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What’s the latest news on the small screen?

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  • #517

    Look who’s back: Spitting Image returns for our chaotic times

    This could be interesting. I used to like Spitting Image a lot, and it’s a format that is pretty timeless (there’s a French counterpart that ran for years after SI, not sure if it’s still going).

    But this is not the first time they’ve talked about resurrecting it. I hope it works out – if nothing else, those new puppet designs look pretty good.

    But as ever, it’s the quality of the material that will make or break it. They had some very good writers and some decent impressionists on the original series (including some people who went on to become big names) – I wonder who will serve that function this time? The mention in the article of US writers suggests the feel of the show could end up being quite different.

  • #518

    The trouble is, there have been people saying “bring back Spitting Image” any time a politician does something dodgy for as long as I can remember, so it’s got a real mountain to climb in living up to what people remember the original being. And Spitting Image has become a bit like Monty Python in that most people have glossed over how much of it was crap and only remember it being endlessly brilliant, which for topical sketch comedy is impossible.

    And it’s not like ITV hasn’t done similar shows since. There was 2DTV, which was hugely popular (at my school at least) for the short period of time it survived.

    Headcases

    Newzoids

    And none of them have really stuck, partly, I think, because they get measured up against the memory of Spitting Image, when they’re not really that far off it.

  • #541

    Uulaaaaa!

  • #742

    Damon Lindelof Intends for Watchmen to Be One Season (For Now)

    “We designed these nine episodes to be as self-contained as the original 12 issues. We wanted to feel like there was a sense of completeness, to resolve the essential mystery at hand,” he explained. “Obviously, there is a potential promise for the further exploration of the world but like the seasons of Leftovers that I did as opposed to Lost, which was designed to have cliffhanger finales and a promise of future storytelling.”

  • #743

    We designed these nine episodes to be as self-contained as the original 12 issues.

    He’s not seeing the irony there, is he?

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  • #817

    The Expanse looks fantastic. So glad Amazon picked this up.

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  • #835

    Feels like an eternity since the first season came out.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by Ian Smith.
  • #911

    Disney to Netflix: Drop Dead

    As its own streaming service nears launch, Disney-owned ABC, Freeform, and FX are refusing commercials from Netflix.

  • #1136

  • #1231

    @Jim
    Vikings Final Season Gets Premiere Date and Trailer — Creator Promises a ‘Proper and Definitive Ending’

    History has announced that the sixth and final season of its first scripted series will have a two-hour premiere on Wednesday, Dec. 4 at 9/8c. Eight more episodes will follow, airing Wednesdays at 10 pm. The remaining 10 episodes of Season 6 will then air later in 2020.

  • #1235

    James Wan Boards ‘Dylan Dog’ TV Series

    James Wan has signed on to co-produce the in-development Dylan Dog TV show, according to Variety. The show is in development by a recently-launched TV arm of Sergio Bonelli Editori, which owns the franchise and publishes it in Italy

    Bonelli is aiming to produce a 10-episode first seson of Dylan Dog, and use it as the flagship of a shared universe of comics-to-TV projects including Nathan Never, Mister No, Dampyr, Dragonero, Il Confine, and Martin Mystere.

  • #1341

    South Park offers mock apology after insulting China and being scrubbed from their internet.

    Band In China was a great episode (not just for the China stuff – loved Stan introducing his band at the festival and then playing their first song) and it’s good to see Stone and Parker make these points.

  • #1369

    It was very on point and considering what is happening with the NBA right now.

    China won’t show NBA preseason games as backlash over Hong Kong tweet grows

    NBA chief Adam Silver says profit can’t come before the league’s principles

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by Todd.
  • #1504

    The Original ANIMANIACS Voice Cast Is Returning for the Series Revival

  • #1714

    ‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Vince Gilligan Finally Confirms Whether Or Not Walter White Is Dead

  • #1755

    Looks like a new Red Dwarf special is on the cards:

  • #1780

  • #1782

    A similar controversy is raging in video games with Activision-Blizzard banning a pro Hearthstone player for expressing support for Hong Kong in an interview. The punishment is as extreme as possibe involving confiscation of prize money and a one year ban.

