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What it says on the tin.

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  • #64929

    Thank you, Mr. Jones.

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  • #64934

    OK, he’s in

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  • #64936

    I had ‘Me and Mrs Jones’ played when we walked in for our wedding reception.

    I know it’s a song about someone having an affair, which isn’t that apt for a wedding really, but the main line was too good not to use.

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  • #64937

    I’ve heard about people having “Reasons” played at their wedding and that’s about a one-night stand.

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  • #64940

    I think inappropriate songs are petty common at weddings. I’ve seen Careless Whisper as a first dance a lot of times and that’s about regret at cheating on someone.

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  • #64941

    See also: Every Breath You Take.

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  • #64947

    See also: Every Breath You Take.

    A perfectly lovely song for when you marry your stalker.

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  • #64976

    I think inappropriate songs are petty common at weddings. I’ve seen Careless Whisper as a first dance a lot of times and that’s about regret at cheating on someone.

    My uncle left the dance floor when “Billie Jean” came on at my cousin’s wedding. Inappropriate song for more than one reason! (Although I still love it and can’t knock my cousin for putting it on the playlist.)

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  • #64979

    White Wedding. He stared at me, but I was the best man and in a tux, so I got my way.
    Lots of laughs, a few eyebrows raised too.

  • #65024

    This cryptocurrency involves a lot of powerful PCs and graphics cards to generate it, taking away from the average gaming consumer who want graphics cards for gaming. Few people understand what it is and the jury is still out on whether the whole is a speculative bubble about to burst.

    There have been so many new “get rich quick” opportunities and financial gossip since the Gold Rush on the US West Coast over a hundred years ago.

  • #65026

    Getting “Video unavailable
    This video is not available”

    What was that supposed to be?

  • #65028

    Mr Jones by S.P.O.C.K. some sort of dance electronica act.

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  • #65029

    Always considered this a sort of response to “Me and Mrs. Jones”:

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  • #65055

    552D7CA8-3429-46C2-BA16-90F4415CED2E

  • #65064

    Torn between Black Panther and Magneto

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  • #65065

    This cryptocurrency involves a lot of powerful PCs and graphics cards to generate it, taking away from the average gaming consumer who want graphics cards for gaming. Few people understand what it is and the jury is still out on whether the whole is a speculative bubble about to burst.

    AMD have been designing processors specifically for crypto mining now. They need the power but they don’t need the 3D rendering abilities of your usual GPU to work out their algorithms.

    It’s hoped that will stop the huge price surge for graphics cards so gamers don’t suffer.

  • #65234

    Adele, Rebel Wilson, and Kelly Osborne have all respectively lost a great deal of weight. Now each of them are dating the field, posing on the beach, and basically doing the “hot girl sh*t” that they have seen others do…

    I think it’s wonderful that are enjoying their lives.

    More power to them!

  • #65711

    Amazon Prime Day is June 21st (starting at 3AM EDT) and 22nd in many countries around the globe, just not Canada and India (due to Covid concerns).
    Will they make it up to us at a later date? Of course. But some things are in conjunction with the companies, and DC, Marvel, and Image don’t really do anything special outside the U.S. and the UK in the first place.
    Bastards! Ah well.

    Amazon’s Prime Day 2021 will be taking place in the U.S., the U.K., the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Spain, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Portugal, Netherlands, Mexico, Luxembourg, Japan, Italy, Germany, France, China, Brazil, Belgium, Austria, and Australia.

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  • #65738

    I have no idea what Amazon Prime Day is. Is it like Bandcamp Friday?

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  • #65743

    I have no idea what Amazon Prime Day is. Is it like Bandcamp Friday?

    I have no idea what Bandcamp Friday is. Is it like Amazon Prime Day?

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  • #65826

    Science Says Gingers Have More Sex

  • #65837

    Science Says Gingers Have More Sex

    Makes sense since it’s the only way they can feel as they have no souls.

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  • #65838

    257DE48C-82BF-46C8-8F4D-32751DB25F0A

  • #65878

    I will never eat seared tuna again.

  • #65905

    I will never eat seared tuna again.

    Try Dutch herring! I think there is a shop in NYC, Russ and Daughters that sells it. (Though I can’t vouch for the quality)

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  • #65928

    Try Dutch herring! I think there is a shop in NYC, Russ and Daughters that sells it. (Though I can’t vouch for the quality)

    Russ and Daughters has good-quality stuff; I drove past the shop (on East Houston Street) last Sunday and the line of customers stretched down the street despite the cold and rainy weather.

