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I’m surprised I beat Mike to starting this thread.
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I went to see Peter Pan Goes Wrong last night. It’s starting a UK tour with a surprisingly long residency at the Cheltenham Everyman (about two weeks or more), which is nice. I guess the previous Mischief shows have done well for them. This is the fourth I’ve seen (all at the Everyman) and while it’s a lot of fun, I’d say it’s probably the weakest of them.
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Although this is the fourth of their plays I’ve seen, it’s also the first, as I saw the TV adaptation a couple of Christmases back, which is what spurred me to check out the stage shows. And it turns out the TV adaptation is very faithful to the stage version, beyond adding David Suchet. Which is really good, in a way, but meant I knew pretty much everything that was coming in the show, which robbed a bit of enjoyment from it. I’m annoyed with myself for feeling that way – especially as I want to go see Comedy About A Bank Robbery and The Play That Goes Wrong again and generally have no problem rewatching countless other things – but the foreknowledge of what was coming constantly undercut my enjoyment of the actions on stage a bit, I think because the plotting relies on an element of “what could possibly go wrong next?!” which is moot when you know what goes wrong next.
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I think an additional factor to this is that the play is pretty similar to The Play That Goes Wrong, as you might expect. But it’s not really a sequel to that earlier production, more a redux, in a way. This very much feels like the same template as TPTGW but writ large, with a bigger budget to use on a bigger and more complex set with more gimmicks. And that’s fine – the revolving stage largely works well (I’ll come back to that in a moment) – but it doesn’t change up enough other stuff, I think. There are recognisably some of the same characters in here, such as the pompous and ambitious troupe leader Chris, but they’re largely performing exactly the same function they do in TPTGW, an echo rather than a sequel. There’s chunks of plotting that are copied over from TPTGW, such as one of the stage-hands being roped in to fill in for an incapacitated actor, which works here as well as it does there, but it’s just the same idea again. I can totally understand the need to have the two plays stand alone from each other in terms of continuity, but I think they could have stood to stand alone from each other in terms of plotting a bit more too.
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And in that comparison of the two pieces, it’s The Play That Goes Wrong that comes out on top rather than Peter Pan Goes Wrong, for me. There’s something more elegant about the single set used in TPTGW. The revolving set in PPGW is impressive on a technical and staging level, but it’s a lot of flash. In the late stages when it revolves uncontrollably, you’re assaulted with different things happening on each third of the set almost simultaneously, it’s high stakes action, in a way, but it’s really hard to properly take in, I found, a whirlitzer of stuff going on, while I was mostly distracted by the view it afforded of the real stage hands at the back of the stage controlling the whole thing.
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The other bit that didn’t quite work for me is the anti-panto element. The cast had to initially nudge the audience into doing the “oh no it isn’t” stuff that the play requires at times, and we all eventually got quite into it, which ended up stepping on the play itself later on. Encouraging the traditional panto audience interaction meant people felt free to call out to the cast in moments when there was (presumably) no expectation of that, which I think undercut some of the moments in the script, like the crocodile dejectedly walking off stage. The cast also didn’t really seem to allow for the audience at times, continuing on with business while being drowned out by not just calls, but also laughter. That felt like a crucial little flaw especially. Take a moment to let the joke land, it’s earned it.
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Still, for all that, I had fun watching the show. If you’ve not seen either version before and a slapstick farce about a bad play sounds like something you’d enjoy, then definitely check it out, especially if you have kids and don’t want to go to a proper panto (and make sure you get there as early as possible – the show really starts before the curtain time, as the “stagehands” prepare the set and some of the cast mingle with the audience. I totally forgot this from TPTGW and caught only the tail end of it). If you saw the TV version then, well, I’d say seeing this depends on how much you want to watch that again.

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  • #3860

    We have tickets next Saturday (2 november) to see FREESTYLE LOVE SUPREME at the Booth Theater in Times Square. This is a revival of a hip-hop musical co-created by Lin Manuel Miranda waaaaay before HAMILTON made him a household name. Limited engagement, with occasional special appearances throughout the run by LMM, Christopher Jackson, Wayne Brady and others who were part of the original performances 15 years ago. Very excited about this!

