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German police detain suspect after deadly shooting outside synagogue

Two people were killed in a shooting in the eastern German city of Halle on Wednesday and police said they had detained one person.

Mass-selling daily Bild said the shooting took place in front of a synagogue, and that a hand grenade was also thrown into a Jewish cemetery. An eyewitness told n-tv television that a perpetrator had also fired shots into a kebab shop in Halle.

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  • #1641

    Jeff Koons sculpture to commemorate the Bataclan massacre is seven anuses on stalks

    Take that ISIS!

  • #1693

    You had ONE JOB, Jeff Koons!!

  • #1696

    Groom sexually assaulted a bridesmaid days before getting married, police say

    And you’d think the wedding would have been called off, but no, it happened.

  • #1704

    Lights out: Power cut in California to prevent deadly fires

    Hope our Californians are doing OK.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by JRCarter.
  • #1712

    For context Coleen Rooney and Rebekah Vardy are the wives of very famous English footballers, Rooney dropped this onto Twitter yesterday:

    The most amusing bit is the wives and girlfriends of sportsmen are usually known as WAGs so the whole affair is being hashtagged with Wagatha Christie for the detective work.

  • #1719

    Someone told me about this story yesterday and I felt like a bit of an old man as they had to painstakingly explain to me who all the people involved were, and why it mattered to them. I think my blank look afterwards made them regret bothering!

    Wagatha Christie is a good gag though.

  • #1728

    Wag Wars – day two, cue the lawyers.

  • #1733

    I saw someone suggest a new series on ITV: Waggart.

  • #2084

    4 people dead, 3 injured in shooting at New York City illegal gambling site, police say

    New York City police said that no arrests had been made for the shooting that happened at 6:55 a.m. Saturday in the Crown Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn.

  • #2109

    Powerful typhoon makes landfall in Japan as earthquake strikes

    One or the other would be bad enough.

  • #2324

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/oct/11/stormzy-effect-record-number-black-britons-studying-cambridge-university

    Black student intake at Cambridge University increases by 50% after Stormzy funds scholarship places.
    .
    A few points to take away here: first, Stormzy is obviously awesome.
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    Second, he hasn’t sponsored all the 30 extra black students. He has sponsored two (or maybe four, the article is unclear) of them. It appears that the remaining 28 (or 26) additional black students applied for and won “regular” — i.e. open to both black and white — places. Places which have always been open to black students:
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    Cambridge said that after Stormzy made his offer in 2018, the university “has seen an increase in the number of black students engage in its outreach activities and enquire about its courses”, leading to increasing numbers of applications.
    Courtney Daniella, a Cambridge graduate and YouTube influencer, was also credited with helping encourage more applications, after she appeared in videos designed to challenge misconceptions around studying at the university.

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    “The university has worked hard to get the message out that it is a welcoming place for students regardless of their ethnicity. This record rise in the number of black students is a credit to their hard work and ability: we have not lowered entry standards,” said Graham Virgo, the senior pro-vice-chancellor for education.

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    Ok, that last quote is clumsily condescending. But what he’s basically saying is that places have *always* been available to black students. It seems that it’s just public perception that it’s *not* inclusive which has kept them away — and so the perception becomes self-fulfilling.
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    It needed this combination of better publicity and the positive role model of Stormzy to let black kids know they can do this if they want to. And now it’s started, it should carry on. Black students will still be a minority this year, but every new one will show others that it’s “allowed” for them to apply to Cambridge, so hopefully it should grow naturally from here.

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  • #2355

    There’s always been an element with these things of people being able to see an opportunity for themselves.
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    There’s a great story on Russell T Davies comprehensive school in Swansea in the late 70s and early 80s where a teacher decided they were going to send lots of their kids to Oxbridge. She drove on her own time to give the kids visits to see the universities. Stayed back to teach classes specifically on how to get through the entrance exams and interviews and it worked. They had an incredible record for that time with students being admitted.
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    All of what she did though is basically part of the standard setup at a private school where students are expected to apply and get in.
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    So it’s not to say prejudice in selection doesn’t exist, there are likely multiple elements at play, but it doesn’t seem to be the element that stopped those kids from Comps getting in before. Once they had been given the expectation to succeed and equal support they did. Of course the problem is that needed one teacher going above and beyond and once she retired it fell back again because the same resources aren’t to drive that expectation as at fee playing schools.
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    It’s not exactly the same but you can see the parallels and I agree there’s a very high likelyhood that Stormzy publicising his scholarships means more black kids saw it as a realistic goal for them too.

