney is just going to have to tell them to go fuck themselves. They’re already compromising the movies for the global audience to appease those assholes, and enough is enough.
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It’s an partial adaptation of One More Day? What an odd choice.
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It’s an partial adaptation of One More Day? What an odd choice.
At least this one makes more logical sense than MJ making a deal with the devil to save the life of an endlessly decrepit Aunt May all because Joe Quesada wanted to pretend Spider-Man never got married so he’d feel younger. Even though Ultimate Spider-Man existed and was a great outlet for anyone interested in stories about a younger Peter Parker.
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On the other hand, they’ve been bending over backwards for China, and if even Chang Shi doesn’t get shown there, they might get to the point where they go fuck it.
I’d say it’s a lot more nuanced really and probably a bit too random.
China has always had a limit on foreign films allowed a release every year. There are a lot of hyperbolic stories on western films being ‘banned’ in China where effectively they are using a policy similar to France. They aren’t really banned just they don’t make the list.
However I do think that means that any ‘Hollywood’ movie needs to see China receipts as a bonus. If you figure it in as a guarantee of returns that;s an error.
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On the other hand, they’ve been bending over backwards for China, and if even Chang Shi doesn’t get shown there, they might get to the point where they go fuck it.
I’d say it’s a lot more nuanced really and probably a bit too random.
China has always had a limit on foreign films allowed a release every year. There are a lot of hyperbolic stories on western films being ‘banned’ in China where effectively they are using a policy similar to France. They aren’t really banned just they don’t make the list.
However I do think that means that any ‘Hollywood’ movie needs to see China receipts as a bonus. If you figure it in as a guarantee of returns that;s an error.
I assume movies like Iron Man 3 and Trans4mers that had China-adjacent plots that had additional scenes shot and edited into their Chinese release did so with advance knowledge that they were going to make the list.
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I can’t really get past the idea that Strange would do it
watching the part where he is casting the spell, he could be thinking “i do this small spell and it is over”. But Peter interferes with the spell’s intent and now shit starts to fly. I was talking to a friend about this though and I said “both of them are geniuses and know that you shouldn’t interfere with a complex process once it has begun” I did not go out of my way to see it but it was everywhere so I saw it but I would rather have it be that we don’t all amped up and excited for Trailers and we wait for the actual movie to come out before we start dissecting it and analyzing how the film did. I realize the impossibility of that though
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I assume movies like Iron Man 3 and Trans4mers that had China-adjacent plots that had additional scenes shot and edited into their Chinese release did so with advance knowledge that they were going to make the list.
There is a workaround to that extent, films largely funded or filmed in China (plus Hong Kong and Macau) do circumvent the ‘foreign’ rule. In truth that’s true of France too and I only say that as we tend to like to ‘other’ things societies do which are quite similar to what we actually do ourselves.
US airlines have rejected female wear on flights if it’s too risque, Europe and Japan have more open approaches to public nudity. The BBC since the the 1990s has not given prime time slots on BBC1 to any American originated programming. China is and hasn’t done anything that outside what is common in Europe. French radio has a government set percentage of songs they can play in English.
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Not sure how I feel about a black and gold Spider-Man costume. Those are Black Panther colors.
They’re both great Jewish heroes.
I wonder if they’ll go the route of Superior Spider Man in one of the future films now that Octavius is in the picture. I actually enjoyed that series for the most part.