  • #5013

    I rambled in some other thread that I’ve been doing some theatre again myself, after many years of only doing it at work. It was fun to be back on the stage, and it put me in contact with some people who are active in the (non-professional) theatre scene here and I am now taking part in another production that has been going for a while and in which they had to recast one of the roles. Should be fun.

  • #5097

    Went to see Lin-Manuel Miranda’s FREESTYLE LOVE SUPREME at the Booth Theater in Times Square on Saturday evening. Wasn’t sure what to expect, but this exceeded my wildest expectations!! It’s basically an 80-minute improvisation show with a hip-hop slant. The performance we saw included comedian/actor/game show host Wayne Brady, and Christopher Jackson (George Washington in the HAMILTON musical) on stage with the core cast. Because of the improv format, and based on suggestions by audience members, each show is unique and has a personal feel. I swear Liz and I laughed for the full 80 minutes, and we weren’t alone.
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    One weird thing (which we were warned about in advance via Telecharge): as you enter the theater, you are obliged to put your cellphone/fitbit/mobile device into a Yondr bag, which is then locked until the end of the show. I assume it is done partly to prevent the audience from filming the entire performance or taking photos, to which I have no objection. Unfortunately, neither of us wore a watch that evening, and it drove me a bit crazy not to know what time it was.

  • #15738

    Saw Dial M For Murder at the theatre as part of a local crime fiction festival. I’d seen it before many years ago but couldn’t quite remember how everything fit together / fell apart in the end so it was still a decent, tense watch. One thing that did strike me as odd though was the fact that there were a few bits played for laughs, as though they were going for a farce rather than thriller. Good night out though as we made a point of dinner and drinks before hand and drinks afterwards too!

  • #16423

    I saw Alexei Sayle on his current stand-up tour at a local arts venue over the weekend. He was good, some very funny (and politically-charged) material and a lot of energy, especially for a guy his age. One of those greats who I’d never seen before, but I’m glad I did.

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  • #16440

    I always liked Alexei Sayle back in the days when he was on telly. Superficially silly and slapstick, but underneath that his material was always very clever and made hard-hitting points.

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  • #16444

    Yeah, he’s obviously very smart and a lot of his stuff is very pointed, but it’s weaved into these absurd surreal narratives.

    Although there were one or two moments in his act that were less like that and more nakedly political than I expected.

  • #20790

    The National Theatre are putting a play a week up on youtube. This weeks was One Man, Two Guvnors.

    Despite not being a James Cordon fan (he’s the titular One Man) it was really funny, actual laugh out loud in places.

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  • #20806

    So, our tickets for Hamilton were cancelled last week due to COVID-19. Tonight we were supposed to see Madame Butterfly at the Metropolitan Opera House at Lincoln Center, but it was cancelled.

    FUCK YOU CORONAVIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’m okay now. Good Boys is on HBO tonight; I’m sure it’s just as good as the opera.

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  • #47179

    Tonight we watched a fantastic live performance of A Christmas Carol from the Old Vic theatre via Zoom, with Andrew Lincoln as Scrooge (and doing a great job).

    It’s one of my all-time favourite stories and I never tire of seeing new adaptations of it, but this was one of the best – powerful and moving and very timely, as well as technically brilliant and innovative (both in terms of how the live performance was presented – with multiple layers and splitscreens and dissolves etc. – and in how it was staged, to account for distancing measures). I was moved to tears at times.

    Tremendous stuff, and it really made me miss live theatre.

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  • #64736

    Just watched “Pass Over” on amazon prime. It’s a filmed version of a play by Antoinette Chinonye Nwandu (Spike Lee put together the film, but he didn’t direct the stageplay), and it works very well as a theatre performance.

    The play is brilliant. It riffs on “Waiting for Godot” in structure, but it’s about the black American experience and it’s funny and heartbreaking and it enraging. And its dialogue really sings, in the way that only good plays can when they’re staged by really good actors.

    (Watched this to look for stuff to use in class, and I certainly will.)