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  • #2424

    ‘It’s got to stop’: Superintendent condemns teacher’s racist rant in school parking lot

  • #2766

    Tragic story:

    ‘Tarzan’ Actor Ron Ely’s Wife Stabbed To Death At Home; Suspect Is Their Son, Who Was Killed By Deputies – Update

  • #2943

    New York City Council votes to close notorious Rikers Island jail

    New York (CNN)The New York City Council voted overwhelmingly to close Rikers Island jail Thursday and open four new borough-based facilities instead.
    “Today is a day that the history books will look back on as a good day for New York City,” Council Speaker Corey Johnson said. “This is a step forward, this is progress, this is the right thing to do.”

  • #2962

    close Rikers Island jail Thursday

    What, actually close it on Thursday? Seems a bit quick.

  • #2973

    “Today is a day that the history books will look back on as a good day for New York City,”

    …except for the people living next door to where the new facilities will be built.

  • #3046

    We close one prison, we open four new ones! It is a great day indeed.

  • #3227

    3 US Army soldiers killed during training at Fort Stewart in Georgia, officials say

  • #3445

    I was looking at Twitter at this interview of Meghan Markle
    and you can see the pain in her face as she was fighting back
    the tears. I think of the stress getting to her. She was however,
    warned by her friends of what she was getting into going out with
    Harry. I feel for her still…

  • #3914

    This is a really weird case. I can’t get my head around the verdict. I understand the technical fact that he met the PKK in a camp where they trained, but he never joined them.
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    British man who fought against IS guilty of terrorism charge
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    –SNIP–
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    Aidan James, 28, of Formby, Merseyside, had no previous military knowledge when he set out for Syria in 2017.
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    He denied terror offences but was found guilty at a retrial at the Old Bailey of attending a camp in Iraq where the banned PKK group was present.
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    James was cleared of attending a terrorist training camp in Syria.
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    Jurors reached unanimous verdicts after just over a day of deliberations.
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    Mr Justice Edis said the verdicts made it plain the defendant’s conduct was “not intended to promote any acts of terrorism by him”.
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    He told James: “I regard this as a highly unusual terrorist case.”
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    He said James’ involvement with the PKK was “quite fleeting”, adding “it was something that happened on his voyage, but the ultimate destination was elsewhere”.
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    James, an unsuccessful applicant to the British Army, grew up on Merseyside and is the first Briton who fought against IS to stand trial for such offences.
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    The prosecution case was that his intention to fight IS, and his actions in doing so, did not amount to terrorism, but that he had been present in camps where training took place for a wider ideological cause.
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    He kept a diary prior to and during his time in the Middle East, the Old Bailey heard.
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    In April 2017 he wrote: “At least over there I can make a difference, I can do something to be proud of instead of constantly feeling worthless.”
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    –SNIP–
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-50167158

  • #3916

    Seems like the only thing he’s been found guilty of is attending a camp in which terrorists were also present. I imagine the eventual sentence will be lenient. It’s still weird though, I agree.

  • #3941

    Even if he never serves a day in prison, his real sentence is a criminal record for terrorist offences. Good luck making a life with that.

  • #4967

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/01/chicago-halloween-girl-shot-trick-or-treating

    A seven-year-old girl is fighting for her life in hospital in Chicago on Friday after she was shot while out trick-or-treating for Halloween, and police are on an intense hunt for at least one gunman.

    The child was hit in the neck with a stray bullet when at least two men fired seven or more shots that were intended for a suspected gang rival nearby, police said.

    The intended target of the shooting was on the other side of the street, and near the girl and other children and parents who were out on a busy street for the seasonal festivities on Thursday evening.

    It was still daylight when the gunfire rang out around 5.30pm local time, and the child’s father, who was accompanying her, was heard to cry out: “My little girl’s been shot.”

  • #4981

    Apparently this occurred soon after the Chicago PD had announced that the number of shootings were down in the city compared to last year. Bad timing there.
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    Hoping the best for this poor little victim and her family.