  • #1860

    ‘Maniac Cop’ TV Series Reboot From Nicolas Winding Refn Picked Up By HBO & Canal+
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    Maniac Cop, a TV series reimagining of the cult classic film franchise from Nicolas Winding Refn and John Hyams (Universal Soldier: Regeneration), has been greenlighted by HBO, which will carry the event series in North America, and by Canal+, which has taken French rights.
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    The series makes the first production for byNWR Originals, an independent studio launched by Refn as an offshoot of his byNWR.com Web site. He and Hyams will executive produce and direct.
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    –SNIP–
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    Maniac Cop has been a long-time passion project for Refn. It was originally announced as a feature at the 2016 Cannes Film Festival. A first-look deal Refn’s Rocket Nation had inked with Vendian Entertainment and Wild Bunch was to provide financing for Space Rocket’s features, starting with Maniac Cop, the initial film in a horror thriller trilogy.
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    Partly based on William Lustig’s 1988 cult classic, Maniac Cop was to be directed by Hyams. There was a plan to film the movie in summer 2017 in Los Angeles but that did not happen and the project subsequently evolved into a TV series.
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    “I’ve always been a devoted admirer of John Hyams,” said Refn. “We’ve been talking about a re-imagining of the Maniac Cop films for a number of years, but as we continued to work on the material, we found ourselves wanting to explore the world we were creating in greater depth. Turning Maniac Cop into a series will allow us to realize our wildest ambitions and to reach an enormous audience though partners HBO and Canal+. This show will be an unadulterated, action-packed horror odyssey. Given the current state of the world, though, Maniac Cop will also be a strong commentary on the decline of civilization”.
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    –SNIP–

    ‘Maniac Cop’ TV Series Reboot From Nicolas Winding Refn Picked Up By HBO & Canal+

  • #1924

    Will Smith Developing a Fresh Prince of Bel-Air Spin-Off Series

    Can’t help feeling it won’t be Fresh Prince without Uncle Phil.

  • #2071

    Yeah, no Uncle Phil will be tough. But it definitely can’t work without at least Uncle Will.

  • #2127

    Apple Launches In-House Studio With ‘Band of Brothers’/’The Pacific’ Follow-Up
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    The tech giant has handed out a nine-episode order for Masters of the Air, the follow-up drama to HBO’s limited series Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Additionally, Apple is officially launching its own internal studio, making the series the first that it will own in-house. Apple’s Worldwide Video heads Zack Van Amburg and Jamie Erlicht will also oversee the unnamed studio in a move that brings them back to their roots as head of Sony Pictures TV.
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    Sources say HBO released the series — focused on historian Donald L. Miller’s nonfiction book Masters of the Air: America’s Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany — ages ago and before WarnerMedia became its new corporate parent. The decision, sources say, was based on the price tag for the series, which is said to clock in at an estimated $250 million. Also a factor was the fact that DVD sales were largely responsible for turning pricey awards winners The Pacific and Brothers into financial hits. With the DVD market imploding amid the explosion of streaming, sources say HBO opted to dedicate those resources elsewhere. (The cabler has continued to be an aggressive buyer amid the arms race for top talent, stars and packages.)
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    Masters focuses the aerial wars through the eyes of enlisted men of the Eighth Air Force — known as the men of the Mighty Eighth — who brought the war to Hitler’s doorstep. The drama arrives two decades after HBO won six Emmys (out of a whopping 19 nominations) for Band of Brothers and its 2010 sequel, The Pacific, which scored 24 noms and a leading eight wins.
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    –SNIP–
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    This is Apple’s second show with Spielberg and joins episodic anthology Amazing Stories at the tech company, which will officially enter the scripted originals market with its first four shows available Nov. 1 when its TV+ launches. All told, Masters is the third international drama series, joining Pachinko and Shantaram.
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    –SNIP–
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    The industry has continued to make ownership a top priority amid the talent wars and rising costs for prolific showrunners and top TV packages. All the broadcast networks, for example, largely buy from their affiliated studios. Forthcoming streamers, too — like Disney+, Peacock and HBO Max — are also buying predominantly from their in-house studios in a bid to own and better monetize their content amid an era of fierce competition and dwindling linear ratings.