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  • #68035

    Having seen him in concert numerous times, I can image this is fantastic and a good start to Broadway reopening.

    https://deadline.com/2021/06/bruce-springsteen-on-broadway-review-opening-night-1234782184/

  • #84255

    https://shadowandact.com/emilie-kouatchou-set-as-first-black-actor-to-play-christine-in-phantom-of-the-opera-on-broadway

  • #84261

    I booked theatre tickets (well, singular) today! First show I’ll have been to since Peter Pan Goes Wrong in late 2019(!). Another Mischief show as it happens: Magic Goes Wrong, which I’ve wanted to see since I saw an early preview about four years ago now. I completely lost track of it getting a tour what with the pandemic and all. Turns out it’s in my local theatre in a couple of weeks. Glad I didn’t miss it.

  • #85164

    Magic Goes Wrong

    A collaboration between Mischief Theatre and Penn and Teller would surely be great, right? And yet, while I enjoyed Magic Goes Wrong, I was a little underwhelmed by it.

    Part of that was the production I saw. You can definitely tell it’s the touring production of a show that’s still on in the West End after its original cast has moved on. By which I mean, not all the cast was that great, really. Some were properly good – the actor doing the Mind Mangler was fun and has to fold in a lot of audience interaction and improv, which he did well; the pair playing Bar and Spitzmouse were also solid – but the guy playing extreme magician The Blade was pretty awful, I thought, failing to make a convincing character or American accent. He more than any of the others felt like he was trying and failing to emulate the role’s original actor rather than giving his own interpretation on it. That was true to a lesser degree for a couple of others too, including the show’s main character, the Great Stupendo, who is really needed to anchor the entire show, but didn’t pull it off entirely, for me. I think one element of this is that the original cast are increasingly familiar thanks to the Goes Wrong Show and while the characters in this are separate, you can fairly easily see who played who, as they are just their Cornley characters with the edges sanded off in several places.

    The production itself is mostly solid. The sets are brilliant and the magic tricks/stunts are all really well designed. You can see Penn and Teller’s hand in them in how they at times reveal how they’re done, or how they’re usually done but with a hidden twist on top (such as with sawing a lad in half). There were a couple of moments where, in the course of “going wrong”, some of the cast went a little wrong and showed more than I think they were meant to, but overall the magic elements worked well.

    It falls down a bit with the story and structure though. The format is of a charity fundraiser, but it feels more like it wants to be a telethon without a live audience than a theatre show at times. There were several moments when we in the audience collectively weren’t sure if we were meant to be applauding or holding off on applauding. Partly I guess that’s because a lot of us won’t have been at a live show for so long and are out of practice, but there are some points in the show where it doesn’t give enough of a clue. The opening for instance, which is a musical number that introduces all the acts in turn. There was this awkward tension to be felt throughout where an assumption that we should clap after each person is introduced fought against the lack of space for reaction in the pacing of the song and performance. It was the same with several moments from the Great Stupendo compéring where he hadn’t quite brought the audience along with him as a typical MC or host might. He hadn’t breached the divide of us knowing he’s an actor in a play. It was a bit weird and I did notice that after the interval there was a more definite “voice” leading applause at a key moments behind me in the stands, which I assume was someone from the production giving a hand.

    The end was a bit schmaltzy for my taste too and also gets a tad cluttered with “moments”. The other minor issue is that the structure feels a bit repetitive. There’s four magical acts in the show who just repeatedly take turns to come on and do stuff. That does allow for progression of story for them, but it kinda makes you realise how small the cast is.

    The other thing of note is that, as I’ve mentioned probably too often, I saw a preview of this a few years ago. Three sections from the show done with minimal props and no sets after an improv show. Two of those made it into the finished production (one of which was just as fun to see again, the other not as good as when performed by the original actor) but the third seems to have been cut, which was surprising. As far as I can remember, it was an entirely different character from the ones in the final play, so I guess they were dropped entirely.

    Overall, it’s definitely a fun show. One worth seeing if you get chance (but I’d go for the West End if you can) but not Mischief’s best and I suspect it’ll make for a better TV production at some point than it does a stage show.

  • #101694

    I saw the stage production of The Lavender Hill Mob tonight, which is premiering in Cheltenham before transferring to the West End (an honour recently also bestowed by the Great British Bake Off play, which I gave a miss).