  • #4998

    Teen pleads guilty to murdering girlfriend pregnant with their baby: ‘I took her life’

    New York (CNN)An Indiana teenager pleaded guilty to killing a high school cheerleader who was pregnant with their child.
    In a deal entered Wednesday, Aaron Trejo pleaded guilty to one count of murder and one count of feticide, both felonies. Last December he confessed to fatally stabbing his classmate, who was six months pregnant, in the heart and then concealing her body in a dumpster with a black plastic bag, according to court documents.
    “I took action. … I took her life” because it was too late for her to have an abortion, Trejo, 17, had said. According to court documents, Trejo said that neither he nor his victim, Breana Rouhselang, 17, wanted to have the child.

    Then, don’t have sex if you’re not ready to accept that consequence. Now three lives are ended.

  • #5018

    Then, don’t have sex if you’re not ready to accept that consequence.

    Or have sex, but make sure you know how to properly use contraception.

    Also, I mean, there are more things that have gone wrong here than kids having sex before they were ready. Your girlfriend getting pregnant in high school is a shitty situation, but most people seem to be able to deal with it without killing anyone.

  • #5078

    McDonald’s fires CEO Steve Easterbrook after relationship with employee

    McDonald’s announced Sunday it had fired CEO Steve Easterbrook, citing his “poor judgment” over a consensual relationship he had with an employee.

    The company’s board of directors said it had named Chris Kempczinski, most recently president of McDonald’s USA, to succeed him.

  • #6298

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/tywyn-school-port-talbot-sandfields-17266161

    This is an interesting one for consideration:

    A primary school head teacher sacked after having sex with two 17-year-old boys he met through a gay dating app has been awarded nearly £700,000 in compensation.
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    Matthew Aplin, who was the head of Tywyn Primary School in Sandfields, Port Talbot, had sex with the two teenagers at his home in August 2015.
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    The governors of the school were concerned about safeguarding issues and held a meeting with the local education authority where an investigation was launched.
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    Mr Aplin was suspended and a disciplinary hearing led by school governors was launched.
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    He was accused of “behaviour bringing the school into disrepute, conduct incompatible with the role of the head teacher both which seriously undermined the trust and confidence of the school in its head teacher”.
    .
    The disciplinary panel, which was assisted by local education officers, dismissed Mr Aplin in May 2016.
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    He took the school to an employment tribunal, claiming unfair dismissal and sexual orientation discrimination.

    .
    Aplin here did nothing illegal, his school was of primary age (up to 11 years old) so it didn’t involve anyone under his realm of influence. The age of consent for sex in the UK is 16, regardless of orientation since 2008. There are clauses if you are in a position of authority over the other party but here he wasn’t. So the age difference and his role as a head teacher may make it feel quite uncomfortable for some but in law that doesn’t mean anything.
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    So I think the only conclusion could be he was unfairly dismissed. How much was the issue his age, his role as head teacher or his sexual orientation?

  • #6332

    He was accused of “behaviour bringing the school into disrepute, conduct incompatible with the role of the head teacher both which seriously undermined the trust and confidence of the school in its head teacher”.

    I think this sentence sums up the reason for his dismissal. I don’t know the man’s age; but whether he had sex with two 17-year-old males he met through a gay site, or two 17-year-old girls he met through a hetero site, I agree that his conduct was inappropriate for a man in his position as an authority in a primary school. Not an age thing or a sexual orientation thing; but definitely a “how should a head teacher conduct himself” thing. Sometimes just because a thing is legal does not mean it is appropriate.
    .
    Same thing with Boris Johnson or Donald Trump. Some of the things they do or say are fine if you’re an everyday schmoe, but totally NOT okay when you are the leader of a nation.

  • #6339

    Yeah I can see that and I agree it would be very controversial if he had slept with two 17 year old girls. The article doesn’t specify his age but to graduate and work your way up to a head teacher position the assumption would be in his early 30s at a minimum.

  • #6347

    I don’t know, I think I probably agree with the original point that if it had been a heterosexual affair it probably wouldn’t have got to the point where it cost him his job. I think there is still an effect where gay affairs are seen as being more scandalous despite being equally legal.