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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/apple-launches-house-studio-band-brothers-pacific-follow-up-1246746?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_2019-10-12%2007:01:00_aweprin&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie

  • #2151

    HBO to Add Mental Health Disclaimers in Front of Select Shows

  • #2157

    Fresher Prince?

  • #2182

    Fresh king.

  • #2359

    Disney+’s Twitter feed has been tweeting today, one per tweet, every item that will be in its catalogue at launch, in chronological order. Perhaps not the easiest way to explore it, but it’s interesting to scroll through and see their teen stars age and get replaced (or de-age and get dereplaced if you’re going down their feed, I guess).

    There’s loads in there: animated classics, films they’ve picked up from Fox, Marvel cartoons, forgotten Disney Channel TV movies, Star Wars stuff, that late 80s/early 90s golden era of Disney TV cartoons, The Simpsons… and yet no sign of The Weekenders, which is one thing I was really hope watch again.

  • #2375

    and yet no sign of The Weekenders, which is one thing I was really hope watch again.

    It’s okay, it’s on Youtube.

  • #2426

    Craig Ferguson Game Show ‘The Hustler’ Gets Picked Up by ABC

  • #2433

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    Fucking FINALLY!!!

    …but only five eps. Man, this is going to fly by so fast.

  • #2479

    I doubt there will be an Uncle Will. My bet would be on Uncle Carlton.

  • #2482

    Since Smith is developing the new show through his own company I would expect him to use his presence to boost the show’s ratings.

    That may not mean he’s on it every week, he’s a busy guy, but regular appearances seem certain.

  • #2484

    Is the new show definitely a sequel. Supposedly, Smith really liked this fan trailer with a more serious tone. I wonder if a new show wouldn’t play of it.

  • #2507

    Watchmen reviews are in:

    ‘Watchmen’ Review: Damon Lindelof’s Spectacular HBO Series Is Equal Parts Insightful and Exciting


    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/watchmen-review-1247215
    https://collider.com/watchmen-review-hbo/
    https://www.slashfilm.com/watchmen-review/

    ‘Watchmen’ Review: A Dazzling Reinvention of a Landmark Comic


    https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/10/14/watchmen-review-an-exceptional-and-timely-reimagining-for-the-modern-age

    Starts Sunday night, simulcast on HBO and Sky Atlantic. I’m guessing we should have a thread for it?

  • #2512

    Starts Sunday night, simulcast on HBO and Sky Atlantic. I’m guessing we should have a thread for it?

    I went ahead and started a thread.

  • #2657

    ‘Community’ To Be Taken Out To Streamers As Sony Pictures TV Hopes To Cash In On Hot Comedy Market
    Maybe this is how we finally get the movie!

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  • #2688

    Netflix developing Jeff Smith’s Bone animated series

    Netflix has optioned Jeff Smith’s Bone for a planned animated series for kids. First reported by Deadline, the Netflix series follows over a decade of development of Bone by Warner Bros. as an animated feature film.
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    I’ve waited a long time for this,” Smith said. “Netflix is the perfect home for Bone. Fans of the books know that the story develops chapter-by-chapter and book-by-book. An animated series is exactly the way to do this! The team at Netflix understands Bone and is committed to doing something special – this is good news for kids and cartoon lovers all over the world.
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    Warner Bros. licensed Bone back in 2008, working for 11 years to bring the film to the big screen. In 2006, Warner Bros. announced that Kung Fu Panda director Mark Osborne and Artemis Fowl screenwriter Adam Kline were working on a Bone film trilogy. Prior to Warner Bros.’s involvement, Nickelodeon also at one point was developing a Bone film.