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  • #66093

    I was reading the news today about a woman murdered and identified by her dental records, which isn’t an unusual thing to read or see in TV dramas.

    It got me thinking though, who has your dental records? When did they take them?

    I mean I went to the dentist to have some treatment a few months back but I don’t recall anyone taking a record or any kind of imprint or x-ray of my teeth. I can’t recall that back when I was in the UK either. Is it taken secretly? Are my dentists remiss?

  • #66095

    I had imprints of mine taken quite regularly as a youngster when I was fitted for braces etc. and I’ve had quite a few X-rays in recent years too.

    Basically, don’t murder me because my dental records are well up to date.

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  • #66096

    Yeah I never had braces, also the dental practice I went to as a kid has been knocked down. Do they keep the records forever and where would they be now?

    Apart from checkups I’ve only had a few fillings and one extraction, I can’t remember any x-rays.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m unusual, they always seem to find these dental records but it just got me thinking about the whole process of doing it. Maybe they don’t have records for many people but you just never hear that said in reports, they just remain unidentified or identified another way.

  • #66097

    Basically, don’t murder me because my dental records are well up to date.

    Aw.

    (Holsters machete and slowly walks backwards.)

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  • #66100

    I was reading the news today about a woman murdered and identified by her dental records, which isn’t an unusual thing to read or see in TV dramas. It got me thinking though, who has your dental records? When did they take them? I mean I went to the dentist to have some treatment a few months back but I don’t recall anyone taking a record or any kind of imprint or x-ray of my teeth. I can’t recall that back when I was in the UK either. Is it taken secretly? Are my dentists remiss?

    It is a headache. First, there is no state or national or even citywide registry of dental records. The police need a PTB on the dead person which simply means “presumed to be.” There might be just a few missing people who could be the unknown person, and then the medical examiner has to contact the family of the missing person and get the name of their dentist if they had one at any point in their life or dentists if they had many. Then they try to get the most recent records and it’s like fingerprinting looking for enough points of similarity to make a match.

    In cases where they have no clue, often it will be years later that they’ve gone through a bunch of dental records before they find a match. A lot of that depends on if there was a record of a missing person in another case whose dental records failed to be matched to other bodies. The whole process is time consuming and, honestly, most of the time, the police are already pretty sure who the dead person is and the dental records comparison is simply forensic so that they have solid proof to present in court that this body is the person they argue it is.

    It’s not like there are all these unidentified dead bodies showing up out of the blue. Most dead people are identified informally by police almost right away, but like detectives say, “what you know and what you can prove in court are not at all the same thing.”

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  • #66117

    I get an x-ray taken of my teeth every couple of years. So it’s good to know that if I get slaughtered and end up an unrecognizable mess, I will quickly  be identified by my dental records.

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  • #66121

    Basically, don’t murder me because my dental records are well up to date.

    Or I could just pull all your teeth out after I kill you. :rose:

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  • #66122

    I get an x-ray taken of my teeth every couple of years.

    I’ve been seeing the same dentist for over 35 years now, and every two years he takes X-rays. I figure it’s just his way of charging an extra fee on top of the fee for the visit, but I don’t mind.

  • #66126

    Basically, don’t murder me because my dental records are well up to date.

    Or I could just pull all your teeth out after I kill you. :rose:

    You’ll have to get to me before Christian does!

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  • #66127

    I thought dental records just referred to whether or not you’d had any extractions, fillings etc. I dont think anyone’s x-raying the teeth of dead bodies are they?

  • #66148

    It’s not like there are all these unidentified dead bodies showing up out of the blue.

    You’re clearly not watching the right TV shows.

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  • #66414

    Jeff Bezos plans to go to outer space creating a billionaire space race between him, Elon Musk, and Richard Branson.

    No comment… for now.

    ———

    MacKenzie Scott, recently divorced from Jeff Bezos, who received $37B from him in the divorce, apparently gave billions away to charity. While it is none of our business as it is her money, many said she should go easy on the charity donation amounts, but she isn’t stupid… It is all a tax write-off!

    ———–

    Back to Jeff – So, is he $37B poorer? Not at all! Reports say that afterwards, he earned another $72B because we are all shut-ins from the pandemic and for the most part, all order online.

    No comment again… for now.