  • #6349

    It’s hard to tell and while I moved toward Jerry’s thinking for a while I think it’s very hard to hold up to scrutiny really. The youngsters are not on his care, the relationships all consensual, they put themselves up on the dating app. So really the argument left is rather a moral judgement one and becomes very subjective.
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    Would he have faced disciplinary procedures if he’d done other legal but morally questionable things? Cheated on his wife/husband or joined a swingers club orgy?
    .
    You can of course be disciplined for things that are legal, when I was working for a bank we were required to keep good credit terms or could be asked to leave but that that was specifically stated in the employment contract.

  • #6352

    You can of course be disciplined for things that are legal

    Yeah, of course, especially in teaching where there is a duty of care and actions can conflict with that. And sometimes there are jobs that have rules about appropriate relationships, as we saw in the high-profile McDonald’s case recently.

    But this case is a difficult one, and while it’s tempting to side with the decision to sack him as the relationship here involves young people, I feel like it’s far enough removed from the school to not necessitate his firing. Although I can definitely understand it raising some eyebrows.

  • #6362

    I don’t know the man’s age; but whether he had sex with two 17-year-old males he met through a gay site, or two 17-year-old girls he met through a hetero site, I agree that his conduct was inappropriate for a man in his position as an authority in a primary school. Not an age thing or a sexual orientation thing; but definitely a “how should a head teacher conduct himself” thing.

    Wait, so you’re saying having a threesome with two seventeen-year-olds is now out of bounds for any teacher?!

    B-)

  • #6406

    The article doesn’t actually specify a “threesome” I think. It may have been two separate incidents.
    .
    Hypothetically, he could have been married to them. Would that make the situation more palatable?

  • #6407

    It would be quite impressive if he’d married 2 guys in the same month.

    (You are right it just says he slept with 2 men in August 2015, could have been on the same night or not).

  • #6443

    I could see justification for firing him if his partners both looked young for their age, and he said that that fact led to the attraction. That would be worrying even in a hetero realationship. It would be even more concerning, given that girls mature earlier,so there’s more chance that an 11 year old girl and a 16 year old girl could look like they are the same age.

  • #6467

    Saw a brief clip of that Prince Andrew interview. What a shambles.
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    His defence was laughable in the bit I saw, claiming he was unable to sweat ‘at the time’ he was being accused is far fetched in the extreme. Conveniently temporary if he can now but was due to an incident in the Falklands in the early 80s.
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    Just Googled one of his itineraries around the time:

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    Prince Andrew’s programme of overseas visits – in which he travelled to Davos, Abu Dhabi, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Dubai and China

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    Good luck being unable to sweat in most of those, Malaysia and Vietnam being very humid tropical countries where the daytime temperature doesn’t drop below 30 degrees all year round.

  • #6487

    The whole thing is a very bad joke. Nothing is going to happen. If the law was serious about justice these people would be in jail. Why is Ghislaine Maxwell free?

  • #6491

    I agree Arjan, nothing will happen. Not just because the wealthy look after their own most of the time but without any concrete evidence (as in forensic or CCTV) it’s mostly one word against another.

    Which is why I think everyone is bemused why Andrew went through with the whole interview thing. He looks even more guilty and a worse person than if he’d just hidden away and issued denials via a press agent.

  • #6497

    It was bad theater.
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    He wasn’t challenged and I’m sure he got final say over what was aired. I don’t think it helped him at all. It was a waste of everybody’s time.

  • #6506

    You can of course be disciplined for things that are legal,

    My feeling is, if this guy was a cashier at Tesco, or an engineer at Tesla, or a hairdresser at Tessie’s Salon, how he conducts his private life should have no bearing on his employment; but as a person in a position of authority at an institution responsible for children, where many students likely look to him as a role model, it is reasonable for his employers to hold him to a higher standard of behavior, independent of his age or sexual orientation.
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    But that’s just me.

  • #6522

    I agree Arjan, nothing will happen. Not just because the wealthy look after their own most of the time but without any concrete evidence (as in forensic or CCTV) it’s mostly one word against another.

    Which is why I think everyone is bemused why Andrew went through with the whole interview thing. He looks even more guilty and a worse person than if he’d just hidden away and issued denials via a press agent.

    To be fair I’m not sure about the nature of the allegations against Andrew, maybe these clients were not aware the girls they allegedly had sex with were minors. I think the girl was 17, which wouldn’t be illegal in the Netherlands. It’s more the way the entire affair was handled that makes me upset.