  • #2689

    Netflix developing Jeff Smith’s Bone animated series

    Can’t help but think, “FINALLY!!!”

  • #2790

    Netflix developing Jeff Smith’s Bone animated series

    Can’t help but think, “FINALLY!!!”

    Yeah, absolutely.

    And it’s probably a good thing it’s Netflix. At least that means it’s actually getting made, and they hit the ball out of the park with Hilda (which is a very different animal, but they adapted the comic brilliantly into animation, so it makes me hopeful).

  • #2904


    Mike Mignola launches Forever House live-action anthology series

    Hellboy creator Mike Mignola has teamed with Starburns Industries to create The Forever House, a live action anthology series based on tales from folklore around the world, as announced via Deadline.

    The series is aimed to echo the feeling of classic horror and sci-fi anthologies such as The Twilight Zone and Black Mirror, but with a unique aesthetic designed by Industrial Light & Magic designed to “re-capture the aura of classic Hollywood-style filmmaking through an updated modern lens.”

    The show will incorporate some of the same actors playing different roles in different stories across multiple episodes, though no cast members were announced. No projected release date or outlet for The Forever House was announced.

    Here’s the official synopsis for the series:
    Existing somewhere between reality and nightmares, The Forever House will encapsulate the feeling of an ancient tale told by the fire as we explore the disturbing and the macabre from the mind and sketchbook of Mike Mignola.”

  • #2913

    Kurt Sutter Fired From ‘Mayans MC’

  • #2945

    Feature-length new Red Dwarf TV special coming next year:

    http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2019/10/18/red-dwarf-special-announced/

    I wonder if they could be doing a final episode to wrap the whole thing up. They’ve talked in the past about doing an ‘Earth’ episode that would see them finally get home, but it never came to pass. Could this be something along those lines?

  • #2981

    They’ve got another 20 or 30 years left in them yet.

  • #3008

    Apparently it’s already been confirmed that this won’t be a ‘final episode’ story.

    I’ve put my name down for the ballot for tickets to the live recordings anyway. Fingers crossed!

  • #3072

    Cowboy Bebop shuts down production for 7-9 months following John Cho on-set injury

  • #3149

    Yup Was just digging thru the invisible grey text to find the thread to post:

    John Cho Injury Delays “Cowboy Bebop”

    He needs Mahomes lessons.

  • #3651

    The other War of the Worlds.

  • #3682

    Verizon Customers to Get Year of Disney+ for Free
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    All unlimited wireless data and new Internet subscribers will get access to the new streaming service, launching Nov. 12, to reward their loyalty.
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    Disney and Verizon on Tuesday unveiled a deal to give the phone giant’s wireless and Internet customers a year of Disney+ for free from Nov. 12.
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    The offer of 12 months of Disney+ on Verizon will apply to the phone giant’s wireless unlimited customers and new Fios Internet and 5G home Internet customers. Set to launch Nov. 12, the Disney+ streamer will provide movies and shows from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, National Geographic and more.
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    The free-year offer, besides rewarding Verizon wireless and Internet customers for loyalty, also promises Disney potentially millions in new customers for Disney+ after the first year of viewing.
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    –SNIP–
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    Disney is challenging rival SVOD players by bankrolling new original series for Disney+ and by pricing the service below Netflix. Shares in Netflix fell by 2.4 percent to $271.50 in early morning trading on news of Verizon bundling Disney+ with its wireless and Internet hardware.
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    Verizon competitor AT&T owns WarnerMedia, which is set to launch its own streaming service HBO Max. And Apple is offering customers who buy a new device a year of Apple TV+ for free after that streaming service launches Nov. 1.