    So, I’ve never seen the film, so I don’t know how it stacks up to that. I thought the play had done a rather clever thing in how it presents the story: at a British ex-pats club in Rio Henry Holland (Miles Jupp) gets his friends at the club (an ambassador, his wife, a lord and his wife, the club staff) to re-enact the tale of his heist – stealing gold from the Bank of England and disguising it as lead Eifel Tower paperweights – for an impatient guest.

    What a great way to reframe the events of the film, I thought. A meta-adaptation of a feature film story to stage by having a group of actors knowingly play it out for an audience. Slightly takes away any tension by giving away that Holland escapes, but still, clever.

    Then I looked up the plot synopsis of the film online and saw it has a framing sequence in Rio. So I guess it’s not entirely novel and not ruining anything by giving away the end. But the play seemingly greatly embellishes what is just an intro, outro and narration into that meta-element.

    And it all works generally. It’s a bit of an artifice that all Holland’s friends know his story so well as to be able to play all the parts they do, and the “twist” isn’t really much of a twist at all, even if you’ve not seen the film. And the final line is a real clunker to go out on. But the cast were good, had enough range for the full host of characters they each have to jump into (although Justin Edward’s ambassador melds somewhat into his other role of Pendbury by the end).

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  • #105287

    The theatre again for me last night and another Mischief production Mind Mangler: Member of the Tragic Circle!

    This is a spin off from Magic Goes Wrong, mostly, taking the Mind Mangler sections from that and expanding them out into a full show. Given the unevenness of Magic Goes Wrong, this is a good idea. The Mind Mangler was the strongest part and is able to stretch out to include other types of magic tricks without it feeling odd. So along with the spiritualism and mentalist sections from Magic Goes Wrong, there are tricks like magic repairing newspaper, teleportation, a really impressively staged guillotine escape and a magic locked box prediction thing that I don’t know how they did.

    I’m not sure if Penn and Teller were still involved with this, but there’s certainly a legitimacy to the magic elements and it’s clear that star Henry Lewis (the originator of the role) has trained well in Derren Brown-esque mentalism and cold reading (or at least the cheats to make that work). But more impressive is the ability to meld that into improv and comedy as it intentionally goes wrong. There’s an extended bit of “mind reading” where he tries to identify the writer of an unsigned confessional note within the audience that flirts with mentalism techniques but is really extended audience interaction improv. It’s a lot of fun.

    Of course, by recycling elements from Magic Goes Wrong, there is some familiarity. I’ve seen those bits four times now (across the preview, Magic Goes Wrong’s touring production and a spot on Children in Need last year) and so had other members of the audience, who were game to get in on some of the audience participation jokes (such as the name “John”). But crucially, those sections still work – possibly even work better – with that playful familiarity and are still funny. And part of that is because the play is written to smoothly encourage that from the kind of response from the audience anyway.

    Mind Mangler is a more satisfying couple of hours than Magic Goes Wrong was, as the more streamlined set-up makes for a smoother production that is better able to build momentum and carry the audience along. It’s touring til March with the original cast and is worth seeing.

    Also, for anyone in the US, Mischief are doing a run of Peter Pan Goes Wrong on Broadway with most of the original cast this spring, so I recommend seeing that if you’re able.

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  • #109578

    Oh, I saw the Mousetrap the other week (there’s a touring production to celebrate the 70th anniversary, which started off in Cheltenham). They’re not kidding around about making people keep the secret of the plot. I signed a contract. In blood!

    I mean the theatre staff kept telling me it wasn’t necessary but in a way that really implied the production would appreciate it nonetheless.

    But yeah, it’s an ok play but pretty standard Christie really. It doesn’t really do much beyond your typical Poirot or Miss Marple. I think its longevity is due to that clever marketing gimmick about not revealing the story.

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  • #109666

    My sister was telling me basically the same thing (minus the blood).

  • #109830

    This week I did something I’ve wanted to do for decades and finally saw Penn & Teller live as part of their current UK tour.

    It was a fantastic night. I’ve been a fan of their stuff since I was a teenager, ever since their Unpleasant World Of Penn & Teller TV show in the 90s, and they were as fun and entertaining this week as they’ve ever been. A great show.

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  • #111435

    Lin-Manuel Miranda to Adapt ‘The Warriors’ as Stage Musical

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  • #111436

    I would pay actual dollars to see that.

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