  • #66418

    While it is none of our business as it is her money, many said she should go easy on the charity donation amounts, but she isn’t stupid… It is all a tax write-off!

    Is there much point for her in a tax write-off though? I mean if it’s a divorce settlement then it’s a lump sum and she doesn’t receive regular income.

    In all honesty if I had $37bn I’d do the same, not because I’m the most virtuous man on Earth but what are you going to spend it on? I think it was Steve that shared the graphic the other day but it is hard to fathom how much money that is, you could live a life of unspeakable luxury and hedonism and still have $35bn left. It’s like Brewster’s Millions, you literally couldn’t spend it on stuff.

    It’s why these multi-billionaires are clearly psychopaths. For a start they keep working, what’s the point in that? Sit in your mansion and paint or something, why answer emails?

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  • #66420

    Fwiw, the last episode of Keeping Up With The Kardashians aired last night.

    It was the series finale…

    No more!

    https://images.app.goo.gl/JrzRmXaxTiysjH167

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  • #66432

    We’ve finally caught up to the Kardashians?

  • #66434

    No comment… for now.

  • #66476

    No comment… for now.

    Could you let us know when we can expect a comment from you, Al? I’d like to make a note in my diary.

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  • #66486

    Tune in next time…

    Same Bat time
    Same Bat channel

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  • #66561

    Someone asked about why billionaires like Bezos don’t do more and here is a fitting answer:

    https://www.boredpanda.com/jeff-bezos-batman-tweet-honest-business/

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  • #66565

    British accent anyone?

    https://www.boredpanda.com/british-people-be-like/

  • #66566

    The British accent thing is an interesting one because there is so much regional variation (even within England let alone Wales and Scotland), especially in vowel sounds. So for a lot of those examples, they sound very different depending on which part of the country you go to.

    I’m sure this is true of other countries too, but there really is no such thing as a British accent.

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  • #66607

    We’ve finally caught up to the Kardashians?

    Maybe…

    Thing is: With the exception of the oldest one Kourtney, the other four and the mother (who pimped them out btw), date and have children with black men. Interracial preference… So what’s the catch?

  • #66611

    there really is no such thing as a British accent.

    No and the examples there seem mainly to be Cockney/London accents and the ‘glottal stop’ for the letter T, the Bri ish example. I don’t think any of the Brits here would use the glottal stop. My Ts are loud and proud.

    The article is a little bit like using a strong Noo Yawk accent and going ‘ so Americans talk like…’.

     

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  • #66612

    I don’t think any of the Brits here would use the glottal stop.

    I would, and I’m a middle-class Surrey boy. Not all the time, but in general conversation with my peers, I’m just as likely to say “Bri-ish” as “British.” It’s the same as in most languages, in general conversation you just eat the occasional letter for the sake of expediency.

  • #66613

    there really is no such thing as a British accent.

    No and the examples there seem mainly to be Cockney/London accents and the ‘glottal stop’ for the letter T, the Bri ish example. I don’t think any of the Brits here would use the glottal stop. My Ts are loud and proud.

    The article is a little bit like using a strong Noo Yawk accent and going ‘ so Americans talk like…’.

     

    Yeah, I wonder what the equivalent is for a generic American accent. I guess something fairly broad and nondescript like the one Hugh Laurie does in House or something.

    From film and TV I can definitely identify certain regional US accents (New York, Boston etc. as well as wider stuff like indicators of a southern accent) but there are still large parts of the country where I would struggle to be able to say what someone from that region would sound like.

  • #66616

    It’s the same as in most languages, in general conversation you just eat the occasional letter for the sake of expediency.

    Sure but which letters those are can be very variable. While it would be common to drop the T in British in one area like SE England, in say North Wales / Liverpool T and S are very prominent even in casual conversation.

    Where I come from for example we wouldn’t do Bri ish but we would say ‘gorra’ for ‘got to’ or drop the odd H.

  • #66625

    I noticed I have a low clickbait resistance when it comes to cats. I saw a “paid content” link saying “this stray cat walked into a hospital asking doctors for help!” and almost immediately clicked on it.

     

    I sometimes watch cat videos on youtube which are, admittedly, supercute and hilarious, but when I see they have millions of views, I think, what the hell, are those people millionaires now because they made a silly cat video?

  • #66627

    The British accent thing is an interesting one because there is so much regional variation (even within England let alone Wales and Scotland), especially in vowel sounds. So for a lot of those examples, they sound very different depending on which part of the country you go to.