  • #6527

    It’s a bit more complicated than that because she’s claiming the sex was not consensual but she was forced into it by Epstein and Maxwell.The age of consent in the UK is 16 so that part isn’t illegal but prostitution (for both parties) is. The claim is pretty believable because Epstein was convicted of that and also settled out of court several times on the same allegations.

    It’s also the wider friendship with Epstein after knowing he had been convicted of procuring girls as young as 14 for sex.

  • #6531

    You can of course be disciplined for things that are legal,

    My feeling is, if this guy was a cashier at Tesco, or an engineer at Tesla, or a hairdresser at Tessie’s Salon, how he conducts his private life should have no bearing on his employment; but as a person in a position of authority at an institution responsible for children, where many students likely look to him as a role model, it is reasonable for his employers to hold him to a higher standard of behavior, independent of his age or sexual orientation.
    >
    But that’s just me.

    So an elementary school teacher can’t have any kinks? How is this different then if he was caught in an S&M club? Given that the young men were over the local age of consent, isn’t this just a “barely legal” kink? The only arguments I could see is if the young men looked like they were 14- then I’d be concerned he’s a nonce using a loophole in the law, or if you say that by definition “barely legal” is not a “kink” but is just way nonces use a loophole in the law.

  • #6552

    His defence was laughable in the bit I saw, claiming he was unable to sweat ‘at the time’ he was being accused is far fetched in the extreme. Conveniently temporary if he can now but was due to an incident in the Falklands in the early 80s.

    The stupid thing is, he didn’t even need to bring that up. He had already stated he was in Woking on the day in question.
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    Royal diaries are a matter of public record. Case closed. (One way or the other…)

  • #6594

    as a person in a position of authority at an institution responsible for children, where many students likely look to him as a role model, it is reasonable for his employers to hold him to a higher standard of behavior, independent of his age or sexual orientation.

    I agree, but I also think it is debatable whether having sex with people who are younger than you (even a lot) is in and of itself deplorable behaviour. I mean, where exactly is the problem if the men are old enough to have sex with whom they choose?
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    To be honest, I’m with you, but I find it hard to make the argument stick.

  • #6604

    The only arguments I could see is if the young men looked like they were 14- then I’d be concerned he’s a nonce using a loophole in the law

    I don’t know Kalman, it’s not exactly a ‘loophole’. That’s the accepted age at which people can consent to sex in that society. I am aware in others it can be as late as 21 but it’s not really a loophole, it’s just the law and that’s set to what people consider acceptable.

    Unless they are medical oddities they will be post pubescent so paedophilia shouldn’t really come into it.

  • #6605

    as a person in a position of authority at an institution responsible for children, where many students likely look to him as a role model, it is reasonable for his employers to hold him to a higher standard of behavior, independent of his age or sexual orientation.

    I agree, but I also think it is debatable whether having sex with people who are younger than you (even a lot) is in and of itself deplorable behaviour. I mean, where exactly is the problem if the men are old enough to have sex with whom they choose?
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    To be honest, I’m with you, but I find it hard to make the argument stick.

    I think the age of consent is the only important thing. Once people have the age of consent, it shouldn’t be that interesting to others if there is an age difference. Who cares if a 60 year old guy wants to have sex with a 20 year old woman, we’re all human. If both partners consent to that, good for them.

  • #6610

    I find it hard to make the argument stick.

    I think it is hard to make the argument stick because the lack of details revealed. Is it 2 at once? Male or Female? are those the only arrangements he made for these type of meetings(I mean, he just had these 2 seemingly random encounters and nothing else, sounds fishy) are these 2 17 olds complete strangers? do they have younger relatives who do go to his school. Could he have been smarter about the encounters? why bring them to his house? etc. etc.

    Authority figures are judged more harshly than the normal public

    an elementary school teacher can’t have any kinks

    a teacher is not the same sort of authority figure as a Head teacher. A Head teacher has authority over adults not just children. For instance, A day care center hires a young woman to supervise the kids. this young woman does a great job with the kids but also dances at a strip club and has several sexual partners. Should she be fired? no but what if parents found out? a father sees her one night and raises a stink(or the mother does after finding out about her husband). The supervisor could get in trouble for hiring her.