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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/verizon-customers-get-year-disney-free-1249214

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  • #3793

    The only surprise here is that anyone ever thought it was a good idea:

    UK’s Channel 4 Postpones Smuggling Format After 39 People Found Dead In Container Truck

  • #3925

    ‘The 100’ Prequel Series From Jason Rothenberg In Works At The CW As Backdoor Pilot

  • #4195

    I was at MCM ComicCon today, it was good fun and I attended a couple of panels, one of which was on the new version of Dracula by Moffat and Gatis.
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    The TV show: they only played a short trailer, no scenes or extended trailer. It looks fine, quite stylised in places, and going for wince-inducing things involving eyes and fingernails. Whether that reflects the true nature of the show remains to be seen?
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    Gatis said that the show uses a lot of the book, including bits other people have ignored, but plays with the order of their presentation.
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    Moffat said that if you liked the section about the Demeter, get ready for a lot more of Dracula on that ship on his way to England. There’s actually been a horror movie in development for years about voyage, so this may kill that off finally?
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    The panel: I get the impression that Gatis enjoys these things more than Moffat? I’ve seen Gatis do several panels, including ones on things he wasn’t even working on. He likes engaging with an audience about subjects that interest him. My impression is that Moffat was there because he had to be and he knows it helps sell the show.
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    At one point someone asked about LGBT representation in Dracula and Moffat wasn’t really good at answering that, until Gatis stepped in and talked about watching vampire movies and seeing images that can be read in multiple ways?
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    Both of them denied any political intentions in the show; no commentary of representation, immigration or any of the other things scholars talk about in regard to the book and many of the films.
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    Right now they see it as a fun, horror and adventure story. That’s their stated intention.

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  • #4391

    Looks like Apple+’s shows are not getting great reviews, especially The Morning Show:
    https://www.tvguide.com/news/apple-tv-plus-shows-reviews-morning-show-see-for-all-mankind-dickinson/
    https://www.tvguide.com/news/the-morning-show-review-apple-tv-plus-jennifer-aniston-reese-witherspoon/
    Apple TV+ Quick Bites: Mini Reviews of <i>For All Mankind, See</i> and <i>Dickinson</i>
    <i>The Morning Show</i> Review: Apple's Big Swing Is Preachy, Jumbled Sorkin Lite

  • #4402

    See got a decent four star review in The Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/oct/28/see-review-jason-momoa-a-lethal-sensual-saga-apple-tv

  • #4466

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/28/netflix-backlash-playback-speed-test-feature

    The move has caused anger from film-makers including Judd Apatow and Brad Bird. Trainwreck and Knocked Up director Apatow, who co-created the Netflix series Love, tweeted his concerns earlier on Monday.

    “Don’t make me have to call every director and show creator on Earth to fight you on this,” he wrote. “Save me the time. I will win but it will take a ton of time. Don’t fuck with our timing. We give you nice things. Leave them as they were intended to be seen.”

    Bird, whose films include The Incredibles and Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol, tweeted that it was “another spectacularly bad idea” as well as “another cut to the already bleeding-out cinema experience”. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse co-director Peter Ramsey also tweeted: “Does everything have to be designed for the laziest and most tasteless?”

    I’d be quite happy to watch certain things at faster speeds – talking head shows or mini-documentaries, but also even the Marvel shows where I was more interested in knowing what happened than actually watching them.

  • #4480

    HBO Max won’t be available in Europe, and instead the shows will be on Sky Atlantic:

    HBO & Sky On Brink Of New European Programming Deal; Arrangement Would Cover ‘Game Of Thrones’ Spin-Offs

    There had been rumors that WarnerMedia was considering rolling out streaming service HBO Max in association with Comcast-owned Sky in a number of European territories, but Deadline understands that this is not the case and that Sky will more likely air some HBO Max originals on its Sky Atlantic channel across its territories.

  • #4493

    even the Marvel shows where I was more interested in knowing what happened than actually watching them.