    I’m sure this is true of other countries too, but there really is no such thing as a British accent.

    I think it’s true for most larger countries or regions. Italy for instance has many dialects which are unintelligible to people from other Italian regions.

     

    In the two Holland provinces and Utrecht the big cities all have their own accents. Rotterdam, Utrecht, The Hague and Amsterdam all have their own accents, with Amsterdam using a lot of words from Yiddish and Hebrew, but they’re easily intelligible for other Dutch people. The dialects from Eastern parts of the country are quite divergent from standard Dutch, with some technically being another language.

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  • #66632

    Yeah, I wonder what the equivalent is for a generic American accent. I guess something fairly broad and nondescript like the one Hugh Laurie does in House or something.

    It’s probably General American, which is used by newscasters.

    Here’s an article about it:
    Why Do Newscasters All Talk the Same?

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  • #66635

    Interesting, I’d never heard of that.

  • #66770

    This is a bizarre sentence in The Guardian today in an article about GB News.

    The channel is broadcast on television and online across Great Britain, as well as in other parts of the United Kingdom such as Northern Ireland.

    Why not just say it is broadcast across the United Kingdom? What other parts of the United Kingdom are there apart from Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    Did the journalist have a word limit they had to reach?

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  • #66778

    Presumably it is intended to be a bit arch and they are pointing out the slight silliness and vague jingoism of using the GB News name for a UK channel.

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  • #66791

    What other parts of the United Kingdom are there apart from Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    The Isles of Man, Orkney, Skye, Shetland, Wight… should I go on?

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  • #66792

    I haven’t watched any of GB News (or GBeebies, as it’s been dubbed) but I’m surprised/disappointed by some of the people involved. Colin Brazier? Yeah, sure, I can see that. Simon McCoy? Disappointing, but I suppose a good newsreader hides their political leanings. The guy off Coast? Weird but apparently he’s a massive anti-Lockdown covid conspiracy nutjob. Kirsty Gallacher?! I guess things got desperate after her drunk driving conviction and YouTube killing off her Home Videos show.

    Some others – one of the creators of Jonathan Pie, various failed Brexit Party candidates and a guy from Guido Fawkes – less surprising.

  • #66808

    The Isles of Man, Orkney, Skye, Shetland, Wight… should I go on?

    The Isle of Man is not part of the UK and the other islands tend to be included as part of GB although technically not the main island.

    Saying that I get the point now thanks to Dave that it’s a sarcastic take on the name of the channel.

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  • #66816

    I haven’t watched any of GB News (or GBeebies, as it’s been dubbed) but I’m surprised/disappointed by some of the people involved. Colin Brazier? Yeah, sure, I can see that. Simon McCoy? Disappointing, but I suppose a good newsreader hides their political leanings. The guy off Coast? Weird but apparently he’s a massive anti-Lockdown covid conspiracy nutjob. Kirsty Gallacher?! I guess things got desperate after her drunk driving conviction and YouTube killing off her Home Videos show.

    Since some advertisers have already started pulling out, should we start a sweepstake on how long it lasts? I’ll give it until March 2022 because I’m in a generous mood.

  • #66820

    I’m more pessimistic. It presumably has some generous financial backing to get started with (although from what I’ve heard of the production values, not a huge amount). It can weather losing some advertisers, I think, assuming it manages to create enough scandals that get reported on by other outlets and drive viewers in.

  • #66822

    For anyone who thought This Time With Alan Partridge was in any way unrealistic:

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  • #66829

    I’m more pessimistic. It presumably has some generous financial backing to get started with (although from what I’ve heard of the production values, not a huge amount). It can weather losing some advertisers, I think, assuming it manages to create enough scandals that get reported on by other outlets and drive viewers in.

    The little clips I’ve seen online make it look appallingly amateurish, and I’m not sure there’s a big enough market in the UK for a commercial news channel, no matter how cheap it is.

    People seem to be enjoying trolling it though – “Mike Hunt” was trending briefly on Twitter this morning because they fell for that joke, as well as “Mike Oxlong” within the space of half an hour – so maybe it can survive on just its ability to generate memes.

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  • #66840

    I listened to a podcast about it the other day that delved into some of the details.