    Authority figures are more responsible than their employees.

    its not fair but reactions matter more the deeds a lot of the time.

  • #6616

    The only arguments I could see is if the young men looked like they were 14- then I’d be concerned he’s a nonce using a loophole in the law

    I don’t know Kalman, it’s not exactly a ‘loophole’. That’s the accepted age at which people can consent to sex in that society. I am aware in others it can be as late as 21 but it’s not really a loophole, it’s just the law and that’s set to what people consider acceptable.

    Unless they are medical oddities they will be post pubescent so paedophilia shouldn’t really come into it.

    I’m saying that if they looked underage, even if they are post-pubescent, I’d suspect he’s Hebephile, which is someone who is attracted to post-pubescent people but is attracted to those who look underage under the local age of consent, and is taking advantage of the fact that “late bloomers” exist to stay legal. I never mentioned Pedophilia, but as Hebephilia also involves attraction to those who cannot consent, I think that even if they’re different psychologically, they have enough socially in common to group Hebephiles with Pedophiles on a social level.

  • #6617

    Yeah but it’s not very likely is it?

  • #6619

    What about babies who look like octogenarians?

  • #6622

    Yeah but it’s not very likely is it?

    Exactly my point. I don’t see any reason to fire him except in that unlikely scenario or if you make the argument that “barely legal” is not a “kink”, but rather that people who claim to have the “kink” are Hebephiles that are taking advantage of the fact that “late bloomers” exist to stay legal.

  • #6956

    It’s the Sun, so apply salt liberally:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10389442/queen-prince-andrew-royal-duties/

     

  • #6974

    If it’s a Sun or Daily Mail story then can you give a little summary? I don’t click on anything by those shitrags. :negative:

  • #6985

    Basically, Andrew did not resign. The Queen fired him and Charles pushed her to do it.

    From an article at The Daily Beast:

    “The bottle of whisky and the pearl-handled revolver were laid out for him. And they were laid out for him by his mother,” one source told The Daily Beast.

  • #6990

    It’s not like he’s really resigning from anything anyway, who the fuck knows what he does?

  • #7004

    The whole thing is worth it for headlines like these.

     

  • #7362

    Birmingham Star City: 13-year-old girl among arrests after ‘machete’ brawl during Frozen 2 viewing

    And people were worried about Joker.

  • #7365

    It wasn’t anything to do with Frozen II.

    It was around a film called Blue Story about gang violence.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-50541204

     

  • #7383

    That reads like someone trying to increase the articles reachability by mentioning Frozen 2.

  • #7402

    Surely a respectable news outlet would never stoop to such crass commercialism!

    Would they?

    :unsure:

     

  • #7404

    a respectable news outlet

    That was your first mistake.

  • #7691

    News about news:

    Daily Mail owner buys i newspaper for £50m

  • #7692

    Great, one less different media voice in a right-wing dominated press.

  • #7698

    Shots fired at London Bridge, stabbing, same individual possibly wearing suicide vest and shot by Police.

    Lorry driven across all lanes of the bridge.

    As it happens, I’m not at work today.

  • #7701

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-50601491

    The man had a real knife but a fake explosive vest. He was tackled by the public then shot by the police.

    There’s just been a statement on the news.

  • #7793

    A Polish fishmonger beat terror guy to the ground with a narwal tusk, apparently. Knight that man.

  • #7795

    Knight him, using the tusk.

  • #7797

    Haha..apparently it wasn’t just him, two others also helped beating him. Good to see people jumping on this asshole’s neck.

  • #8223

    Fuck this asshole!

  • #8243

    Fuck this asshole!

    After literally getting away with murder, you would think Zimmerman would want this whole matter to go away. Wonder who’s been whispering in his ear.

  • #8300

    Indian police fatally shoot 4 suspects in gang-rape case

    At around 3 a.m. Friday, police took the suspects, who had not been formally charged with any crime, to the sites where the rape and killing are believed to have taken place and the spot in an underpass where the woman’s body was burned about half a kilometer (a third of a mile) away, said V.C. Sajjanar, the local police commissioner.

    The police brought the suspects to help them locate evidence, including the victim’s phone, Sajjanar said at a news conference.

    “The suspects seized some weapons from policemen who had taken them there and started firing,” Sajjanar said.