    If you’re not interested in watching them, why do you care what happened? :unsure:

  • #4532

    ‘Game Of Thrones’ Prequel Pilot Starring Naomi Watts Not Going Forward At HBO:

    ‘Game Of Thrones’ Prequel Pilot Starring Naomi Watts Not Going Forward At HBO

  • #4551

    Quite surprising.

    Was GOT also filmed in Northern Island?

  • #4561

    A lot of it was, yeah. Not the ice-y bits.

  • #4564

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-naomi-watts-led-prequel-dead-at-hbo-1250795

    The news comes shortly after word of HBO nearing a deal to produce a second pilot based in the world of Game of Thrones, from the minds of author George R.R. Martin and Ryan J. Condal. The series is said to focus on the reign of Targaryen kings in the lead-up to the events of Game of Thrones, aligning the vision of the project much more closely to the days of Jon Snow (Kit Harington) and Daenerys Targaryen (Emilia Clarke) than the now-scrapped Naomi Watts-starring prequel — though still quite a bit earlier than the events of the Emmy-winning HBO series, which wrapped its final season in May.

    While the Watts series sounded more interesting to me, the fact that it was supposed to tie into the origins of the White Walkers was a huge strike against it considering how the Night King went down like a little bitch. The Targaryens don’t sound the interesting to me. For me personally, the ending to GoT left a really bad taste in my mouth. While I would give a prequel a try, knowing how it all ends really dampens my enthusiasm for it.

  • #4566

    I don’t know if this will impact anyone here:
    https://www.tvguide.com/news/sony-playstation-vue-shutting-down-january-2020/

  • #4580

    Fire & Blood

  • #4585

    As comic fans we’re all familiar with sticking with a title long after it stopped being enjoyable – we want to know what happens to Spidey/Bats/Matter Eater Lad, even if the issues are garbage. With the Marvel shows, since for a time they had their own shared continuity and also tied in with the films there was some reason to “keep up”.

    I’d also probably use it to refresh my memory if returning to a show after a long break – watch the previous episode at 1.5X or 2X speed, before jumping into the new one.

  • #4586

    Matter-Eater Lad should have his own show goshdagbit!

  • #4596

    Matter-Eater Lad should have his own show goshdagbit!

    Should it be called “Tenzil Kem Takes a Bite Out of Crime”?

  • #4597

    WEVE FOUND OUR SHOWRUNNER!

  • #4600

    The importance of picking your battles. Sapochnik has said that the GOTs showrunners were not happy with how he diverged from the house style when he started directing for the show. That could’ve become a huge fight over “creative differences”.
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    But he got onboard with what they wanted, ended up directing some of the biggest episodes in the series, and now he’s co-showrunning the prequel.

  • #4601

    So what you’re saying is that Sapochnik should direct Star Wars?

  • #4617

    Eventually everyone will be hired for Star Wars for 15 minutes.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by SteveUK.
  • #4632

    WEVE FOUND OUR SHOWRUNNER!

    With all due respect to Tobias, “Tenzil Kem Takes a Bite Out of Crime” was the title of issue 11 of Legion of Super-Heroes (volume 4).
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    But you might be happy to hear it featured Matter-Eater Lad in his new role as a criminal defence attorney. It should be required reading for any modern lawyer who wants to pick up some tips.

  • #4634

    Tobias, dont worry, we need a visionary like you running the show

    David is clearly not a real fan of the source material.

  • #4635

    Kurt Sutter has done an interview clarifying the circumstances around him getting fired.
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    This is his version of course, but reading it carefully, and taking his willingness to admit some of his mistakes and take responsibility I can only conclude he’s his own worst enemy.
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    Let this be a cautionary tale;
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    Kurt Sutter Eyes End Of His Fox/Disney Deal & Dishes The Walt Disney Joke He Believes Got Him Fired From ‘Mayans MC:’ Q&A

  • #4640

    WEVE FOUND OUR SHOWRUNNER!