    There are issues, it does have backers but as the production values attest to they are not willing to reach that far into their pockets. They will also face Ofcom regulations in trying to make it a Fox News type channel, they have to genuinely try and offer balance so they can’t just rant away on an anti-woke agenda without allowing woke opinions on too. LBC get around that on the radio by splitting their controversial hosts politically, so you get the likes of James O’Brien along with the right wingers.

    They did mention, as has later come to light, that when it comes to the lesser channels on the TV guide no big brand specifically advertises on them. If an ad for Natwest appears on Turbo or Pick or Sky Witness they bought it as a package. The strong reaction to some of the anti-vax stuff though has had advertisers request GB News is removed from that package for them.

    They did say that as much as ratings and ads on TV they would be looking for reach, if they can get viral videos and youtube clips from their material that may also be a revenue driver that possibly could sustain them. I can’t see any scenario though where it has the influence of the US cable news channels that I think they truly want to be.

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  • #66863

    Their much vaunted local stance outside the ‘metropolitan elite’ has taken a quick setback.

    Their roving reporter is quite clearly not in Llandovery but in Birmingham, Britain’s second largest metropolitan area. We can see the area code on the halal shop (for which there is a much lower demand in rural West Wales). They could have managed Cardiff or Swansea at least?

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  • #66865

    I’m impressed that they had the guts to go to Birmingham. It’s a no-go area for non-Muslims you know.

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  • #66879

    Yeah that looks like Alum Rock, a few miles from me.

    Maybe GB News means Glorious Birmingham. Sign me up!

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  • #67079

    I’m not sure how it happened but my feed on LinkedIn have been heavily featuring artists. They will post their work on the site. I’ve really been enjoying it. A few of them I have connected with so they show up more in my feed. I’ve see some very cool art. It’s been really fun and a pleasant surprise.

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  • #67166

    You know…

    Tik Tok used to be mainly known for one minute video snippets of cute girls doing a sexy dance in bikinis, or booty shorts and a tight top. It still is for the most part.

    On a side note, before anyone snickers, some of the girls have over 150 followers (mostly perverts apparently) and have made millions in endorsements as influencers and one even has a TV deal coming. So there is some money in shaking it… Hasn’t there always been?

    Yet, in recent months, many college students and educators worldwide have used their video time to talk social issues and politics ranging from the history and legacy of colonialism, slavery, segregation, genocide, social issues like feminism, and even little things in pop culture.

    I never thought a social media site like that could be so “woke”. I used to read about culture and stuff in the Village Voice and now I can get my fix from Tik Tok.

    Imagine…

  • #67175

    So do you watch the woke stuff after the T&A to make you feel better about yourself afterwards, or do you watch the woke stuff first so you feel like you’ve earned the T&A?

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  • #67176

    Good question…

    I’ll answer later on when I give it more thought.

  • #67188

    “Thought”

  • #67189

    Actually, to tell the truth, the TikTok algorithm as far as I can tell, gives you more content of what you have been watching.

    Here is a little clickbait for those who don’t want to go directly to TikTok. Some have posted it on Youtube…

    Warning: Don’t get addicted and please, put and leave BOTH HANDS on the keyboard. :-)

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=big+bank+tiktok+twerk

  • #67196

    Yet, in recent months, many college students and educators worldwide have used their video time to talk social issues and politics ranging from the history and legacy of colonialism, slavery, segregation, genocide, social issues like feminism, and even little things in pop culture.

    Look for tiktok videos that talk about the tiananmen massacre, it will be enlightening.

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  • #67286

    So, @arjandirkse understands…

    Good

    The woke stuff is very enlightening. I found out everything I thought and did was wrong, even my postings, especially in the relationship thread!😂
    The debates…

    The T&A dancing.😂

    Fair warning: You can scroll for hours before you know it. Can be very addictive.

  • #67288

    So, @arjandirkse understands…

    Good

    The woke stuff is very enlightening. I found out everything I thought and did was wrong, even my postings, especially in the relationship thread!😂
    The debates…

    The T&A dancing.😂

    Fair warning: You can scroll for hours before you know it. Can be very addictive.

    There is nothing about tiananmen on tiktok because tiktok is chinese owned. What you see is what is approved by the Chinese authorities that regulate it. I’m not saying everything on tiktok is bad, but people have to keep in mind it is a propaganda tool.

     

    The thing about tiktok that I don’t get it it doesn’t seems to have a search function. Do people only watch videos the algorithm recommends? If you want to watch something on tiktok on a certain subject, how do you find it? Also when I use it I just get one video which repeats endlessly.