    “Even though our officers maintained restraint and asked them to surrender, but without listening to us they continued to fire and continued to attack us,” Sajjanar said, adding that police returned fire, killing the suspects.

    Oh yeah, that’s what happened…

  • #8309

    Yes that all sounds very sketchy, The Guardian story noted that two police sources came up with two different times, 3.00am and 6.30am, there’s quite a difference there.

  • #8321

    Wonder who’s been whispering in his ear.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martins-family-with-help-from-right-wing-lawyer-larry-klayman

    Zimmerman is being represented by Larry Klayman, an attorney described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as “a professional gadfly notorious for suing everyone from Iran’s Supreme Leader to his own mother.”While accusing President Barack Obama of secretly being Muslim in 2013, Klayman called for a “second American nonviolent revolution” to get Obama to “leave town, put the Koran down […] and to figuratively come out with his hands up.”A “birther” who claimed Obama faked his U.S. birth certificate, Klayman has also claimed the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing was ordered by Saddam Hussein. Klayman is a founder of the conservative group Judicial Watch, which has repeatedly sued the Clintons. This summer, a D.C. legal ethics panel recommended barring Klayman from practicing law for 33 months over a complaint by a former client who accused Klayman of exploiting her financially when she refused his advances

  • #8323

    In fairness, I’ve worked with a number of lawyers who are competent at their job and seem to be decent people, and I also know some lawyers personally who I am proud to call my friends.

    So when scumbags like Larry Klayman make you want to follow Shakespeare’s advice and “kill all the lawyers”, try to remember that some of them actually do good work and provide legal help to people in dire straits. We actually do need lawyers.

    We just don’t need greedy, immoral, unethical bastards like Klayman.

  • #9207

    Millions of dollars of jewelry stolen from home of British billionaire heiress

    The home is reportedly decked out with 24-hour security and guards.

    Thinking this was an inside job.

  • #9373

    Let’s put this into perspective: millions vs billions.

    It’s the equivalent of me having a plastic trinket stolen. Frankly, I’d be “meh”.

     

  • #10483

    New York Synagogue Attack: Machete-Wielding Suspect Captured In NYC After At Least 5 People Wounded In Monsey

    Tensions between the Jewish and Black communities in New York and other large cities has always been pretty high, but I wonder what’s boiling over with all the new attacks. A lot of this stems back to the perception that the slum lords and shop owners in heavily black communities were Jewish and that they overcharged and underserved that community. Even though Jews and Blacks were aligned for the beginning of the civil rights movement, that relationship almost always ended in conflict, and it seems that African-Americans and Latinos are still more likely than white Americans to hold anti-Jewish opinions though anti-semitism in general is much lower now than in previous decades.

    Now, Jews are facing danger from all angles. Obviously, white supremacy appears to be on the rise with some significant anti-semitic attacks around the world. Rising neo-Nazi aggression, an influx of Muslim anti-Semitism in Europe and some unexpected anti-Jewish sentiment from liberal politicians that oppose Israel are all driving many Jews underground again.

  • #10487

    The myths of the past still won’t go away and in fact are coming back.

    The irony is really that I think the least threatening of those – the liberal politicians who oppose Israeli policy – has received the most media attention but almost certainly poses the lowest risk of harm.

  • #10496

    The irony is really that I think the least threatening of those – the liberal politicians who oppose Israeli policy – has received the most media attention but almost certainly poses the lowest risk of harm.

    Not just with Israel, there are a number of left wing and right wing politicians who equate Jews with the worst elements of capitalism and the financial industry/markets. Of course, Jews were also blamed for the rise of Marxist socialism in Europe so, in many ways, they really find resistance and bias in nearly any side of Western politics.

  • #10658

    Not just with Israel, there are a number of left wing and right wing politicians who equate Jews with the worst elements of capitalism and the financial industry/markets.

    One of them being Marx!

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

  • #10744

    One of them being Marx!

    It is always depressing how even the greatest minds of past centuries were often prone to anti-semitic prejudice. At least Marx was friends with Heinrich Heine, a great Jewish German poet of the time, for whatever that’s worth.