    With all due respect to Tobias, “Tenzil Kem Takes a Bite Out of Crime” was the title of issue 11 of Legion of Super-Heroes (volume 4).

    I assumed everyone knew this. :)

  • #4641

    WEVE FOUND OUR SHOWRUNNER!

    With all due respect to Tobias, “Tenzil Kem Takes a Bite Out of Crime” was the title of issue 11 of Legion of Super-Heroes (volume 4).

    I assumed everyone knew this. :)

    I usually assume *certain people* on this forum know nothing about good comics :-)

  • #4645

    Yeah, like those weirdo Gambit-haters

  • #4654

    Kurt Sutter has done an interview clarifying the circumstances around him getting fired.
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    This is his version of course, but reading it carefully, and taking his willingness to admit some of his mistakes and take responsibility I can only conclude he’s his own worst enemy.
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    Let this be a cautionary tale;
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    Kurt Sutter Eyes End Of His Fox/Disney Deal & Dishes The Walt Disney Joke He Believes Got Him Fired From ‘Mayans MC:’ Q&A

    Reading interviews with him over the years, Sutter IS a bit of an asshole but he does admit it and take responsibility for his actions.

  • #4748

    The Targaryens don’t sound the interesting to me.

    My problem always with this is that a major part of the appeal of Game of Thrones was the ‘anything can happen’ aspect. It may be nice to try and tie it in more closely to the events of the main show but the massive risk is you run a prequel where everyone knows what’s going to happen to the major characters, the exact opposite of what the show built its popularity on.

    That’s why the other option that went way back into time appealed a lot more to me.

  • #4756

    My problem always with this is that a major part of the appeal of Game of Thrones was the ‘anything can happen’ aspect. It may be nice to try and tie it in more closely to the events of the main show but the massive risk is you run a prequel where everyone knows what’s going to happen to the major characters, the exact opposite of what the show built its popularity on.

    A possible way to counter that is that you introduce twists that cast the original series in a new light, continuing that sense of upending what you thought you knew and could rely on.

    But with that there’s a risk of pissing people off by undoing or invalidating stuff they liked from the original.

  • #4760

    I genuinely don’t think it matters a damn that we know “the ending”.
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    Smallville ran for a decade.We all know he’s going to be Superman, we all know he and Lex will be enemies, we all know he’s going to be in love with Lois and move to Metropolic. We all knew his dad was gonna die!
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    The show ran for ten season.
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    This new GOTs prequel has to be a high quality show but the fact that we know the ultimate destiny of the dynasty isn’t a problem.

  • #4762

    It’s sort of thw Better Call Saul approach, which I’m fine with.

    We know where thwaw guys end up, bit how they get there is still intriguing

    I, for one, will be there for the banging.

  • #4766

    I genuinely don’t think it matters a damn that we know “the ending”.
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    Smallville ran for a decade.We all know he’s going to be Superman, we all know he and Lex will be enemies, we all know he’s going to be in love with Lois and move to Metropolic. We all knew his dad was gonna die!
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    The show ran for ten season.

    Yeah, but they weren’t good seasons.

  • #4789

    I genuinely don’t think it matters a damn that we know “the ending”.

    It’s a personal thing maybe. I had no interest in ever watching Smallville.
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    A lot of people like comfort in their entertainment I agree, you see all those novelists that write the same story 15 times and sell like hotcakes. It’s not for me though, if there’s no element of surprise I most likely won’t be watching/reading it.
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    The next bit depends on how many GoT fans think like me and how many think like Smallville viewers.

  • #4790

    I genuinely don’t think it matters a damn that we know “the ending”.
    .
    Smallville ran for a decade.We all know he’s going to be Superman, we all know he and Lex will be enemies, we all know he’s going to be in love with Lois and move to Metropolic. We all knew his dad was gonna die!
    .
    The show ran for ten season.

    Also, I seem to remember James Cameron’s Titanic doing pretty well.