  • #67307

    Yeah….

    And I thought that some of my Thought Provoking Threads in the past were really that…

    Sometimes when I meet someone from another country, I would say a greeting in their language (if I knew it) to help break the ice. I learned that everyone else does it and the person may get very annoyed thinking ‘Not another American trying to impress me again by speaking my own language!”

    Then a lot of guys think they come across as “cool” by not getting excited or passionate about anything, They think that by doing that they come across as in control etc. but sometimes it makes them look boring. nihilistic, and very apathetic.

    In talking to someone you might be interested in, small talk is nice, but it is good to go a little further. Not a tragic or horror story, but something you can both bond with somewhat emotionally and take things from there.

    I could go on, but this TikTok scrolling can be very addictive…

  • #67311

    Sometimes when I meet someone from another country, I would say a greeting in their language (if I knew it) to help break the ice. I learned that everyone else does it and the person may get very annoyed thinking ‘Not another American trying to impress me again by speaking my own language!”

    I’d be hugely surprised if anyone actually thought that. In my experience it’s pretty universally welcomed if someone makes even a small effort to use the local language, even if it’s just ‘hello’ and ‘thank you’.

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  • #67313

    Yakki dah!

  • #67314

    I’d be hugely surprised if anyone actually thought that.

    Yeah especially in smaller countries it is hugely appreciated. Czechs tend to think nobody foreign speaks any Czech, so dobry den and dekuju is always welcome.

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  • #67315

    I’d be hugely surprised if anyone actually thought that. In my experience it’s pretty universally welcomed if someone makes even a small effort to use the local language, even if it’s just ‘hello’ and ‘thank you’.

    True, which is why I said it happens sometimes and with Americans.

    You know, I started a thread in MW about spanking and everyone was against me. Even Jim Ohara at the time told me to drop the thread. Now that I got around to it through TikTok, all these older generation people saying “We got spanked and we turned out Ok” but are they sure about that? Do they care to revisit their experiences as a generation? They criticize the “TimeOut” approach even when their own experiences won’t withstand such scrutiny. Same with divorce: They criticize the modern divorce rate saying “We didn’t divorce like that, we worked things out!” never taking into consideration how things were socially for women at that time. What if there was more freedom and options to divorce?

    So… Am I woke now? Have I become enlightened?

    Stay tuned. Same Bat time, same Bat channel…

  • #67316

    Sometimes when I meet someone from another country, I would say a greeting in their language (if I knew it) to help break the ice. I learned that everyone else does it and the person may get very annoyed thinking ‘Not another American trying to impress me again by speaking my own language!”

    I’d be hugely surprised if anyone actually thought that. In my experience it’s pretty universally welcomed if someone makes even a small effort to use the local language, even if it’s just ‘hello’ and ‘thank you’.

    Absolutely. Even if you haven’t mastered a foreign language, making the effort to learn a few basic words and phrases is a courtesy that’s easy to do and means a lot.

    The alternative is that people think you think you can arrogantly talk in your own language and not have to bother with theirs, which I think is probably a far more common suspicion.

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  • #67331

    True, which is why I said it happens sometimes and with Americans.

    I’d be surprised again. Especially from largely monoglot English speaking countries it’s welcomed even more as they tend to assume speaking English loudly and slowly is a universal tongue.

    So Americans and Brits that make some effort would be welcomed even more.

    The other thing is if you aren’t used to bilingualism people quite frankly find it difficult to adjust to. There’s much amusement here about the perpetual urban myth of English tourists saying ‘they were speaking English until we came into the pub and changed to Welsh’. This must be genuinely believed as it’s repeated endlessly but it really doesn’t happen (also unless they were wearing an England flag as an outfit how would anyone know they were English as they walked in?).

    What they may have possibly heard was sprinklings of English words in the conversation or even just be psychologically expecting it but people almost never codeswitch languages because it’s unnatural. The people I know who are fluent and more comfortable in Welsh I never speak to in English, even though we may speak both, that’s the language of our relationship.

    I had a remote boss once from Hemel Hempstead near London and he came to visit and my old manager, who I only spoke Welsh to, had a quick few sentences in Welsh with me while passing in the corridor. When I got into the meeting room with my boss he said ‘never do that and speak Welsh in front of me again’. I explained to him firstly that his request was illegal under the law and secondly we weren’t talking about him and wouldn’t do that but the first instinct is always that paranoia.