  • #10747

    “One of my friends is Jewish/black/gay, so I’m not being antisemitic/racist/homophobic when I say…”

     

  • #10757

    Marx was ethnically Jewish, so in his case, one might argue that it was self-hatred, not Antisemitism. It really depends on whether his contemporaries had at least part of the idea of “ethnic Antisemitism” that lead to the Holocaust, and how much it was part of their gestalt, and if so, was Marx aware of it- did he encounter it?

  • #10763

    George Eliot’s novel Daniel Deronda touches on antisemitic attitudes in 19th century Britain, that it was deemed below the culture of the Christian natives. Equally though Disraeli was leader of the Tory party and Prime Minister while also an ethnic Jew (his father had converted to Christianity) while Marx was still writing there. So it would seem the overall feeling of his near contemporaries was not the kind of ‘ethnic antisemitism’ you talk about or he’d never have reached such a high position. (Bearing in mind the limitations of democracy in those days too, before universal suffrage).

    It’s obviously more complex than that and I’m touching just on a few texts and facts I have of the time rather than having any wide knowledge of it.

     

  • #10783

    https://apnews.com/08e256fa08f48b9deabab477eb3d71b5?utm_medium=APEastRegion&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

    The headline is the equivalent of saying “As  African-Americans  moving into traditionally Caucasian Neighborhoods increase, so does cross-burning”

  • #10812

    Report: California cops more likely to stop black drivers

    Well, I guess that’s incentive for me to stay out of California.

  • #10859

    United Methodist Church is expected to split over gay marriage, fracturing the nation’s third-largest denomination

    Leaders of the church announced Friday they had agreed to spin off a “traditionalist Methodist” denomination, which would continue to oppose same-sex marriage and to refuse ordination to LGBT clergy, while allowing the remaining portion of the United Methodist Church to permit same-sex marriage and LGBT clergy for the first time in its history.

    The plan would need to be approved in May at the denomination’s worldwide conference.

  • #10871

    Report: California cops more likely to stop black drivers

    Well, I guess that’s incentive for me to stay out of California.

    Were the next two headlines “The Sky is blue” and “Water is wet”?

  • #10886

    the remaining portion of the United Methodist Church

    Well that doesn’t sound very united.

  • #11005

    Their was an attack just before that one that was carried out by a member of an African-American Antisemitic Hate Group called “Black Israelites”. Given that this guy is African-American too, as are some “copycats”, some Jews are convinced that that group is more influential among African-Americans than most think, or that an active attack made mentally ill African-Americans more susceptible to “recruitment”. However, the Monsey attacker is obviously not connected, given what we know about him, and if you have been victimized by that group, it’s obvious their credos have massive differences.  If  it is true “copycats” have more African-Americans than expected, it would be from the fact that a “Black Israelite” and a mentally ill African-American attacked around the same time, and given the inequity of mental health treatment among African-Americans, it made one minority who have a bad history with mental health treatment’s mentally ill population latch onto Antisemitism in their delusions, though probably cherry-picking is involved at a subconscious level; the question “how much”.

  • #11358

    Reynhard Sinaga: ‘Evil sexual predator’ jailed for life for 136 rapes

    One hundred and thirty six.

  • #11490

    Prince Harry and Meghan to step back from royal family

    As much as I’m no fan of the royals, I have a certain amount of respect for this. I don’t blame them for wanting to pull away from the Royal Family as an institution, regardless of whatever all the internal squabbles are.

  • #11495

    Lots of hashtags, #REXIT is my favourite.

    I can understand they hate being under the microscope, and while I’ve got friends who disagree, I do think she/they have had to deal with more shit because of racist assholes like The Daily Mail.

    But if they’e planning on being financially independent, they better do it soon.

  • #11505

    But if they’e planning on being financially independent, they better do it soon.

    Yes. It will be interesting to see how quickly and to what extent they become independent from the public funds that they benefit from.

    I think they could use their position to do a lot of good. Let’s see.

  • #11537

    British tabloids to Markle for the last 4 years: Oh god your are so terrible, we’re even angry about your shoes today.

    Markle: Okay I’m off.

    British tabloids: What how dare you? That’s disgraceful. Come back!

  • #11538

    That’s the only angle that is interesting. I couldn’t give a flying fuck what they do.

    Saw a tweet from BBC Radio Wales for opinions on the royal news. I had some pride restored when 90% of the answers were gifs with variations on this:

     

     

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