  • #4791

    Also, I seem to remember James Cameron’s Titanic doing pretty well.

    Always a bit of a false equivalency though, because we know the ship is going to sink but not what happens to the characters we’re following.
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    The blurb on this suggests we are following the Targaryen’s specifically and the fate of them all is well documented.
    .
    Also how much does the Game of Thrones audience overlap with other popular prequels? Last of the Summer Wine was popular for 30 years running the same plot every episode but they may not have had the same audience as The Expanse.
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    I never said shows that are prequels or with known endings can’t be popular, I know they have been. It’s whether that works for an audience for a show known for it’s unpredictability. If they stick to the main royal families then there are no Ned Stark or Red Wedding moments coming. If they focus more on supporting characters it could do but may feel ‘smaller’.

  • #4800

    Always a bit of a false equivalency though, because we know the ship is going to sink but not what happens to the characters we’re following.
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    Does’t Titanic open with old Kate Winslet alive in the modern day and old Leo DiCaprio notably not?

  • #4805

    Always a bit of a false equivalency though, because we know the ship is going to sink but not what happens to the characters we’re following.
    .
    The blurb on this suggests we are following the Targaryen’s specifically and the fate of them all is well documented.

    I presume it’ll be just as easy for this show to tell the story of people we’re not familiar with against a backdrop that we are.

    It would surprise me if they took very well-known existing characters and simply told a story based on facts about them that are already known.

    The closest thing I can think of there is the Star Wars prequels, and even then they introduced a lot of new stuff along the way.

    Let’s hope this is more ‘Better Call Saul’ than ‘Phantom Menace’.

  • #4806

    I genuinely don’t think it matters a damn that we know “the ending”.
    .
    Smallville ran for a decade.We all know he’s going to be Superman, we all know he and Lex will be enemies, we all know he’s going to be in love with Lois and move to Metropolic. We all knew his dad was gonna die!
    .
    The show ran for ten season.

    Also, I seem to remember James Cameron’s Titanic doing pretty well.

    They never made a sequel though.

  • #4810

    I presume it’ll be just as easy for this show to tell the story of people we’re not familiar with against a backdrop that we are.

    It would surprise me if they took very well-known existing characters and simply told a story based on facts about them that are already known.

    Which I did mention but I think the risk there is of taking it ‘smaller’. It goes to ‘will Johnny survive?’ from ‘who will rule the world, will it be destroyed?’.
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    I don’t actually mind that myself, if Johnny is a compelling character then it works but I tend to think I’m often out of step with fandom on that aspect. I like the talky bits they all moan about.

  • #4822

    The prequel is based on the recent book Fire and Blood by Martin, which I tried to read, but it’s really just a boring fictional history book. It’s all just names, events and dates, rather than plot, actual characters, etc.

    It felt at the time like it was written so that the people who maintain the ASOIAF wiki were kept busy, but I guess it now exists so that the people running this show have a huge amount of material to pick and choose from.

    Some sample pages: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fire-Blood-Thrones-Targaryen-History/dp/0008307733

    View post on imgur.com

    View post on imgur.com

    It’s all like that.

  • #4890

    Not much, but Paul Abbott is trying to make more State of Play again:

    ‘Shameless’ Creator Paul Abbott Is Rebooting His BAFTA-Winning Series ‘State of Play’ For The BBC

    I love the original.

  • #4897

    this is not really news but he does look good as Bats. Maybe it will bring Jim back to the board.

    is this Jim’s favorite Batman

  • #5076

    Enjoyed the original, and enjoyed the US movie – it seemed to have been received well critically, but that’s one of those odd films that just disappears.

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  • #5149

    Still looking great.

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  • #5417

    Series 9 of Taskmaster ended tonight but there’s been no announcement of a cast for series 10 or even a confirmation of one, as it turns out Channel 4 might be trying to poach it from Dave.

    https://www.comedyfeed.co.uk/taskmaster-to-move-to-channel-4/

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