    Here in Malaysia where there are 3 large and different ethnic groups, Malay, Chinese and Indian that’s just accepted. You’ll be in a mixed group with an Indian friend speaking English, they’ll spot someone they know and use Tamil. The rest won’t understand a word but they won’t mind, they aren’t inherently paranoid about it.

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  • #67333

    One person can be impressed and friendly afterwards, another can be “Oh no, not again”. It can be both. It all depends on the reaction. Doesn’t mean that your attempt was a big mistake though.

  • #67337

    There’s much amusement here about the perpetual urban myth of English tourists saying ‘they were speaking English until we came into the pub and changed to Welsh’. This must be genuinely believed as it’s repeated endlessly but it really doesn’t happen (also unless they were wearing an England flag as an outfit how would anyone know they were English as they walked in?).

    Yeah, I used to hear this all the time from adults when I was a kid. I agree it seems like nonsense, and having visited Wales a lot over the years (and gone to a fair few pubs!) I’ve never experienced it myself.

    I think it’s like you say, when you’re not used to multiple languages being used I think there’s greater suspicion of someone speaking a language you don’t understand.

    I do think it’s gradually changing a bit in England though as it becomes more common for friends and colleagues to speak languages other than English with each other. Not often Welsh in my experience but maybe Urdu, Panjabi or Gujurati.

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  • #67338

    They can Al it’s just that ‘oh no. not again’ reaction may possibly exist in some cynical characters, you do get all types. I have to say it’s so rare I’ve never seen or heard of it and I’m very well travelled, so I wouldn’t worry about it.

  • #67354

    If you were to go to prison, which of these guys would you least want to be your cellmate:

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  • #67382

    I think it’s like you say, when you’re not used to multiple languages being used I think there’s greater suspicion of someone speaking a language you don’t understand. I do think it’s gradually changing a bit in England though as it becomes more common for friends and colleagues to speak languages other than English with each other. Not often Welsh in my experience but maybe Urdu, Panjabi or Gujurati.

    Yeah very much so. You see it in the US too with some people hugely angry if they hear Spanish spoken.

    Now there’s a valid argument that people should speak the most common language in a country for communication and integration purposes but some can have that tip over into no other language should ever be spoken (like my boss in that instance). It shouldn’t be your concern if some people choose out of preference to speak another language but it’s not uncommon in the UK that people are quite aggressively against it.

    London papers will print articles that bilingual road signs in Wales will cause traffic accidents and a few pages on in the travel section suggest driving holidays around Europe.

    As you say part of it is just getting used to it, Birmingham having that very large south Asian population means it becomes the norm and you can’t be the centre of the universe of every conversation. Just as if you get on the tube in London on a weekend you’ll hear every language on the planet from tourists, you must have some ego if you imagine that after seeing Big Ben and on the way to the Tower of London they want to talk about some bloke sat on his own in the corner.

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  • #67401

    One of my favourite things about visiting London (remember when we were allowed to do that? :wacko: ) was the sheer amount of languages and accents I heard while walking round the streets. I could hear more in a single afternoon than in a decade of walking round Newcastle. Why would anyone want to eliminate different languages and lose that? It’s like wanting to eliminate all but one flavour of ice cream — Ridiculous. (But if we do, I vote to keep chocolate :yahoo: )

     

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  • #67416

    What a great bartender!

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/bartenders-fake-receipt-saves-women-from-being-hit-on-by-creep/amp/

  • #67418

    Why would anyone want to eliminate different languages and lose that? It’s like wanting to eliminate all but one flavour of ice cream — Ridiculous. (But if we do, I vote to keep chocolate

    The best ice cream I ever had was “frutti di bosco” (forest fruits) in italy. So that gets my vote.

  • #67487

    In TikTok news…😂

    I said before about these cute white girls dancing and getting these huge followings, even national TV appearances.

    Well…

    The choreographers (mostly black and poc)went on a strike of sorts, no longer posting new dance moves. As a result, the TikTok content dried up! The girls with the huge followings couldn’t post anything new and lost followers. Nothing to siphon from!

    Stay tuned for more.

    I am just there to watch with my bucket of popcorn.

    This is going to be good. 😂

    https://mashable.com/article/black-tiktok-strike-dance-megan-thee-stallion-thot-shit

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  • #67488

    Can’t they just copy an old Janet Jackson video or something? I mean nobody’s really going to know are they? There are only so many shapes you can throw with the human body.

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